Dealership stories?

>>17453036
no one?

>>17453036
I miss lpg

>>17453036 (OP)
>be me
>18
>put stupid blue racing stripe with matching hubcaps on Nissan Cube
>decide that I wanna sell said Cube
>go to a locally owned mom and pop dealership
>dealer tells me "I'll give you 4 grand for it but first you gotta get that gay pride stripe off it"
I never kek'd harder than that day

>>17453036
Chevy dealers suck. Be sure to avoid

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>>17453036
did work experience in a jeep dealer ship in high school, workers where top blokes, boss was a complete cunt and when i declined his apprenticeship offer he bullshited to me and made me pull out weeds in cracks. made apprentices paint walls and drive customers around.

nothing to exciting

>>17453099
what

>>17453036
>look around dodge dealership while grandparents get car serviced at Toyota dealership next door
>every dodge salesman wears sunglasses
>its heavily overcast
Are the glasses a psychological thing?

>>17453099
Get the rest out.

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>>17453036
>Be me at Chevy dealer
>Ask to test drive camaro ss
>They tell me they don't allow test drives on the v8, sane with the corvettes
>How am I suppose to know if I like the car
>Tries to convince me to test drive a v6
>Tell him I'll try a different dealer
>He says wait while he take to a manager
>Comes out with keys and says boss gave the ok which is weird cause he never does
>Get in v8 camaro
>Has over 80 miles on it
>Ask him why the mileage is that high on a car that is never test driven
>Claims cars always come with those miles
>Fuckingliar.jpg
>Rev the shit out the car and keep flooring it
>Return to dealership
>He asks if he should get the paperwork ready
>I tell him I want to check out ford
>Goes on about how he begged his boss to let me drive a v8 and if I walk out he can't promise I'll get a good price
>Leave and never look into a very again

>>17453087
I feel you

>>17453112
its so you cant see their tell when they tell you that dart is the fastest most reliable car ever made that still gets 40 mpg

>>17453206
kek'd

I've only bought a couple cars new. Kia was a fucking breeze. It was like I walked in and handed them my card, now I have new car. Dodge was a little sloppy and the process took longer, but they were ok. I custom ordered the car and they said it would take 3-12 weeks for it to come in. Took 5 weeks to come in. They didn't completely have their shit together but it was good enough.

>be me 2015
>buy 2007 bmw and make it look like a 2014
>roll up to dealerships freshly washed and ask to see more expensive cars
>pretend i want to buy but just joyride multiple corvettes
>continued to do so for multiple cars at other dealerships
felt good

I sold cars and was in sevice depts for several dealerships for about 6yrs from 2003-2008.
Some of my favorite times was getting rid of the roaches on the lot on our sub-credit lot

One day girl drives up in whats left of a suzuki swift
Im next up
Talk to her says she wants a suv take her to closest one its a explorer
She asks about payment i say 300 of top of my head cause it dont matter i just wanted to see what kind of reaction i would get.
Ohh no she says.... Then she sees our black Navigator fully loaded and its got less than 25k on the dial
She knows its out of her league but she goes around it and asks what kind of gas milage does this get?
Straight up tell her"miss this is a luxury vehicle and if you care milage then this suv isnt for you"
She is stunned then of course offended and asks for my manager is say "ok"
Get my fellow salesman tell him whats up he goes along with it 2hrs later he sells her a aztek for all the money and i get half the comission
I lol'd

Another one just cause i miss LPG
Short and sweet:
See guy walk in to lot from far east end
Walk to him say hello how can i help he says no
Follow him ten steps "hello what can i help you find today sir?"... No response
Follow him about 2 car lengths behind wait for him to turn around
He does and says "can i just look around without anyone helping me?"
I say "No"
He walks off the lot back to his car and never seen again
Felt good
Never said i was the best salesman

>>17453036
My last experience buying a car at a dealership went pretty well:
>salesman picks me up at the airport
>arrive at the dealership
>car is waiting outside
>immediately go for a test drive
>salesman directs me to local back roads
>tells me there are no cops and to go ahead and open it up
>go way, way faster than most dealers care to allow
>salesman is cool, we tear through a few more back roads for a bit
>head back and sign some paperwork
>drive car home

I am a Sales Manager at an Infiniti dealership.

I just want to be liked and everyone hates me.

>>17453970
lmao fuck you

I have been to a Honda and Lexus dealership and the fags there refuse to negotiate the price.

So I just left as I refuse to pay MSRP like anyone would.

>>17453980
Bro, you can't violate
>the no haggle zone.

>>17453874
kek

>>17453970
>I just want to be liked and everyone hates me.
Hey, at least you have something in common with your customers

>>17453980
>I have been to a Honda and Lexus dealership
It depends what you are trying to haggle. If you're going for civics then you won't have much luck. They might knock a few grand off, but that's it.

>>17453919
Sounds like a you were buying a higher end car? Usually dealerships will go above and beyond for people who are buying higher end or expensive cars. I bought a Hellcat last year and my salesmen drove us about 10 miles away from the dealership to a large industrial area with no traffic. He stopped the car, pulled out the red key, and told me to go wild.

>>17453087

You and me both

>>17453112
They don't want you to see the circles under their eyes from the cry they have every morning they wake up and realize they're still a Dodge salesman.

>>17453099
I found a big block of metal just sitting in the engine compartment

>>17453112

More of an American. In most places in the world it is very disrespectful to have a serious conversation while wearing shades.

>>17454823
It's considered pretty disrespectful in most of the US, barring Florida maybe. But Florida is is borderline 3rd-world/Australia-tier.

>>17453824
There is no manager, is there? :)

>>17453970
Sales managers are people too? Can you cite a source?

>>17453112
>Can you take the sunglasses off
>Nah man dang ol sunrays in muh eyes and all dat.
>lights up Marlboro in dealership lot
>Lets go check of this hear 1500 , bitches love it

I Literally just walked away. Does dodge meme like this purposely or is that shithole town I used to live in the next on the list of places to test nuclear weapons?

>>17454265
I think the only car Honda will haggle on is the fit.

>>17454283
That wasn't the "red key " anon.
>stranger danger

>>17455453
Of course there was a manager they usually dont come out of the office to talk to customers until they have a deal on paper already.
I look young so i grabbed an older salesman who i could trust that wouldnt skate me on the deal and could play manager.

I work at a US Jaguar/Land Rover dealership

>>17453970
Are you sad that the guys at the other luxury dealerships won't take you seriously because you sell tarted up datsuns?

>>17453970
Answer me this

Is the Q50 really the Skyline successor?

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>>17454906

>>17453036
>used car sales manager shows up to work with a boner because he took too much viagra trying to fuck his wife. leaves for hospital
>a 90's caddy funeral home limo gets taken in on trade. a forward-seating, sadness limo. the dealer principal and sales managers get a black porter to drive them around to hockey games and strip clubs, needless to say there's cocaine and hooker bj's involved.
>two salesmen driving their truck home drunk see are getting pulled over. the driver swishes chew tobacco spit to cover the alcohol smell on his breath. Note: it wasn't his spit.
>porter abdul aka 'dabdul', on a lean, dab and xanax cocktail floors a sold new chevy volt in the car wash, destroying it
>customer buys a new escalade at night thinking it's a black one. it's actually a PURPLE escalade and the salesman doesn't tell him.
>the internet video/social media guy offers to shoot a porno of my supervisor

>>17453156
>cunt.jpg

>>17453036
I bought a car at a car dealership

>>17456281
Do car salesmen make enough to rate coke and hookers? Or is it just the sales manager and the dealership owner?

