/ORG/: missing snow edition

>tfw no slightly built Cherokee to chief to go do expedition things with

>>17381306
buy one wtf

>>17381154
y...

>>17381317
y not?

>tfw the rest of /o/ values their shitbox interiors
>im sitting here with the mud slathered all over my dashboard and steeringwheel from the last hydrolock
>dont bother to clean it because the interior is so fucked it looks better with mud

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>>17381335
>liking mud

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>>17381371
not him but I love mud. sliding into a deep mudhole is like teh sex.

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>>17381383
>sliding into a deep mudhole

>>17381383
>slide in
>go slow at first
>things are churning
>go faster
>get dirty
>work the stick
>start slamming from side to side
>finally pull out in a moment of ecstasy throwing spunk everywhere
>feel the last bits drip off as you realized now you'll have to shower
>watch the next guy go

>>17381392
feelsgudman

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>>17381419
>>watch the next guy go

Steelies or aluminum wheels?

>daily driver
>not xtreem rock crawling
>mostly mountain trails and desert dirt roads

>>17381487
Whatever's cheapest.

>>17381487
steelies for sure unless you live in the god forsaken rust belt

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How's org this lovely evening

>>17381383
i love mud too but have you seen what it can do to your electronics and interior?

>>17381392
>>17381427
blg drop taytay or go

>>17381857
how many mudflaps have you gone through

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>>17381873

>>17382027
None. Those are the original ones from 95

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>>17381873
cant i just post in peace?

>>17382030
thank

also, who made this? i'm genuinely curious (and kinda drunk)

>>17382148
no

>>17382195
i have no idea
found it on joogle awhile ago

>>17382141
oh shit

>>17382053
how the hell do keep them from getting torn off

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>>17382141
REMOVE THE TARP

>>17382205
ill kill u

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>>17382263
so it's 3:14 on the west coast
you drunk yet?

>>17382287
i live on the east coast
and no
but am about to go get sushi
so probably soon

u?

>>17382256
I don't drive like a cunt?

>>17382302
>sushi
damn that sounds good
not yet

>>17382313
that's not a suitable answer anon

>>17382487
Is that your actual truck? Much better than your shitty mercury or whatever the fuck.

>>17382956
I guess it'll have to do

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>>17383738
GO TO HELL NIGGER

>>17383850
Sorry m8 that thing is trash.

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Imma hardcore offroader guis

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Got the f450 axle under it and wheel centers in the mail and just sold the d70 so now I got $300 more dolarydoos to roll into the ugly fucker
>Tfw I still have the beefiest drivetrain in org

No new pics cause it's been pissing rain every afternoon as per the standard summer weather

>>17384161
But its ugly.

>>17384219
And yours isn't?

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>>17381059
>still no Wagoneer
Guy in my area is selling one and it makes my dick so hard and I really wish i had 5 grand to throw at this guy for his truck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10ATVWxnU5A&feature=youtu.be

>>17384371
>mfw theres one near me with no motor

tempting as fuck

>>17384371
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/6136966477.html

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>>17384449
fucking kill me I want one so bad

>>17384328
No.

>>17384619
Prove it faggot.

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so I just recently bought an XJ and I was wondering If I'd need to modify anything besides the suspension to lift it. I'm only looking for maybe a 3" lift, since I'm not going X-TREEM ROCK CRAWLIN' with it. something like pic related (which is apparently a 3" lift on 31" tires). would I need to extend brake lines any? googles giving me conflicting answers. looking at
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROU-670N2-Rough-Country-3IN-84-01-Jeep-Cherokee-XJ-Suspension-Lift-Kit-w-N2-0/141943974326?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41376%26meid%3De72d4436a6e8471eb80ea45aaf66549c%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D262736443775

since its a full kit. been watching youtube videos of people doing it and it seems straightforward enough.

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>>17385107
I hope you bought a maroon one. Its is the best color you know.

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>>17385128
...kinda?

