MR2 - BUYING - DRIFTING - NOOBIE-

fuck off kid buy whatever you want

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>>17470801

Just looking at the car makes me giggle like a little girl. This can't be healthy.

>>17470793
drifting is fucking lame and the mr2 sucks at it. let your parents pick a car for you and come back when you've grown up a little

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>>17470793
what was the point of this thread?

>>17470870
>>17470890

For you guys to talk me into buying a gay MX5 so I don't snap oversteer into a wall.

>>17470896
fuck that if you like the car after doing some research on it then go for it, its a fun car and it will help to get better at driving if you're not stupid enough to crash it first

>>17470896
miatas suck at drifting as well. you're picking the totally wrong cars for drifting. what i really want you to do is buy a clapped out 240sx so you don't ruin an actually good car.

>>17470903
>>17470909

Do you guys think the MR2 could be worked on to make it a more stable drifter, or would it be a waste of time and bucks?

>>17470943
it would be a complete waste. cars like the mr2 and the mx5 are best suited for events like autocross, which is much more fun in my opinion.

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>>17470793
why the fuck do you want to drift? where are you planning on "drifting"? If you think you're gonna try sliding an SW20 on the local toe-gay like it's fucking inisharu D then you're going to crash

MR2s are for cornering hard. They have excellent traction and weight distribution and can absolutely rip through turns. I feel that cornering ability is much more impressive than understeering which virtually any other RWD shitbox can do.

long story short, buy the MR2 and just remember not to brake hard during/entering corners or you'll snap and die

>>17470793
>first car
>wants to buy an MR2 for drifting
STFU and buy a Civic

>>17471000
the trips of truth

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>>17470896
MX5s snap oversteer. I would know.

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>>17471000
>>17471004


I don't like Civics, they look worse than Priuses.

>>17470870
Sure modern day drifting is lame (handbrake -> Powerskid) and the MR2 does indeed suck at that but inertia drifting is awesome and the MR2 is very smooth at inertia based drifts.

Best motoring:
https://youtu.be/VNCXJ1RAcWw?t=6m50s
Good drift at ~6:50

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>>17470994

>why the fuck do you want to drift?

Looks like fun

>where are you planning on "drifting"?

Empty places at night to practice, circuit when possible.
>If you think you're gonna try sliding an SW20 on the local toe-gay like it's fucking inisharu D then you're going to crash


Makes me want to buy one just to prove you wrong.

>>17471010

At least it has pop up headlights, Anon.

this thread reeks of summerfag and boiracer

>>17471044
YOU CAN'T DRIFT AN MR2

>>17471044
You're not going to prove me wrong, I've owned both an AW11 and an SW20 and can absolutely promise you you're going to crash. It sounds like you have little to no experience otherwise you wouldn't be making this thread which further cements the idea of you totalling a desirable car because of delusional hoonigan fantasies

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>>17471058

That's it, I am buying an MR2.

>>17471055

I am going to show you summerfag, fag.

>>17470943
The best way to "work on" an MR2 to make it a more stable drifter is to leave it stock and maintain it.
Like most 90s RWD Japanese sports cars the MR2 has a highly engineered balance between tyres/wheels to springrates/shocks to sway bars to weight balance to suspension geometry. All with the sole purpose of making the transition between under-the-limit-of-traction to over-the-limit-of-traction as smooth as possible.

These cars weren't built to be as fast as possible, they were built to be fun and easy to drive at the limit.

>>17470870
>mom's minivan driver - the post

>>17471075
Not to mention the point of the balance is predictable rotation and not retarded oversteer.

>>17471075
>>17471083

Would you recommend the Turbo version? I don't plan on adding anything that's not strictly necessary.


I love the stock looks too.

>>17471078
i drive a miata, friend

>>17471044
>>17471066
Fellow MR2 owner here, yes you can drift an MR2 BUT WHATEVER YOU DO DON'T TAKE ADVICE FROM OTHER DRIFTERS.

All the information you need is in the Drift Bible (that's why it's called the drift bible duh):
https://youtu.be/IPQyQgyuNMI?t=27m49s
Watch it again and again and again and again. MR2 drift starts at ~27:45.

Drifting with an open differential is not practical. An open diff is completely unpredictable, and once you actually have a car with an LSD you will realize how silly it is trying to drift with an open diff. Also, Mr2 is not a drift car. Get a fucking mustang or 240sx or miata or lexus. Don't buy an e36 because I don't want my insurance going up because of retards like you.

>>17471089
It's a 30 year old car that you don't know how to work on and can't afford the tools to fix. Don't buy a car with your penis you 17 year old retard. But you've already made up your mind in spite of the reality in front of your face, so enjoy your rusted out shitbox with the engine in the wrong place because nothing will change your adolescent mind.