>>17456353
The new & used car 'lifers' made decent money but at the cost of divorces and heart attacks. Finance too. The 8-a-month new car salesmen think they're the hottest shit (after being fed by the sales manager at first) but get BTFO and end up selling Darts.

>>17453095
To add onto this

Avoid GM products at all costs.

going to work at a Chverolet dealership next week as a sales consultant, ive sold cars before on my own but nothing over $4500 for cash no financing bullshit, any tips? other than don't do it

I'm a General Manager at a used car dealership

today marks 365 days without pay

ask me anything

>>17456492
1. Why haven't you starved to death?
2. Why haven't you gotten a different job you dumb ass

>>17456492
Used car dealerships aren't charities. So why are you still there?

>>17456510
1. I sell car parts the dealership doesn't use or will throw away/ ive been eating into my savings and flipping cars on the side
2. My dad is the owner and hes the biggest dick anyone has ever met, im being held hostage

>email dealership asking what the out of door cost would be
>no fucking email back
>for a car that's been on the market for months
well they can go fuck themselves.

>>17456525
i have about 18,500 USD with the owner (my dad) who wont give it to me so im waiting around till i get that shit so i can dip, also its a family owned business and ive never worked anywhere else in my life. I only basically everything to do with cars/financing/paperwork/ect. Id have to find a good paying job before I can leave

>>17456561
try calling

>>17456583
:[ Fucking hate talking on the phone

>>17456552
Josh?

>>17456592
No I'm not Josh, but if Josh is in the similar slave situation I'd love to talk to him

>>17456577
If he doesn't have the money to pay you (for whatever reason), either the business is going down the toilet or he's so unethical he's going to keep fucking you in the ass. Either is bad, look for another job and leave.

>>17453970
you're a blue collar wage-cuck, what do you expect?

brehs tell me when and how to get the best deal on a new car

>>17456656
I'm low key really selfless and the company really needs me, he's a total dick but if it doesn't pay off by my birthday next month I'm leaving

>>17456720
>never buy a new car
>profit

>>17453156
>>17453095
>>17456487
As a dealer at a chevy I would like to say FUCK YOU. You assholes give our dealerships a bad name because we always get little shit stains like you who want to test drive the V8 cars then dont buy them. It should be law that you assholes have to pay us for wasting our time

>>17453036
Went to a Honda dealership yesterday to look at the new si. They hadn't been cleaned and serviced yet so could only look at them. The dealer and I ended up bullshitting about our projects and we both own 91 civics. Was pretty fun and he didn't try to sell me shit.

>>17456738
>car with 80 miles on it
>new
Fuck no snake.

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>>17456487
>work at FCA dealership
>GM dealership across the street
>they're always jabbing at us about x brand's reliability
>they have 3x the warranty fleet we do
>literally couldn't store them all on site last year because they got so many new cars back with fucked up this and that
>i've played phone games and cleaned shop all week because we have nothing to work on
>mfw

>>17456726
>I'm low key really selfless
Straight up tell him you want your money and see what happens. Your opinions may change.

>>17456783
I'm thinking of getting a 14 or 15 abarth, any known issues with them?

>>17456799
The dash lights up like a christmas tree and it throws codes every week. Googling it would be faster than listing everything.

>>17456738
Selling cars is a pain? Lots of lookie loos?

>>17456808
I literally Google it, and I get forums just saying "yeah nah rear hatch leaks, most reliable car on Earth. Btw did you hear my sikk flowmasters"

I'm having a hard time finding actual issues with them.

>>17456726
In other words, the company is going down the toilet. It's not going to get better, anon. And you're not going to get paid either. Cut your losses.

>>17456811
Lots of faggots who want to test drive and bullshit me for 3 hours then dont buy.

>>17456767
Alright yeah we try to discourage people from test driving certain cars and maybe tell a white lie but you know what? THE V6 IS LITERALLY THE SAME CAR, YOU DONT NEED TO TEST THE V8 BOY RACER. I wasnt the salesman in that story anyway

>>17456799
aside from being ugly? :^)

We don't see many actual Fiats here but from what I've seen the most common thing is they, as >>17456808 said, throw codes for electronics.
BUT...every code I've seen on one for electronics were on things that are part of the popular equipment package.

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>>17456831
>V6 is literally the same as a V8

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>>17456839
I figured.

I work in refi and our esc is though aul. The cost of a 60/120k esc is super cheap on them, which means not much big stuff goes wrong. Thank fully they depreciate like a rock so I can scoop up a lightly used one for cheap.

>>17456842
Pic related

>>17456738
>make a test drive
>don't buy the car
>dealer gets mad
here in the name of every human that ever was and ever will be: go fuck yourself
it's called test drive for a reason, not buy drive
fucking cunt

>>17456842
>>17456854
I meant everything but the engine you retards

>>17456859
Then dont bitch when we say "you can test the V6 because if we let every retard test the V8's they would have hundreds of miles on them"

>>17456894
They aren't even close to the same.

The v6 has weaker brakes, cheaper suspension, lower spec cooling system and a cheaper driveline.

>>17456906
And this is why a lot of people don't really like car salesmen that much - you don't even know the product you're selling and you get in the way without really adding any value in return.

>>17456906
Then give us 100 bucks non-refundable, but if you decide to buy it will go towards the purchase of the car. Thats fair for wasting my time and putting miles on the v8

>>17456894
ever heard of the concept of a demonstration car?
get one V8 and let people test drive it, regularly check everything so it stays as new and you are fine
if anyone is a bitch it's you guys

>>17456920
>100 dollar non-refundable deposit to try a car you night not like
"No"

If you don't that most people are not buying them after the test ride, then it's your fault for not closing them better. Git gud.

>>17456922
That not only wastes money on our part, it meaans every 18 year old white kid is going to show uo the day he gets his license to test drive. Look like I have already said its not chevy, its you people who are the problem. Im sure Ford doesn't allow test drives of their V8s

>>17456937
you can still say no to 18yo kids with fresh licenses, dickhead
get some balls, my god
but you don't need to lie about test drives anymore

and why would it be wasted money
first you get way better chances on actually selling a car
second you can still sell the car later on when it has like 5k or 10k or whatever miles with a reduced price and still make a huge profit out of it

your post just showed me that the concept of a demonstration car is new to you
what a fucking shitty dealer you must be

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okay i should actually share a story instead of shitposting about the GM guys across the street
>boomer pulls in and wants inspection on 1 year old challenger angerykitty
>gives me keyfob
>it's the red one
>holyshitholyshitsholyshit...should I?
>don't
>rear tires are completely bald because he's been driving to track day on his stock daily driver tires and drag racing people
>call him before replacing and ask him if they're the original tires
>"oh no those are about a month old"
>mfw

>>17456937
>go test drive v8 camaro I intend to buy
>it's got 80 miles on it
>say no and leave because I don't want a used car
>salesjew spergs out

>>17456859
Why should we let you test a car, possible damage it or wreck it, that you are more than likely unable and unwilling to buy? I also sold Chevy for about a decade. The guys actually buying the V8s either dont need a test drive or they get all the numbers worked out satisfactorily first and test drive while finance is printing up the deal.

