>ten times the preformence car memeboxes like miata or focus

>>17392522
rice cars that burn oil

>>17392522
pigfat

>>17392522
so much quality that paint on plastics inside comes out in massive flakes

>>17392543
Yet muscle cars still exist

>>17392522
they're naff

>>17392577

Muscle cars were never light in the first place

>>17392522
Tons of people buy them. At least 5 in the lot of my apartment complex. My dad has one too.

I'd buy one if it had a fucking trunk...

...or got decent mileage.

Thought about buying my dads off him but it's auto and he wants 7-9k =\.

but theyre cheap as hell now so everyone buys them

theyve fallen into that teenage-early 20s ricer bracket

>>17392522
Not really. Actually looking at the numbers, that Focus RS you mentioned? It has a better power to weight ratio than the 370z. Plus it's AWD.

If you special order a 370Z, I suppose you can get the price per Hp down below the RS too - but if you're buying off the lot, they tend to only order loaded Z's and the RS will be competitive in price as well.

sounds like a pissed off elephant

>>17392522
I used to have one and it was crazy fun, I was just in over my head trying to mod it like I wanted because it was babbys first car. I eventually sold it but it gave me 0 issue and I actually got compliments on it which has not happened with any vehicle since

>>17392543
Dumbest excuse every time it's posted.
>>17392522
>Shitty interior
>Don't take to mode well (stock engine isn't that strong)
>bad image because only faggot teens buy them now


That being said, lots of people buy them. I had one, it was fun. But it was a cheap car. You push anything over 400whp, it get very iffy.

>>17392522
>pigfat
>shit interior
>outdated
>overrated performance
And The only options when buying are either paying more than they're worth to get a clean "adult owned" one or you can buy one that's a little cheaper but still overpriced that has been beat to shit from some dumb fuck

>>17392749
>overpriced
LOL how poor are you? You can get almost every model and trim for under $9k. And the performance was never over rated. No one ever said it was fast. It was a decent performer for the price.

>original MSRP $29k
>13 sec 1/4 mile stock
>handled well
>Limited to 156 mph electronically
Stop talking out of your ass because of your irrational hatred of things you don't own

>>17392522
Ugly as shit

>>17392543
But it isn't the stock suspension is overly soft for a sports car. 3,200lb for a modern car isn't too bad. A Moostang is still 500lbs more.

>>17392522
People did buy them when they were new, but they haven't been updated in a while. Also the Toyobaru is cheaper and is more appealing to the tuning community.

I'd love to see a Nissan 400Z that uses the engine from the Q60, that's would be a nice step up.

>>17392522
Slower than a V6 Mustang.

>>17392522
>It wasn’t posted already
Nissan Scum
>You might be a cool enthusiast but almost all the rest of the owners a total fuckheads

>>17392522
First, the Focus RS mops the floor with this.
Shit, it mops the floor with my old V8.
Second, it's a modern Nissan. That's everything you need to know about it.

It's the replacement to the 240 now that every 240 is a fucking tin can. And it sounds annoying as fuck.

>>17395005
Has the Nissan cancer spread to their engines now? I thought it was mainly the CVTs.

someone redpill me on modern nissans, why are they so bad ?

>>17395147
Same specs as decade old Nissans

>>17395139
vg35s in treefiddyzees burn oil

>>17395247
>VG
Do not insult the VG motor with that shit. 350z is a VQ.

>>17392522
Lel enjoy your wet noodle pigfat 350z for that price you could of had a v6 mustang do u even torks vtac toe-gay burgerking

>can't even handle the fresh

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>>17392522
>ten times the preformence car memeboxes like miata or focus rs ever hope to be at the same/lower price
>built by brand with actual racing heritage
How come no one buys them?

>>17394822
This.
And more expensive. Especially the Nismo version which has disappointing performance gains

>>17395825
>Also slower than a V6 Camaro while being 10k more expensive

Nobody should buy a 370z really, the engine sucks as much as the transmission and can't hold enough power to make mods worth it.

The 350/370 is a shitstain upon the Z brand. The 240, 280, and both the Z31 and Z32 were great cars. I really hope Nissan pulls their head out of their ass and starts to realize that they have another sports car besides the GTR. The next Z generation should compete with the American muscle/pony cars. Because the base msrp of $29,990 for a 370z is fucking terrible for what you get.

