/ccg/ Classic Car General

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about to purchase this for £300, listed as 88k mileage with a fucked alternator

FUn project or not, /o/?

>>17463842
For 300? hell, what have you got to lose

>>17463853
just driveway space :^)

>>17463819
You see, these trunks are so vast you probably can't reach whatever invariably fell into the seat panel fold.

>>17463842
That's not a classic car

>>17463887
>25 year old car
>not classic

have you considered suicide?

>>17463887
Oh look, we have one of "those people" in the thread already

>>17463919
not him but let's be honest my dude, it's not that particularly interesting and most of us here really only care about Ameribarges.
Speaking of which, has Dracula immigrated to the landbarge general or something?

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Posting this in the new thread because I love it.

>>17463934 yes most of us here care only about American vehicles, but Classics of any country have always been welcome to /ccg/ since the beginning.

As for Dracula, might be busy lately, I haven't seen him for a while. Maybe he died

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I just bought a 1976 toyota hilux. Engine is Toyota's 20r with a fresh rebuild from top to bottom, 32/36 weber carb, supra transmission (I don't know specifics), no rust, resprayed bottom, bed intact but with surface rust, one pinhole in floorboard driver side, A/C intact but not hooked up, pinhole leak in radiator, lacking exhaust exhaust, minor dings all over the body, and a toolbox full of spare parts.

I dropped $4000 on it. I have no idea what I'm doing. I just knew I wanted an old truck, and when I saw a 76 Hilux come on the market I had to check it out. How bad/good did I do?

>>17463968
looks pretty good hombre, don't let it turn into one of those ratty pieces of shit.

>>17463968
well it looks pretty cool

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>>17463948
just how many goddamn Mainers are on /o/

>>17463968
Looks pretty damn clean for a Toyota that old

>>17463968
The 20R is a much better engine than the 22R.
Ya did gud.

>>17463981
>>17463991
>>17464000
Thanks m8s, I feel a little less bad about spending the money. I'm normally not impulsive on cars, but this truck just spoke to me when I saw it. I'll do my best to take care of it. Going to be doing some work to it over the next couple weeks to get it into shape. I exclusively post on /dbt/, but I guess I'll be coming to /ccg/ now as well and will come back with updates

>>17463934
a mid engined, low priced sports car that has a cult following is definitely more of a classic than a plymouth horizon.

>>17464029
thanks dawg, I'm stoked to work on and drive this truck. Would it be tasteful to put some good bedliner over the bed and floorboards? I figured the bed for these things is pretty hard to come by, especially in any appreciable shape

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>>17463997

I'm the one you always reply to, dingus.

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>>17463997
>>17463997
I am still extremely jealous of your ferds powerplant.

>>17464067
I don't see why not. My buddy has a fully-bedliner'd Sidekick and it's pretty OK.
It looks like a rubber floormat until you get down there and poke it. Or notice the wires captured in it lel.
I'll ask him how it's holding up where his throttle foot rests.

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1990 with a 460 and E4OD transmission

>>17464043
Well nobody here has posted a Horizon yet but when they do i'll let them know that it's a piece of shit too.

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DIDN'T KNOW MY PLATE LIGHT WAS OUT UNTIL THE DISCO LIGHTS FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>17464043
Well you don't see that many Omnis/Horizons around any more. I've seen exactly two in the last ten years.

>>17463901
>the only definition of classic car is a binary year cutoff

yea, and a '92 accord is a "classic car" lol

>>17464147
evergreen?

>>17464239
my truck and many other vehicles on here are pieces of shit. but then again, to me the difference between a piece of shit and a pristine classic is the paint job to me. It is all a spectrum.
>>17464246
I have seen a few, they're shit though.

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>>17464264
that was in california. This is in parker though.

>>17464266
>my truck and many other vehicles on here are pieces of shit. but then again, to me the difference between a piece of shit and a pristine classic is the paint job to me. It is all a spe
Well your truck has historical value whether you recognize it or not. Horizons and Omnis were literally throwaway cars with no other intention.
They're like Yugos honestly, some people may like them but the vast majority of people see them for what they really are.

>>17464284
>Well your truck has historical value whether you recognize it or not. Horizons and Omnis were literally throwaway cars with no other intention.
that's what I am saying about the MR2 though. That being said, a omni GLH and GLHS is certified cool. I have seen 10 second built ones a few times.

So there's a Citroën Traction Avant for sale for $2500 and I think I'm going to try to get it. Not that I need another car but it seems like too good of a deal to pass up. Called owner during the week and he says it runs and is fairly rust free, but needs brake and fuel system redone to be able to drive it. Although it's a holiday weekend, I'll call the place it's at tomorrow and leave a message saying I'll take it if it hasn't been sold yet, and that I'll put a deposit down on it.

>>17464263
When you see one that was cared for all it's life and in pristine condition with low mileage, it basically is

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Before carpet, but I love the picture.

>>17464386
I love that bench

>>17464382
it's an old, well cared for shitbox. you're trying to stick to being technically correct while everyone is laughing at you on the road

>>17464457
Most American classics are old, well cared for shitboxes. We just like them because America.

>>17464524

This. I've had 4 classics, The Dart was a economy shitbox. The Impala is a slightly higher class full size car, but is still very basic and was a family car. The International, well shit, literally a poor man' farm truck. The Polara has AC, so I guess that makes it the highest class vehicle I've had, still a 4 door family hauler though. Nothing real special about any of them.

>>17463819
>sun-roof convertible
Didnt know my civic was a convertible!

>>17464524
everyone likes them, because they had style, a signature look, and still look good. most look far better than the regular car today. a shitbox is a shitbox because it's an efficient ugly car.

we're comparing cars that are to this date so far apart tech wise it's not even worth it. They still had carbs, having a turbo or super wasn't common at all. a 92 accord is in no way a classic car aside from having the age

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<longpost>

Crazy ass day. Thunderstorm woke me up at 2am and I went downstairs to park my cars under cover. Ended up wrenching a bit. Took the gf out for a drive in the light rain, which became a fucking hurricane, then I stalled out downshifting and flooded the carb so we were stuck on the highway.