We know you children are not buying, you dont work for Car and Driver doing a review, and we don't owe you anything. Its our merchandise. It will be handled and operated at our prerogative. If you don't like it, tough shit. Customers are hardly ever right. You don't get to use and abuse our vehicles if you are not willing and able to pay for it. No free fun. Hit the bricks pal.

>>17456952
Its not new to me and I dont own the dealership, I simply work there and that being said I understand why my boss dont want to blow 40k on a demonstration car so assholes who dont buy can ring up miles. Im actually going to bring uo the 100 dollar idea to my boss tomorrow

>>17456906
You can get, and we have the V6 model with the Brembo brakes and all that other shit. People who never sold cars having opinions about how cars are sold. Hilarious.

>>17456955
Most people dont know we get the cars with only a few miles on them at most so the 80 mile thing was a smart play on the dealers part

>>17456955
Exactly. The people who actually buy the v8 models dont want one with all the boy racer jack off test drive miles. They don't even really need a test drive. You have to convince some of them to do it.

And that's why we don't worry what you sub-prime cape entitled cum stains think about your rights to test drive our property. We care about the likes and opinions of real buyers.

>>17456489
bump

>>17456984
this is a shitty story

>>17456988
>>17456489
stereotype your customer and figure out what they'll like most about what they're looking for

>>17456489
Let your aggression flow.

>>17456953
I assume the red key fob is what makes the car go fast?

>>17457015
Black one limits it to like 500 hp

>going to buy a GTR because I want a meme
>can't test drive them at all
Still gonna do it, not sure if I want normie blue or meme red yet.

>>17457015
yeah, the black fob has a 500hp limit but you can enable a valet mode on either one (which he forgot to do)

>>17456988
Hold on to your anus. Dont let anyone jump on your deals. Find a manager who is willing to close for you without making you half the deal to the house. Learn every damn thing about the trucks, especially the HDs and the tow and trailer ratings, I mean learn the name of the fucker bolting it together. Everything. Trucks is where there's money, and that will be your bread and butter. Dont bother talking to people in the show room looking at the vette or the camero unless they are older. You are not ready to sell that yet. Be nice to them l, give them a card. Smooze them to death. Old people can be great customers if they like you. Ask about peoples jobs casually but quickly up front. There's like a million things I want to tell you about selling Chevy.

>>17456963
>Why should we let you test a car, possible damage it or wreck it, that you are more than likely unable and unwilling to buy?
What the fuck is insurance for? idiot
>>17456966
100 is too much
for 100$ I can actually borrow a car for real

>>17456859
I work at a used car dealership and all our cars are fairly close together and crammed in, as a result, i personally don't like to take out a car all the way in the corner moving 15-20 cars just for a person who is "just looking". unless you're a serious buyer with cash in hand, or have a great credit score im not moving the fucking cars dipshit. 80% of people that come on the lot have horrible credit/ shitty down payment (mostly niggers). Not to mention all of our cars are inspected and driven beforehand so we arent going to sell you a shitbox that isnt working. Not only that but we also give a free warranty where we cover 100% of the issues.

>>17457029
>a car repaired by insurance is still going to have an accident on it. We have to disclose that in our state. That knocks at least 3-4 grand off the value. We were already standing to make a gross profit of 1-3k on a v8 car. That means of you wreck it, and we fix it, we can make zero/wash out on it or worse loose money of it sits around forever and we have to whore it just to clear the sheet. You are saying we should risk loosing money for your fun. Moron.

>>17457029
If you cant afford to lose 100 bucks, you cant afford the best American muscle on the market

>>17456969
Unless you've got a 1le on the lot, which is possible but I doubt it, your wrong.

Even the v6 track pack has smaller brembos, and less aggressive suspension. For someone who works with these cars, you should know that.

>>17457050
you're trolling and it's obvious bub. You're probably a yuropoor.

>>17457056
All because you are a poorfag doesn't mean everyone is. A 100 bucks is nothing these days, especially since we are talking about a car that starts at 40k

>>17457046
>I work at a used car dealership and all our cars are fairly close together and crammed in, as a result, i personally don't like to take out a car all the way in the corner moving 15-20 cars just for a person who is "just looking". unless you're a serious buyer with cash in hand, or have a great credit score im not moving the fucking cars dipshit
why are you even blogging to me about it then
tell them that you won't get the car out for them unless they buy
what has this to do with a big dealer for new cars who is just a fucking cunt to his customers

seriously do you faggots even know how to differenciate between cases?
why can't you just be honest to your customer for once?

hey idiots, don't worry, if I ever met a asshole like you at a dealership I would just go to the next one
I don't need to sell cars for a living, I'm just looking to buy one

captcha: drive guise

>>17457068
I think you're forgetting we're in America where people do two retarded things. BTFO there dti, and continuously roll debt into a new loan. You have no idea how often I see a guy trying to refi his 42k Silverado when he works at a gas station and grosses 32k a year.

>>17457052
It doesn't matter. THIS ISN'T GRAN TURISMO. We are not in the business of teaching children what different sized brakes feels like. They can wack off at home imaging it. When they are grown up and have the money they can buy it and find out. Trust me, we can tell.

>>17457088
That's literally not the point. You, or whoever began this discussion, started that you might as well test the v6 Camaro cause it's "the same" as a V8. It's not. Stop being a fuck, and learn how to close a deal, or spot bogs when they walk into the lot.

>>17457095
People dont buy a V8 for the brakes retard

>>17457095
Running finance is usually enough to get people to fuck off.

>>17457114
If you go fast, you want to be able to turn and stop. But you wouldn't know that of course.

Have you considered moving to a Dodge dealership? The challenger seems more like your attitude

>>17457095
I can't close a kid with no money, nobody can. I don't test drive them in v6s. either. If they really have to jack me off and live out thier wildest dreams they can do it in a v6. And if they show the slightest bit of recklessness test drive is over, instantly. Sometimes they don't even make it to the first light. Saves me alot of time. We have thier license and they go on a no drive list we keep on the managers desk. But by now we know all these backwards hat fags by sight.

I actually just bought a car with my mom along to sign the loan and title. My mom decides to take it for a test drive and promptly stalls it so bad the battery dies. The mechanic brings it back to figure out what the problem was and he tells my mom. Now my mom will not accept that her driving is bad (the reason she was doing the test drive instead of me was so that she could show me the fundamentals of manuals), so she huffs and puffs and says that we're not buying the car and this and that and the other thing. Well, the dealership lady decides that even if we won't drive the car, I should at least learn how to drive stick from someone who knows how to do so, so she drives me to a parking lot and gives me some pointers and I drive back. I then do a test drive with my mom and convinced her to buy the car with me. All in all, pretty great dealership experience.

>>17457120
So you are saying people buy a V8 not for the engine but for the brakes?

>>17457132
No, I recommend some reading comprehension
>>17457118
I can see that being a reasonable tool. Our customers get completely asshurt about their credit score.
>>17457125
Then that's the time to say fuck off, no test drive without financing or commitment. But like I said, that should be about to be spotted.

