How in the FUCK did a goddamn land boat muscle piece of shit

It's a modern yuro style style sports sedan pretending to be a muscle car

B8

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>>17460088

>>17460094
>euro style
Please don't ever say such an offensive thing about our cars ever again. That piece of shit in OP looks like a hot wheel transformer designed by a 9 year old. European cars actually have tastefulness in the design. Americans just try to appeal to 18 year old boiracers.

>>17460105
>looks
alpha is a blatant BMW knockoff
gm benchmarked the e46/e90

>>17460115
And made it better.

>>17460088
>powerful engine
>wide as fuck rear tyres
>spoiler

>>17460094
>sedan
Coupe, and even then the back seats are a joke.

>>17460188
It's a cut n shut ATS

>>17460105
Fuck off cuck, I wish our cars looked that good.

You've seen one euroshit car you've seen them all.

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Because Americans realized that the power should ONLY be sent to the rear (correct) wheels, as God intended when He created our green Earth. AWD *drivetrains takes 40% of your power* is just a meme.

Maybe youve judged it too soon. Get behind the wheel of one and you'll notice it's nothing like old muscle.

>>17460263
nothing made in present time will ever be like old muscle ever again, the old muscle cars were around 3600lbs max and 2700 minimum so they were lighter than any of the new "muscle" cars. the old muscle cars has solid rear beam axles supported by leaf springs and double wish bone in the front with an enormous heavy engine that usually made in excess of 300hp and sometimes over 500, these factors combined with no traction control low tech almost no investment in handling and the resulting low price made these cars death traps the likes of which will never be built again

>camaro
>muscle car

Kill yourself.

>>17460322
pony car whatever, they're practically the same thing since we haven't had a true muscle car since 1988 when the G-body got killed off

>>17460342
>challenger/charger

>>17460347
challenger was a pony car and direct competition to the camaro and mustang and the charger is now a sports sedan, because a muscle car has 2 doors

Euro gunless cucks btfo. Non Americans really need to leave our Internet and fuck off. Stop poisoning our Internet with your retardation.

>>17460088
who gives a fuck
the GT-R is still faster than that american pile or it's big brother the corvette

>>17460352
>Challenger
>not 2 doors

>>17460387
The Challeneger is a pony car. Look up the damned definitions before you go calling every old coupe a "muscle car"

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>>17460342
>not a muscle car

>>17460387
challenger is a pony car not a muscle car charger hasn't been a muscle car since the 70s although the shelby turbos were pretty cool imo

>>17460395
>>17460399
Shit, I can't into reading. Disregard my post, I suck cocks.

>>17460397
that's right, pony car they're similar but not quite the same thing

>>17460407
Are you seriously suggesting that the current challenger is a pony car? It's not.

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>>17460387
>>17460395
>>17460397
>>17460399
>>17460405
>>17460407
pony cars and muscle cars BTFO by this god chariot on any course with turns

>>17460420
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Where were you when all the Yurocucks were btfo by a $27k rental car?

>>17460422
you laugh but you know it's true

>>17460440
Whatever you say, kid

>>17460420
Are you fucking serious. A V6 camaro with the 1LE pkg would crush that fucking thing for nearly 20 grand less.

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ok, stay BTFO by the god chariot burger

>>17460458
yeah but with the civic you'll get a better driving experience and build quality than you would in that pigfat ameribarge camero

>>17460465
>camero

You'll realize sooner or later that the civic is a trash economy car, and will never be anything more.

>>17460478
ok faggot, then tell me why i could go out right now, buy a 92 b18 swapped civic for 2 grand, boost it and tweak the suspension and btfo anything with a shitty economy car

>>17460492
>falling for the EG hatch with a couple of simple mods meme

>>17460492
Because it'll still be a rusty japanese shitbox that's worth even less than when you bought it. It'll only appeal to teenage boyracers who don't realize that loud =/= fast, and a hard plastic interior is not actually a positive thing.

>>17460496
>a hard plastic interior is not actually a positive thing
>says the guy unironically defending Gubbermint Motors trash

>>17460494
the eg hatch is not a bad car and they have a huge aftermarket as well it's better than any v8 in performance for the money

>>17460503
>ad hominem
Great, so you are beginning to realize how trashy civics actually are.

>>17460374
>$150k car is faster than a $50k car
Wow

>>17460496
ok boomer

>>17460509
Not him though.

>>17460310
>Cars are worse because they're better
I want retards nostalgic for times where they weren't even alive to fuck off

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>>17460509
they're better than any laughable gm shitpile

>>17460517
did i ever say that they were better you complete fucking mongoloid

>>17460518
It's really pathetic how boyracers have to come to threads and defend their scrap cars. It's like you guys are self-conscious or something.

>>17460530
we aren't boy racers, we're just rightfully defending this board from nostalgic boomers like yourself

>>17460537
>we
Don't drag me into this, now.

>>17460537
>muh sekrit club
Go make some friends, boyracer.

>>17460522
You're implying that old cars not being made again is a bad thing

>>17460088
OP is clearly an amerifat who is creating a false flag thread. Please leave us alone with your shitbox

>>17460342
The Challenger and the Chevy SS are the only modern muscle cars.