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>>17385134
>superior 2 door
Nice

>>17385107
What's funny is that extreme rock crawlers actually go for less lift, to keep center of gravity low. It's the mall crawling bro trucks that love the 12" of lift to go with their 24" rims and stretched mud tires...

>>17385163
Didn't know that. You'd think you'd want the axles higher off the ground, no? There's not much in the way of crawling around here anyway. Mostly just backwoods roads and muddy ass trails.

And prarie. Lots and lots of open prarie.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ70piV5H-s

>>17385187
Well lift doesn't make the axles clear rocks better, larger tires to that. So they do a little lift then trim the fuck out of the fenders to clear the large ass tires. Lift does help move the body higher from the axles to clear larger tires.

>>17385269
>this is how stupid jeep owners really are
Doesnt surprise me really

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'04 TJ Sport reporting in. Just arrived in Michigan driving out of central Indy on my way back home to Minnesota. About to hit 3k miles on my fun journey. Didn't get to do some of the trails I wanted to go on, and I broke the linkage on my transfer case, so that cut things short. Thankfully I'm in 2wd until I can get it home and fix it up.

>Pic related, my baby.

>>17386219
Just crawl under and shift the tcase by hand it's not that hard unless you have weak noodle arms. You don't have weak noodle arms, do you?

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>>17385107
I think for 3" you don't need to do anything else.

>>17385163
Depending on what you mean by extreme rock crawlers there really isn't much comparison between a competition rock crawler and a street-going offroader.

>>17381059
>tfw no butterfaced gf to drive around in my shitbox during snow storms


why live

>>17386556
>butterface
>gf
I think that's OP's q t waif

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>>17385107
I have a 3" lift with 31s on my 99. Never had to do any other mods to make it work.

>>17386925
it's not
it's the dog fucker from killyourselfwisconsin

>>17386936
Very nice photo.

>>17387051
Explain the suburban and the original poster who took pictures of the vehicle and posted it here?

I thought it was a guy who posted his wife and then once he left /o/, some other anon started posting the dogfucker since she looks very familiar to anon's waifu.

>>17387068
The dogfucc'r?

Do 6.5 swaps still count if it used to be a 6.2?

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>>17387482
my benis

Thule vs. Roof Racks

what do

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>>17387751
JUST PUT IT IN YOUR FUCKING TRUCKBED OR SUV OR JEEP OR SUBURBAN OR TOYOTA OR IN YOUR FUCKING TRUUUUUUUUUUNK

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s10 blazers, yes or no?

>>17388033
yes
it's not what you wheel
it's whether you wheel or not

>>17387751
but thule makes roof racks? what are you even saying here.

if you mean roof bars vs. a roof rack then that depends on a million different things. what type of cargo will you be carrying with it

>>17388033
no.

>>17387819
pls the autism pls

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>>17388033
Fuck yes. Almost bought a zr2 from a small dealership here in town but they were asking way to much for the mileage it had.

>>17388436
>>17388436
You do realize that is not an s10 you complete faggot

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>>17388443
don't be retarded anon

>>17386936
What tars is them?

>>17388443
>not being able to read

>>17388555
No one has checked them, nor answered my question.

>>17388509
>>17388733
>are s10s gud
>yes they are so i tried to buy this other completely unrelated truck one time!
kys retard

>>17389465
>not realizing that ZR2 was the offroad package on the s10/blazer platform

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Shop cat is missing. I miss him. Been a week since he showed up. He's not at any local shelters and the neighbors haven't seen him. Pray for Paul, please.

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>>17389484
Please come home, buddy. I love you.

>>17389482
>not realizing that the pic you posted was a fucking tahoe and that the zr2 package was offered on several different models
i mean just stop trying this is getting bad

>>17389549
>not realizing that the tahoe is the vehicle he actually bought, and the zr2 was a completely different vehicle that he was considering buying
Next you're going to say "I was only pretending to be retarded"

I just traded my Subroru WRX in on a basic bitch 2017 Tacoma SR5. I want to get some tires that won't completely suck off road, what the fuck am I supposed to do with a set of 4 tires with less than 500 miles on them?