>>17457120
That's a different guy. I have sold more vettes than v8 camaros. Corvette gets more attention, on the floor but the shit stains know better than to even ask. They spend all day drooling on camaros so I don't deal with camaro customers unless they are old.

>>17457140
Credit score shaming is a powerful tool. They wouldn't even let me look at a golf until my 760 came back.

>>17457025
this is good stuff anything else you want to share will be welcomed

When is the best time to buy a car? Currently looking to get a GTI but dealerships won't go under 20k even though the new model is around the corner

>>17457194
You can sell cars to people with bad credit, this is Chevy. The key is make them excited about the huge upgrade, and yes a 2017 Sonic or Cruze with its tech and features is a huge upgrade over thier 2001 dodge neon. They will be so excited they will want the car as much as you want the deal. That's why they swallow the 19% interest. They want ac and blutooth more than money. Just go with it. Remember everything the customer says so that later on you can bring it up as reasons they said they needed a new car. You just feed back to them thier own thoughts. It works better too if you don't say "you said you needed something bigger, or safer" or whatever but just naturally point out all the things they mentioned as if you were just remembering to tell them. "oh I wanted to show you guys how much room there isin the back seat!" "my favorite thing about these new cars is the safety features, its remarkable how safe they are for both impacts and rollover" ext.

>>17457251
Last day of the month, 1 hour before they close. If they are short a deal for their sales goal you might be able to make them suck you off. Bit you have to walk in serious. "I'm here to buy a GTI, and I don't have much time."

>>17457194
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0BwLJ8mj-ZuoGc0NKUEtoLTBmQXc
Check out literally anything and learn the gist of persuasion. I also highly recommend Influence by Dr. Robert Cialdini if you don't bother to read anything else. >>17457254 has a perfect example of one trick out of that book, and a powerful one to boot.

>>17457251
Whenever you feel like getting two or three dealerships to fight for the sale.

>>17453036
Pretty sure the VW dealership in Colorado Springs offered to fix a weepy oil pan gasket for $2700+ dollars when I went there to get a fucking fob key programmed.

Has a pretty good experience at Jeep.
>>Want new Wrangler
>>Go to Jeep dealership
>>Tell them I want a 2 door sport, hardtop, manual transmission and A/C (apparently A/C isn't standard)
>>They get me one from another dealer
>>Want 28k for it. (Brand new 3 miles on it)
>>I say no and low-ball at $20500
>>They go for it because it's near the end of the year and new ones are coming in.
>>Give them $20500 and leave with new paid off Wrangler. So far so good.

>>17457365
That is fucking insane if you aren't memeing.

>>17456823
I'm gray Abarth guy from the hot hatch thread, I've been reading about rubbing in the front suspension over bumps, something about the shock towers. Just look up "Abarth suspension noise" and you'll find a few places talking about it. That's the only real thing I've noticed is that the front end seems to make more noise going over what should be inconsequential bumps than it should.

>>17457376
No memering, I was actually pretty surprised they went for it. I mean it's a no frills Wrangler, no power anything, super base minus hardtop and A/C no crazy color (black) it's base of the base. Figured I can just upgrade what I want later on. And I have, still spent less than if I got it configured and Jiat.

>>17457390
there is lot of air on base model prices

>>17457402
Right, everyone wants the Rubicon unlimited with every option. Base model 2 door sport will just sit there.

https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?shopperListingsSearch=38480368#listing=174870478

Should I get this Mustang?

>>17453036
Stole a Hellcat from a local CDJ for about 7k under msrp.

>>17457410
yep . and people buying wranglers are really seasonal people , when next year's models are incoming dealers are more willing to drop prices just get away of old stock

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>see car
>Like car
>Buy car

>>17457415
That's a strange lookin mustang, and if you want a v6 you should get the fusion.

>>17457428
and when i mean seasonal , i mean people who have few year old wrangler they go and swap it in , since some new color came in

>>17457435
why would you buy that

>>17457415
>Ever considering a V6

>>17457428
Yep, I'm fairly happy with it, had it for a year so far and it's a pretty decently comfortable ride, super fun with the doors and top off just cruising around. Considered trading it in on something else, but everything I have test driven has been meh. The worst was the Ecoboost mustang. I just literally couldn't even. Turned right around and took it back to the dealership and said no... I'm not a fan of the fake engine noises. He had "no clue what I was talking about"

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>check engine light comes on
>researched and found its a bug in the ECU that causes the O2 sensors to drop offline for periods of time
>gas mileage in the fucking toilet
>manufacturer previously issued service bulletin to have it fixed, ECU just needs to be reflashed.
>take it into dealership with service bulletin
>sure anon, $150 for a reflash
>but mr. dealership guy, this is a factory defect, why am I paying to fix it?
>"We're only required to provide free service on safety defects, anon"
Fuck dealerships.

Eh not a great story but still
>Purchasing car from dealership
>Bargain with him over 2 weeks
>Deciding if I really want it
>Get him to do a bit of work so it's perfect, and a good price. Calls me at work to say it's good to go. Say I'll pick it up in the weekend. Putsit aside for me.
>Get too excited and go on my lunch break
>Outside of work I dress very formally but at work (construction manager) I need to wear hi vis, boots etc
>Turn up in work gear and walk onto the yard
>Guy I've been bargaining with is with a co-worker and doesn't recognize me in my work gear
>Walk over to them and he mumbles to his co-worker "you can have this guy, good luck getting finance for one of them" within earshot then starts walking away.
>Say I've got cash and I'm picking up the car
>"Oh it's you Anon didn't recognize you! How's it going!"
>Rage a little and walked out


In hindsight I probably should of got it since it was a great deal.

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>>17457440
Because 6 liter, aluminum block engine hooked up to a t56 six speed and 14" brembo brakes all the way around.

>>17457438
You're absolutely correct, and I'm guilty of that as well, when they came out with that purple Wrangler, was set on trading in on it, until I found out it's about 40k

>>17457460
ok but why tho

>>17457469
Because I can

>>17457046
I made a stealership take one off the showroom "patio" for a test drive, didn't wanna buy it. Which circle of hell do I gain?

>>17453087
this

>>17457459
You're in the wrong area. The most hilarious shit I've heard of was a farmer trying to buy a fleet of ten trucks from ford.
>shirtless old fuck in suspenders asks to test drive moderately optioned f150
>isnt allowed
>test drives older used ford
>rages and goes to dodge
>buys ten pickups cash and informs dealership owner at ford.

Fucking farmers and oil workers man. They'll roll in with a boot full of hundreds and not wear clothes.

>>17456963
You act like a fucking v8 is some kind of precious art. You're not selling Ferraris man, you're selling the mid-life crisis mobile. Anyone making anything close to decent money could afford your muh v8

>>17457979
Spotted the poorfag

>>17457979
What the matter? You a honda ricer

>>17457469
>>17457440
>why would you buy a cts-v? XD

seriously?

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>>17456984
How can you be this autistic?

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I sell vws.

>>17453092
>kek

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>>17453103
T-that
T-that is a VW

>>17453103
>stance
>shitty photography
>key lanyard
>retarded flat brim hat
>sk8r sneakers
everytime.

>>17457725
This happened but with a black guy who owns a shuttle service thats contracted out to take government employees around to the facilities and metro stations in the DC area. Dude needed 4 15 passenger vans but nobody wanted to sell to him.

