Euro car prices

>inb4:
>muh healthcare
>muh social contract
>muh safety nets
>muh weed

>>17394118
That's holland for you. Taxes on everything.
Meanwhile, I saw a car for sale the other day for £300. You can't even get a non-running car for that in America.

Dont worry, in 15 years they will be majority Islamic and will be blown away from history

They have better trannies though, don't they?

Tfw cheapest used car market in the world in the UK

good condition cars for 500£

>>17394456
Now insure it.

>>17394465
Another 500 for a year

>>17394118
>There isn't a "Dutch bicycle culture", these poor saps just can't afford cars.

No, the reason they have a bicycle culture is because the country is tiny as dickshit, flatter then a 11 year old girl, most people work in the town they live in and public transport is amazing at connecting everything to anything. There's supermarket's and bakery's everywhere.

Also Bike-friendly infrastructure, cycling path's everywhere combined with bike-friendly public policy, planning and laws means biking is safe and fast, therefore people get on a bike when they are young, which means they are great bikers by the time they can drive a car if they want to which leads to less drivers since they already have their bike and drivers who are more considerate to bikers.


There's hardly a need for a car.

>>17394393
I routinely buy running and driving cars from free to $500.

Subaru BRZ is 48000$ here in Finland.

>>17394465
Not him but i ran a bunch of vaguely interesting cars through an insurance comparison recently
>cayman S: £650
>S2000: £680
>monaro 5.7: £750
>E90 M3: £1000
Makes me wonder why I bother paying £650 to insure my MX-5 when i could get something more interesting

This is the the truth. After paying my cuck-tax and spending a bloody fortune on petrol driving my wife to Muhammad's flat, I do not have enough money to buy a good car. At least I have taxpayer-funded healthcare to treat the syphilis I contract from my wife (via Muhammad)!

>>17394393
>You can't even get a non-running car for that in America.

http://www.carsunder500.net/car-listings.php

idiot

>>17394456
http://www.carsunder500.net/car-listings.php

Europeans just can't stop losing, can they?

>>17394469
>There's hardly a need for a car.
>government brainwashing

That's what they keep telling themselves.

>>17394534
Britbongs aren't considered european anymore, they have literally no bound to it whatsoever

Wew lads 16 replies and no one mentioned a mustang GT is 120k+ in Netherlandistan?

>>17394555
https://www.nederlandmobiel.nl/tweedehands-auto/ford/mustang-convertible-gt-50-v8-6-bak/5148285

>Ford MUSTANG Convertible GT 5.0 V8
>Prijs: € 130.530

kill me now senpai

>>17394614
that's like $150,000 btw

>>17394118
Exact same spec Camaro, but one year older, in the Netherlands is 110,000 Euros or $125,000

http://www.ooyyo.com/netherlands/c=CDA31D7114D2854F111BFA6FBA4D355B5DA31D6617CB874111/918243800802506567.html/

>>17394629
>>17394620
>>17394614
>American muscle cars cost more than BMW M cars in europoor
that explains a lot

>>17394539
Free data roaming in the EU m8
Also my EHIC card is still valid

>>17394488
$25000 of that is to pay for your medical expenses when some gopnik with no insurance blows through a stop light in his 80s bmw and totals your car

>>17394118
That's because a Golf isn't a cheap car anymore in NL, it's acquired a status with everyone who was a boyracer in the 90's, thus the people who now make decent money.
Seats are considered sportier versions of VWs and are expensive too.
If you want a VAG then you should go to Skoda, you'll get a stationwagon Fabia with nearly every option for the price of a stock VW Polo hatch.
But nobody buys a brand new car, only company leased cars are new. Get an occasion, the average car here is over 10 years old.

Yeah driving a car here is FUCKED. The loophole was to ride a motorcycle but the government quickly caught up to also meme us out of existence.

>>17394788
Only loophole left is get a van/truck that fits EU pallets and can run on LPG.
Alternatively, you can get a 25 year gasoline car and have reduced taxes or get a 45 year old car and pay no taxes.

>>17394812
I saw a goddamn datsun 280z today on the road. Nearly came in my pants. Why dont classics have to pay taxes anyway?

>>17394118
Only a comnplete retard would buy a diesel in the netherlands.

>>17394830
Exemption to prevent classics from being exported/salvaged because their fuel consumption and emission tax would make them unaffordable.
Most people wouldn't dd them, so their effect on total emissions would be minimal anyway. At least they appreciate classic car culture.
It used to be more forgiving a few years ago, any car that was 25 years old would have to pay no taxes. But that law was from when a 25y old would be an absolute shitty rustbucket.
LPG cars have low fuel per litre costs, but that's offset by high taxes. A 25y old lpg car would be practically free to drive back then.