Had AAA tow me to a local shop, rain dried up as soon as the flatbed arrived. We get her off the trailer and she's running just fine. Ends up I spend 6 hours at the shop just wrenching around with the shop owner giving me tips, I helped him with some errands and work and maybe he'll not charge me too much. As we go to move the truck onto to the lift to change the fluids, she stalls out again. I was right, carb was flooding, float was sticking and the accelerator pump is fucking garbage. Rebuild kit on the way...

All in all sorta fun, met some interesting people and maybe I'll go back next week and ask Bill if he doesn't want an apprentice. God knows I could use the income.

Wish I got some decent pics of the shop but this crappy shot of my fleet will have to do.

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>>17464271
Damn, I always save your pics mang. So comfy. I don't mind my 6cyl but manual steering =/= comfy. At least my 99c suicide knob came in the mail and it's much heftier than I was expecting

>>17464568
Look, another off-brand trip fag. Woohoo.

>>17464896
Thanks man. My ferd actually has power steering swapped in. I believe the drivetrain is from an 80s f150. Still has the most terrible four wheel drums and single master cylinder

>tfw don't know if I just want to do a mild cruisin' build
>or just say fuck it and blow even more money on a street racing build

these thread's are so shit these day's so many not classic's

>>17464713
Everything you're posting is subjective opinion. Old Japanese cars have a small but dedicated following, just because you don't like them doesn't mean other people don't like them. This goes for really any type of car honestly

trips should really just go to some normal fucking forum that isn't 4chan.

if that one faggot candy bar wasn't as active as he was, I probably wouldn't even accidently respond once in awhile.

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>/Ccg/ has been overrun by tripfags and namefags

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>>17465990
It's always been this way.

>>17465990
It was like this from the start.
Most of the trips here aren't total faggots

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>>17465963
>>17465990
>being this mad that a couple folks decided to use a function built in to this Kyrgyzstani falconry forum to identify themselves so they don't have to list off their vehicles every time they post

>>17466020
This, tripping was made for this sort of thing and i usually take mine off when not posting in /ccg/

>>17465996
car show?

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>>17466212
Yeah that was the golden super cruise

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i want this $1000 lebaron

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>>17466382
Then buy it

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>>17463819
1984 Toyota Corolla LE, just got her for 800$. Everything runs smooth, just needs new tires and breaks soon. Rust in the usual areas, as this is a midwest car. Was thinking of putting fender mirrors on, any thoughts?

>>17466389
i'm worried it will just become another pile of junk at my hoarder garage

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>>17466396
>that
>classic
that belongs in the shitbox general or toyota general

>>17466389
god damn that's a sexy 57

>>17466402
fuck off

>>17466407
compelling argument
no

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>>17466382
My neighbor had a 4 door lebaron

Never really understood the appeal for them, but if you like it at least find a four door..

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>>17466396
>1984 Toyota Corolla LE

My uncle had one back in the day, those older Toyotas and Hondas will always have a special place

pic related 85 accord

Odd thing is these older cars still hold a nice value and you can find one in decent condition for a little under 10k

>>17466416
not bad. i need a convertible though

>>17466424
First car?

Whats with the appeal for something like that?

>>17466428
no .. i have a car and a truck i just want something to goof around in

>>17463901
>>17463919
Someone had to tell the truth eventually. Sorry for intruding on your safe space.

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>>17466398
Kek. I own 4 vehicles right now and live at an apartment. I know this feel.

>>17466404
I completely agree. Genuine tri 5 bel airs make me stiff.

>>17466416
I for one like convertibles

>>17466407
He's not wrong though, man. You're in the wrong thread.

>>17466460
>I own 4 vehicles

WTF did you buy?

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>>17466467
Ferd
Acura
Yamaha

And now I got this little guy :^)

>>17466475
ahh okay

Didn't know you're stepping up and adding some vehicles to the collection,.

>Good luck finding space to store all that, its tough in apartment life.

>>17466460
i have 7 and have to rent a space outside of the inner city i live in

it's a bit obscene

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>>17466490
It's a pita. Thankfully the truck is on the street. I have a few parking spots, but I think I'm going to sell the Acura soon and buy a used Fiat 500 abarth

>>17466497
I am considering doing that. The goal is to buy like a quarter acre and put a warehouse on it so I can have a personal cuckshed for parties and hot rods and motorcycles.

>>17466521
>don't talk to me or my son ever again

>>17466521
I have shit stored everywhere as an apartment cuck. Corvette at the dealership, crown vic and bronco at the apartment, bronco's top in my fiances backyard.

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>>17465990
It was like this from the beginning, what are you on about?

>>17467302
just some summercunt who came in here to bitch about trips who don't even post outside of this gen.

>>17464896
Those things always made me a bit nervous since if you go to grab the wheel while it's spinning I'm sure that knob hitting your knuckles would not be fun.

>>17465990
I remember when everyone posted with namefags on here...

>>17467521
I still think that gtr vs corvette is the best trolling on this website since M3 vs 5.0

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>>17467547
What are you talking about?

I was simply mentioning when everyone on /o/ had a name

Where do you come up with gtr vs corvette

>>17467569
I was reminiscing on the old days of /o/

>>17467547
>trolling
It's literally just repeating the same words and phrases 24/7/365. It's just dumb and ruins threads.

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>>17467596
You're probably right. Sometimes it's fun to do retarded arguments that mean nothing.

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>>17467547
>people arguing about cars they cant afford
>Best trolling

>>17467618
Not smug enough

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>>17467615
>Stop showing off

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>>17467624
Dont test me mortal

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>>17467644
5/10 at least you're trying

>>17467638
America has cool cars in it

>>17467655
What kind of camera do you use?