He came to us and bought 4 2016 ford transit passenger vans out right.

Dude was pissed from the other dealers but left us happy as hell.

>>17453036
In my experience I'd rather buy a car from a dealership than some fuckwad off craigslist. Trying to deal with sellers on craigslist is a nightmare.

>>17457254
thanks for the advice im hoping to be a success

>>17454283
>higher end
>hellcat

>>17460237
>most expensive car on the lot
Everything is relative, although they probably make more on a loaded truck.

>>17456831
You sound like a great salesman.

>>17456919
This!

Reminds me of the Honda dealership in Tyler that took a deposit on the Type R at MSRP. When they realized they MSRp was below market they tried to pressure the customer into taking her deposit back.

If i was as bad at my job as car dealers i would starve.

>>17453087
Same here.

>>17457125
>no drive list

You are all powerful bro!

>>17458856
That's fucking hilarious.

Also why won't you faggots let me buy a car on an amex? Even BMW said no, max of 15% i even offered to pay 2% fees. I'd have gotten 3.5% back.

>>17457125
What company do you work for?

No wonder the market that drives new cars aggresively (assholeish) is kept by BMW. They've never been a cunt to me, and always tell you to speed and floor it then slam on the brakes during a test drive. They even put you on the highway so you can floor it up to 80-90 and enjoy the mellow ride.

>>17454823
>it is very disrespectful to have a serious conversation while wearing shades.
>car salesman
>a serious conversation

>>17456963
>Being this good to be baited

>>17457025
Why is all of the money in trucks?

>>17460787
They're expensive, loaded with a maze of options so you can't compare any two models and can't get a comparable quote from a different dealer, have a huge markup because of all the options and being popular and little price competition from international brands because protectionism.

>>17453092
good bants kek

>>17460571
A conversation involving tens of thousands of dollars is at least mildly serious.

Personally I wouldn't give a fuck though, I'm just there to see if I can get a good deal.

>>17457725
wasnt this a LPG post?

>>17460207
I'm sure you could be with plenty of aggression and hard work.

>>17460787
A fully loaded top of the line f-350 is pretty expensive, like $80k

>>17460787
>>17462869
f450 platinum 4x4 is just over 100k in canada

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>>17456783
I want to buy a new charger v8. How unreliable are they?

>>17461786
Probably, it's not uncommon to happen with small businesses

>>17457118
what about when i say i wont be using financing

>>17457438
as a soon to be ex wrangler owner i couldnt imagine getting another one after this. I think im going to go with the FiST

>>17463528
200 dollar non-refundable cash deposit to my wallet and you can do whatever you want for an hour.

>>17463577
>take out the cash
>while counting take a look at serial numbers and arragnement of bills
>hand it to you
once you put it in your wallet and go get keys to the most expensive boy racer car I find the most senior man in charge at the dealership

>>17463592
You know we split the take on that shit, right?

>>17463606
>go home and download the footage from my under cover spy pen camera
>send it to local news 12 NJ

>>17463618
I let the weather guy drive it for free.

>>17456281
>lean, dab and xanax cocktail
I'm getting sleepy just thinking about it

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>This idiot kid I work with buys a car from the dealership
>Kia """"""""""sportage""""""""""
>50k miles
>18.5k
>mfw

>>17456966
You should consider a different career, if you don't know who is a real buyer and who isn't after a brief conversation you are seriously in the wrong field.

How butthurt were Mercedes when they bribed Congress to pass that retarded anti-import law and why hasn't someone repealed it?

>>17456489
DON'T DO IT, get a job in a factory for $12-13 an hour instead.

>>17453156
off topic but who writes these poems? they're breddy gud.

>>17456799

The handles will inevitably fall off.

>>17456963
don't you just have a designated tester v-8? that way you can just let everyone crap up the same vehicle

>>17456963
>MFW this is the shit people put up with
No wonder car culture is dying and Teslas are taking over.

>>17466174
Car culture is dying cause we don't let boy racers fuck up the v8s?

>>17457254

>19% interest
Do people do this?

>>17454906
Cunt, don't compare us to ponsey Floridites
Even we don't have serious conversations with sunnies on

>>17466201
I would almost guarantee it, a lot of people especially uneducated, poor people, will do whatever it takes to get what they want never thinking about tomorrow

>>17463528
Don't do that. I would try and come to an agreement on a price first, if In fact you decide to purchase the vehicle. Dunno if it would work but perhaps showing them your credit score through credit karma as a showing of good faith. I imagine once they know you won't be financing they will be less likely to haggle on the price so avoid mentioning that until after you've agreed upon a price if you can help it.

I plan on buying a c7 or zl1 early 2019 probably. 15k down and my credit is excellent. It was over 800 but I bought a house a year ago. i should still get prime rates though. That said I don't intend on divulging my down payment or allowing them to run a credit check until I know for a fact I'm buying that vehicle. As much research as I've done I'm not going through any finalities til I test drive the damn thing.

>>17466292
Post finances to see if you really can afford it

>>17456920

Literally kill yourself. Fucking scumbag.

>>17466329
I can't afford it right now. That's why I said 2019. I have the dp and credit in order but I'm currently working part time and have 1 year of school left for my bs in financial management. Even if I start out on the low end of the scale for this field I should be able to afford it no problem. Mortgage payment utilities dtv etc are a bit over $1,500 but I split that with the wife.

>>17466183
>$40k car
>refuses to get out of his air-conditioned office or lot to make a sale, expects people to buy outright and find out about the shady shit you did to the car later.

I'm sure there's more than a few people you chased away from a sale due to your poor attitude. People won't hand over wads of cash just because they saw someone driving the car on top gear.

>>17466277

I wouldn't go over 1%. Looking at buying a car now and 0% is all I'm willing to do.

>>17466277
>especially uneducated, poor people, will do whatever it takes to get what they want never thinking about tomorrow
The actual process of making decisions is one every single person on the planet WRONGLY thinks he's good at.
And if somebody where to ask "how do you pick a car?" any person with a somewhat reasonable answer has already thought of it more in order to answer that question than they think about their own decision making process when they should.
A good salesman will use this lack of preparation to form a solid story why his car X is definitely the best option available to the buyer. Once this 'solution' becomes apparent to the buyer a deal is inevitable.
Because the deal is based on the buyers problem. Which the salesman has conveniently helped describe and magically fits the solution.

>>17466440
I suppose that may be true for most people. I'm a car guy though myself so I'm going in getting what I've already researched or nothing at all

Once was perusing a lot and guy asks the usual how can I help. I tell em I'm just perusing maybe looking for something different.. And he goes oh have you seen the new Hyundai Veloster!? I was only making small talk but holy shit a fuckin veloster gtfo of here lol

>>17457003
this definitely just happened to me. The guys are expecting me to come back in monday and buy a FiST

I own my own body shop.

Not long ago I started offering detailing, with many of my customers being local dealership owners who send in both brand new and used cars to get cleaned up for the lot. So I've dealt with loads of different dealers.
Now this isn't against the cars or the brands themselves, more or less what dealerships to avoid if you are buying a car.

>Dodge

Usually ran by fat, old, angry, divorcees. Most of their tactics are geared towards the "working man", baby boomers looking for a Challenger, or teenagers who buy big diesel pickups with their parent's money.