>>17394765
>>17394788
>>17394812
This is what the left wants the US to be like.

>>17394864
This, just get gasoline or lpg depending on how many km you're going to drive.
Ignore all diesels, those are cheap when you live in Germany

>>17394942
Remind the left that mandatory health care insurance in NL was introduced by Hitler.
Before that we were pretty right-wing, we sold coke to both UK and Germany in WW1 and nobody gave a shit about them drugging their soldiers or that we enslaved Indonesia to produce said coke.

>>17394950
yea just get a Mustang, it's fairly affordable

https://www.nederlandmobiel.nl/tweedehands-auto/ford/mustang-convertible-gt-50-v8-6-bak/5148285

>>17394538
being this brainwashed in favor of having to own a car, go live in boston NYC or DC

And i tought italy was bad .. The prices are fine , but the tax on owning the car is insane , for my bmw 130i with 265 hp i pay 700 euros every year , plus i would have to pay another 120 euro cause i have more than 250hp . Now since the car is 10 yrs old i have reduction othrrwhise it s 20 euro for each HP above 250 . So for a civic type r i think around 1500 euro overall , meanwhile the fagggot with a panamera diesel pays less .

>>17394393
I can find running cars for less than 200$ daily for the rest of my life.
How fucking retarded are you?

>>17395558
...a ton of people own cars in all those cities
or they live just outside the city and commute

>>17394129
But in Canada we get car and all the yuropoor socialist crap.

>>17394393
Would that £300 car pass your cucked as fuck emissions and safety inspections? I don't fucking think so, That's why their so cheap. Somebody should post that story of the guy who would up getting his car crushed for installing the wrong horn button. I've heard of cars failing inspections from a tiny rust spot in Europe.

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>>17396161
>be chummy with local mechanic
>total shitbox passes every inspection

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>>17394469
>bikes in holland are like guns in the US
o i get it

>>17396241
>get caught by the bobbies or whatfuckingever
>car gets crushed
>insurance goes from $15k a year to $25k a year
>forced to ride the bus for the rest of your life

Yeah, Real free.

>>17396358
>car gets crushed
He's not an American with a skyline or range Rover

>>17394733
Canada has public health insurance and we don't pay anything like that for a BRZ

>>17396161
Yes, you can get a banged up, but working 90's volvo for €700. Getting a small shitbox is easy for €300 and if a car was sold here, it will always be allowed in it's stock configuration as long as it runs well.

>>17394469
This, getting around within a city during rush hour is faster on a bicycle.
If I want to get to the city centre, it takes 15 min by bike, 30 min by bus, 10 min in a car normally and 20 min during rush hour.
Around 3:15 should also be considered rush hour in cities here since at that time you have moms al over the place trying to get their kid from school as fast as possible (all casualities accepted it seems)

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>>17394492
when i used to live in London i tried insuring a 1999 BMW 328 coupe
The cheapest insurance quote I got was around £15.000 gbp per year - 18 years old, no accidents
15k for a car I bought for fucking £580.
Moved out of the UK, now paying roughly 240£ per year for my 2005 E60 535d (mapped to ~350hp)

>>17395737
they choose to own cars

they don't have to own cars

the guy I was responding to is a total class cuck who enjoys having to have the expenses of a car, like most of the US

>>17394118
Public transport is also shit, it was privatized years ago, now a single leaf on the railroad is reason the cut the schedule in half. When it snows, they start shitting themselves completely. As we always say here, in Hitler's time at least the trains were always on time. (Though fuck the gerries for stealing our grandfather's bicycle when they went home)
That plus it costs so much it that you can spend less on a car than on train/bus tickets depending on the distance and route.

>>17396161
>£300
>12 months mot

try again

>>17397218
>who enjoys having to have the expenses of a car, like most of the US

>posts on /o/
>is disgusted by the thought of having a car

ok

>>17396161
>Would that £300 car pass your cucked as fuck emissions and safety inspections?
Thats funny because USA has more strict emission standards than the EU, that's why VW got nailed there, here even with the cheating they are to spec, unlike in USA

>>17394118
>Spain
>Got cars from 500€ up
>you can insure them for 200-400€ depending of the coverage level (i'm paying 340€ for a 05 corolla, i bought for 4000€).

Just for your information, dutch taxes or uk insurance prices are not the average in the rest of the EU...