Are you from /p/?

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>>17467761
those were all snap shits with my moto z with the hasselblad attachment

My regular camera as seen here is a nikon d300

>>17467772
>nikon d300

Are you into photography?

Those nikons are entry tier dslr

Have you looked at the canons?

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>>17467782
>nikon vs canon
meh. at that point they're the same. my camera is a 8 year semi-professional unit, but I have dumped a bunch of money into glass.

If I wanted a brand new DSLR with every feature possible, it might matter, but at this level, it is up to the user and the lens.

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My dad is having trouble starting this engine after years of sitting, engine has been rebuilt with new sending unit,alternator,starter,battery, etc. He worries that our family mechanic that put the carburetors on. Is it possible he put them in wrong order? Only thing that wasn't replaced was the fuel log to the left of the carburetors maybe that's clogged. Anything else to try?

>>17467984
Fuck forget rest of sentence, family mechanic may have installed carburetors in wrong order is that possible?

>>17467988
How drunk was he?

>>17468003
Are they in wrong order?

>>17467988
>>17467984
it should still start, it might run a little rich or lean if the carbs were jetted for a specific layout

when he tries to start it and pumps the gas do you see gas squirting in the carb?
has he tried to use some starting fluid?
is the gas he's using new? if the gas is 2 years old i might have gone bad

>>17468025
Gas may have gone bad but he added a fresh gallon earlier. We got the car to start now just letting it idle a bit. Gonna go to gas station and bring 5 gallons. I'll check out the carburetors next startup attempt. Thanks

>>17467615
You legitimately have mental issues if you find that shit fun.

>>17468076
>kek

Giving kat a hard time

He's been here for years, never leaving and probably enjoys the banter..

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>>17468076
pretty much
>>17468084

it's entertaining for me.

>>17466423
>tfw my dad's 82 Accord was stolen and crashed the month before I got my license
>never got the enjoy that 5-speed and 40+ mpg ever again

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>tfw large summit racing order
>tfw international shipping
>tfw several of the parts are made to order
I wonder how many deliveries this will actually take and how long it'll be before everything arrives...

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Welp took the falcon out for the first time, she drove just fine for me around the block and back. Went to a gas station dad got mad at me for spilling gas, till he tried it and spilled gas. And had that "wtf expression his face" Told him the rubber condom bullshit makes it pretty hard for older cars to gas up. Not only that but she stalled 2 twice on the way back. Which is worrying us now.

>>17465990

Well shucks.

>>17466020

What he said.

>>17466225

That 60 Impala. My dick!

>>17466460

I own 5 vehicles, 3 classics and 2 modern.

My house lot is 100x180. Shit's getting tight.

>>17468143

Is the tank vented properly? That will give you trouble.

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V12 for less than 3 grand. Should I cop?

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So I posted this a couple threads back. Bought this 1975 C10 for $500 and put exactly another $900 into getting it running and used it as a daily for a couple of months. I got tired of it though and didn't want to put anything else into it, so I traded it to a white supremacist for...

>>17468235
not unless you have another 10k to dump into it.

>>17468235

>>17468244

^This. That shit is absurdly expensive to fix up. I know a guy who knows a guy who's restoring one right now and WHEN he can find the parts they're never cheaper than $3-400.

>>17468226
Not sure, will need to check after I eat dinner.

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>>17468242
....this 1963 Ford Falcon.
>straight body
>lil bit of rust that's in easy to patch locations
>came with a Mercury Marine 302 that has been allegedly rebuilt and a C6 trans for some reason

but the knock on it is that it is not a factory V8 car and as such is not set-up for that 302, and it'll cost a couple grand by my estimate to get it properly set up for it. So I'm thinking of just trading the Mercury 302 for a Ford 200 Inline 6 that'll slide right in (I also have a C4 that will accommodate it) and have a 6 cylinder hot rod. Thoughts?

>>17468259

There should be a tube the runs from the top of the tank to the fill pipe, it allows gasses to escape while you fill, preventing gas from overflowing out the fill pipe before the tank is full.

>>17468262
And by Ford Falcon I of course meant Ford Ranchero. I keep doing that for some reason.

>>17468266
going to go take a look now, will come back with a picture of the area, I hope.

>>17468262
Pretty sweet trade dude. I'd much rather have that than the truck

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>>17468266
Is it that smaller hose?

>>17468370

That would be it. You might want to try feeling where it goes into the gas tank underneath the car (If you don't want to go through with dropping the tank right now) and make sure it's not rusted off or kinked.

>>17468419
>>17468370

I would check that rubber as well.

>>17468268
Rqnchero was the truck version of the falcon though so it all makes sense

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>>17469009
>Ranchero

Are you Mexican?

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>>17463997
>>17464147
What does his truck have in it?

>>17469078
That peterbilt doesn't run does it?

>>17469088
The cab-over? It's a Kenworth. My great grandpa ordered it new from the factory but then sold it. For my grandpa's 65th birthday the entire family found it for sale and bought it back for him. Was a great thing to see.

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>>17469078
429 with a c6 I believe

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Alright, I've finally saved up about 10k, ready to drop it on a project. I don't care about autism levels, I want to have a stripped metal lifted muscle as my daily.

No mad max tier pipes, and not a crazy lift, just enough to take it down a rough country or coastal lane (I will seal the metal ofc).

Any pony cars or similar ilk that I could pick up or import to Bongistan? I can sacrifice the looks for 3 criteria:

>Reasonable reliability
>Medium handling (barges are hard for roads round here)
>Medium MPG, or failing that, this will be my first engine swap

I know it's not a classic restoration but I figured you fellows might know a little about this genre of car, autistic as it sounds, I care solely about the aesthetics rather than the internals and would happily butcher it, but the less gargantuan the project costs, the better.

>>17469591
Mustang or Camaro only choice..

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>>17469591
look up baja style builds my dude.