Usually have the worst experience with Dodge dealerships.

>Chevy/GM

Usually ran by middle aged men who swear up and down the Silverado and Sierra are God's gift to the world. Very picky over who test drives what. Theyre usually pretty chilled out and laid back. Most GM dealerships are extremely bureaucratic and take a while to do business with because of it. (Or it could be the dumbass, soccer mom, secretary that works at every fucking GM dealership).

I like doing business with them mainly because they're usually not operated by total assholes like most dealerships.

>Honda / Toyota

Honda and Toyota dealerships operate basically the aame

Both make me feel like I'm doing business with the Apple store,
Both seemed to be ran by nerdy, weird, types you wouldnt expect to know dick about cars (but they do), and both are geared towards customers looking for high mpg or the likes. You don't see either dealerships really pushing their sporty or performance stock.

Don't mind dealing with either but they both seemed to be ran by Jews. (Asking for a dealership discount, even though they already get a dealership discount.)


Will type more in a bit.

>>17457075
>quoting an entire comment

>>17466096
Ben Garrison.

>>17466567
And Ferd?

>>17466440
>A good salesman will use this lack of preparation to form a solid story why his car X is definitely the best option available to the buyer. Once this 'solution' becomes apparent to the buyer a deal is inevitable.
this is patently false. IF this was remotely the case new car sales wouldn't be in the shitter. Ancedotal experience:
I thought I wanted a WRX, went to look at Subaru and when he asked I just told the salesman I dunno everyone I've asked who has one loves it" test drove it, heard his speil why its such a better car than the others I'm looking at, left to see the others and never returned. Same thing happened for at VW. If I drive it and don't want to buy it immediately after then I'm going to check out the other one I think I want even if i don't have any type of resonable process of thinking that other than I like the way it looks and I like the specs.

>>17466096
Anonymous internet cartoonist from the 90s. Though Ben Garrison has come out as the original author.

>>17456963
>you should spend $80,000 wihtout testing the product.

>>17466567
what about ford, vw, hyundai, etc?

>>17466651
There's only a handful of ford dealerships in my region and many carry their own detailing crews, so I very seldomly do business with Ford dealerships. They're usually run by guys in their 50s who are chill and laid back, or younger douche bags who think they should be treated like kings.

Most business I do with Ford will be glass coating and spraying bed liners in newer trucks.

>>17466425
If we let people drive the cars, it lowers value

>>17468601
They all suck. GM truly makes the most reliable and fastest cars at an affordable price.

I wonder when automotive financing is going to crash. 8 year loans are getting really common. Some dealerships even offer 10 year loans.

>>17469799
GM will be fine. The best usually are

>>17461786
No, that was an old farmer-looking guy buying a muscle car with a bundle of cash, IIRC.

>>17453103
>Qüeen

>>17469799
Well unlike the housing bubble where their was wagering on defaults and money getting thrown into collateral-less assets this "car loan bubble" isn't anything like that.

>go to a dealership
>looking for a stick because automatics are boring
>talk with a salesman
>he looks at me like i'm crazy
>tells me only their high end sports cars have stick
>tells me i don't need a stick cause i will not be able to "hold my girls hand while driving"
>Uhhhhhh, what??
>lets me test drive a vw trip tronic
>don't like vw from having to work on them. Millions of electronic issues.
>go for the ride
>feels like poo in the loo
>tell him no thanks
>go to another dealership and find what i want. 2006 mustang v8 stick for 4g, 100k on the dash.
The first stick i bought was from a shop and the mechanic there taught me how to drive it in 30 mins. I like buying from shops rather than dealerships, but some of the dealership people are willing to work with you and help you find the ride you'll like in the price range.

>at work, working
>Guy comes in, recognizes me as his neighbor, and Miata driver
>Starts telling me he works at the Mazda dealership
>Tells me I should come test drive a new one
>This guy seriously coming to my wage slave job to sell me a car

Best part is I went to that dealer 6 months before trying to get a test drive in one, and they said they don't let anyone test drive the new Miatas, lol

>>17472557
>they don't let anyone test drive the new Miatas
It's all about credit score mah boi. I walked into a Dodge dealership last year wanting to test drive a Charger Hellcat and they said they didn't allow test drives on Hellcats. I told them I was interested in buying one so they said they would see what they could do, aka they went to do a quick credit check. He came back about 5 minutes later with the keyfob to the Charger and pulled it up front and we got a test drive. I have a 810 credit score.

>>17453036
I started out as a lube tech at a Ford dealer when I was 18, worked there for 2 years, got out of that field for a little bit then worked at a Honda dealer as a lube tech supervisor, detailer, plow driver, lot tech, maintenance guy and shuttle driver all at once for about 6 months. then spent another 3 years as an advisor at a different Ford dealer. I'm out of that field once again and hopefully for good this time but I've got a lot of stories. customers, techs, managers, salesmen, whatever you want.

>>17472659
if you're allowing them to do a credit check just to test drive a vehicle you're fucking retarded. but if you're just assuming that's what they did because you don't actually know, then you're most likely wrong but you're still fucking retarded.

>>17473016
tell us some.

>>17472659
How's your mid life crisis going?

>>17473023
>if you're allowing them to do a credit check just to test drive a vehicle you're fucking retarded
You have clearly never bought anything other than shitboxes lol.

>>17473023
I think you're fucking retarded.

>Buy new exhaust for my EP3 because the stock one was all rusty
>Ask a Honda dealer what they charge per hour
>$200 & 2 days
>Wut.jpg
>go to local mechanic
>gets it done in an hour and only charges me $35

Tl;dr Not all mechanics are asshole jews

These alleged salesmen defending no-test-drive policies floor me. I've bought a lot of new and used cars, only once did a dealer try to pull that shit. I walked out fast. Test drives are how you sell cars to people who give a shit about driving. It's not a fucking KitchenAid

>>17473731

Credit checks are bullshit. Here's the number to my bank, slick. Check the balance and get the fucking keys.

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I've got one for ya

>2007
>mom needs a new car
>decided she wants a range rover
>we go to the range rover dealership
>brings her checkbook because she's planning on buying it outright
>goes up to counter and rings bell
>asks to test drive
>they say no
>she goes across the street that day and cuts a check for a Tahoe LTZ
>salesman's face when I tell him what just happened

>>17475840
Like a boss.

>>17460501
Because the AmEx customer service is so legendary you can dispute even buying a car and they will withhold the funds from the dealer and take your side. this happens in my service department all the time. My dealership won't allow anything over 5k on plastic for this reason. One dealer here in my city got fucked out of 3 cars in a fleet deal over AmEx customer service.

>>17456738
Meanwhile at the VW dealership I can ask my buddy to test drive the Golf GTI and he tells the manager that I'm considering a Focus ST.

Needless to say, they were excited to see me.

>>17472557
I got a buddy who is brining a dealership Miata to my door for a test drive.

Trying to convince him to let me drive the RX-8 they have on the lot.