>>17396161
It only needs to pass the laws that were in place when the car was first sold.
For example, the old golf 2 diesel in my barn doesn't need a catalyst to pass but a newer car will probably be rejected if it's broken or missing.

>>17397894
The US are nazis on production cars and hillbillys on private cars. Half the population can buy a new car and rip the emissions equipment straight out without ever seeing another emissions check. Of course only few will actually do, but the message this sends is a pretty stupid one.

>>17397206
>15k for a car I bought for fucking £580.
Morons keep repeating this argument but it doesn't become any more valid. 18 year olds don't pay ten times their car's value for liability insurance to replace their own car (which isn't even covered by liability), but (AS THE FUCKING NAME SAYS) to cover damage that 18 year olds do to other cars, and 18 year olds do a lot of damage.

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>>17394118
>I wonder if the yuropoors realize that in the US, you can buy a brand new 460hp Camaro with options for what a Golf diesel costs in the Netherlands...
I wonder if the Amerifats realize that a third of them and rising are obese bastards.

>>17394118
Bizarrely, used car prices are right in line with the rest of the world. It's just new car buyers that get shafted (120k for a Mustang GT, lol).
Also some of the highest gas prices in the entire world. This country just hates cars, really.

>>17398121
It's not like they have a choice, the entire country would turn into a single suburb with permanent gridlock if the Dutch lived like the Americans. Literally the entirety of the American lifestyle is founded on having brought so much uninhabited land under their control, and the country would turn into a smoggy, polluted, loud hellhole if for some reason it were as densely populated as western Europe one morning.

>>17398103
>Well Americans are fatter on average so it doesn't matter
What a contribution to the conversation

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>>17398173
Which is not only directly linked to their habit of driving everywhere instead of doing any sort of bodily movement, but may possibly also have such enormous impact on their healthcare costs that it offsets all savings from their artificially cheap motoring lifestyle.

>>17398204
Cool story, but being fat is a choice. I can choose to be fat but I can't choose the Msrp on a v8 Camaro.

>>17398238
Buying a car is a choice, especially in a densely populated country with great public infrastructure. No one's holding a gun to your head and telling you to buy a Camaro.

>>17398258
You missed the point entirely. You basically said it doesn't matter that high performance vehicles can be cheaply purchased in America because Americans are fat, then said "well I don't have to buy one". America is better when it comes to purchasing a v8 muscle/pony car. This is objective truth.

>>17398286
And Europe is better when it comes to personal and overall health and therefore public costs. I didn't say that cheap cars don't matter because Americans are fat, what I said was that Americans are fat because cars are cheap.

>>17398299
>Americans are fat because cars are cheap
Well that's enough internet for me today.

>>17394129

How else are we going to fund all the diversity enthusiasts?

>>17398618
>62.8%

>>17398638

Whats the context, nigga?

>>17397903
Isn't Spain broke and being financially kept afloat by the rest of Europe?

>>17398644
Percentage non-hispanic white population in the USA.

>>17398286
Just to chip in, is anyone really surprised that cars that are popular and prominent in US car culture, and are produced in the US, are cheaper in the US?
Compare it to Mercedes for example, which seems to have more of a luxury car status in the US, while in most EU countries you see mercs all the time.

>>17398657

Some states are whiter than others.

>>17398103
>>17398204
>>17398258
>>17398299

>food costs nothing in the US
>can buy American V8 rockets for next to nothing
>eat anything to your heart's content and do donuts in your front yard

show me the downside

>>17398150
>the country would turn into a smoggy, polluted, loud hellhole

Wow the government is really effective at brainwashing Europeans

>>17398671

Violent nig-... oh wait.

>>17398204
lol this is a load of bullshit, every town has like 5-6 gyms and there's tons of options for sport and recreation everywhere you look in the US. Driving to work isn't making people fat

>>17396358
>get shot by tyrone
>medical insurance goes from $15k to $25k a year
>forced to ride his big black sausage for the rest of your life

>>17398676
Your population density is 6.5 TIMES lower than my country's, and your air and rivers are already dirtier than ours, and this is a scientific fact backed up by empirical measures, not my opinion.

Honestly you're absolutely fucking garbage at taking care of where you live, and this is my opinion.

>>17398299
>Europe is better

lel stopped reading there

>>17398684
No, but stuffing themselves with corn syrup and also driving EVERYWHERE does.