So many people in my city have these things. All riced to major shit

Honestly one of the worst posts I've ever seen on this board.

OP thinks he's got a point and almost every reply is him getting blown the fuck out...what a dickhead

>>17392522
old as hell, they badly need a full upgrade

>>17392522
They're fat, ugly, and expensive pieces of shit that further ruin the Z car heritage

>>17392522
>>How come no one buys them?
Troll confreemed.

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>>17392522
>How come no one buys them
Tons of people buy them. You just don't see many on /o/ because they're not underpowered shitboxes or ancient meme cars that are falling apart.

>>17394822
>>17395825
Unless you're talking about Mustangs in the last few years (Why would you be), that is false

>>17392522
>pigfat
>girly looking
>eating oil worse than some hondas
>horrible interior quality
>shit weight distribution
>unreliable
>wishbones made out of paper
>needs suspension mods or else it understeers if you actually want to go fast
>needs heavy mods to go fast on a track

gee, i wonder why nobody buys them other than asian girls
no seriously, what's up with that? i see girls driving this thing all the time
for a price of 350z you can get a boxter which is way surperior, or just buy a turbo miata which will also be faster this piece of shit, or pay a bit more for e46 M3 which will completly destroy it

>>17397429
I've not seen a single girl in a 350z ever, only 30+ males. That's a weird complaint

>boxter
Undeniably slower at the same price bracket and you know it

>>17397477
yeah, no
you can get boxter s for the same price as 350z in germany

>>17397405
NZFag here. They're actually reasonably rare here, too, for a Japan-only market. I see more Dodge Rams.

>>17397483
Well you sure as fuck can't where I live, not at the same mileage anyway. Based off CL alone

>same price as a miata
stopped reading

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>>17392522

aesthetics thing, my generation, mid 80s to mid 90s (stable job with enough disposable income to afford running a quality weekend fun car) grew up with the sleak lines of the 300zx/280z. This blob is so far away from that and has more in common with the Audi TT than its direct predecessors. Infact they would get a TT over this thing.

>>17392522
Timing chain water pump

>>17392522
Horrible in the twisties so your performance point is voided

>>17392522
>3,602 lbs
>makes you deaf inside from no sound insulation

>>17392595
In some cases muscle cars are lighter now than they were 40 years ago.

>>17392522
Drinks oil. Burns cats.

>>17392832
It also ran on premium and got terrible gas mileage while drinking oil.

>>17397596
I put 89 in mine and got 23 mpg on my commute whilst driving like a fucking idiot because it was my first manual dude

>>17397602
People like you are the reason the used market is such a fucking mine field

>>17397612
What, the lower octane? It does absolutely nothing unless you're banging out the gears, the guy before me was using 87 most of the time ffs.

>>17392656
thats a 350 not a 370

>>17392522
v6

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>>17397616
read your fucking manual, the car requires premium

>>17397907
It literally does for daily commutes you fucking spastic, you wasted money get over it

>>17399784
wrong

>>17399862
how much did you pay for premium just to drive at the speed limit dude

>>17392522

Because if I want an Audi TT I'll buy an Audi TT and not chinese knockoff

>>17399879
That isn't even what premium means you fuckwit. You put 100 octane in a car designed for 85 and nothing happens. You put 85 in a car designed for 100 and it explodes. Learn what compression ratios are.

>>17399784
Dont you know how fucking fuel works? i dont care that you never get your car above 3k RPM on daily drives, if you use lower quality fuel you are reducing the lifespan of the engine.

>>17399784
>nissan owner proves himself to be 100% retarded episode
I am tired of these god damn reruns

>>17399930
>>17399938
>>17399947
>discussing a car you've never owned
or
>wasting money
If you put 89 in a 350z, literally (literally) nothing will happen. Whether this is because they exaggerated the quality needed or whatever, it's true.
Put 100k on the car with 89, see that nothing fucking happens, then come back and sperg out some more

>>17399966
I aint even talking about the car. I am just pointing out that if you use fuel with less octane than the one the factory specifies you are fucking with the engine. Specially if you rev it. SPECIALLY if you rev it while hot. You are just gonna get it fucked faster.