>>17471089
Yes turbo will make it much easier, I've got an N/A and it's underpowered which means I need a higher entry speed to maintain a drift.
But really entry speed is everything with the MR2, most novice FR drifters will slowly roll up to a corner -> kick clutch/flick and drift away - this is what you would call a power over drift and the MR2 is very bad at these drifts.

Don't learn to drift with other people.
If you're not driving fast on the straight and braking before a corner and carrying momentum into that corner you're going to have a bad time.
Learn to heel-and-toe.

>>17471089
>>17471103
Also this anon is right in saying that Turbo MR2s are plagued with problems and it's going to cost money to maintain the engine. Keep that in mind.

>>17471105
>>17471110

Thanks for the advice, Anon. I'll keep this in mind and watch the drift bible over and over again. Can't wait to start practicing.

>>17471103
Blah blah blah, give me solutions instead of problems. I've already made my mind.

>>17471120
Buy an air compressor, an impact gun, a floor jack, a full socket set, compression tester, another MR2 as a donor car and a track driving course before you even think about getting the car. Also a Civic hatchback to haul parts and actually get to your job to pay for it all.

OP thread part 2:

Hey guys I got an mr2 and I went to do some drifting and hopped a curb at 30 mph and now the car wont start?

I can't tell my parents do you guys have any ideas?

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>>17471136

>can't tell my parents

My parents are not buying me the car, I am with my own money that I am currently working my ass off to gain.

>>17471138
see >>17471133
t. 86 owner

>>17471120
Also you usually have to be very quick to counter-steer and more importantly straightening the wheel when drifting an MR2 - more so than FR cars. So it would be a good idea to make sure you have practiced your wheeling technique first.

A lot of novice drifters simply let go of the steering wheel and let the caster counter steer for them, this won't work with the MR2, you need active input. I'm sure there are plenty of videos on youtube about counter steering technique if you want to know what I'm talking about.

>>17471133
>>17471141

Noting it down, I'll calc prices later and see how long it would take me to gather up the cash. Thanks.

>>17471148
The full service 80s shitbox garage usually runs about 12000 including the car.

>>17471151

I could have that money in 8 months to a year, perhaps less if everything goes well.


Think it might be worth getting a super cheap/trashie RWD in the meantime to get started?

You're a new driver and you want to drift.

You fucking moron, just neck yourself and save first responders the hassle of cutting your fag ass out of the heap of twisted metal you dumb fuck.

>>17471171
No, get a shitty hatch. Insurance is killer at your age and if you kill someone while on your parents' insurance, they will sue your parents.

>>17471181

>Be a new driver
>Get a nice JDM car
>Go at nights alone to drift practice somewhere safe
>Learn

>Drive responsibly on the roads
Doesn't sound that dangerous, desu. All my drift friends live really far away from me, so I'll be drifting alone for a long time.


>>17471188

You want me to buy a FWD?

>>17471203
A 95 2 door civic hatch the back seats removed weights 1300 pounds. A Miata weighs and even ton. You tell me which is more fun.

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>>17471171
I learned to drift on dirt roads with little old RWD 4-bangers and I highly recommend the same to anyone else looking to start out.

You can learn about counter-steer, weight shift, throttle control, brake control, flicks and scandos, drifting lines - all at the comfortable pace of less than 60 kmph. Almost any drivable car will have enough power, so you don't have to spend big bucks on your engine, and I've yet to find a car that doesn't pull doubles on dirt, so you don't need an LSD. Everything happens slower so you don't need fast reflexes and best of all - if you do fuck up you're going so slow you'll probably only end up in a bush or a ditch or something (depending on where you're driving ofc).

>>17471044
jesus how old are you

i wasnt this retarded when i was 16

>>17471210

I don't like the looks of the EG6.

Miatas with pop up headlights are really nice looking, plus why would I get a FWD to learn the basics of drifting?


Miatas are pretty much on the same price bracket as MR2 though, I might as well just get the car I like and save up for the rest while I learn on it.


>>17471220

Thank you, Ken Block. I live in a pretty rural area filled with dirt roads, I'll see what RWD I can find that's really cheap.

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>>17471227

What's the big deal?
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Maybe it's because I am retarded, but I hardly see the danger is driving responsibly during the day on my MR2 and the going at night, somewhere race to practice my driving and drifting skills
-

What am I missing here?

>>17471248
>looks
>looks
>looks
Drifting looks fast, but it isn't.

You don't know how to drive, why not learn how to do that first on something that won't kill you when you fuck up? Oversteer is no fucking joke and it's something you learn how to safely manage with a hot hatch.

More importantly, what will you be driving when your 30 year old shitbox breaks down? Which it will, often.

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>>17471272

>somewhere race
Somewhere safe* Goddamn Freudian slip.

>>17471272
>What am I missing here?
Everything because your brain isn't fully developed and you might have autism on top of it.