>>17398638
This is the sign a yuropeon has been cornered in a debate

>>17398664
http://www.ooyyo.com/netherlands/c=CDA31D7114D2854F111BFA6FBA1F355BDEA21D6617CB874111/-7650147258130693910.html/

>C-class in the Netherlands costs more than a Bentley in the US

good point

>>17398706
>muh Netherlands
Stop shilling your fucking misery, you cuntbag. Your shithole is the exception, not the rule. Move already, you whiny fuck.

>>17398688
>your air and rivers are already dirtier than ours,

yea that one piece of shit creek you have is a really doozy

Let me know when you worthless country gets a river like the Missouri river, Mississippi, Yukon, Rio Grande, Colorado etc

>>17398694
In what way? People can eat less if they want to. They choose not to.

>>17398706
Never been to Netherlands. You've probably won this argument if we're still talking about the NL specifically. I was basing my post more on my own experiences.and I live in northern Europe. Here mercs are probably as abundant in your daily life as muscle cars are in the US. Another thing, which I mentioned in my first post, is that people here aren't generally very interested in American cars. My parents live in an area where you can see porsches and such daily, but only a handful of people there own a muscle car. Those people all own some older cars. Only once have I seen a post 80s American muscle there.

Sure feels nice to be post-brexit
Aside from all the terror attacks we keep getting

Americans have their own people kill each other, we have to import the murderers...

>>17398736
Well this thread started by mentioning the cost of a VW Golf, which should be cheap everywhere

>>17398813
Golf is certified boyracer car in west-Europe, so it's unnecessarily expensive. Get a Skoda if you want VAG. You can get a Octavia (Passat) for the price of a Golf.

>>17398892
The octavia is built on the same platform as the golf and also costs just as much. It's literally a golf sedan and not a rebadged passat.

>>17398788
>thinking the Brexit will somehow magically change anything about the British car taxes, insurance system or fuel prices

>>17398904
It's as big as a Passat though, for the price of a Golf.

>>17398912
Not really. The interior space is p similar to the golf (variant) and so is the wheelbase.

>>17398947
That's weird, I could've sworn it was Passat sized.

>>17394118
Correct OP, have you seen how much houses cost here?

We don't have as much free money to spend on cars like burgers.

>tfw cars are more expensive in europe
>tfw europeans make a wage you can live on

enjoy your $2.30 serving job.

>>17399010
>tfw europeans make a wage you can live on
I wish that was so mate. The high cost of the social safety net makes taxes very very high here.

We do our own thing, but car ownership is not something we excel at.

>>17399010
I live comfortably in the US on a wage that is considered a bit over poverty level (grad student). Insurance costs are high-ish but everything else is cheap

>>17398079
You can do just as much damage to other cars in a Mondeo though. Seriously, how many serious crashes are caused by 18 year-olds in old Beemers?

>>17399086
>18 year-olds
>old Beemers
All of the crashes to be honest. What 18 year-old boyracer drives a fucking Mondeo?

>>17399095
Very few desu, if we're talking boy racer crashes then most would be in Saxos/Corsas/Fiestas. I just used a Mondeo as an example, any car would do

>>17399063
More car ownership doesn't automatically mean better car ownership though. In my opinion Europe excels at responsible car ownership and a healthier balance of cars in the greater scheme of transportation. Look at the Americans, they all get to own cars but look what it's done to their urban planning and indeed their overall social coherence and solidarity. It's a great place for bitter loners, but a horrible society.

>>17399106
When I was looking for my first car a Mondeo ST220 was actually cheaper to insure than a slower Focus ST170 because youngcunts would more likely buy and crash a Focus than a Mondeo.

>>17399109
>Look at the Americans, they all get to own cars but look what it's done to their urban planning and indeed their overall social coherence and solidarity.

It's amazing just how far Europeans have their heads shoved up their ass. Your governments have convinced you that prohibitively high taxes on everything somehow make for better "solidarity" and "social coherence". Just amazing!

>>17398079
Holy shit as if every 18 year old causes accidents.
I have a lot of friends with cars and none of them have caused a crash, including female friends who are pretty shit at driving.
Insurance companies are pretty much scamming out tons of money it's ridiculous.

>>17399145
We're not the ones robbing and shooting each other all the time. The United States' crime level is third world tier.

>>17398079
What about old people? They drive more expensive cars AND crash all the time

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>It's another europoor vs amerifat thread

>>17399158
>We're not the ones robbing and shooting each other all the time.

This hardly happens outside of 5 or 6 cities in the US. And it has nothing to do with automobile ownership lmao. I can see it now

>You don't want to own these NASTY cars
>Look at the pig Americans, they can buy any car they want and they SHOOT each other!
>You don't want to be like them

>>17399115
I'd imagine it's cheaper to insure something with a bigger engine and no sporty-sounding letters in the name than it is to insure a VXR or ST.
I actually want a V8 Rover 75 if I can find one, would likely be cheaper to insure than a lot of hot hatches.