>>17399966
>I drove my audi TT for 75,000 miles with no oil change and it still runs lol you know nothing about cars enjoy wasting money on oil changes :^)

>>17399975
>I aint even talking about the car
At least you're honest

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>>17392522
Taxman rape

Rx8 was more popular because low taxman rape. Also... 'Fuel efficient 1.3'

>>17399986
he aint talking about the car, he is talking about absolute fact you retard

>>17392522
I prefer not looking like a vaping fuccboi that can't drive for shit

>>17399994
They must be alternative facts, because they conflict with reality lol

>>17399999
350z confirmed vapemobile, how will nissan ever recover?

>>17400009
Dude i'm a fucking mechanic. Dont use lower octane fuel on your fucking car i'm fucking serious. If you plan on doing it at least use a thicker head gasket to be safe.

>>17400047
are you a mechanic that has never heard of companies exaggerating the required fuel quality? are you a mechanic that has ever owned this car?

>>17397907
Anything newer than like 2000 is built to run on 87, but just runs better on higher octanes. They detune themselves for it

>>17400066
I'm a mechanic that doesn't wanna try to see if the factory was exaggerating the fuel type by getting the engine to high temperatures and doing an italian tune up until it explodes with a lower grade fuel.

Dont think yourself smarter than the guy that built the fucking engine. You are just gonna fuck shit up.

that car is a piece of shit, not even 300hp, 3200lbs (no back seats?) burns oil and you will see one every time you turn your head. Why would I want any of that. It weighs too much to be a canyon car and is too slow to beat people in a straight line without doing lots mods that if you did to any other car would give better results.
Only chance is the next Z car cutting down weight but knowing itll be based off luxury infiniti im expecting nothing, not even a manual transmission if you ask me.
Ideally a 400zx would be 3000lbs with the I4 turbo or the V6 out of the new infinitis with a 6 speed.

>>17400102
>doing an italian tune up
a mechanic that can't read full conversations apparently. >>17400077 is right, not sure why you're so passionate about discussing a car you clearly know nothing about

>>17400077

You lose HP if your car REQUIRES premium. Yes we know your car can run on regular. The cars computer can change the fuel flow depending on the fuel, but you get peak performance using the correct fuel. If you enjoy a 10% power loss and increased wear on the engine, then keep putting incorrect fuel in your car.

>>17400121

It definitely induces power loss due to the decreased timing, but it doesn't increase wear on the engine per-se

If you're beating on it like a track day, then yes it could increase engine wear. There's a point where the auto-tune capabilities can't mitigate the lower octane fuel.

But just daily driving, there won't be any increased wear

And also, I've always seen in the programming that the ECU pulls timing, not messing with the fuel maps. There may be manufacturers who fuck with the fuel maps to prevent knock though, even though I think it's an inferior idea

>>17400121

I put wrong octane (too low) once in my Porsche. It started smelling like burned metal/aluminium inside the car, probably damaged the engine :X

>>17400157
>It started smelling like burned metal/aluminium inside the car
German engineering

>>17400121
>>17400149

Also fun fact, since E85 is such a higher octane, you can mix some of that in with 87 to get a higher average octane fuel while spending less than you would for premium.

4 gallons of E85 and 11 of 87, no loss of fuel mileage and in general more pep than running on straight 87

>>17400157
What Porsche? I'm
>>17400174
and run 87 or 87/e85 through my boxster, and have run it through 911s a plenty

Though forced induction is not something I'd fuck around with unless I had a custom tune set up.

Assuming I wanted to buy a 350z, is the 2008 model the best one to go for or should I just look at getting a 370z? I have this weird hard on for modern Z cars and I finally have another spot in my garage for a car.

>>17400166

Who won the 24 Hours of Le Mans?

Oh that's right, at least my car doesn't fall apart when it takes corners

>>17400183
>this triggered from friendly banter
stop adhering to porsche stereotypes

>>17400174
>Also fun fact, since E85 is such a higher octane, you can mix some of that in with 87 to get a higher average octane fuel while spending less than you would for premium.

No, it has a higher octane RATING, not octane itself. Ethanol compresses more easily, while you can run ethanol in engines that are designed to run on higher octane fuel, you are losing power, torque, and MPGs because ethanol contains less energy than gasoline.