?What will you drive when it breaks down?
>How much is the insurance for someone in your age bracket and can you afford it?
>Can you fix an old car that's been driven to shit and is ready for everything to be replaced?
>What will you drive when you run it through a ditch?
>Do you understand that these pieces of shit aren't safe and death would be a blessing compared to the more likely outcomes?
>Do your parents know you want a car because of chinese cartoons?

>>17471281
You know you don't need a picture for every post you make, you stupid redditor underage busdriving child.

>>17470793
>MR2
>drifting
>first car
Just in case this isn't bait, drifting is a meme. The MR2 is MR to stop it from happening, allowing the car to carry more speed through corners.
Since you are trying to get a sports car when you have 0 no-claims and are presumably still rather young, your insurance will absolutely skull-fuck your wallet (assuming you can even get covered at all and that they don't just laugh and hang up when you ask for a quote).
By all means get one if you want, but I would strongly advise that you wait until your your insurance premiums start dropping at about 22/25, and get it as a second car when you have something more practical, reliable, and cheaper to run/maintain so that you can still get to work when (not if, when) it breaks down.

>>17471067
Better have good insurance and a lot of cash.

>>17471298

>What will you drive when it breaks down?
Learn how to fix it

>>Can you fix an old car that's been driven to shit and is ready for everything to be replaced?
I can learn to fix shit, and I am willing to upgrade/replace parts of my car as needed. I am not interested in buying a whole lot of different cars, I want one that I can work on for years.

>What will you drive when you run it through a ditch?
Bicycle, walk or public transportation. I could also consider getting a cheap 400cc bike.

>>Do you understand that these pieces of shit aren't safe and death would be a blessing compared to the more likely outcomes?
What, brain damage? According to you guys I am already retarded, so it wouldn't be much of a loss. I am not interested in pondering about the different ways I might die or get maimed.

>>>Do your parents know you want a car because of chinese cartoons?
I've been interested in drifting for a couple of years, I just didn't have the money for a car. Just recently did I watch the first stage of Initial D.


I like the MR2 because I am sucker for the 80's design style, pop up headlights and that front looking just like my favorite car (Ferrari Testarrosa). I am aware that it being midship RWD makes the weight transfer a hassle to work with while drifting, but I am willing to adapt.
I am not waiting 4 years until I am 25 to start having some fun, Anon. My life is already boring as it is.

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>>17471306

This is an image board.

>>17471354
see >>17471306

>>17471347
You didn't answer the insurance question, but it doesn't matter because everything else was garbage.

>>17471363

It's around 500 hundred a year

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>>17471360

>>17471313

I don't even need a car, if transport was the issue I would just buy a cheap 400cc bike and save up a lot of money. Insurance is not that bad where I live.

I am doing fine riding my bicycle around, desu.

>>17471347
This right here is why there are so many,I started the project and couldn't finish it so I'm just selling a rolling shell on Craigslist. You don't just start working on a car and instantly know what you're doing. My guess is you can't even change the oil let alone you living in a fucking fantasy land of mr2 maintenance which requires you to drop the motor to change the fucking spark plugs. So let's just assume you're a dumb fuck, which in this thread you have proven and save yourself the headache and just get a v6 mustang to throw around

>its another "child buys and abuses classic car" episode
This shit is why i have 3 AW11's. Gotta keep em safe from retards

Get a proper drift missile, an AW11 will die in less than a year if used for drifting.

>>17471023
Too bad, you're just a dumb kid who has no experience with cars and wants a 20 year old Toyota shitbox that'll kill you

>>17471493
>Toyota
>Die
Mate I don't believe you really own an AW11.

>>17471540
Neither do you

AW11s are notorious for rust

>>17471540
>durr it's a Toyota they're reliable
They're 30 year old shitboxes

>>17471552
What the fuck does rust have to do with drifting? And how does rust even kill a car? Certainly not within a year. And not for a long time if you know how to weld!
>>17471554
I've got 40 year old shitbox Toyotas still going strong! They don't die.... the problems just get progressively worse until you give up on them.

i didnt want to create a special thread for it, so i will just use this one to ask the question
so i've been driving my parents ford focus for around a year now, i feel pretty comfortable with it and never was even close to a crash (noting that weather in my country is often shit, with a lot of snow in the winter might make this more worhy)
i've always loved pop-ups and after making some money i can finally afford one.

i've been mostly thinking about MR2, celica from 90s and ford probe. Miata sounded promising too but the looks are a huge turn off for me
out of them which would fit a semi-beginner the most? i've got some race tracks along with rather long roads and some serpentines so i would really like to get a car that could handle these at some fast speeds. If not any of these that I mentioned, what would be a nice alternative?

>>17471606
Because OP knows how to weld

>What the fuck does rust have to do with drifting?
>implying OP isn't going to tard things up with chinese coilovers and slam it to the ground until it's scraping for better driftage

>>17471616
Buying a car for the looks is the second dumbest thing you can do.

>>17471632
Well after reflecting upon my first drift cars..... I guess you're probably right.