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>>17388555
>>17389202
Tires? They're 31x10.50 R15 Definity Dakota M/T. My old all terrains were pretty beat so I picked these up with the soft 8s for a decent price. They smoke big time if I do a brake stand.

>>17389562
What in the fuck are you even saying? The original poster was asking about s10 blazers and then you posted a fucking tahoe.
are you illiterate im genuinely curious

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>>17389607
sell em on cl, duh

put some boggers on that bitch

>>17389562
>this much damage control
hoo boy

>>17389656
I posted the tahoe, not the person you are arguing with. The picture had nothing to do with what i wrote. Whats so hard to understand?

>>17388555
LE EBIN CHECC'D
:DDDDDDDD

>>17388033
ZR2 Blazers are easy to find for cheap compared to the S10/Sonoma ZR2's. Make sure the frame isn't fucked because the ZR2 got a boxed frame that was stronger but liked to pull a Toyota. Also soccer moms abusing "the all wheel drive knob" to the point of permafucking the transfer case.

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Who 4runner here?

>>17389465
Did you completely misread that first post then continue to argue?

>>17384092
Nice. Is it yours?

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>>17381335
Mudding is fun, spending 2 hours with the pressure washer getting all the mud out from underneath the body isn't. I should have bought a cheap shitbox so I wouldn't have to worry about this shit.

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>>17384371
I traded my rustbox 99 xj for this mini wagoneer recently.

>>17385107
You'll probably need to shim your rear axle if you have a 97+. i lifted mine 2" and it was undrivable above 25mph without shimming.

>>17389484
>>17389536
spring is in the air
he's probably just getting some action

>>17390951
>no "y" in the file name
B L G pls

>>17392708
?

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>>17385107
First time poster.

Just inherited this from my brother. 98 4 door with the 4L. I love it, and I'm starting to do research into what mods are popular. Lot of folks saying I gotta get the KnN intake and the throttle body spacer and a new manifold.

I'm not really into the Horsepower as much as low end torque. Where should I look for getting an extra bump out of it?

Also deep amethyst pearl mustardrace

>>17392052
>traded my 99 XJ for an 89 XJ with a comfy interior
You did good anon.
Only thing better about newer XJs is more headlight options.

>>17392904
>99
>new
good job, /org/. never change

>>17390951
tay? is that you?

>>17392855
None, it's a shitbox

>>17393017
>er

90 would be newER than 89.
50 is colder than 90 and 40 is warmer than 10. Doesn't mean 50 is cold or 40 is warm. Learn the language you speak.

>>17392855
>KnN intake and the throttle body spacer and a new manifold.
no they're a waste of money
lift, tires, and regular maintenance

>>17393337
>k&n air filter
>waste of money
No.

>>17393714
What's the benefit of one? I know the claim is like 8hp and 2mpg increase, but other people say that the heat shields are garbage/bump the hood/let dirt in, you name it.

Are you talking about the full tube kit, or just the square filter for the intake box?

>>17393742
Sorry, didnt mean for a jeep. Just meant the air filters in general. I have one on all my vehicles. The cost alone makes up for it, you pay more upfront but they go a long time without needing to be cleaned. Compared to a standard air filter which should be replaced ablut every 3k miles.

>>17393808
Is the life of the filter the only benefit, or do you get longer lasting tanks too?

>>17393742
If you offroad don't get a K&N air filter.

>>17382487
Every time I see this truck I get a chubby.
>That 80s ranger, all murdered out
>Low power level Black Mesa sticker
Good damn they thing has class

>>17394100
Why?

>>17392855
Lift, tires, slip yoke eliminator, skids, winch bumper/winch, seats out of a ZJ, rust repair, gears, lockers, and I'd just about bet it needs a new heater core. Also change every fluid ASAP.