>buh buh muh race gas has ethanol in it
They are running retardedly high compression ratios, your car is not a racecar.

>>17397589
Thats backwards.

>>17400198
Okay, you're splitting hairs. People can and frequently refer to octane ratings as just octane.

No one actually gives a shit about the scientific idea of octanes. Or cetanes, for diesel fags

It's all just a part of fuel, and what matters is how we can utilize the various properties of said fuels to achieve what we want.

>>17400276
>People can and frequently refer to octane ratings as just octane.

Because of the fucking gas jews putting ethanol in everything. If what you want to achieve is less power out of your engine, then by all means, go ahead.

>>17400254
it's not backwards when they leave japshit in the dust every stoplight

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>>17395277
Can the vq make 600whp on an unopened block?

>>17400077
Not necessarily.

If it RECOMMENDS premium, then whatever octane is fine if you don't mind lower power.

If it REQUIRES premium, then you'd best put premium in unless you like replacing engine components.

>>17400432
>these and all the ones that are 297-299
How many Mid Night Club cars actually broke 300? One or two?

>>17399966
Yeah, the bearings in your old car are FUCKED from detonation.

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>>17400678
Mostly the GTRs and the RUF

>>17400711
ffs we've been over this the car can fucking run regular catch up with the conversation fuckboi

>>17400198
>mixing e85 into a non flex fuel car
HAHAHAHAHAHAH. Holy shit. When did /o/ get this retarded? Pls be a troll.

>>17396710
Wrong. The z32 was actually more advanced than all the GTRs other than the R34 save for awd. It was the first to come out and was the halo car.

For a long time it was the only Nissan to have super hicas, vvt, and steel turbos

>>17400717
Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true. You literally have fucked bearings from detonation. I guarantee you fucked the bottom end of that car. It's just a matter of time. You're an idiot.

>>17400722
you can keep saying that normal daily miles have any more engine wear with regular than premium in modern cars, it doesn't make it any more true. you're an idiot

>>17392676
motion auto tv?

>>17400107
>400zx
Ooooh yes
>VR40DDTT with 600hp
>6 speed manual rwd lsd
>super duper all new hicas
>targa top
>and gauge pods!

I would save up and buy this

>>17400728
Lower than recommended octane gas causes knock/pinging. Fact. Sorry you're too stupid to understand that because you're a vape fag fuc boi.

>>17400749
>Lower than recommended octane gas causes knock/pinging
Which you can audibly hear if it's low enough to be a problem. Which no one who put 89 in a 350 ever heard. Because it doesn't fucking happen. You don't know shit about this car. Sorry your ego doesn't allow you to understand that.

>>17400761
Engineers who made the engine:
>Hey use premium for best results
You:
>Autistic screeching

>>17392522
Bought a 2003 performance for 5k fixed it up with 3,500$ and it's an awesome car. Fags that say it under steers don't push it hard enough. If you want it too the tail kicks out and you slide around. All around its a good car for the money

>>17400772
>best results
yeah no shit, there's a definite performance difference and no one's arguing that there isn't.

>bro FUCKED bearings from DETONATION dude
this is the part where you're overwhelmingly wrong according to every 350z owner who ever used 89

>>17400761
LOL, implying you would know what to listen for. You've never heard light pinging before. I don't think you even know what it is.

>>17400792
you're projecting, and still know nothing about this car lol

>>17400782
>every poor person who owned a 350z and had to put in 89 totally had the oil sent away for analysis
>they totally had the bottom end inspected by a shop
LOL.

>justifying your ticking time bomb car because other poor fags are also doing it

>>17400822
>poor people LOL
you're in a thread about a budget 'sports car'

But never mind, you clearly never owned the car so keep defending your fucking ego all you like

>>17400834
I literally owned one for 5 years faggot, back when it was new. I was just enjoying you digging yourself deeper into the hole. And your green text makes no sense. Poor people don't know what the fuck their bearing look like because they can't get them checked. Just because it hasn't gotten rod knock YET, doesn't mean the detonation from low octane hasn't fucked the bearings. Your car is a ticking time bomb. We see them in the shop all the time, we put a stethoscope on them and can hear light knock on a lot of the poor people owned ones. They usually just sell them instead of fixing them. Literally just did a G35 engine swap this weekend because of knock.