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>>17469601
meh

>>17469601
forgive the naivety of the question but how feasible would an engine swap be with a stang?
A friend has one, he bemoans the lack of any safety, the awful turning and the fact it drinks petrol like it's 1970.

Has anyone in these threads ever ran across a Toyota Celica Liftback? It's a 'ricestang', made 10 years after the Shelby, smaller and far more reliable. But very popular and rare

>>17469614
He mentioned 10k

With a setup like that it would be a little over than the budget, but either way

>>17469635
You in Australia or New Zealand?

>>17469635
celica liftback was introduced in '76. you can swap a 22r into it no problem, or if you have the cash something cool like a 2tg

the engine isn't the limiting factor for gas mileage on a mustang, it's usually gearing and carburetion. you could swap to efi and put an overdrive trans in it but it's whatever.

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>>17469640
a lifted anything that's desirable and from the era will not be cheap.

This is a job for a muscle truck t b h. lifted c10 with a 383 and 2wd will be in this price range.

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>>17469660
I would go with a bronco, but ok...

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>>17469565
Jesus, what a beast. It's a great color too. I'm thinking of painting mine but I'm not 100% on it. If I paint it then I won't drive it as much because I want to keep the paint nice.

On the other hand I really love the faded look so I don't know.

>>17469679
Fuck me, goddamn sideways pics. Also, i'm looking at a 1977 2wd short bed f100. I might be able to get it for cheap if the guy wants to sell it. It's been sitting for as long as i can remember

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>>17469679
I loved the patina until I had an engine fire and the original paint bubbled through. I really want to paint mine, I think I will paint it Mazda British Racing Green they put on the miata.

>>17469676
bronco is cool but if you are going for aftermarket, and handling, you are better off going with a chevy.

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>>17469612
>>17469614
You beauty! Whole new avenue, this is almost non existent in >>17469646 Britton, ty

>>17469649
Ah yeah, it's funny how blatant the design rip off is. That 2tg adds up but I can dream
>>17469660
Really want a 3 door, I love trucks but no use and my commuting is going to add up. Thanks for the advice homeslice, I'll keep lurking these threads

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>>17469747
another option if you are in britain would be a celica-supra on some black steel racing wheels with a mild lift and some all terrains. Decent i6, decent power, doesn't weigh much and better handling and mpg than you could hope for with a mustang. They're dirt cheap as well. you could also do a rally spec starion or 300zx or other

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I love this car.

>>17469591
Consider suicide...well kinda. I have attempted doing this at one point just to realize that I was ruining a car with so much potential (on purpose).

Just get a 70's truck that no one really cares about it will serve a better purpose than a "lifted" car and will be much cheaper down the long run.

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>>17469852
Nice, I'll take a test drive in a celica supra, good ideas. Knew this was the place to ask

>>17469891
You know, I probably would have the same revelation when I actually own a nice classic, so the chances of installing any lift kit is pretty low. But the stripped metal, buffing away with a grinder for hours, as long as i seal it from rust, it's a hell of a lot nicer than piss yellow or maroon or whatever colour a cheap resto classic will come in, and my removal of its paint and rust will probably help out whoever owns it after me (or rust it into pieces).

I think it looks gorgeous and I rarely see it, pic related is my current goal aesthetic. I think there was a classic general a while ago with an anon with a stang who spent countless hours working on a patina, and it came out beautifully if you like that finish.

>>17467984
unlikely as secondary carb doesn't have choke

>>17466396
Only if you're really into it. Did those ever even come with fender mirrors in japan?

>>17467615
Where in the world did you find that bradley?

>>17467655
I'd faint from pleasure if i ever owned a 'Cuda

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>>17471030
Outside of my apartment. It's an interesting vehicle.

>>17471038
Me too

>>17469591
You may want to check out 4th gen Novas, Parts are cheap, i get 16mpg from a 40 year old 305 sbc with 140k miles. Easy to work on, lots of room for modification. Yeah there a bit ugly, but a great starter "muscle" car.

>>17471059
They're quite rare, too. Being as they were a kit car and all

>>17469707
damn, what caused the fire?

>>17471175
Slightly leaking gas line, and being an inline 6 the exhaust was right below the intake. Thankfully I was parked in front of a snow bank. There's Teflon tape on it now

>>17469872
>Any specs on the engine?


I like the foxbody as well, but most are beat to hell these days

>>17464263
and a 80's shitbox carolla is a classic car?

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>>17471598
No shit


Its a classic to older people for a reason, they grew up with that car

Think about it this way, when you are over 40 you will probably look at a 1999 civic as a classic

pic related
An 80s corolla, looks good dont it

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>>17471625

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my 92' ford. manual locking hubs, 5 speed and 5.0l v8. i love this baby.

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>>17464457
>yfw lol what are GM x-bodies?

>>17468868
My nigger, but the pre-87 grille. :(

>>17471640
>flareside
>how can we make regular pickup trucks uglier and less practical

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79 Trans am with the fucked up pulleys dude here again. The car made it to the shop and actually ran better than it has before I parked it ( that metal in the oil pan, weight reduction lol ) anyway most likely we're going to rebuild it instead of swap it since my 403 has some pretty nice headers and a nice intake. Anyway, has anyone ever built a decent performing 403? mine is pretty damn slow so I was wondering if anyone has built one what cam specs and other stuff would be recommended?

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>>17471557
They sure are I bought mine if as guy selling it to a scrap yard for $800.

Bored 306 w/ e303 cam gt40p heads, ac/smog delete manual steering rack and under drive pulley EFI/carb swap with edlebrock lower intake Holley 600 cfm carb and Holley red fuel pump 3g alternator Mac longtube headers and catted xpipe aluminum drive shaft and sealed gel battery in the trunk of course. I'm sure there's more stuff but TONS of work has gone into this car, I actually didn't do most of the modifications I just fixed the previous owners bullshit.

>>17472128
That's literally the engine I want to build. What rockers and valve shooting are you doing?