>>17394176
They let through small particulates even though it's an oiled filter. It's the main reason they can claim a power increase. Weave on the filter is larger than on a typical paper filter so it flows better.

>>17394211
Ah. Thanks. Ill keep that in mind.

>>17394190
overkill shill

>>17394341
What part of that sounds overkill to you?

>>17394190
Already gotten fluids and damaged hoses replaced. It came with a 3" lift, not getting a winch.

>>17394502
>not getting a winch
Seems like a pretty quick definite dismissal of something that can make a huge difference. And that Jeep does not have a three inch lift.

>>17394529
Brother told me it was 3, he could be full of shit though.
I guess the reason I'm not jumping to the winch is because I want to make this car primarily daily driver. I can imagine how much of a lifesaver it is in a jam off road, but my needs aren't there yet. Which i get that the point of this thread is off roading, I just figured it was a good place to take my questions given the vehicle

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>>17394564
If the amethyst in the picture is yours, your brother is either full of shit or also got lied to. Pic related is only two inches of lift, and judging by wheel gap yours is stock. And yeah my list was geared toward offroad readiness. For DD, I still suggest the ZJ seats, rust repair, and checking into the heater core. Additionally, speakers, head unit, probably head liner repair, cowl intake is better than k&n and you don't suck up hot air, and check into your door jamb wiring as they tend to be fucked.

>>17394617
I appreciate the suggestions. Definitely wanna sand off some rust and touch up the paint here and there. Good to know about the jamb wiring. Driver side lock switch can only lack all 4 doors, not unlock. Have to lean to the passenger side for that.

What kind of heater core problems are common in these? I just had to get the thermostat removed for the summer, getting jammed up and not circulating coolant.

>>17394714
Probably should have just popped in a new thermostat, they're under ten dollars. The heater cores leak, steaming up windows on warm rainy days, and during the winter if you're not running the defroster, plus you have to breath coolant, and will rust through the passenger floor pan. The door lock issue is either failed master switch, or failed passenger switch module. Mine had the issue that the window switches worked intermittently from master switch but fine at each door, and lock switch not at all. Replaced master and all windows work as designed, but locks still dead. Replaced passenger module, locks work as designed. Oddly enough my jamb wiring was all perfect, but still had speaker, lock, and window issues. The speakers were from the previous owner twist and taping aftermarket speakers in. And since you're bringing up issues, at minimum, you need to flush the cooling system because they're known to be shit and clog easily. You may need to replace your radiator depending on how neglected it is. Also, replacing the factory electric fan was one of the best decisions I made. It worked but was a bit out of balance. Turns out it had some fucked up current over draw and was causing the rough running issue I was having on warm day restarts.

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What is /org/'s opinions on Jeep Grand Cherokees? I know nothing about them but will do plenty of reading if they're worth my time
https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/6153710679.html

>>17394844
Electrical nightmares.

>>17394844
flags everywhere in this cl post
gc's can be great vehicles
but not this one

>>17394844
>>17394867
Have to agree with this feller. The story is complete bullshit, and if they immediately had to replace those parts, everything else is fucked and that's why they want rid of it. If you want one keep looking, they're great when you find a good one.

>>17394791
definitely new thermostat by august. what's the advantage of the ZJ seating you'd mentioned? comfier? lighter?

Part of me is thinking about biting the bullet and finding some aftermarket leather seats for it

>>17395000
The ZJ seats are comfy and robust, easy to find, and usually cheap. The big benefit comes from the fact that XJ seats are garbage. They're uncomfortable, and they always break, making you have a nigger lean while driving even if you're white. Aftermarket seats aren't a bad idea if you want to spend some cash. But with a great cheap option available, most choose to go that route.

>>17394867
>318 5.2 V8 gets great fuel mileage.
O I am laffin

flamewars aside why do people even care desu?
arent we all here to just off road? who cares if you drive a toyota/ford/jeep/chebby/whatever? cant we all just enjoy the hobby with our perspective choices?