>>17400878
>we put a stethoscope on them and can hear light knock
Kek you almost had me

>>17401168
>literally this poor and stupid

>>17400878
lol just shut up you fuckin stethoscope nigga, 89 doesn't do shit

>>17401233
>too samefag and dumb to understand mechanic tools

>>17401186
Lmao I can only imagine the situation of you "diagnosing" a car

>"Hey Anon can you come by and check my car, the engine light is on"
>"Ya sure I'll be right over"
>Anon shows up, takes out rubber gloves, face mask, and trusty stethoscope from tool box
>"Where is the patient?"
>His friend proceeds to bring the G35 around the corner
>"Let's see what ol' Doctor Mechanic can do for you today" he says as he begins to apply the stethoscope to various spots on the hood and fenders untill finally..
>"Holy shit dude do you hear this?" As he passes the stethoscope to his friend
>" I don't know what I'm supposed to listening for Anon"
>"It's got a LIGHT knock bro"
>"I-is that bad Anon?"
>"You gotta replace an entire engine"

>>17401240
>samefag
>there couldn't possibly be two people disagreeing with me

>>17400678
Those speed traps were taken on curved turns of the track. They are not straights on dutch angle. Those cars would go much faster. Breaking the 300 barrier was i think the main factor that decided that you were in the midnight.

>>17401261
>there couldn't possibly be two people this stupid
>>17401254
.......Stethescope is a pretty common tool to hear engine noises..... How dumb are you? Have you ever been to an auto shop before? How young are you?

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>>17401254
...that is how you hear internal engine noise, you fucking idiot. A Mechanic's stethoscope has a metal rod on the end instead of a plastic cup.

you wrote all that and you're still fucking retarded.
end your life

Drive one. You tell me.

The infiniti g35/37 aren't half as bad but fuck man just mod an NA miata or buy a camaro. What you get for the price and weight is trash.

>>17401261
now you're outnumbered you fucking moron. Read a goddamn book.

>>17400113
I wouldn't put all my money and my engine in the fact that every car after X age was built designed to run on 87 octane.

Specially for roadsters or "sports" cars.

>>17401514
Well they aren't. We can check that live when tuning cars. Talk to any tuning shop and ask them to go for a ride and have them show you. It's easy to get a car to start pinging. They absolutely aren't all designed to run on shit gas.

>>17401549
This only confirms my suspicion.

People thinking that they know better than the fucking guy that put the engine together rustles my jimmies.

I'm a mechanic. Of course i know some people design engines to be shit. But when most people make engines to work it bothers me that people act like they know best.

>>17401514
>87 octane
ffs why can you not read

I've made it clear multiple times that I'm talking about fucking 89

>>17401460
LOL i'm here for my checkup doc

Btw the 350z gets smoked by even the Focus ST.

The 370z could maybe surprise a RS but I fucking doubt so.

>>17401575
>every car
Yeah I clearly said they aren't ALL, s you said, able to be run on shit gas. So either learn to type, learn to read, or STFU, because you are wrong.
>"absolutely aren't all"

>>17401701
Don't pretend to be me.

>>17401575
>im a mechanic im a mechanic im a mechanic
>works at qwiklube

>>17401779
>projecting

>>17401575
>i'm a mechanic
>it bothers me that people act like they know best
you aren't a technician
you are by definition unqualified, thats why you are a mechanic

>>17401829
ok dude. Have fun placing low octane fuel on a 11:1 compression engine. I'm sure everything will work out just fine.

>>17401852
>tell someone theyre unqualified
>spergs out about dumb shit i dont care about
sorry retard my c7 runs on 91

>>17401795
Not in this case, no. I used to be one as well, but even a qwiklube guy like yourself could probably see that the job market is slowly getting ass fucked by our overlords.

So a plethora of shitty bosses later, I said fuck it and became a truck driver. Which I recommend beeteedoubleyou.

Also, no one cares if you're a mechanic, just like no one cares if you're an IT tech when it comes to computer shit. They're still going to ignore our advice.