>>17472154
>Valve shooting
Spring

>>17472020
Read Jim Hands book on performance Pontiacs

>>17472175
I'll check it out, thanks!

>>17472175
>performance pontiac
>olds engine
Uhh?

>>17472452
Buick, Oldsmobile and Pontiac used the same engine in the '70s and '80s. Y'know, the BOP engine?

>>17472459
I know the Pontiac 400 and the Olds 403 which bolted up to BOP transmissions.

>>17471728
i have no idea what point you're trying to make

>>17472471
I think it was a shitpost

>>17472154
I'm not sure I didn't build the engine.

>>17472723
Why was the guy scraping it for $800?

What was wrong with it?

>>17472459
Is this bait?

>>17472452
I just said thank you and figured he didn't know that Pontiac trans am's had olds engines. But the 403's are very different, they have a pretty big bore, Siamese'd cylinders, and really weak windowed mains for some reason.

>>17472772
He crashed it into a tree after his unsecured hood flew up on him. He was selling it for 1100 (which is what the engine is worth) but since the rest of the car was in such bad shape he let it go for 800. It was not a deal by any means I've dumped over 4000 dollars on it making it right and I am still a couple thousand from being done, but I'm only doing g it because I enjoy it and I know I'm never getting me money back on it.

>>17473450
Do you know what that engine has dyno'd at?

It's literally what I want to build kek

>>17468419
We got a good idea of what the prob was, we never put a whole lot of gas in her, and she has enough when at level surface to keep on going, but turns out we barely have enough which means going down a hill the gas doesn't get near the thing that sucks up fuel from the tank(can't remember whats it name for the life of me) Anyways that what we think is why she is stalling out, which means later this week we need to buy some more gas and get her filled to at least half tank to test that theory.

>>17473905
I thought you had other plans? Have you ever get the new suspension installed on the ferd?

>pull bronco into shop to fix speedometer
>pull it out and find a puddle of gear oil by the rf tire area
>go look at bronco sitting outside
>rf tire and wheel soaked in gear oil

Mother fucker. The one thing I neglected and it shits out the day before 4th of july so I can't drive around with the top off waving a massive fucking flag

Alright, Im looking to get a project car that I can work on and fix up over the next decade. I'm enlisted in the American navy for 6 years and shipping out in january and looking to hunt down a car I can work on periodically when I get time and money. Not expecting to make any money off selling it later, nor do I expect it to be even remotely cheap in the long run. Im looking to spend within 5000$ but if it's a really good opportunity possibly up to 7500$. Im interested in mostly American muscle but I'm also interested in some 80s japanese imports and euro sports cars. It doesn't have to be fast, but it does have to be pretty and enjoyable to drive. I know thats not a whole lot to go on but thats really all I can say about my preferences. I live in the northeast of the US so I may have a bit of trouble hunting down rust free cars and certain cars that may be more common out west. I don't have much skill with wrench turning but I've got time and friends with experience so if I can find an easy car to work on I'll be pretty happy but if not I'll manage. If anybody has any suggestions or ideas on where to look for some good finds I'd love to hear them.

>>17474090
Pics of bronco?

>>17474063
Do you think kit kat follows through on any of his plans? Kit kat following through on something would be like a 6 year old growing up to be what they wanted to be when they were six. It's never going to happen

Don't know if this is a stupid question or not.

I had an electrical pump in my car instead of a mechanical one because I bought the car with it and I couldn't be fucked to put a mechanical one into the tank. Long story short it burned out, and so did the replacement, and the one I put now is burning out as well. I was putting some real cheap-o pumps but this time I'm doing it right and putting some proper work into the lines and everything, as well as a Holley Blue.

My question is, will daily driving a car with a Holley Blue damage the pump or something? What're the downsides of having a pump like that in my car? Aside from the noise.

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Should I black out my b-pillar or will I only look more poor?

>>17474652
Well it depends


Are you shooting for a modern look ?

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>>17474656
Yes, I'm looking to get an aggressive pro-touring look. I'm not ashamed it's a four-door but that post really messes with the lines IMO

>>17474677
Holy shit, consider suicide.

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>>17474717

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>>17474677
>buys classic
>wants to make it look modern
M8....

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>>17474717
He doesn't like the aggressive pro touring look

>>17474717
>>17474743

forgot this was the boomer thread

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>>17474717
>>17474744
>>17474745

This will always look superior to any failed abortion "pro" look.

>>17474745
It's not, peoples dreams are not crushed here.
Even if most people here prefer original

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>>17474745
>boomer thread

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>>17474652
I wouldn't because its just as bad as when guys shave the rear door handles off. it won't make you look poor but it will make you look like a fucking tool

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>>17474745
Ironically, it is boomers who do the shit you want to do.

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>>17474863
n-nani

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Got some new (matching) wheels put on my BRAT today....

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>>17474884
>have 4 project cars, plus a handfull of other cars at my old house up north
>feel like I never make any noticeable progress with any of them
>none of them are finished, or close to... slowly loosing hope that I will finish any of them
>too autistic to sell any of them to afford to finish the others...

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>>17469679
Mines rolled over twice.... possibly 3 times....


Good ol' straight 6 keeps going.... love this fucking truck.

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Is there a company that makes handling kits like QA1 but more budget oriented? This shit is crazy expensive

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>>17474948
Nice, I'd like that gauge cluster compared to mine. I'd like being able to see my charge and oil pressure

>>17475040
How is your dash pad in such good shape....

Mine looks like grenades went off inside the foam

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>>17475055
Really? Mine was in good shape

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>>17475040
Also, to be comple tell honest, oil pressure gauge is really overrated on the 67-1980s ford trucks. Sending units are shit, and pretty much all of the aftermarket ones are shit aswell...
Inevitably they almost always end up reading low pressure after a few weeks/months after installing a new one, despite the fact that the oil pressure is within normal operating range.
>I've learned to ignore it

Volt meter works good though, and I will admit it is nice to have

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>>17475102
Yup

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>>17475119
Damn dude. RIP that dash pad

>>17475119
cant you buy refurnished one?

