If torque wins races why aren't there more diesel racecars?

>>17393852
Because diesels are really fucking heavy

>>17393852
Because banned and Audi said fuck it and went home with their toys

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yeah pretty much the engine is heavier

from wikipedia on the R10 TDI

Both cars failed to finish because too much strain from torque was put onto the gearbox.

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>>17393852
So good it got banned

>>17393852
because it doesn't rev anywhere need race levels

>>17393852
Weight of the engine, combined with larger heavier transmissions to cope with the torque and more gears to stay in the power band.

>>17393917
How high a engine rev's has little do with how well it can race.

A narrow powerband can though.

>>17393852
too much power
tires don't like that much torque
a peaky power band gives the tires and suspension more time to respond
its a handling thing

motor sport has already gone down the path of achieving max power
every advance since the 90s has been for better efficacy per cost
and greater control of the power being generated

you want big engines ?
just look up a few of the cars in the link below
http://www.racingsportscars.com/results/Mille_Miglia-1927-03-27.html

>>17393872
also this
if any advantage can be found
it has been done already and subsequently b&

same with 4wd F1 cars
even tho the Ferguson p99 was a horrendous failure due to a rule change down to 1.5 litre engines
>see also
STP-Paxton Turbocar
Lotus 56

Too many retards in this thread.

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>>17393852
>Not using a washer under your nut when securing two surfaces.
This thread was flawed since the beginning.

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>>17394093
washers slip and would require even more torque to secure
washers do prevent wear but show up more often in low torque applications

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have a guess at what this kind of washer is trying to prevent

>>17394146
those are carburetor ones.

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Let's not forget the mighty FAP.

>>17394126
>>17394093
I want her washers to slip

>>17393852
because thats just retarded boomer logic

hp sells cars and wins races

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>>17394235
Area under the curve is what Carrol was referring to. You can have all the power up high but the car with a larger powerband will generally be better.

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>>17394193
>tfw my weber icev 32 does not have any
plenty of flat washers almost like gaskets
some cir circlip and a single lock washer

>>17394266
Dubs confirm fundamental theorem of Calculus doesn't lie and is right again. Even Newton wasn't all about force.

>>17393945
Yeah but still.

>>17394268
my del ortos have them

>>17394209
huh?

>>17394324
>using delorto carbs
Legimitately the worst pieces of shit I've ever seen passed off as a carb.

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>>17394235
think of hp as torque vs time
torque is just force over rotation

a longer effort arm takes longer to reset and will generate its pulses of force at a slower rate
this is due to the distance covered by the effort arm

simply put it takes the force of a long (in this case vertical and rotational) movement and using a fulcrum to direct that movement to a shorter distance

the effort arm being longer than the load arm gives it more force over the point of rotation on the fulcrum
also this distance from the point of rotation means the outer edge is moving faster than the inner edge

>this is just trying to explain a lever it does not even cover the following
entry level kinematics
centrifugal force
centripetal force
path of inertia
moment of inertia
1 2 3 and 4 th order vibrations

>tldr shits compex yo
>not even worth discussing here

>>17393945
Some drag cars don't even bother with a transmission

horsepower at a specific tells you how quickly you can accelerate at that rpm
there's two ways to make horsepower, lots of torque, or lots of rpm (or both)


when people say "torque wins races", what they really mean is that horsepower wins races, but lots of torque means you can get decent horsepower without revving to the moon.

>>17394367
>think of hp as torque vs time
no how about think of hp as power because it fucking is

>>17394316
Still what? not all diesels have a narrow powerband. Some gasoline engines are peaky and make all their power in the top 2k of its rev range.

>>17394193
Or holding a bike wheel from falling off.

>>17394367
>centrifugal force
You should've actually paid attention in your physics class.

>>17394198
FAPFAPFAP

>>17394367
but then what happens next is that there is a gearbox thatultiplies whatever torque you have
so in the end what counts is how the engine-gearbox combination behaves, how long is the power band, how peaky it is, how the power rises over time (not only over revs)
one thing that the gearbox does not influence is the frequency of power strokes, the vibrations in the engine and the engine braking
thats wht 2 stroke gp bikes are slower, they were too peaky and nervous and had poor engine braking, thus making them far less controllable

>>17394093
i want her washer under my nut if you catch my drift

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>>17394773
never mind how that power is achieved

>>17394843
what ever
there are foot pounds and pound feet
how are they different why should anyone care
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centripetal_force

>>17394927
more gears

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look at the picture
then consider the ling below
http://oppositelock.kinja.com/cars-with-more-than-12-cylinders-14-16-18-20-and-b-1497705863

all them crank shafts
and you cunts cant even grasp how a single lever works

>>17393852
think about this for a second op:

it is possible to design an engine that produces 1000 ft lbs of torque and only 10 hp.

it is also possible to design an engine that produces 1000 hp and only 10 ft lbs of torque.

the first one would be very low revving and the second one would be very high revving

>>17395149
yeah well the thread was a shitpost so dont try to respond so seriously

i understand the nuances of torque and hp pretty well

>>17395182
What the fuck is wrong with your brain that would possess you to make a garbage thread like this then?