>>17471616
forgot to mention that i want a car that won't kill me, thats the only reason im not 100% on mr2
>>17471645
im buying it for the pop-ups
call me retarded but thats what i wanted since forever

>>17471632

>slam it to the ground until it's scraping for better driftage

No, I am going to keep it fairly stock.

>>17471655
All 80s and 90s shitboxes will kill you. Unless you plan on putting in a full cage, which you should if you're tracking a car.

>>17471658
No you're not, you're a dumb kid who wants to buy a 25-year-old mid-engine car as his first car and drift it

>>17471661
ehhh, most cars besides pop-ups that i like are way out of my reach cash-wise so im kinda fucked then

>>17471687
You can get an abarth with low miles for under 10 grand.

this is comedy gold

>>17471685

I like the looks of the stock. I have no interest in hooligan super big escapes and slammed my car into oblivion.


Also fuck off, drama queen.

>>17471722
>first car
>mr2
>considering the turbo
>wants it to drift
>has shown he knows nothing about cars
>reddit spacing

move along, we've been baited

>>17471729
No one can pretend to be retarded, this shit is the real thing.

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>>17471729

You're just a fragile old man who never went after his dreams and now spends his time trying to bring others down.
I am getting that MR2, and I am drifting that MR2. Whether you like it or not, old man.

>>17471722
The resounding advice of this thread is this, you are a fucking retard, you want a drift car with initial d meme lights that you cant afford, you have no mechanical knowledge and you want to get a 20 year old cars, literally going out of your way to ignore the do not get advice on a thread asking about advice, the end conclusion you are fucking retarded and should just buy a civic with a fart can and a vape pen

>>17471738
see >>17471010
Enjoy your lawn ornament

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>>17471738

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>>17471744
>>17471757

You'll be hearing from me back again.

>>17471769
You can't even drive one home. Have fun getting daddy to do it for you.

>>17471616

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>>17471616
Pop-ups are a dumb meme

Get a SN-95 Mustang GT
>plenty around
>strong aftermarket
>plenty powerful
>can easily make more power
>can also be easily modified to handle well
>comfortable to live with every day
>won't bust your knuckled wrenching on it
>parts are cheap and plentiful, available at parts stores around the corner versus overnight parts from Japan

>>17471010
You don't know snap oversteer is.

>>17471816
You're right, I know /what/ it is.

>>17471814
im a eurofag, unfortunately eastern one, so mustangs are out of question
my budget isnt that high

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OP after 5 minutes of trying to drift an MR2

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>>17471830
E36 then

>>17471816
Does anyone know what snap oversteer is?
As far as I can tell it's a meme for accelerating through a long corner trying to feel where the limit is, then getting too close to said limit (or over it) and chickening out by lifting the throttle completely. Which, of course, is completely retarded and not something that anyone who had bothered to read up on driving technique before trying to be a boy racer would do.

>>17471878
It's lift-off oversteer. Most cars understeer so bad that it isn't really an issue unless you hard brake, but the miata and mr2 will do some fucked up shit when you ease off the throttle.

>>17471853
im not a bald gangsta-wanna be chad
(atleast they are the only ones who use it here)

>>17471729
dont forget
>/O/

>>17471878
Sigh fuck it is summer of the dumb fucks, basic of snap is this, turning right at what you believe to be the proper angle and the car starts to lose grip, what happens is the person either does 2 things. One they over correct to the opposite direction and the car regains grip = snap into the direction the car is pointed usually forcing the car into a spin, the other is turn hard into the direction the grip was lost and the car never regains grip = over steer and you essentially keep forward progression most likely into a tree, the end result you didn't know how to drive and control the speed of your car

>>17471908
Who gives a fuck what other people think? It's not like Chads go to the track anyway

>>17471010
You mean the penduluming fuckup where you overcorrect and just swing the rear in the direction you were correcting in?

I don't think that's snap oversteer. It's just being an idiot and not using the gas pedal.

>>17471897
No it won't unless you do what I described - accelerate around a corner until you've completely loaded up the rear wheels and then suddenly let go of the throttle. Which is, as I've said, retarded.

>>17471937
>turning right at what you believe to be the proper angle and the car starts to lose grip
Well that doesn't sound very snappy, in fact what you described would normally be referred to simply as "over-steer".

>>17471956
It does it under partial loads and the drivetrain snap makes it worse. MR2s will do it in a straight line.

>>17471878
>Does anyone know what snap oversteer is?
Sudden oversteer under deacceleration ie. under braking or absurdly lifting off mid-corner.

>>17471940
idk man, sorry if im just too picky but i dont like BMWs

>>17471978
IIRC miatas will only do that if you're hard on the brakes to begin with, and then cutting any throttle you may have had pushes it over the edge

>>17471987
They put you in a bad place where if you decel it oversteers and if you give it more gas it oversteers. Usually not a problem but on wide corners or some compound twisties the soft suspension does bad, bad things.