>>17475139
Ehhh... probably? Not really sure.

Up where I live 70s ford/chevy/dodge pickups are abundant, but dash cracking plagues them all.. never any good ones in the junkyard, and too many other things need attention with my truck, so dash pad has been rather low on the list of things desu

>>17475055
I don't know, considering the truck sat for around 15 years

>>17475105
Holy crap, I like that truck. A great paint job, extended cab truck. 1973, right?

>>17475119
that truck looks like the epitome of a redneck truck with the camo paint, cracked window, fucked dash, beer bottle caps and cigs in the ashtray, deer antlers from the mirror. It fit's the truck though.

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>>17475209
>fit's
10/10 job me

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Spotted today

>One year only Studebaker Daytona

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>>17475209
Yellow w/ green bolt was a 1974 extended cab short box (first year for extended cab)
Sold it to a guy in cali a while back, regrettably. Joined the army and needed ko ey so wifey could survive without me for a bit. Wish I still had it...

And yes, my camo 78 is the epitome of the redneck stereotype. It has evolved into what it is over the years.
This is a pic of it when when I was 16 and bought it for $400

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>>17463819

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>>17475261
Nice, it's looks pretty clean in that pic. I'm thinking of trying to buy this truck, can never have too many 70s ford trucks. I just like how mean they look

>>17474161
I wanted a tiny Honda shitbike, then I got one. I wanted a heater in my ferd, then I got one. I wanted an upgraded stereo, then I got one. I wanted by truck to work, now it works.

I'll get it done, but I'm never in a rush for anything. Time is a mother fucker when you work 55-60 hours a week.

>>17475753

I remember my first part-time job.

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fuck it I'll join into the fray

muh '84 Civic DX I currently have entered and am taking taking on HotRod Drag Week in September. Sadly the stereo just went out, and my mexican contact for R12 refrigerant just got arrested.

Fuck my life.

>>17475863

Not my bag, but it looks clean.

I think I'm going to swap my powerglide out for a TH350 in the Impala. Maine is a huge state and I've been passing over taking the car around because the transmission just plain sucks the life out of long rides.

>>17475868
then if that's not your style, you'd probably like the family's '70 C20 with a 454 and TH400. Sadly, she's either eaten some lifters and a cam, or worse case she's killed the whole bottom end. Fuck oil starvation, man. No idea what we're gonna do with it, it's like $1,000 for a shop to fix it probably.

>>17475883

Sounds awesome, sorry to hear about the engine issue. Sounds like a perfect time to learn how to rebuild an engine!

>>17475897
desu I have no idea how to handle the cam bearings. I've done top end work, but cam bearings seem.... tricky. Especially when I don't want to take the bottom end apart.

>>17475753
Wanting something and then buying it isn't the same as engine swapping by yourself

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>>17475863
Not to imply your car is stock, but do they care about stockers/shitboxes?

I ask simply because I've been considering just throwing some slicks in the back of my truck and running 15s all week. Seems like watching the pros work would be a real learning experience.

>>17473905
Yeah it's doing about 310 BHP and 375 lbs torque. The carb makes you lose torque especially on the low end.

>>17474063
Yep it's all done new springs tubular real control arms sway bar aluminum drive shaft and subframe connects as well as new ball joints tie rod ends and bushings. Now I wanna redo the fuel system new rear end and finally paint. I wanna build an engine too but that's after u feel the project is "done".

>>17475963
I'm not going to swap the engine myself. I'll build it, but it would take me a month to do something a shop can do in 3 days

>>17476156
Nice.

>>17476456
>wants to build it
>doesn't want to put it in

uhh.. isn't it usually the other way around?

>>17476804
I live in an apartment, it would be difficult to swap it out. I can build an engine in my storage unit.

I would like to swap it myself, probably a hell of a lot easier than the time I helped a buddy swap the motor in is Audi, but it's a time and space thing. Also I want the satisfaction of knowing I built the motor in my hot rod ferd

>>17476813
Doing your own work on an Audi

>what did he mean by this?

>>17476861
It was my buddies B5 1.8t Quattro. Thing was fun, but he toasted the original engine. Swapping it was a bitch.

>>17476885
Yea, you never do any work on your Audis kiddo

I don't know why you attempted either

>>17477069
I owned a B5 1.8t Quattro.
Older german cars are fine to work on. Even something with a convoluted layout like a Quattro Audi

>>17477069
Okay? At the end of the day it's still metal and bolts. He's still driving it to this day.

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Happy Independence day everybody

>>17477236
Is the walmart packed today ?

>>17477249
Not yet it was p empty

Still trying to get rid of my 85, 1300 for anyone in here or friends or whatever.

Help me fund my Torino boys

https://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/6172602111.html

>>17477794
Why are you getting rid of that?

what kind of torino you have?

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>>17477875
Too many cars/projects. I have a 71 with a 351C and a 4 speed, I've posted here before but not recently.

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>>17474158
Was going to be like this.

Well looks like I'm doing a entire front end rebuild sometime next week. Front axle seals, wheel bearing and grease seals, repack front locking hubs, axle bearings, pinion seal. Going to be a fun night, it's always a race against the clock when I do big jobs at the dealership. Gotta have it out that night.

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>>17477972
>Too many cars/projects

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>looking for fiberglass hoods
>everything is this autistic shit
I want is an SS cowl hood that isn't a lift off, I want one with the hinges and I can't anything

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>>17468242
>>17468262
Haha the guy posted my truck on craigslist for $2500. Good luck buddy. I couldn't dump it for $1800

Also
>just brought home a classic car
>immediately go on craigslist looking for another

I have a sickness.

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>>17478507
Wow fuck me I butchered that post.

All I want is an SS cowl hood that isn't a lift off. Something made with provisions for hood hinges but I can't find anything.