>inb4 'kys ___is better than ____"

>>17395209
I agree, but you know what this place is. And rationally, some things are better at some things, and we use our version of telling you what's right for your thing. The problem lies with the pussies that can't handle their opinion being challenged. Just like this >>17395163. He's right. That engine is total garbage for a jeep and offers literally nothing. But the engine is good for people with small penises, who also like jeeps. But it'll get less done than a bronco with a vee ate, that gets similar mileage.

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how's the AWD system on these? adequate for light offroading?

>>17395287
No, Angelo, and I fucking warned you before you bought it.

>>17395287
Shit-tier, buy a real 4x4. Or just swap out the transfer case.

>>17381059
>When mosquitoes weren't a bane 4 you r existence

Went wheeling for the first time in the summer and now I know the paint also

>random huge orange spider in cabin

me and my buddy noped the fuck out of my truck really quickly

Say i was looking to build a fairly inexpensive 4x4 for use as a work vehicle/light offroader. We're talking crawling forest trails, not rocks or desert or shit, and as far as work it'd probably be pulling timber offroad and pulling a sub-5k# trailer on-road. What'd be the best base vehicle to start with? Reliability, ease of service, and cheap parts are priorities.

>inb4 suburban
too long for effective maneuvering innawoods
>inb4 yota
Too difficult to get parts for around me.

>>17392904
Close, it's an 88.
I do miss the nice headlights. I made my own relay harness and had IPF housings w/ Hella 100/80w bulbs.
I haven't had it long enough to search out an upgrade for these lights yet. I may be wrong, but they seem better than the stock 99 headlights.
The interior is so god damned comfy, though. Smoker windows + those massive bolsters on the power leather seats... It's anyone's guess why they ever went away from that seatback design. Other than cost.

>>17396412
Cost. That's the only reason.

>>17392855
>K&N intake
>throttle body spacer
You'll lose money AND power with those.

>getting an extra bump out of it
stroker or 4.10s. The latter will make your wallet hate being on the highway, while the former will give you eternal joy.

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Bumpin for another weekend innawoods. Developing a bad power steering leak so it may be the last time up North for a bit :-\

>>17381059
>Mosquitos bane of existence
Amen there. Bug spray is a necessity when camping by the river.

Lol at autism containment and stickies

>>17381335
Last hydrolock?
As in... you locked it up multiple times?

>>17382487
Totally lub your truck Crow

>>17384161
Why have I only seen two pictures of your truck? WE NEED MORE PICS! Rain never hurt anyone...

>>17386219
Nice TJ anon! Why you driving through Michigan if you're driving to MN from Indy?

>>17387140
The rig OP posted, the owner left /o/? What happened? Damn I gotta start posting in these threads more...

>>17387482
>Dat hood sticker
Hey that CB antenna looks familiar... I think that's the same one I have on my car.

>>17387488
Hey... Isn't off roading banned in Norway? 0_o

>>17388436
Nice Tahoe! Details on these rigs?

>>17390951
Tay! How you been?

>>17391576
Can confirm... It's even worse working on something when you have mud chunks falling into your eyes.

>>17392855
Nice XJ anon! Where you from? Have you trailed it?

>>17394502
>>17394529
Why would you not get a winch? I definitely need one...

>>17394844
That ZJ pictured makes me hard. The one in the ad? Not so much...

>>17396520
>Why you driving through Michigan if you're driving to MN from Indy?
He probably wanted in on our awesome scenery and the helladank offroading to be had in the UP

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>>17396520
>guaranteed replies: the post

>>17397148
>replies not guaranteed: the post

Brought my new hooptie out on a relatively easy trail on street tires just for the shits because I was picking up all-terrain tires the same day and finally blew the front right on the way out on the 5th run.