Also also, you might in fact be a mechanic, but you don't know everything. Just a reminder.

>>17401876
I am not telling someone specially they are unqualified. I am telling people not to act like they know better than the fucker that actually built the fucking car.

>>17401882
>I used to be one as well, but even a qwiklube guy like yourself

>projecting

> I said fuck it and became a truck driver. Which I recommend beeteedoubleyou.

Genuinely thought about it. But i live in a shithole, i dont think i would enjoy it for a living, and the permissions to be a truck driver are quite damn hard.

>Also, no one cares if you're a mechanic, just like no one cares if you're an IT tech when it comes to computer shit. They're still going to ignore our advice.

Good then. Go ahead and do use low octane on a high compression car. Nobody's stopping you. All i said is that it was a bad idea.

>Also also, you might in fact be a mechanic, but you don't know everything. Just a reminder.

Of course i dont know everything. But i try to learn new shit. And part of learning new shit is to learn when your previous thoughts were wrong and you need to correct yourself. Which is why i am telling people that using low octane fuel on cars that were not designed for it is a terrible idea. No matter how much money you save.

>>17401901
He's wrong bro, there is no refuting that lower octane can and usually does cause pinging, detonation, premature wear.

Just let him be retarded. It is unfortunate for the next owner though

>>17401980
>usually
maybe

not in this car though. He's right

>>17401980
I am not insulting him because i hate him. I am trying to help him on this one. Even if the insults turn him off.

compression, heat, and high revs. You mix all that with shit octane fuel and your engine will shit the bed. I'm trying to save his car.

350z and 370z are the top two cars that I see on craigslist for trade only. Might just be bc theres a fuckload of them but I kind of get the impression that the drivers aren't happy with the cars

>>17396408
Slower than v6 camaro. And you're wrong. My 05 350z beats my bros 2014 v6 camaro.
Granted his is auto and mine is manual

I would love a 350, but I'm poor.

>>17397429
>shit weight distribution
Do you literally have no clue what you're talking shit about?

>>17392730

You push any car to 130%+ of it's stock power levels, it's going to be iffy.

>>17401575
watch out folks, doctor here has a PHD in grease monkey tomfoolery. i dont need a stethoscope to tell you are buttmad

>>17402119
But i need one to check for piston knocks and to hear if the alternator runs well.

So I keep hearing this burns oil... Can you dd it granted you top it off often or it also develops other gremlins?

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>>17402059
Well, I'm not wrong but a neimal v6 mustang with 2.73 gears is just as fast or a tad slower than a 350z.

Now, the performance package V6 Mustang they tested on Motortrend and in Car N Driver showed faster times than the 350z Nismo and was almost on par with the 370z on the track.

V6 camaros 2010-2015 are also slower than a v6 mustang, newer ones are pretty much on par at the drag strip but way WAY better on track.

Also people here tend to forget that the 350z is fucking garbage and wears the tires extremely fast because Nissan can't into engineering.

People don't buy it because:

1. It's not particularly exotic for a 2-seater with absolutely no practicality.

2. Even though it's still competent and fun, it's not the best handling car out there.

3. Despite the compromises, it's also not particularly cheap. The $30k model ($29,990 + destination) is kind of a joke model - no limited slip and weak as fuck brakes. Like OK, you save $4k but now you have a car that sacrifices what it's supposed to be good at.

4. Because the non-base model is over $34k, you're now within range of many key competitors:
>Mustang GT: Way fucking faster, V8, better interior, more modern overall, roomy, +2 seats in the back + a hatch where you can actually fit shit
>Camaro V6 1LE - fast as fuck with all kinds of actual performance goodies, will BTFO of the Mustang GT and the 370Z
>Base STI - AWD track toy with trick differential - fun as fuck all day long and you still have lots of room, 4 doors, a big trunk, all-weather capability.
>BMW 230i - not quite as fast, but an overall better car in every way
>Focus RS is not far off, Focus ST and WRX are way cheaper will getting you 80%+ of the experience while being much more practical

So the 370z is a terrible daily, isn't cheap enough to be a random toy (like the BRZ/GT86), isn't fast enough, isn't fun enough... etc. It doesn't excel at anything while sacrificing and compromising everywhere and it's not even a good overall car.