>>17399162
If they do crash their no claims bonus gets reset. What's not fair about this?

>>17399158
Importing thousands of "peaceful immigrant" third worlders isn't going to help your crime statistics, bucko.

>>17399063
Sure the taxes are higher but I make almost €50k yearly on a high school education, I'm doing ok
>>17399082
How's that health insurance?

>>17399218
>How's that health insurance?

I pay around $150/month. Dental is another $25/month and I've got no complaints about the dental insurance desu because it's been good everytime I've needed it. I'm pretty healthy and never see the doctors for anything though.

>>17399218
If you could keep 100% of your salary for 3 years straight, then you could afford a Mustang in the Netherlands!

>>17399237
How much would you pay for surgery? I had my gallbladder removed, it cost me around €37

>>17399246
That sounds really expensive, I'm in Sweden though, a Mustang gt is about the same price as a focus rs, how are the prices in USA of those cars?

>>17399261
depends on a bunch of factors, I make little enough where I probably wouldn't pay a dime

>>17399294
Ah so your low enough income makes the government pay for it, well here all surgeries have a national set price, and it's about €45/day you're in the hospital and caps at €200.

>>17399270
>>17399270
lol no it isn't

http://www.ooyyo.com/sweden/c=CDA31D7114D2854F111BF26FBA27355B14A01D7FF6D49161091ED56F/8516117641832962827.html/

This exact same model with the same options in the US is 29,000 Euros or 285,000 swedish krona

>>17399308
The hospital picks up the tab and who ends up paying for it in the end is complicated.

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>>17399325
lol at that price

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>>17399162
Old people in NL who are unable to drive, buy an electric bicycle that has a higher power/weight ratio than a moped and no speed limiter.
A bicycle doesn't need to be insured and they usually die or land in a wheelchair after an accident.

>>17399365
>no speed limiter
Wtf they're subject to the same 25 or 45 kph categorization as mopeds here in Germany.

>>17399361
That's still close to $18,000 more than it costs in the US. And the US doesn't pay a premium to get Volvos

>>17399407
Yeah I know it's more expensive, I never said it wasn't. I asked for the prices of Mustang and focus rs in USA.

>>17398653
Nope, thats greece senpai

>>17399468
Spain is doing pretty bad too

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>>17399169
I feel ya brother

>>17399378
Not in NL, only the newest one do. A friend of mine in high school had one and he could easily reach 60+ km/h

>>17399482
And even if they are limited, that shit's stupidly easy to remove.
Old people with shit reaction times on e-bikes are the newest serious threat on the road, no exaggeration.

>>17399495
It's easy to remove or manipulate yes, but the people who drive them can't even bow down to inflate the tires.
They should just register them like mopeds so that they need a valid driving license and can get fined properly. I was waiting for a red light at a very busy intersection once, and a old woman ran the light going 30+. She was almost hit 2 times but she didn't turn her head around until she had crossed the intersection already.
Alertness of multiple drivers saved her life.

>>17399407
You gotta remember that European prices usually include VAT or sales tax, and in case of the Mustang it also needs to be shipped across an ocean. The German price for the Mustang GT minus VAT, estimated shipping costs and currency conversion is only a few tiny grand more expensive than the American price.

>>17399524
That's the thing, they need moped plates in Germany and - even though mopeds don't have inspections - if you're caught fiddling with them, like removing the speed limiter, you'll face fines or something.

>>17399631
The irony is they're starting to crack down on scooters/mopeds here too, but on those e-bikes anything goes.

>>17399622
>in case of the Mustang it also needs to be shipped across an ocean.

Then is there no markup for Volvos sent to the US or anything else made in Belgium?

>>17399631
Good thing for you, I hope they do the same in the Netherlands soon.
>>17399643
What he said. If they suspect you removed the limiter from a proper moped, put a fart can exhaust on it or brakes have gone too shit, they'll inspect it on the spot and impound it if you did modify it.
Meanwhile you can do whatever the fuck you want to an electric bike, as long as you have lights, a bell, and something that resembles a brake it's legal.

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>>17394118
>buying from dealer
>not buying from private seller
Here's your mistake

>>17397838
i _choose_ to do these things

holy shit how fucking young and undeveloped is your brain?

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>>17399710
how many km it got because with 90 PS and at this price it gotta be in perfect condition.