>go to Mitsubishi dealership with friend
>ask to test drive Lancer
>young salesman, most likely new
>test drive first around the block
>salesman asks me to pull over on the side so my friend can have his turn
>pull over too close to curb, proceed to curb rash rims that come with upgraded package
>oh shit.jpg
>friend test drives car while salesman quiet in the back frantically texting his manager
>get back to dealership, salesman asks if we want to go inside and talk finances
>ask for his card only
>his manager comes out, goes straight to the car looking like he's about to kill someone
>gives us a look of death as we pull out of the dealership

>>17475879
I get the feeling dealerships prevent more sales than they actually make. And they call this capitalism...

>suzuki dealership
>had booked in a test drive for 5pm
>get there 5pm
>boss has left and theres only this common salesman around.
>says theyre closing
>he wouldnt call his boss until i convinced him
>said he left a note on his desk or something
>guy still wont let me drive it
>360 and reverse out of there
never went back

>>17456966

>100$

Is a 40000$ car worth that much? Because if I take it out, it's coming back with a blown engine my dude.

>>17475879
The day of the rope will come for dealerships when you can buy a car online through amazon without hassle.

I'm surprised carmax hasn't capitalized on that yet.

>>17475879
>avoiding Range Rover
The gods were smiling on her that day.

One day I went to Kia dealer. They sell lots of used cars of all types. Again salesman comes out and greets me. Says let's go to my office. Then he takes me to lot. I have this 2008 Chevy ace he says. 6000 he's says. I said the sticker has 2800 as the price right on the window. He says oh sorry 3800. I left immediately.

>>17476734
>avoiding Range Rover for GM
its like avoiding HIV by getting AIDS

I don't have a personal story but my dad has experienced some shit since he is hispanic.
**Note: my father is a step down from a CEO and makes nearly 400k a year.**

>My parents need a car to replace the old Mercury Montego we had that was my first car and sort of the mule
>Dad already leases a Mercedes so though he would go ahead and buy either a mercedes or audi suv that we will keep for 7-10 years (till he retires)
>He and my mother go to the local Audi dealership because they have a 2012 Mercedes SUV for like 25k and if not he will just outright buy a brand new Q5.
>dude at dealership basically ZOOMs into the Merc because of my dads brown skin
>Proceeds to not take any hints when my dad's interest shifts to a Q5.
>Emphasizes the Q5 is nearly 35k more and probably not in his budget
>Dad ignores him and says he will give him 20k cash for the mercedes
>dude emphasizes how the benz only had one owner and he couldn't let it go for less than the asking price
>does this for an hour, apparently jabs the occasional remark questioning my parents financial status
>finally dad just says fuck it and gets up
>mentions he really wanted a Q5 as he was leaving and told the guy to call him if he wants to sell him a Q5.
>fast forward 2 days, guy never calls
>Dad goes to Ford dealership
>fully loaded explorer is what he says he wants, guy on lot has 2.
>no bullshit this time since my dad straight up said whatever happens here today will be outright cash
>Ford dude tells him to ignore the twin turbo version since it is 10k more, takes premium gas, and has zero features extra (same mpgs too)
>Dad loves the Ford (had one as a sales car a few years back)
>Buys it with cash and we drove it to detroit the next day.

I think the biggest mistake a dealership salesman can make is to judge people on race or appearance.

People like my dad make loads of cash but don't present themselves as such out side of work.
Doesn't mean he doesn't have the ability to drop 37 gran without blinking

>>17476713
You can actually do that already. https://www.carvana.com/

>>17477474
Basically nobody really gets the car they WANT from this system, they get the car they're willing to SETTLE for. Even if they have the money for the car they WANT.

You know what I would find amusing? Seeing what would happen if you took all the techs out of the service department and had them sell cars for 3 months and took all the salespeople off the showroom and had them fix cars for 3 months...

>>17478662
This has potential.

>>17478416
Yeah I mean especially when you consider people like my dad who doesn't want to be sold to.
He just wants to buy the car.

>>17478087
.01 cents have been deposited into your Shillco™ account

I've only gone to two dealerships and every time they run my credit they ignore whatever used car I came to look at and pushed me hard to buy a new one.

Took me 20 minutes to get the keys back to my beater the 2nd time and I haven't gone to a dealer since then.

Maybe when I'm in my 30's I'll have the courage to assert what I want at these places. Though I've heard most salesman get sketched out when younger guys want to test a stick FRS or Camaro.

>>17478862
Again it's that arrogance of "NO, we know which car you want better than you do and that's what we're going to sell you, that, and no other"

>>17478884
Yeah they looked at me and tried to push a Dodge Avenger on me for about an hour.

>>17478862
>Took me 20 minutes to get the keys back
They steal your keys? What the fuck? No dealership here does that, although one shut me in a car and then blocked the door to persuade me to lease it instead of financing a cheaper one.

The dealership I ended up buying from gave me a test drive on the first car I had my eye on, straight away, no checks or handing in of keys, even though I said I was just checking out cars to decide which one I wanted. Then apologised for not having had it cleaned yet.
When I went back, they'd sold the one I'd driven, but gave me a test drive on a slightly newer and slightly more expensive one. Without any hard-sell tactic.

>>17478916
It's a common tactic if you're going to be trading it in. They'll need the keys to "inspect" it. Best thing to do if you got the time, is to tell them no to trading it in and sell it on craigslist later. And keep the keys. Or change your mind about the trade in after you're serious you want the car they're selling you.

In fact, if you're going to trade it in, that's what I recommend - tell the showroom salesguy that you're not trading it in and wait until you meet the backroom guy who runs all the numbers, that you've changed your mind and you do want to trade it in. That way they can't play key hostage with you.

Do dealerships prefer when you take out a loan, or do they want you to pay cash?

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why do we need dealerships? why can't we just buy cars on amazon?

>>17479054
Oh loan, especially if it's dealer financed. Compound interest is very lucrative.

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>>17479055
They got laws passed long ago that basically give them a monopoly on selling cars. They're like the phone company. They don't care. They don't have to.

>>17479060
Follow up, do the loans have prepayment penalties? And would (most) dealerships be more willing to cut the price if you offered to take out a loan instead of paying cash?

Or is this too obvious lol, just take out loan for less money than you would have spent cash and immediately pay it off

>>17478916
A well-fed predator tends to be more docile than a hungry one...

>>17479081
You betcha! If you finance it through the dealer, they will get ALL the interest earned, up front before the principal starts getting paid off. Always finance with your bank or credit union when you can, only resort to dealer financing if you have no other choice.

>>17478916
>>17478936
lpg said dont even mention you have a trade in till you negotiate a price on the car you want
makes sense

>>17479123
They will ask you pretty early on if you're trading in that car you drove there in. It's not so much about not mentioning it as it is about telling them no.

There's a game of 20 questions he'll start playing with you. He'll want to find an excuse to steal your keys, he'll want to know how serious you are and he'll want to know how much money you make. And he can't come right out and ask those things, and that's where the 20 questions comes in. The competent ones, you'll only pick up on it after the 5th question or so, the really good ones you won't know until they're done asking.

>pops owns a used car lot
>had 1980 rx7 5 speed, black on black
>Puerto Rican guy stole it
>cops found the guy and the car stripped down to nothing.
>cops put it together to get it to the lot
>sold it to a guy as it was, all apart for 4 grand
>that was 12 years ago
>three weeks ago the guy who bought it contacted my dad looking for another one.
>he has five rx7s now

>>17479209
>he has five rx7s now
And none that runs right?