The only demographic it appeals to are young, impressionable guys who want a JDM 2 seat sports car that has a high-ish amount of horsepower that they can drive to school and look cool. Unfortunately, that consumer group also tends to not have money and can/will buy used 350Z/370Z's.

It's just like.... man... who would you possibly recommend a new 370Z to?

>>17402214
>wears the tires extremely fast
Get better tires?

Whats a good alternative to the 350z in aus? The only mustangs we get cost 50-60k...
A 350z will be between 15 and 20k depending on the year.

>>17402316
It wears any kind of tires because it has uneven tire wear so you need to change them way way more often.

>>17402375
What do you mean uneven tire wear? Every car has uneven tire wear.

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>>17402422
350z has negative camber, sometimes tired even feather. Piece of garbage.

>>17402458
So its set for track days?

Just remove the negative camber if it bothers you so much. Is not fucking rocket science.

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>>17402458
>that pic
kek, so this is stock?

>>17392522
Looks like a niggers car. Nissans are all driven by niggers in these here territories. Its just a fancy Altima to most the general public, but usually driven by an annoying nigger or someone who wants to be one.

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>>17402480
>Slow
>Comes with negative chamber to fuck tires when driving straight (95% use of this car)
>Only runs on premium
>Engine can't hold more than 400hp at the crank.
>Just 2 seats
>More than 3200 lbs eventhough is a two seater
>Shit mpg.
>Handles worse than a Camaro.

>>17402497
That's not a charger / destroyed metal coupe of any make

>>17402503
Why are you projecting? i aint even trying to talk about the car.

I could argue with those points. I really could. But my point isn't the car, but that anything that was claimed as "the car eats up tires" can be easily (VERY easily) rectified and fixed.

>>17402503
Well two of those are correct

>>17402503
Almost everything comes with at least a hair of negative camber. My shitbox has a factory spec of 1° of negative camber all around, and on the forums even more is recommended, because of how the suspension geometry is, they still tend to wear the outside shoulder even with the camber in the negative.

>>17402099
it has front bias which is fucking horrible in rwd car you fucking retard

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>>17402819
You clearly have no idea what are you talking about right?

>>17402819
It's a FE two seater..

>>17402850
educate yourself faggot

>>17402507
Nah. Charger are more the image of "moms mid life crisis".

Nissan is pretty much the nigger brand now.

>>17402861
it's a what?

>>17402867
Same to you, dear sir.

>>17402869
Not in my local watermelon neighborhood, Chargers and Challengers galore

>>17402875
Seriously? Why are you even on this board

>>17402887
the fuck is FE?

>>17402876
do you have any proof that front bias in rwd car isn't shit?

>>17402890
You know what, never mind, back to your bullshit about weight bias.

350Zs have a 53:47 front to rear weight bias. That's pretty good, better than the older Zs since everyone likes to compare those

>>17402890
>>17402936
Same distribution as a GT86, so yeah that's pretty damn good. Not sure what 'front bias' you're talking about

>>17402304
The 370z gets even worse when you add their Nismo trim. With a msrp of $41,990, that's a shitload of money for a whole lotta nothing.

>>17402898
AE86? Do you genuinely believe that any car in the world that isn't a 50/50 FR has shit distribution?

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>>17402964
>Same distribution as a GT86
>53/47
Maybe with your fat ass on board.

>>17403017
http://www.tune86.com/toyota-gt-86-technical-specs-info-details

Idiot

>>17402936
>>17402964
>>17403012
it's shit
50:50 is also not optimal

http://automotivethinker.com/chassis/stop-and-weight-a-5050-weight-distribution-is-not-optimal/

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>>17403059
Why did you just link an article that has nothing to do with what you just said? Did you Google "weight bias 350z", see that the website has a 350 on the banner and is talking about weight distribution, and decide to link it without actually reading?

Are you also saying that the GT86, widely considered to be one of the best handling cars in the world, has shit weight distribution?

>>17403059
That's only for tracks you idiot. Each different car will have a different application with a different req for weight distro.

Sports cars like 50/50. Track racecars enjoy 40/60. Street and drift cars enjoy 55/45 or 60/40 and dragsters get pretty much 1/99 if possible.