G

>>17460741
The SS isn't a muscle car because it isn't two doors. It's just a fast sedan like the chargers in top trims.

>>17460126
>spoilers
>on /o/
[spoiler]newfag[/spoiler]

It really isn't that hard to go fast on a track

Sticky tires + lots of downforce + stiff suspension + big motor + just enough reliability for a few laps

Put a good driver in the middle of all that and you've got a good time.

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>>17460088
same way a $50k vette with a shushbox rapes the pride of japan/yurop w/ dct's. shouldn't be like it do but it does.

Since when was it a requirement for a muscle car to only have two doors? Chevelles are pretty much THE gold standard for what muscle should. be and had sedan and wagon bodya tykes availiable. Also, the current challenger doesn't compete with the mustang, it's not a ponycar.

>>17462374
>carrying 4 passengers
Lmao fag. Two doors only. 1 for you and the other for your pupper

>>17460465
>Civic TR
>build quality

Doug Demuro disagrees. the spoiler is especially poorly built.

>>17462374
The SS 396 was an option pkg that was only available on two door models.

>>17460465
It's nice how the goalposts were immediately moved.

muh tires
muh aero
muh glass cannon engine good for one lap only

>>17462069
Thank god they started deleting this faggots posts.

>>17463315
>glass cannon engine

You know nothing about the newer gen camaros then. The engine is incredibly reliable and it always stays cool when tracking. You could track it all day.

>>17461532
Huh.

no replies.

>>17463750
Too bad the lt4 in the corvette and caddy beg to differ

>bbbut the camaro has better designed cooling so it can last 10 minutes instead of 5!!

>>17464613
Nice sources bro. Totally not biased you fucking shit tier weeb

>>17464626
>the corvette has never shat itself in media tests, multiple times
>the caddy has never either
Top fucking kek you are clueless
Come back when you aren't a blind gm cuckboy

>>17464506

I think most people understand that they're two different cars that appeal to two completely different tastes and the only people trying to prove one is better with numbers are fangays who can't even afford them.

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>>17460088

>THAT FRONT END

HOLY FUCK WHAT THE FUCK THAT IS DISGUSTING JESUS CHRIST I HATE AMERICA

Seriously though GM is making their cars look like fucking DOGSHIT. How is it that Ford continually ASSRAPES the SHIT out of FCA and GM when it comes to design? They all have shitloads of money, why not just hire competent designers? Christ GM, it's like you WANT to make fuck-ugly pieces of shit.

>>17464636
Go fucking read about it. I read an article a couple weeks back about the Camaro never slowing down a bit and tracking all day consistently while staying perfectly cooled.

>>17464802
I think the front end is pretty cool.

>>17464636
Come back when you're not a cuckposter cherry picking busrider. Actually, don't ever come back. You need a car to post here

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>/o/ hates GM
>/o/ hates Corvettes
>/o/ likes the Camaro
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>17464506
>>17464794
s/o/viet is currently ranged banned. Give him like a few more days and he will begin his GTR meme.

>>17465483
>/o/ is a single person

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>>17464867
It really is an excellent car. And related to what you and the previous guy commented..

"Here’s the part Chevrolet doesn’t want me to say: In the Z06, the LT4 has cooling issues. The mighty Corvette’s heart heat soaks or overheats. Remember those 11 heat exchangers I was talking about? The Camaro ZL1 will not overheat. I tried, but even after six sets of rear tires in four days—not joking—the thunderous V-8 never so much as simmered. Two of those 11 heat exchangers are actually the intercoolers that straddle the supercharger. They are redesigned and repositioned for ZL1 duty. It’s also important to note that the ZL1 version of the LT4 makes exactly as much power and torque as the Z06. In generations past, the Corvette would have to (officially at least) make the most power. These days, Camaro is free to be as strong as can be."

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/chevrolet/camaro/2017/2017-chevrolet-camaro-zl1-first-test-brute-squad-goals/

Also the car pictured is the 1LE variant which I do think is way over the top with the aero shit. The regular zl1 looks more reasonable. Pic related

>>17460088
What's with all the ricer addons and faux vents?

>>17465957
Aero, nigger.

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>>17460544
All he said was no car will be made like before because old muscle was a death trap.

>>17465820
Way too much plastic in the front

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>>17466057
It's not plastic

>>17460440
>>17460420
What are you talking about nerd , it did a 7:48 at the ring

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reminder

>>17469069
still faster than yurocuck shit

>>17464802
GM has put this engine in two other cars and has had cooling issues in both of them. Team Camaro obviously decided to go with the nuclear option for cooling this powertrain.

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>>17469116
lol delusional

>>17469069
I'm still just in awe of the Camaro here.

The GTR Nismo starts at $151,000, and the N-Attack Package is a $52,000 option.

The Camaro is less than 2 percent slower, and literally costs $130,000 less.

You could buy the Camaro and a GTR Premium for less money than the specific GTR that can beat the Camaro, and have enough money left over to ship them both to Germany and drive them both on the Nurnburgring yourself instead of benchracing them.

