Volvo appreciation thread

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Been thinking about picking up a second gen V70R and was wondering how good or bad they are as far as maintenance, reliability, repair costs, etc goes. There's only ever a couple for sale on CL at a time, and they usually have 150k+ miles on them. Is that anything to worry about?

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One day I'll have my 850.

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What's the best year for a 245? I drove one with a manual and I really liked it.

>>17446832
Buying ANY car with 150,000 miles should be something to worry about anon

>>17447252
It doesn't really matter, the 240 didn't change much at all in the 30 years they were made.
>>17446832
not a real volvo
>>17447241
FWD

>>17447252
Ignore the tripfag. You want to avoid the ones manufactured from 1978 to 1985, as the wiring harnesses are made with a biodegradable insulation.

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>>17447311
>Ignore the tripfag.

I don't like him either, but he has a point; Volvo died when they fell for the FWD meme, turning their simple, easy to repair, and effectively immortal cars into discount MBs to appease soccer moms.

>>17447380
Oh I stopped reading when the fucking furfag who can't drive said the 240 didn't change much. And they were discount MBs more in the RWD days. Today they're like Swedish Audis with 4-bangers.

>>17447407
>I stopped reading when the fucking furfag who can't drive said the 240 didn't change much
They didn't. there's only one 240 haynes manual that covers the entire 30 year run, very little changed at all.
The older ones have nicer tail lights and hoods as well, and the deck lids are flat instead of arched which also looks much better.

>>17447275
740 then, you fucking faggot. Or an awd 850 or one of each. Kill yourself.

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>>17447421
>740
faggot
S90 or bust
>>17447420
Did you even read my post? The ones made from 1978 to 1985 have wiring harnesses that rot away and get eaten by mice because they're made of fucking soybeans. Pic related. If you're gonna buy a Volvo from those years make sure the harness has been replaced, same with Mercedes-Benz from 1992 to 1996.

>>17447434
>Kill yourself.
this I can get behind
mrcummy just drive off a cliff already

>>17447311
they were made up to 86 actually, a lot the harnesses were replaced under warranty. 87 plus if you ask me, you get a real 5 speed without push button overdrive.

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>>17447473
>you get a real 5 speed without push button overdrive
Isn't the push button overdrive part of the fun?

Ugh.
Assholes.

For what year 240, 88 on are the best if you want to keep it going with junkyard parts.
Too much earlier they rust worst, you really want the Bosch 2.1 or 2,4 jetronic ignition. Wiring on the like pre 86 or so cars is a pain in the dick.

The 91 to 93 manual wagons are 3.1 and not compatible with all the others.

Blower motor is the only thing that's a huge pain on em.

>>17447560
>blower motor
wew lad
so my Mad Max post above was even more relevant?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxhwiAASMH8

>>17447515

They fail a lot is the only unfun part.

If you're going manual, m71 is definitely the only option worth considering.

>>17447275
please end your life

>>17447579
For the HVAC friend.

>>17447609
I know, I was just memeing.
>>17447592
oh, that sucks
also I looked up m71 and found nothing

>>17446832
don't get a second gen v70. ever. they're shit.
the gearbox is shit.
the electronic throttle is shit.
the steering feels shit and unresponsive.
they're ugly compared to a first gen.
get an 850 R or a first gen v70 R AWD if you're gonna get an R model. just stay clear of the second gen.

>notice a newer volvo coupe parked outside work yesterday
>not sure on the model and year but it's new
>even with all the "aggressive" styling, it still looks like an old person car
They just can't get it right.

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>>17447311
Not only this but these years also had kjet mechanical fuel injection. While it's pretty reliable, parts for it can be expensive and it will take some research before you attempt to fix anything yourself if something goes wrong. Later models all had the usual electronic fuel injection and an overall updated engine. 78-86 b21 engine, 86-93 b23 engine.

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>>17446808
yay volvo, good job with the car with no hood and made to be almost impossible to service yourself

>>17448189
Thanks anon, I didn't know about anything else than the wiring. Mrcummy should really off himself. And the anon saying they didn't change should reconsider his attitude of meddling with things he doesn't understand.

>>17448189
that image reminds me, turbos and 262s have the pre-78 style harness that doesn't die

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>>17448207
Yea, they changed very little mostly small cosmetic stuff coming into the 80s also, but the big updates came around the mid 80s where they updated the engine. Ill tell you straight up, any year will do just fine as long as you dont buy a shit heap. Invest a bit and get a really nice one that someone has taken good care of, that's the best thing you can do. KJet may seem bad at first but its actually really simple and usually doesnt break. Out of the 3 240s I've owned, all had Kjet and not one had any issue with it beyond replacing some vacuum lines. Turbos are pretty good also if you can find one.