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>OP in 4 years


>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-UtD4ZXup8

>>17471968
>MR2s will do it in a straight line.

Don't be ridiculous! I've never driven a stock MR2 but mine would definitely never do that, mind you I have bigger better tyres at the back than the front.

I do however recall my friend spinning out and nearly ending up down a cliff because he relaxed at the end of the touge run and backed off while his car was still loaded from the previous corner. I suppose that's where the meme comes from - people who don't understand liftoff over-steer.
(not really what I'd call snap over-steer though)

>>17472017
ha, 4?
he will take easy turns like that in 2 years max

>>17472014
>They put you in a bad place where if you decel it oversteers and if you give it more gas it oversteers

If this happens and you want to safely pull out simply turn into the corner and floor the gas - you'll spin into the corner and scrub off all your speed.

Provided of course the reason you oversteered was overspeed, if you oversteer without enough speed and you're looking like ending up on the inside of a corner than you can simply feather the brakes whilst counter steering until you come to a stop - more brakes = wider line, less brakes = tighter line. But watch out for the grip up and whip back when you get to lower speeds!

>>17472076
>But watch out for the grip up and whip back when you get to lower speeds!
Yeah, that initiates the pendulum drift and fishtailing which is what gets most people. It's not the oversteer, but the recovery and in the miata the load bounces side to side.

You need some serious balls to drift an MR2.


>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqKgyRRtVa0

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>>17472035
Is your friend me? That is exactly what happened last year although crap tires on the rear are also to blame.

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>>17471814

>Pop-ups are a dumb meme


No, YOU are the meme.

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OP here.
I might consider a Gayata MX5 instead of the MR2. No way I would be keeping it stock in the looks department though, it looks so girly.

>>17472273
its a bit shame that practically a perfect car is in such gay body

MR2 aren't drifters, they are good track cars though.

Also, avoid the Targa tops, the roof of these models are infamous for leaking under even a weak drizzle.

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>>17472306

I agree, if the Miata had the looks of the MR2, it would be my dream car.

>>17471830
>>17471616
get a fucking celica with pop ups
nuff said

>>17472346
>If a Miata wasn't a Miata it would be my dream car

>>17472322
>Also, avoid the Targa tops, the roof of these models are infamous for leaking under even a weak drizzle.
I have one and it doesn't leak at all even in heavy rain. Then again this might be because I never take the roof pieces off.

/O/ SHIT NIGGA

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>>17472430

Why did they have to make it look so gay, man? Holy shit.

>>17471616
did i just witness a first buyer that isnt totally brainless?

>>17472483
They modelled it after classic British roadsters, right down to the exact sound they make

>>17472322
>good track cars

lol

OP here again, what are your guys thoughts on the Mazda RX7 FC3S for a noobie? Seems to be running at the same price of MR2 where I live.

>>17472819
This has to be bait

>>17472821
how so ????????????????????????

>>17472821
Why would you say that? I found a pretty nice one for 6k.

>>17472821

Is there any other freaking car besides an ugly EG6 that you guys are happy with a beginner buying? Jesus christ, dudeo.

>>17472857
>EG6
We said get a used Civic, not a clapped out rice mobile from the 90s

>>17472842
Do you know how to run, maintain and rebuild a rotary engine?

>>17472876

No, but I can learn.

>>17472893
On your only car?

>>17472870

I see, I am looking at the prices and they float about 1000 to 3000 euros where I live. For that price I could just save 6k and get something nicer.

>>17472908
Save 6k and put a massive down payment on something even nicer than that. Nothing better than driving a slightly used car you actually like into the ground.

>>17472905

Yes, if something happens to the car I won't die. I don't need a car to move around, since I don't have to move around very far where I live.


Whatever I choose, I am going to have to learn how to maintain and fix. So I might as well buy something I like.

>>17472925
It sounds like you live at home and have no aspirations.

>>17472921

Nah, most of the cars I like are old 80's JDM cars with the exception of Mustangs (which are super expensive in Europe, and Italian Sports cars which I cannot afford).


I am never, ever going to lease a car. If I don't have the bucks on hand to pay for it fully, I won't buy it. That's how you get yourself Jewed for life, bro.

>>17472941
>his credit isn't good enough to get a stupid low interest rate

>>17472941
Finance a fiesta st for daily driving and do whatever you want on the side. I like british roadsters.

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>>17472941
Since you live in europe you should look at an old toyota/nissan sedan like jzxs or cressidas, with a manual and lsd/welded diff the long wheelbase will make them much easier to slide than a mr2 or mx5. They can be hard to find in manual though.

>>17472992
Yeah man, just weld your diff and completely ruin its drivability

>>17472996
Not like 80s jdm is drivable in the first place

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>>17472959

To buy what car? The cars I like are cheap enough that I could just save for them in a
couple months. I'd be a very happy man with an MR2/ FC3S / or even a 180sx.