>>17466096
A. Wyatt Mann
Not even joking

>>17479089
That's interesting. I financed a car through a dealership a few years ago and they actually gave me a better rate than my bank. They gave me 0% APR and the best my bank could do was 1%. Maybe is was some sort of special?

>>17479440
The RX7 NA is solid as a rock. You can easily get over 200k miles if you take care of it. The RX8 Renesis is the peice of shit that needs a rebuild after 60k.

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>>17453970
I am a porter at an Infiniti dealership and do donuts in brand new Q60s at our off site lot every chance I get.

>>17479665
Huh. My guess is the carmaker is paying the interest to them, instead of you. They only do that when sales are slow. Can't beat 0%, I guess.

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>>17453103
...

This may be a stupid question but can you trade a car in to a dealership if it does not have an inspection sticker?

The car is registered but hasn't been driven in a while because I am getting rid of it, and the inspection sticker is expired.

>>17480149
Usually not a problem, but it's an excuse to jew you even more. NEVER trade a car in. They will alwys offer you 1/5th the real worth or worse.

>>17480186
I'm just exploring my options, I know they usually lowball you. I'm gonna list some ads for it on Craigslist and whatnot too, I just want to see if they'll offer me enough to make it worth just getting rid of it ASAP.

> parents try to trade in mom's PRISTINE Accord when they go to buy a Prius
> dealer offers $500 because "we can't sell that, nobody wants a manual any more, oh and the clutch is about to fail"
> they're not dumb enough to fall for it
> but they got spooked by that and sell it for $2000 on craigslist when it was worth $6000

That was two months before I got my license, and they refused to sell it to me. :(

> mom takes her Prius back to that dealership for maintenance
> "See this drop of coolant on the belt? The water pump is leaking. You need to pay $700 right now or you could ruin your engine."
> luckily she asks dad

Years later and there's still no coolant leak.

>>17480447
Was this recent?
Since more and more social media is coming out where you can check up on dealerships, it seems suicide to do this. My friends dad took his Honda to a dealership for an oil change and they overfilled the oil and left a fucking mess all over the engine compartment. They cleaned it up but he left a bad review for them on Yelp. Two days later the owner contacted him and gave him a free oil change on his next tune up as well as a free detail.

>>17468601
>how to tell someone has a body shop but couldn't do shit under the hood: the post

>>17479055
we don't need them at all. our lives would be so much simpler if brands were allowed to sell their own cars (tesla is in hot shit for the ""showrooms"" it tries to pop up)

>>17479054
dealers hate cash. they work with your bank to fuck you over good because you can't math

>>17480186
Yeah, agreed. I'd be a little less pejorative and say that time is money. You'll make more money selling it yourself, but it will take more time too. And you'll have to deal with all the lookie loos that someone else would have to deal with. Which will waste your time. Time or money, your choice.

>>17480803
I think back in the bad old days when all your had was telephone and snail mail, they made more sense, but in this era, they absolutely are an anachronism from the 20th century. And I can completely understand why Musk wants to bypass them to sell direct to the public.

>>17480653

The stories were about 8 and 4 years ago, and I guess that once they decided my parents were suckers they figured they wouldn't leave bad reviews either.

>>17456726
>selfless
spineless more like

I don't care if they're family or really need you or both
you can't work somewhere for a full year without pay, not to mention that's insanely illegal
one call to your local employment bureau and you could bend your employer over the barrel and raw dog them for as long as you please

fuck, I wouldn't have stuck around for even two months

>>17480653
I had a dealer call my house and tell my mom I was a terrorist for leaving a bad review

Will this thread die already. It's literally Ford fangirls mad about GM

>tfw living the stank lyfe sitting in the warehouse doing jack shit
>independent and still able to afford projects
>about to buy a trailer home because fuck it, let's be white trash for a while
I'll make a lot more money once I get to the parts desk but fuck it, this shit is comfy.
>>17453970
Anybody who actually puts their name on the shit they order is 10/10 in my book, boss.

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>wife's car almost out of warranty
>predict problems coming, convince her to sell it and get something else
>go to a GM dealer
>interested in the SS but we want to see how much we can get for the old car as a trade in
>don't care about test driving before looking at numbers, give us your best price out the door
>5 minutes later guy comes with a price and asks for the keys
>give them the keys and prepare to wait

while waiting for the appraisal, do you want to test drive it?
>V8, stick shift
ok

>drive it around, come back, look at the numbers
>tell him we'll try to get (about 3k) more selling it privately
>sure anon, give us a call when you're ready to buy

less than 30 minutes spent in there, got all the info I wanted
fuck yeah, will most likely go back there after selling the car

>>17482186
I wish I had more customers like you, though I wouldn't let you test drive a new v8. Must of been used

>>17480805
So much this. Part of me is excited to be nearing a time when I can afford to purchase a new car, yet I'm also painfully aware of how potentially awful the experience might be. Knowing I'm going to have to lie in order not to get screwed.

If I say I won't be making a down payment or that it will be only a couple grand then I'm more likely to get a reasonable deal overall I would think. Assuming they commit to a price before I actually mention that I'm actually gonna put more than 10 grand down.

On the other hand if I tell them right off the bat my plans they now know they have less opportunity to make money on the financing and as such probably won't work with me the same on the price.

If I say I'd rather not discuss a down payment amount at all until we come to an agreement it's safe to assume they will know I plan on making a hefty dp. Like how does one not get fucked in this scenario. Ugh.

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>>17453036
>Be looking for First car
>Find a nice mazda 3
>Parents tell me that i should keep looking around
>Get draged to stealership
>Parents see BASE LEVEL AUTO CIVIC with low KMs
>Parents are pretty much pushing me to buy civic

Being a loser and doing a fuck ton of reserch on cars, find out that early 2000's hondas have the worst automatic transmission ever

>Go back to dealership next day for tedt drive, after a night of arguing with my parents about the shit box civic
>Take Civic on testdrive
>I fucking hate this car
>Salesman tries to sell civic at $8000, $9000 after fees
>Nope.jpg
>Call Old guy who owns the Mazda 3
>Buy Mazda 3 and get $750 off of his asking

Mfw

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>>17482201
it was new (10 miles or so)
I went there knowing way more about the car than the salesman
I went there being 90% convinced they can't offer what I wanted for the old one
I just wanted to make sure about that, to show the car to my wife and get an out the door price

Later that day we went to another dealership (to look at another make/model) and the sales tactic was irritating
I start the conversation just like at the first dealership

>here's my old car, what's the most you can offer me?
>what's the lowest out the door for this particular make and model?
>I don't care about test driving (I had test drove that car before)

but anon, you can't get more for your car than our offer
but anon, why don't you consider this other model?
but anon, we're losing money if we sell you this car at this price, we do this just to draw business to the repair shop

FUCK OFF!

>>17482221
Keep in mind, the dealer might try to show you an invoice and tell you they won't make money on the deal or are losing money. They get dealer holdbacks so they are lying to you. I had a dealer show me the invoice and tell me he was losing a grand I'm the deal. I laughed and he got offended. He tried telling me he should keep my down payment (I had the car ordered) so I called up American express who did a charge back lol always use credit when they ask for money to order or hold something. Cash means you need to sue if they feel they should keep the money