>>17478579
VFN fiberglass has SS hoods with hinges

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Redpill me on Amazons /o/.

Anything I need to look out for?

>>17478689
Hell yeah, thanks anon.

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>>17478710
No problem fampai

>>17478706
rust, avoid autos at all cost

>>17463819
I bought a new sending unit for my '81 Fairmont. Apparently people use a dorman unit for a '65 mustang.

I pulled the old one out and found the PO didn't put the float on it when he replaced the fuel tank. The dorman unit doesn't actually fit the tank so I put the new float on the old unit and tested the resistance to ground. I got:

Old: 10 - 78 Ohms
New: 9 - 70 Ohms

Despite this, the fuel tank always reads full unless I pull the connector off the sending unit, in which case it reads empty

any help?

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Bought this 65 sport fury about 3 weeks ago. Can't believe how dumb the people who owned it before me were

>>17478755
You get a good deal?

>>17478755
>Can't believe how dumb the people who owned it before me were
This is one of my biggest fears. I don't even care if my car runs, as long as I didn't look like a fucking hack trying to get it to run.

>>17478755
how much?

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>>17478776
Spent 22k. Might've overpaid but the paint/body is excellent which is all I needed since I do everything else
Put chrome valve covers on since the other ones were leaking and the air cleaner helped out a lot performance wise

>>17478829
hope headers are your next step

>>17478829
Nice big block, how many ci?

>>17477794
Damn this is cheap and in good condition, you also live on the eastcoast. I would pay you in a second if I would already learn everything it is to know about laws and shipping procedure to get it accros the ocean in the yuroland. Anyway I hope it goes to a good hands. Somehow you americans dont appreciate your landbarges yet and that is a shame especially when we are talking about cadillacs and lincolns.

>>17478842
Probably a little later, need to get a oil gasket and the radio working first so i can get on a real cruise.
>>17478848
383 with a edelbroch 1406 on it

Anyone here want an old Holley 2280? It works but has a flat spot after idle--I don't know if it's the accel pump or not, I've not bothered to take it apart.

Also, which would be a better (both performance , and ease of conversion) replacement for a Carter BBD? A 350cfm Holley, or a Weber 38/38?

>using any carbs besides the Rochester 4Jet
wew

>>17479099
While my goal is a less anemic carb, I'd prefer not to go into single-digit mileage.

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66 Mustang reporting

>>17479099
thermoquad*

>>17479106
>I'd prefer not to go into single-digit mileage.
That's the exact problem Quadrajets and Thermoquads solve.
The primaries are microscopic.

>>17479487
Perhaps. But I'd like to do so without changing out manifolds though; it seems many of the non-stock /6 intakes are unable to use the heat from exhaust manifold.

>>17479497
a higher compression ratio will invalidate the choke stove anyway. In my experience a slant six defies the odds and can manage to keep itself running even without a choke (mine).

>>17479497
also, even though it may not be your thing, the Dutra Dual manifolds are easily the best $/hp ratio bolt on.
Is yours a 1 barrel? They pretty much run out of steam at about 4k rpm. A super six intake with a BBD will let it breathe a lot better but that ultimately just changed the bottleneck to the exhaust.

>>17479517
I never mentioned choke, but okay. I already knew that though, since the choke linkage doesn't work right on the BBD. (I have to nudge it up a little bit before it clicks in place....like the rod from the manifold is trying to push the axle the wrong way before I nudge it)

So you say thermoquad and quadrajet are good choice for a 4v that has decent milage on a light throttle?

>>17479112
That's really nice

Did you build that ?

>>17479553
My car is a Plymouth Valiant. From the factory, they never had anything bigger than a 1v if you got the slant 6. However, a previous owner of my car added the "Super Six" 2v manifold + Carter BBD from a 78 Aspen.

>>17479570
>(I have to nudge it up a little bit before it clicks in place....like the rod from the manifold is trying to push the axle the wrong way before I nudge it)
Is your BBD from a 318?

>So you say thermoquad and quadrajet are good choice for a 4v that has decent milage on a light throttle?
Yes they were designed to be good on mileage with a light foot and then have all the power you need when you open the secondaries. They both have an air door mechanism which shoves the air square down the venturi. Because of their teeny little primaries they can actually be made to work on smaller engines fairly well.

>>17479578
>However, a previous owner of my car added the "Super Six" 2v manifold + Carter BBD from a 78 Aspen.
Yeah that's hands down the most popular upgrade for a Slant Six.

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https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/6183408110.html
I know /ccg/ doesn't care for 80s cars but this is a steal. $3200, near mint condition and it's got a manual.
I would buy it, but I want an SX/4 that's a little closer to where I live. I hope it goes to a good home.

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>>17479601
>BBD from 318?
I don't know. Here's a pic, maybe you can tell from numbers. But yeah, as you can see, the choke needs to rotate clockwise from this view, but the rod it trying to push it forward.

As for the aforementioned 4v's, which would be better? A 4v intake wouldn't have as much carb size variation as a 2v would, (ie BBD much smaller than say a 500cfm Holley) would it?

>>17479487
Quadrajet and 4Jet aren't the same carb

>>17479699
They both have very small primaries though, that was his point.

Also, the Thermoquad and Quadrajets both seem to be huge cfm--like 800+. Isn't that a bit much for a 225ci engine, or do the small primaries offset that?

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Posted before. I bought this bitch pretty much as she sits, unrestored with a 425 oldsmobile big block, turbo 400 trans, and 12 bolt posi rear with 3.73 gears. No real body rust, entire undecarriage has been undercoated, looks good, but who really knows what that rubber shit is really hiding. All in all I think she's perfect for a frame-on restoration. Maybe a frame off, but I have neither the time or money for that.

Need to do

.Replace valve cover gaskets
.Find out why and where its leaking fucking coolant from
.Plugs and wires

Want to do
.Traction bars for the horrible wheel hop
.Rear coilover suspension
.All black interior swap with leather buckets from procar.
.Torqstorm single supercharger kit.