>>17403072
>Are you also saying that the GT86, widely considered to be one of the best handling cars in the world, has shit weight distribution?
>widely considered to be one of the best handling cars in the world

it's cornering ability is subpar actually
just because the car is "fun" to drive doesn't mean it handles good

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>>17403082
>make car
>market its good handling
>its pigfat
>handles like shit
>double wish bone in the rear instead of multi link
>mcpherson in the front instead of double wish bone

>>17403082
Hahaha you fucking spastic, you're digging a deep hole

Sports cars aim for around 50/50 weight distribution, because they're meant for driving in public and being balanced.

Race cars aim for slightly more bias to the rear (This is what your article is talking about, you'd know that if you actually read it)

handles well* by the way ya fuckin goof

Too heavy

>>17402119
lol

filing that one away for later

>>17402481
I'm just kind of curious what he considers "extremely fast" tire wear for a sports car.

Shit, my yokohama S drives on my boxster are finally starting to suck during the rain and shit, and that's after 17k miles of me beating on it. And who knows how many miles were on them before I bought the car.

>>17402869
>>17402882
You're both right. Darkies and whoreish soccer moms are all I ever see driving newer Nissans and Charllengers

>>17403248
Thats uh...


Yeah, I actually kind of like that. Holy fuck, I never thought I'd see the day where I could tolerate a non-S30/S130 Z car

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>>17403059
>There are old muscle cars set up for road racing that have much more weight over the front axle, but if you drove one, you would swear that it handles better than a 50/50 Miata

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>>17397429
>bought 2003 350z
>3 track days and usually race the engine to redline while daily driving
>120k miles and needs a little attention to the clutch this weekend

>parents own 2003 boxster, only owner of the car
>garaged, never touched redline, only went to dealer for maintenance
>ims bearing failed at 65k mile and threw the timing so the whole engine lunched itself and can't be rebuilt
hope you're talking about 08+ boxsters and not about anything with a M96

>>17392522
>Mazda
>No racing heritage
At least they've won at LeMans

>>17392522
Can someone tell me what style of wheels those are, i've always liked them

thanks in advance !

>>17404695
Boxsters have to be tracked because it usually comes with the frequent oil changes needed to flush out IMS bearing shavings

Old lady drivers do an oil change every 3k and wonder why it's dead

>>17404695
The IMS is permanently solvable with an upgraded part, but like
>>17404991
said, I do think beating on them and regularly changing the oil helps

I feel its the same way with the Northstar v8

Every one I've seen babied by old people kills itself, every one I see being beat to death and raced holds up perfectly fine

>>17392538
just because its Japanese doesn't make it rice you cuck

>>17392522
>ten times the performance of focus RS
lmao no

>>17402029
It's because they are the japanese mustang. They sold a LOT of them, and they are now getting to the age where people want new cars. And like the 300zx TT, kids buy them beat to shit, then realize that parts and mechanics aren't free, so they ditch them looking for a unicorn car that never breaks down or needs repairs.

>>17402113
Not true. You push a 300zx TT to 500whp no problem on a stock block. 2jz same way. Titan same way. Any diesel. The s2000. The 335i. Mustangs. Camaros. Porsche 911. GT-R. And hundreds of other cars/trucks can make WAY more than 130% more than stock HP and not be iffy.

>>17402304
>So the 370z is a terrible daily, isn't cheap enough to be a random toy (like the BRZ/GT86),
AHAHAHAH. It cost literally $3k more. The MSRP is $29k. You can get them at the dealer for cheap. An frs is $26k. That is so close it's not even a deal breaker. You are talking out of your ass. I DD mine and it was fine. Mustangs are okay, but they still fall apart in 5 years time. 370z was built pretty well. The BRAND NEW camaro is faster, but it's also the new generation. We're talking USED cars dick face. STI is retarded expensive used. BMW230 a shit and expensive. Focus RS is retarded expensive. Why are you comparing these brand new models when OP is asking about USED ones?

Also the 370z is MILES ahead of the BRZ in almost every way.

>>17404695
That looks clean af, nice

>>17406379
>No problem
the max whp on a stock block engine for a 350z is around 450whp and 500whp for a 370z, way to low for the price of the car, a Mustang v6 can handle 600whp before blowing up.