The most expensive one I would need to lease in order to buy it, would be the RX7 F3DS, and even I can tell that's a bit too much car for me


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>>17472931

I wanted to join the army to be a helo pilot but got rejected due to medical, so I started a cleaning business that I run with my parents while I do side hustles to avoid spiraling down into depression, in this isolated rural shitole where there's no souls to be found in winter. Yes, I have very little aspirations besides getting a car to drift and improving my draftmanship skills in hopes that, one day I might get paid drawing furry cocks for the degenerates that visit this board and save enough to move far away from here.
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Any other insights?

>>17473005
An FRS/BRZ/GT86. It's the essence of an old JDM car except modern and reliable

If I can sell my Boxster I'd buy one as a daily driver/track car

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>>17473012

No offense, but those cars too hideous to me. I would have to be a deft cunt to buy a 20k+ car on a lease, when I a newfag buying his first car, that I plan to drift.
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Nothing tops the looks of the 80's style.

>>17472992

It needs to have pop up headlights.

>>17472963

I am guessing you are American, and Ford fiestas a dirt cheap where you live. Here a second hand Ford Fiesta ST runs 5k. 1k less than a freaking RX7 FC3S. I am not buying one.

>>17473058
>lease
That word doesn't mean what you think it means. Also they're much less used. Agreed that they aren't sexy, but they aren't hideous.

>>17473058
>newfag that wants to drift
>only wants 80s shitboxes

This guy >>17472931 is right

>>17473068
Why do you 'need' pop up headlights? I know you're a memester who blasts vaporwave when he cranks it to loli porn, the 80s aesthetic is fucking dogshit.

Just get a 180sx then it'll be 10x easier to drift than a mr2 and has lots of aftermarket support.

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Another guy from Europe
I'm not interested in drifting or that it must have pop up headlights but I'm interested in getting either:
>Toyota Celica (could be the older one or the bug eyed, depends in what condition I can find one)
>Honda Prelude - there is a good looking 88 model for a price
>Audi 80

What is the most reasonable choice? I would like to know some pros and cons especially in driving and cost of maintenance of those cars.
Also wouldn't mind some other car recommendations.

>>17473157
The prelude is the best choice because it's cool and has rear wheel steering and may actually appreciate in value depending on the model. But, any newer car is going to have more horsepower and be more reliable than a 20 year old economy car.

>>17473157
Prelude

>>17473170
>be more reliable
>inb4 incessant memeing about computers

>>17473157

Fuck off my thread, you ugly leech.

>>17473170
>>17473172
Thanks, there is someone selling 87 model in good condition but It's imported from Switzerland and only has 102k mileage so I'm a bit suspicious especially since it's a long ride there.
Are there any common problems with that Prelude model so I can sort it out once I get it and be prepared?

>>17473075
>>17473084

Since when do I fucking need a reason to buy only cars with pop up headlights besides ''I fucking like it''. You fucking assholes?

>>17473005
>save enough to move far away from here
You will have a very hard time saving that money when you have an old sports car as your first and only car.
As a new driver, you're going to have to pay a shitload of money to insure it because of the countless other new drivers who got one and ended up wrapping the poor thing round a tree.
You're also going to have to pay a shitload of money to your mechanic every time your decades-old car inevitably breaks down. It will break down even if you don't abuse it (but you did say you're going to learn to drift in it), just a bit less often.
Even if you have the time and ability to wrench it yourself, you will have to get spare parts and/or a donor car (or several).

>>17471616
>>17472356
so is really celica the best option ?

>>17473225
>suggests wanting to buy rare cars to practice a crash-prominent sports
>calls other people leeches
The door is thataway

>>17473241
I just wanted to know why you'd shoot yourself in the foot in every possible way for shit taste. Making money off of retards is my dayjob and 4chan is a great source for data collection.

>>17473242

The the future looking this grim, I might as well buy a 400cc bike and go fuck myself.

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>>17473263

This is my thread, you bitch. Feel free to leave anytime.

>>17473267

>He can't figure out the reason someone would want to buy a pop ups headlight car only is because they like pop up headlight cars
You are not very good at your imaginary job, are you?

>>17473283
So you can't tell me why you like pop up headlights. Worthless.

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>>17473263

Excuse, can you explain to me how I am a leech for SAVING money WORKING to BUY my OWN car?


You commie piece of shit. I am starting to think most of the neigh sayers in this thread are just a bunch of poorfags that are just jealous they can't afford a classic JDM car.

>>17473313
>UR ALL POOR
Classic

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>>17471738
I love you OP. Follow your dreams BUT don't throw yourself at the first corner you see with your new SW20. Watch videos, practice a lot on empty parking lots. It's going to be hard, very hard but rewarding. Godspeed!

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>>17473303

>Reverse psychology.


Suck my fat cock.