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>>17448236
This is true, I would advise against getting a 262 though (if you can even find a good one) they had the v6 that was made by renault and was not even close to the redblock in terms of reliability and even performance when up against a turbo redblock. Also pretty sure all 262s were auto which is pretty abysmal.

>>17448287
they're fucking sexy though
>>17448236
yeah? I thought the bullshit spanned across the range

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My 240 loves abuse.

Sorry for the quality. Potato phone from far away.

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>>17448292
2.3 turbo block swaps right in.

>>17448207
Stay mad that I'm right
>>17448268
>Ill tell you straight up, any year will do just fine as long as you dont buy a shit heap.
So exactly what I've been saying, just worded differently.
Nice.

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>>17446808
I'm loving my 2010 s80 v8

>>17448443
>that I'm right
see >>17447435 you hopeless degenerate cuck
kys

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>>17448509
lol I'll buy that one with a damaged wiring harness and fix it because I'm not a fucking helpless cuck, get the fuck off this board and get in the garage you loser.
If you let that wiring harness hold you back you can't handle an old car anyways, go lease something new.

Delivered a brand new V90 to a colleague the other day. Nice all around, but it exists in that weird sphere of upscale middle class cars that try to be luxurious and sporty at the same time. I didn't feel like I was in a luxury barge.

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>>17448443
>So exactly what I've been saying, just worded differently.
Sort of, basically major changes to the engine and wiring happened in 86, the haynes manual should have all the information for both engines. But yea regarding everything else only the front face really changed.

>>17448531
>hurr durr you can fix it
Why not get something not prone to breaking in the first place? Faggot.
Enjoy your expensive harnesses rebuilt by third parties, furfag.

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>>17448287
nope, you could get a m70 in a 262c

>>17448549
wow that looks badass with the projectors and the selective yellow lights

>>17448559
>those seats
hnnngggg max comfy
Renault 25 tier

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>>17448554
>implying I even have a single original wire in my Volvo 240
Lol the entire engine is all Chevy wires and the inside is my custom wiring harness.
Go ahead and avoid them, I'll buy them all up and LS swap them and flip them.

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>>17448559
Right, I remember now, they did but it's rare (in burgerland anyway). They offered the manual as an option but only for 2 years of its run. I forgot how good they look inside also, you could get lost in those seats.

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>>17448583
>LS swap them

>Have 1990 Volvo 244 DL.
>Do trans swap, as old AW70 lost 3rd gear.
>New 250,000 mile junkyard AW70 has no overdrive.

ffs


>Install new Delphi MAF.
>Works fine for 700 miles.
>Get MAF faulty CEL the other day.
>Car acts like engine is going to die at higher speeds

wat the FUCK

God, please execute all tripfags

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>>17448583
enjoy your oil leaks, mrcuck

>>17448780
LS doesn't leak oil, old sbc hell yeah, LS, nah.

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>>17448785
>t. gm shill
They can call it the LS, but it's still the ol' leaky chevy small block

>>17448795
>coolant leak
???
Probably the radiator

>>17448795
>gm quality

>>17448800
>coolant
http://www.corvette7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364560
>under 500 miles
>already leaking oil
top kek

>>17448800
Actually, just looked at the pic, you can see that it's dripping from the radiator and rolling forward under the car

>>17448809
it's OIL
read the link

>>17448809
Have you learned better car control since you spun?

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>>17448801
>>17448795
>Thread about volvo
>still manages to devolve into GM shitposting
>/o/

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>>17448809
>damage control

>>17448829
blame the dog fucker tripfag ruining volvos with LS engines

>>17448820
There is nothing wrong with replacing quarts of oil each drive.

>>17448825
Every day you learn something breh

>>17448949
But what about YOU? Brainless fuck

>>17448949
just drive off a cliff already niggerfaggot

>>17448966
Stay mad
>>17448968
You furst

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>Daily Reminder

This happened in a Volvo.

>>17448981
probably with one of his shitty GM swaps

>>17448995
It was stock other than the Ford 8.8 axle in the rear

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>>17448981
>>17449005
>Spun out a car at 20mph

>>17448981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWtKSNgPnIA

>>17449005
>it was stock other than my ford swap
ahahahahahahaahah

>>17449019
Axle swap?
That makes literally no difference to the cars handling, just increases power handling in preparation for the LS.

>>17447678
>old person car
Honestly, that's one if the endearing things about Volvos. They have such unassuming and practical styling

>>17448981
Look at that squiggly little cuck. I bet his bones would break easy.