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>>17469162
the GTR is 10 years old, the camaro is not

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>>17469069
Reminder the GTR you can actually buy is slower

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>>17469170
you can buy the exact same model as the one that lapped the ring

>>17469166
well why haven't they updated the gt-r then? the camaro is still on the zeta platform from 2009 as well
>assmad gt-r fanboy

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>>17469177
Actually you cant buy it
Its a very limited production model

Its like saying anyone can buy a ferrari FXX

>>17469188
if it ain't broke don't fix it

>camaro
>2009
nope

>>17469199
yes actually that's when it was reintroduced using the new zeta body platform which is still in use, also cleverly zeta is the greek letter for f

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>>17469192
wrong, it says limited avaliability, not limited production

>>17469205
nope, the 6th gen camaro is a 2016 model car

>>17469199
>>17469205
hmm it appears i was incorrect, in that case i cede my point the zeta platform has been replaced by the alpha platform from 2013 onwards,
>the chevy camaro zl1 is still faster than any regular gt-r you can buy and costs less too

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>>17469225
> from 2013 onwards
are you retarded?

>the camaro is slower around the ring than the GTR
fixed that for you

>>17469231
yeah one limited availability gt-r which costs 100k more, whereas the camaro can be bought at virtually any chevy dealership in the world for 70k

>>17469295
>damage control

the GTR is still faster

>>17469162
A 2013 base model gtr on all seasons is only a couple seconds slower than a brand new unreleased 650hp camaro with track tires
Let that sink in for a bit

daily reminder the entire camaro zl1 1le costs less than the N-attack aero package that gets added to the price of the nismo gtr

>>17469295
You can't buy a zl1 1le

>>17469356
theyre taking orders right now

>>17469353
Daily reminder you can't buy a zl1 1le :^)

>>17469366
they're taking orders right now

>>17469361
Nope

http://www.chevrolet.com/byo-vc/client/en/US/chevrolet/camaro/2017/camaro-zl1/trim

>>17469352
proofs, it also would cost more, and that's odd considering a 2017 limited availability gt-r with the best in tire technology is only 8 seconds faster than the literal mullet mobile

>>17469386
yeah and, you can order and buy one right now from your living room so what?

>>17469352
No GTR went around the ring on all seasons. 2013 GTR didn't even record its run.

>>17469392
>with the best in tire technology
Yeah except that's wrong too
The n attack didn't use rubber as agressive as the camaro z28 even

A 5 year old 500hp gtr on all seasons is as fast at the ring as a brand new unreleased 650hp camaro on track rubber
Top kek
How fucking embarrassing
It took gm this long and this much effort to beat a base model gtr

>>17469404
Allow me to quote one of your gm cuckboy:^) see >>17469170

>650hp, unreleased car, track tires and FIVE YEAR to beat a base model gtr on run flat all seasons
>and barely beat it
TOP KEK

>>17469386
dealers are taking order for all 2018 camaros as of several weeks ago, sperg more

>>17469424
>all seasons
Nope.
>post shows video of run is N/A
exactly what i was saying.

>>17469447
>nono it doesn't count!
Lmao, it took gm this long to beat a base model gtrs lap time... and with 650hp, an unreleased car and straight up track tires! Lmao!

http://www.caradvice.com.au/199112/2013-nissan-gt-r-sets-ninth-quickest-nurburgring-lap-time-in-history/

>>17469192
>Claims the the N attack is not production by claiming "Limited Production"
>Only form of proof clearly says "Limited Availability"
>Being this fucking retarded.

How do you breathe and blink at the same time with the intellect of a bag of toenail clippings?

>>17469489
Never said it didn't count. Car and Driver is reporting what nissan themselves reported. doesn't add anymore credibility to the lap itself unless they were there to witness it.

>an unreleased car and straight up track tires! Lmao!
if the difference in drivers don't matter to you why do the tires? we already know a regular ZL1 produces regular Nismo performance with the same driver.

>>17469538
>more damage control
5 years, 150hp, and track tires to beat a base model gtr doing a traffic run
Lmao, gm is really on their game

>>17469551
>base model
actually black edition.
>5 years
They beat the car though just not the driver.

>>17469564
>Still trying to defend gms inadequacy
Top Lmao

5 years, 650hp, unreleased car and track tires to beat a plain Jane all seasons equipped gtr
So pathetic...

>>17469710
ok

Goddamn I wish anyone posting about the GT-R would get immediately banned.

>>17460088
>watching youtubes about cars
>shmee picking up a pagani with some guy
>mentions nurburgerking record breaking pagani vehicle

>mfw 7:45 laptime

This camaro is based if for no other reason.

>>17469899
The Pagani lapped a 6:47 and 6:30

>>17469412
I want to point out that you're arguing that a gtr is BARELY better than a camaro. That is fucking embarrassing, but not as much for gm

>>17469982
Any average person has a chance of achieving those speeds in a gtr
Average guy in a camaro won't get under 8 minutes

>bbbut this brand new unreleased camaro is as fast as a 5 year old plain Jane gtr!
Lmao

>>17470007
>any average person can achieve those speeds in a GTR

This has got to be the most idiotic thing I've ever fucking read. Neck yourself asap.