>>17473321

Thank you Anon, whatever I end up getting I will record it and share it on /o/. It's certainly going to be any of the Italian sportcars inspired JDM cars and definitely not a fucking Honda Civic.

>>17473323
I can't, you don't have one

>>17473333
See you in a week when you crash it

Don't even know why you bothered making this thread when you're so close minded and dead set on getting it

>>17473343

Nah, it's going to be at least 1 Month or two before I have the money for the car.
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I just said in the post you responded to I might get something else than MR2. How am I close minded? Someone mentioned an 180sx earlier, and I am considering it seriously.

>>17473343
He's most likely a kid without even owning a driving license and just wanted to get good boy points by posting memes and trying to justify his poor life choices.
Instead people gave him actual truth and some advice in which he responded by posting more memes.

>>17473334

Ok

>>17473361
You're right, I forgot that 95% of /o/ don't even have their licenses

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>>17473367

That explains all the neigh sayers in this thread. I don't have my driving license yet, but I have driven cars before and it doesn't seem like a big deal.

>>17470793
>MR2
>first car
Oh boy, there goes another MR2 for the scrapyard when it inevitably gets wrapped around a lamppost.

Enjoy the twitchy handling due to bad rear weight bias, and liftoff oversteer, and snap oversteer.

MR2 is terrible for drifting. If you want a drift machine get a 240sx or C4 Vette and weld the diff.

>>17473375
>neigh sayer
>driving license
English motherfucker, do you speak it?

>>17473381

What?

>>17470943
Just get a 240 and weld the diff, that's all you need to do, haggard garage has a good example of this.

>>17473388
It's naysayer, neigh is the sound a horse makes. Also, it's either driver's license or driving licence depending on which side of history you are on.

>>17473399

I see, thank you.

>>17473411
De nada.

>>17473397

The 240SX looks beautiful to be honest. I might get that one after all. I'll have to save a couple more months than I was expecting, but it's probably worth it.


I'll see what I do.

Just remember to make a follow-up thread of your eventual crash

>>17473439

I will, don't worry. Just make sure to remember me.

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>>17473442
>remember me

I feel you so close to me
I hope you still rev for me
even I know you found another belt

you took away my chance to
be with you forever
to be your owner and stay together
you gave away the precious grip
that we had to somebody else
oh baby I wanna tell you

remember me
I remember everywhere we used to drift
can you feel my grip slipping, slipping
will be forever, will you
remember you, remember me
I remember everywhere we used to drift
'cause my blood is still pumping, pumping
will be forever, will you remember me

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>>17473462

I love you, Anon.

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mr2 eats new guys for breakfast.

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No I'll be fine!

What's the worst that could happen?

Everyone's just being paranoid!

I'll show you al.....

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>>17473476

Take some fucking chances in your life, you cuck.

>>17470793
Buy the MR2, snap oversteer isn't that big of an issue if you drive like a sane human being.

Don't bother with the touge, if you wanna pull some sick doriftos at least do it in a parking lot or something that won't get you killed

If you're paying for itself, buy whatever car you want

Guys, is this real?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IgaroRzYgw

>>17473964
Caster is always good and many people think more caster = more good.... but I think the MR2 already has plenty of caster and with a proper alignment plenty of steering too.

>>17472017
damn, just looking at how many times he has to correct during a single drift, must be difficult

>>17474203

Yeah, if you check his channel that guy ended up selling the MR2 and buying a MX5. He says it feels much better to drive than the MR2. That's really meaningful coming from someone who's been working 4 years on getting the MR2 to drift, to be honest...

>>17474236
That's because he spent 4 years doing the wrong thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUOHK525EEs

>>17474342

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZk7rlW0Q3M&t

>>17470793
This thread has to be bait. The SW20 is a great car, but these cars are not meant to be 'drifted'. You're much better off learning how to drive properly if you want to experience the car to its full potential. Snap over-steer is a meme and you likely won't get into any trouble with the car if you're a decent driver.

Digressing-- in the off chance that this isn't bait and you're being serious, do not get this car for a first vehicle, because you'll wrap it around a pole or total it. I'm not trying to be a dick but there's a 90% chance that it'll happen due to your inexperience. Get a different car to learn how to actually drive before you get an SW20 or similar vehicle

>>17472273
>>17472306
>>17472346

why are yall so insecure about your masculinity?

i personally think the car is adorable and fuck what everybody thinks, it'd be lying to make such a slow car look "badass"

>>17474714
16 yr old kids plaguing /o/

>>17474236
that's because you have to be literally retarded to buy a grip car to drift.

>MR2
>drifting
just buy a fucking 240sx you dumb kid. There's a reason hardly anybody drifts MR2s; they're just not the right car for the job and pretty much any FR car with a manual transmission is a better choice for it.

Jesus when will the drifting meme end, it's such a joke.