>>17449028
>putting a solid axle doesn't impact the handling
top kek

>>17449037
>240
>having IRS

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>>17449037
The car came with a fucking dana 30, it's a solid axle stock you tard

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>>17449039
>>17449047

>>17449062
>I was just pretending to be retarded guys

>>17448795
>>17448805
lol@the ponytail LS fangirl faggot defending this
I wonder if he'll pull a frosty and get hormone replacement and start pretending he's a woman

>>17449084
beats than be a retard IRL like you, I get the lulz and I don't get the stupidity

>>17449085
>Frosty
>sex change

A-am I being rused? I guess drugs, extreme cold and years of anal rape in jail change a guy

>>17449085
sup alphonse

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>>17449103
you aren't, he appeared in /pol/
>>17449105
wrong, I'm just a feral anon

>>17449113
>wrong, I'm just a feral anon
Get a trip, that way you can't run and hide when you make a retarded post like >>17449037
Trips are truly the strongest people on /o/, they can't simply run away after being called out on being wrong, they have to either debate or lose.
Anons are all weak.

>>17448472
Lovely. I really want one with the v8 as well. How's the maintenance been?

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>>17449123
The only thing a tripcode does is cause the user to start sperging with knee-jerk damage control and shitposting.
I can could on one hand the amount of times a tripfag has apologized and agreed they were wrong in the last month.

It's just a pathetic way of convincing ones-self that they're important and above others, as you've so eloquently put it.

Sure, an anon may have nothing to lose, but there's nothing better than calling out a tripfag and watching him squirm.

>>17449123
I understand what you mean but then people just instantly think dogfucker when they see your name. Or in alphonse's case a gay nigger.

>>17449123
>>>/reddit/
tripfags will hang in the day of the rope

>>17449133
Didn't even read it
>>17449134
>but then people just instantly think dogfucker when they see your name
Uhh yeah, that's the fucking point

>>17449123
Hi there!

You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!

Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bit to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!

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>>17449141
>Debate or lose
Hey, when you're right, you're right.

>>17449147
stay mad, stay fwd nu-volvo
>>17449150
It's not always apparent who wins when dealing with 4chan shitposters, logical fallacies are everywhere.

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>>17449155
Lol it's 4chan man, you're either wasting your time having fun with shitposting or you're doing something else.

Assuming you're the faggot that did some painting on his blue miat, I've done got myself a gun, compressor and ghost pearls for my hardtop. Never painted plastic before, any tips?
If you're not no worries, I can never keep track.

>>17449159
Yeah that's me, pearls/metallic are kinda a pain in the ass to get right, you gotta be super consistent with the thinning, the distance, the travel speed, the air pressure, everything man, you gotta be super consistent, any variations make the shit look different in different areas or different coats.
I guess in general just keep your speed and distance even and keep a good overlap, do a crosshatch also maybe to make sure you don't get any striping going, make a coat in one direction like west east then make another north to south you know, that way it's evenly coated even if you didn't overlap perfectly.

>>17449155
>fwd nu-volvo
>projecting

>>17449174
?
The only volvo I own is a 244

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>>17449172
Gotcha.
I'll be doing a bunch of test paints on various random shit noone will notice missing - just slightly apprehensive in repainting my 10th anniversary hardtop.

It'll be ghost red on gloss black, so hopefully with incident angles being super narrow it wont be too obvious if I fuck up.
I grabbed some pink holo and black holo flake but IMO it's just too gaudy on a champion red car.

>>17449185
Yeah dude, do test pieces for sure to make sure everything will work correctly and be how you want, definitely.
You got all the prep shit down like priming or you just gonna scuff the stock up and run it?
Also, when doing a metallic you might wanna finish with a higher grit, solid colors 320 is fine but metallic you should finish it off with like 600 before you spray any metallic or the particles will stand up in the coarse scratches and you can see that shit lol.
Always read the tech sheets to get recoat windows, mix ratios, pot times etc etc, follow the tech sheets.
Also use a good respirator and be careful with that stuff. real paintis fucking dangerous, it's not like spray can where you can just bomb a part, it's really bad for you.

>>17449191
Also make sure you COMPLETELY clean your gun every time after using it or switching products up, that involves taking the atomizer off and useing a hex key to take the entire front if it apart, I like to use brake part cleaner to blast it out along with the bottle brush, you gotta make sure the thing is totally clean before you switch product or put it up for storage.
If it's fucked up and the spray pattern is screwed and you got a short pot life you're gonna hate life trying to fix that in time to make everything work.