Thinking about having it tubbed, but Im on the fence about that simply because the bed is in great shape and rust free.

>>17479775
Most 4jets are squarebore though

>>17479825
Is "4jet" a 4v in general or a specific type?

Are there any clutch gurus in here? I'm trying to pick out a clutch for a one piece rear main Chevy 350 (LT1) with a Super T-10 4 speed trans and was gonna go with a RAM HDX but it looks like they have two that would fit, I can't see any difference between them. One says it's for an 82-92 Camaro and the other for a 71-84 Corvette/Firebird/GTO. I know GM has used the same pressure plate bolt pattern on all their 10.5 inch clutches. Emailed RAM to ask but idk when I'll hear back from them.

The clutches in question:
Corvette/Firebird/GTO
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ram-88761hdx/overview/

Camaro/Firebird
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ram-88730hdx/overview/

>>17479601
At the same time though, I'm not really planning to change any internals unless they break, so that limits how much a bigger carb can do.

>>17467547
can someone plz explain this meme to me

>>17479965
It started two years ago with a poll gtr vs zo6, the zo6 won and weebs have been mad ever since. Both are cool cars so I don't understand the arguing.

>>17479833
Its a specific Rochester carb. Also called the 4G/GC. One of the the first 4v carbs

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Making some progress on the el Camino

>>17475970
Nope, they don't care. And don't worry: my car is completely stock, with all 60 thundering horses and 57ft/lb's.

They've had a guy run a beetle, so they don't care. Just run in your class, and don't be a dick.

>>17480842
New pans?

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Late but wtv

>>17478522

I know that feel.

When I bought the International I got the guyt o come down to $3500 from $4000.

Earlier that week I found a sweet 87 Chevy, beautiful paint, short stepside bed, 4 speed. They had started at 5k, and over time had come down to 4k. I never called because I didn't figure they'd go lower.

The day I brought the IH back from Pennsylvania, they relisted the Chevy for $3500.

Don't get me wrong, I like the International. But that Chevy was in Maine, and was in a lot better condition. I learned my lesson though.

>>17479699
My bad.

>>17479775
>Also, the Thermoquad and Quadrajets both seem to be huge cfm--like 800+. Isn't that a bit much for a 225ci engine, or do the small primaries offset that?
The small primaries are okay for smaller engines. It might still be too much carb though but the great thing about these carbs is they can be tuned into or out of oblivion, depending on application.

You'd need to do a full performance build for it to be a decent carb on a 225 though.

>>17479632
You can't tell solely from the tag but chances are you do, the choke rod not lining up is a symptom of a 318 BBD on a 225. It'll still work fine as far as running though. I would switch to electric choke if it was possible.

>>17478891
>oil gasket and radio working
Okay, so four hours out of this next weekend and 15 bucks are out of your pocket, but how about some real shit, like those fucking headers you desperately need.

>>17481912
Mopar manifolds aren't bad and many FAST cars still use them. Headers might see a bump in performance maybe but it's not like the manifold is strangling the car to death.

>>17481946
too bad they look ugly as fuck on that otherwise clean ass bay

>>17482027
Yeah, some white paint would have been nice. A short 10 minute run would get the paint baked on nicely.

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>sound something funny all the sudden
>stop
>exhaust leak

fugg

>>17481897
Well the engine is stock, internally. To be honest I'm on the line with whether to upgrade other areas like cylinder heads and such, or just find a 318 to put in....then again, the latter would need other things changed too like transmission and differential (7.25 rear, )

>>17484224
a built 225 is more interesting then a 318 2bh. Not telling you what to do but there's a lot of hidden power in a 225.

>>17484279
I see. Well I'm not likely to break a 7.25 rear with the six anyway, so perhaps I'll do that then.

>>17484323
If you ever get the budget you should really consider an 8 3/4 rear end, you can just swap ratios willy nilly once you get practiced and it'll let you intentionally blow up a 7 1/4 with a sikk burnout. Your choice, though, if it's mild a 7 1/4 will live forever. i'm not trying to convince you of anything btw.

>>17484339
I thought A-body 8.75s were narrower than the others and were only available in small (5x4") bolt pattern? If I change the rear, I'm getting one in 5x4.5" so I don't have to carry two spares... And 8.25 would prob be easier to find anyway.

>>17484424
They are narrower.
Since it's THE Mopar rear end you can get one in any combination you want, new or used.
I know of at least two companies that make them new.

>>17484470
Yes, but surely the cheaper 8.25 would be adequate for a slant 6, even a built one?

>>17484488
Yes it will and it'll probably last forever. the main downside is just that the 8 3/4 is the only rear end with a swappable gear or easily swappable i should say and iirc it's the only OEM 2wd unit. Not 100% about that one though.

>>17484499
I think I'll just go with this. It's a decent upgrade, but without being one of those "need to replace manifolds, exhaust, cyl heads, cams, etc to get good use" things. I was told that I could message the seller for a /6 version. http://www.ebay.com/itm/322576020670?rmvSB=true

>>17484707
Since that's for a 318 you may need to fabricate a rod for the choke, or bend something, that's not too hard.

Not to be a debbie downer or something but i would caution against remanufactured carbs. I bought a reman BBD and it turns out the accelerator pump linkage has just a microscopic amount of slack so my 225 hiccups whenever you lay on the gas. I've tried adjusting it every which way but the only way to fix it is to rebuild the whole AP linkage.

>>17484771
Well it says you can get it with electric choke. And the BBD I already have is confirmed for V-8 version so I'm driving without choke anyway.

>>17484795
Fair enough, it's likely not such a pain in the ass to rebuild as a BBD either.

>>17483792
>driving down the road
>*PING*
>minute later car is loud as fuck
I'm not even surprised by that sound anymore, also fuck shorty headers

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