>>17475255
Never, it's literally a sport now and kids are obsessed with it after watching f&f or initialD

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>>17474714

You don't need to be insecure about your sexuality to acknowledge the MX5 1-3 gen looks gay as fuck. It's soft and roundy, like a girl.

>personally think the car is adorable
>Adorable


What are you, gay?

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>>17475255
>>17476316

>Being this mad at drifting


Enjoy drowning in hatred while others have fun with their cars.

>>17475045

It's hard to find a non-riced 240sx though. I am not interested in that sort of thing. All the MR2 I've seen look stock and beautiful.


Hard to believe how much bad taste ricers have.

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Guys, what if I change the engine of the MR2 to the front?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drYxnAi4lmA

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>>17476331
>gay as fuck
>like a girl

>>17476375
i think he just meant that its a girly car

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>>17476375

Just admit it, you like women with feminine penises and boypussy. Don't come to me telling me I am insecure about my sexuality when you're the one sucking cock on the clock.


Men on average, don't like their cars looking cute.

>>17472819

First off. Dont buy an rx7 and ruin it please. Secondly they are fun cars and with some work and a few easy mods they make decent or at least better drift cars than an mr2 so if that is what you are planning on using it for it it will work better. Third is the cost of ownership is higher due to the specialty parts and labor required. If you want to drive one and are not rich and have a good rotary mechanic nearby you will want to do the work yourself. Also just because its running doesnt mean it will still be running in a few months after you buy it. I own an fc and bought it running and fixed the couple of issues that kept it from being able to be registered and the week before i was gonna get it registered it blew a coolant seal so now i have to pull and will do a rebuild.

Not OP here
What are some good cars as my 'first'? It's will be mine first car that i buy, but i've been driving old ford focus for few years now
europoorfag so some americans classic or higher budget cars are out of question
i dont really care about pop-ups but they would be a nice addition

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>>17476405

What's with the leeches in my thread, get your own you, commie cunt.

>i dont really care about pop-ups

Doble cunt.

>>17476393

What's it like to own an F3CS? Is it fun to drive?

>>17476411
i dont feel like spamming the board with questions like that, but since you did it already i might aswell post it here

>>17476417

Yeah well, get ready for Honda civic/Ford fiesta ST spam.

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OP here. I've decided not to buy a car at all. I am going to instead, invest my money so I can generate more money.

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ive had a mr2 sw20. Got it in a miracle trade essentially. It was BUILT and BEAUTIFUL.
God damn it'll haul ass.

my advice is this ...
if you can realistically get the car. DO IT. Especially if its in good condition. Drive the living shit out of it. It'll be your first car, it wont stay pretty forever. Far as drifting, there is always a way to do it.

Get gud feggit!


Currently drive a stock miata. It kicks a lot of ass in its own way. Its got LOADS more room for stuff and a full trunk. On top of having a convertible top. MUCH more practical for my life. Its not as quick as my MR2 was but as i said before, miata is stock. Miata handles amazingly!

>>17476502
Oh wow, you sure trolled us good!
Be sure to make another le ebin trolle thread sometime soon

Everyone knew you were being deliberately retarded, they all just bite because they are equally as bored and wanting an internet fight as you.

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>>17476565

I have brought hours of entertainment into your life, the least you could say is ''thank you''. You ungrateful cunt.
Also, I might still get the MR2. The right wheel version is only 2k where I live.

>>17476575
i love the images

keep posting them

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>>17476591

Mein negger

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>>17476502

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>>17476676

No kidding, this past week I've been reflecting on my behavior and worrying I might indeed be, at least 20% Jew.
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I am so worried goy, it's literally like anuddah shoah.

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>>17476388
>Just admit it, you like women with feminine penises and boypussy.
no i like them with breasts and a vagina and/or turbines and rotors thank you

>Don't come to me telling me I am insecure about my sexuality
I didn't. You seem to be VERY ready to talk about it though.

>Men on average, don't like their cars looking cute.
>no true scotsman bs
>on the board where an FDM shitbox is loved because it looks like a smiling teletubby

pic related nerd,
a bunch of guys who like cute cars

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>>17478141

>They are all MK1


You won't see them driving MK2, because they are at least man enough not to buy the girliest version.

I am sorry you got your jimmies rustled, MX5 owner. But they look gay as fuck and you don't need to be a sexually insecure teenager to acknowledge that.

>>17472188
hi bartle

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>>17478159
>you don't need to be a sexually insecure teenager to acknowledge that

only a sexually insecure teenager would look at an object and ascribe a blatantly human sexual quality to it, merely to give himself an excuse to dislike the most popular sports car in the world.

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>>17478267

I'll be a sexually insecure teenager If I must, I don't care. The MX5 still looks gay as fuck and you are wasting your time arguing with me.
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Just go drive your homo car, I am not going to take it away from you.

>>17478327
the MX5 is beautiful

>>17470793
are you that same /biz/ anon I talked to earlier?
you seem to be headed the right direction now