>>17449191
My main concern is pearl through a gravity fed 1.4mm tip, Sagola ain't no Devilbiss but it's still a few bucks.
The factory paint was pretty rubbish, as they are, so I'm not yet versed on what to lay down to get the surface flat for priming since it's plastic. Really hard to find info on spraying a hard top properly, thickness of plastic etc. I used to be a steel/ally polisher by trade, plastic is a whole new area for me - it bunches up in sandpaper and bogs wheels AFAIK.
Tech sheets seem to be reiterated in every single video, so I'm in no rush to hurry it along.
Definitely getting respiration, did a few months fiberglassing hulls in my youth. I've got a 500w extractor fan, some thick PVC and an old gazebo. It'll look like a professional setup lol.

>>17449201
>so I'm not yet versed on what to lay down to get the surface flat for priming since it's plastic
I'd say just rough the stock paint up with 320 and put a couple coats of urethane high build primer down, block it and lay paint over that.
If you don't hit fiberglass you have nothing to worry about, it'll be like painting anything else.
Long as you don't sand through the stock paint you're set.
Glad you're good on safety, it's really important with this 2k paint, it's super nasty shit, I don't even crack open a paint can without a face mask on.
Also I wouldn't worry too much about being all mega clean room, just don't kick up dust or dirt into the air before painting, maybe wet the floor and area down around before you spray.
Even if a bit of dirt or a bug lands on it don't freak out, just let the paint dry and you can fix it with a wet sand and buff.
Lay on some good thicc clear and wet sand with 1200 grit, buff with meguiars 105 then 205 and it will literally be a fucking mirror, it will be show car tier.
Remember that wet sanding and buffing is a lot of work tho, if it turns out nice with little orange peel and no shit in it, don't be afraid to just rock that, but if you wet sand and buff it'll take it to the next level.
Just don't sand or buff through the clear or you will absolutely hate yourself.
Edges are dangerous.

>>17449198
Ah - that's something I've completely ignored, purging/cleaning.

I would rather not have shiny cement in my gun, appreciate that note. I assume flushing with thinner isn't good enough?

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>>17449213
Flushing def isn't good enough, you gotta take the front of the gun totally apart and spray/brush it out totally clean.

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>>17449217
Goddamnit.

Any closer than this and you see the waves, crazing and 1 grit wheel marks the painter gave the previous owner.

>>17449222
looks better than 99% of miatas on the road lol, trips as well

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>>17449227
They're a fun car, I take care of it most of the time.
Until AC compressors break loose, bend the crank nose and spew coolant into the bellhouse etc.

Like I said, from a distance lol. I'm out, thanks for the tips.

>>17449227
Also btw, that garnish surface looks hot.

>>17449233
Miatas are magic, I tell everybody that, it's fucking true though, there really isn't a more fun car for the money.
Also what the actual fuck lol, fucking miatas cranks, mine had the pulley wobble which fucked the keyway up, I just put the key in place with jb weld and slapped the pulley on, probably never coming off again.
If you need help with anything you know where I'll be, finna go get some mcdoubles right now and I can't phone post anyways thanks to alphonse getting t mobile rangebanned, peace.

>>17449241
That's the problem - I initially repaired the nose with loctite 660 so the keyway was stronger than the entire pulley nose that was bent so hard the runout was 3.9mm and oil leaked from the seal.

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Respeck your elders

>>17447275
>giving a fuck about where the wheels put down the 300hp of an 850R
toplel

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>>17449250
I gotta fix the exhaust lol

>>17449241
I'm still pissed because I could have bought a NA cash in hand before they shot up in price. Instead i financed a car.

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I just wanna go on a V/o/lv/o/ thread one time without Mccrummy trying to shit the bed talking about LS swaps or the best way to drive off a bridge.


You're a Chevy guy. Please stay with your own kind

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>>17449479
I have 7 cars and none of them are GM tho

>>17449485
we waifupostin now?

>>17446832
I just got one and I love it. Don't listen to the busriders anon, go drive one and make sure it has maintenance records.

>>17449124
Just got it. it's in the shop right now. Needed valve cover gaskets and had a brake vibration.

>>17448583
>flip them
I thought you spin them

>>17448805
>some shitty shop hand overfilled the oil

well of course, its obviously the car's fault and not human error.

>>17447435

this guy gets it. Harness isnt hard to replace but is very time consuming and will cost you your first born at the stealership

>>17449177
>deflecting his projection
You secretly wish to have a fwd nu-volvo so you project that desire on people you don't like

>>17449241
>I can't phone post anyways thanks to alphonse getting t mobile rangebanned
never thought I'd say this but THANK YOU BASED ALPHONSE

>>17449250
>>17449253
I love those, some of the best Volvo fronts ever
dat red exhaust tho, what's that pipe from? looks stupid in a good way, as in a mad max way

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>>17449541
SAVAGE

>>17449919
>shitty shop hand
you mean shitty GM specs?
>>17450153
exactly, and if you're gonna do it yourself you need the space to do it. It's easy if you have a big garage and somewhere to lift the car but otherwise it's a pain in the ass.

>>17450950
>I wish I had a fwd Volvo
What.
>>17450970
Alphonse still posts though, he's much more damaging of a poster than me.

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>>17449541
lol dogfucker btfo

>>17451008
>Alphonse still posts though, he's much more damaging of a poster than me.
>it's okay that I shit the site because other guys are even worse
Fuck off tripfag

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>>17451048
the guy is seriously obsessed with me lol. he literally mentions me in every thread. Literally a complete autist. I would call him a virgin but he rapes dogs so he can't be one.

>>17451060
You need to fuck off too, fucking furfag nigger

>>17451060
>>17451074
that said thanks for preventing the dogfucker from phoneposting

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>>17450975
It's a Thrush glasspack muffler lol. Previous owner chopped the old muffler off as it was rotten, so when I bought the car just over a year ago I put the glasspack on as a stopgap until I could get a proper exhaust installed. But it works just fine, despite looking kind of silly, so I just left it while I focused on things that needed more immediate attention.

>>17449541
LOL

>>17451135
wow that surely looks comfy inside
love the 4 on the floor instead of a center console
that thing also reminds me of ole' mercs with the ring in the steering wheel
first time I see the interior of one of those

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>>17449253
>that spurdo spärde in the rear windshield

>>17451226
The seats a ridiculously comfy, they even have adjustable lumbar support. The later years had a center console with a short gear shifter on the floor, but I love the early models with the yardstick shifter. Feels like driving a truck lol

>>17451323
lol
isn't a short stick on the floor harder to reach?

>>17451323
>>17451332
oh i looked it up, it has a shitty center console

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I want to get a Volvo so that I could possibly turn it into a godmachine. I don't know much about them, however. I was thinking about getting a 900 series, since they are the last of the Correct (Rear) Wheel Drive ones. However, were they sold in manual in clapistan, or since this is god damned 'murrica, only autotragics exist? Should I get the 4 or 6 cylinder version?

If not 900 series, what should I get instead?

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>>17452429
There are manuals, but you'll need to find a turbo to make it a godmachine. Turbo 740s are a bit easier to find and a very much the same, just a bit less uggo.

>>17452773
>very much the same
top lel
Facelift 960s have rear multilink suspension

how to modern volvos stack up? are they all chinkshit that'll blow once it hits 60k miles?

>>17452937
nope, they're still Swedish stronk machines
the chinks don't meddle much with them, seems like they learned from GM/SAAB

>>17453019
>saab
don't bring back those feels anon

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>>17453032
Make me.
>born from jets

>>17453050
>ABS lights on
man, i remember that happening alot on my old 9'5 linear. the car itself was unrealiable but it wa smy first so i still miss it.

>>17453062
It's probably just testing on the on position without starting lel. The pic isn't mine btw, I'm a nocar faggot and stole it from a forum.

>>17447560
blower motor isnt that bad if you just cut an access hole on the passenger side

>>17452917
>Facelift 960s have rear multilink suspension
Probably to control the extra 300 pounds they have over the 740.

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>>17447592
>tfw M45 with no overdrive

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Can I join?

>>17453450
more like to provide a better ride

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>>17453474
I know this feel. At least the m46 bolts right up, all you needs the drive shaft piece.

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>>17453576
Aw shit, you're the guy with the 242 from the Washington meet up threads. One of these days I'll make it up there...

But I fucked something up the other day (had to choose between an old woman driving straight into my car or taking my car over the curb, I chose the curb), now my passenger side rear wheel squeaks really loudly every time it turns under a certain speed. Gonna take a look underneath tomorrow, hopefully whatever's broken isn't hard to fix...

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>>17449541

>>17453474
I have a 93 240 with the M45 and I'm about to part ways with the car unfortunately. Engine and trans are still rock solid after 250k miles, but have just had a lot of other little things go wrong

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>>17453602
Probably wheel bearing I would think. But yea I had some stuff go on and wasn't able to make the meets. Hopefully I can stop by for this next one but who knows. I was actually down in portland a few weeks for the ipd meetup. Was pretty good man.