Please no bully, it's just a fun project for me and some friends. I'm planning on picking up a cargo rack for camping and some lights to go along with it. Other than the common sense items like tools and first aid, what other items would you guys reccommend to take out on an excursion?

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>>17397209
>bullies in org
hello newfriend this is a peacefull gen

>>17397247
And re-delete.

>>17396520
I wouldn't mind washing mud off so much if I didn't have to drive the Landcruiser through a very narrow gate to get it into my backyard because the pressure washer won't reach it sitting in the driveway. By narrow I mean less than 2 inches clearance each side with the side mirrors folded back only juuuuust squeezing through.

>>17390951
>guaranteed responses
8/10 for not too obvious bait

>>17397244
what a shitbox
kys crow

>>17397321
Go to hell you thot nigger faggot.

>>17397209
What's a hooptie?
Blofish?

>>17397275
Post landcruiser

>>17397370
>>17397244
>peaceful gen

>>17397383
Everything is horse pussy and mac&cheese until somebody talks shit about my shitbox

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>>17396520
>Nice Tahoe! Details on these rigs?
Picked it up 2 weeks ago i think. It's bone stock except for the tires and small lift. The factory maroon/gunmetal is an awesome combo i haven't seen before. It's going to be my dd. The suburban poking into the other pic was my daily, but theres something wrong with it. Setting it aside until i have time. It's going to become my project 4x4.

>>17397378
Hooptie == shitbox

>>17397388
>mac&cheese
hnnnnng
>horse pussy
HNNNNNNNNG

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>>17397378
Should have just referred to it as the 105 as I'm the only person ITT or of anyone I know that has one. Hopefully it actually rains a bit this Friday so I can get at least one decent mudding session done before winter is over.

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>>17396580
>Helladank overlanding expedition innawoods in da UP
Oh god yes! Where do I sign up?

>>17397148
1 post responding to everyone vs 10 posts responding to 1 post

>>17397275
If you don't clean the mud though then it traps the moisture in and before you know it the bottom end is rusting away :'-(

>>17397412
I know now, but it's a fucking pain to clean compared to the short amount of fun you get out of it. Gonna research into making up a sprinkler type rig from plumbers pipe to just sit under the car and let water blast the shit out of the mud for an hour before actual cleaning, would make things so much easier.

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>>17397392
You definitely don't see many of those in that purple color. The contrasting fenders add to the awesomeness of it! What motor you got in it? What do you plan to do with the burb?

>>17397414
Back when I had my YJ I would blast through mud pits. After I was done I would always throw a lawn sprinkler underneath for a few hours, set to travel back and forth. As long as I got to it before it caked on most of it would fall right down.

>>17397444
Bro in law recommended just an ordinary sprinkler for 30 minutes each on the front, middle and back but I thought maybe a giant system that could cover it all in one go would be neat. Guess a moving sprinkler would be fine too.

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>>17397444
Its a 96. It has the 5.7 vortec. 169k miles on it. Mechanically its in amazing shape. Previous owners took great care of it. No plans for the burb as of yet. Was gonna just get it up n going and use it for the family vehicle when we were all together, but the wife ended up buying herself a bigger vehicle. But the burb will sit there until i get my truck sold. Suburban is a 94.

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How are those cheap trail lights at Walmart?

>>17397557
You obviously like wasting your money so sure, buy 10 of them to compensate for the lack of one good one, We aren't stopping you.

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>>17397557

>>17397573

It's a summer hooptie we're repainting it I promise :^)

>>17397557
Lmao it looks like abbo cave art

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One (big) step closerto the dream

Are Rough Country suspension lifts good? They seem to be the cheapest but that also worries me.

>>17397936
Which one in particular are you looking at?

>>17397936
Rough country is junk, but if you're poor it'll lift your vehicle for cheap, will just ride very stiff.

>>17398049
This one http://www.roughcountry.com/gm-suspension-lift-kit-274.html
>>17398322
Any recommendation as far as brands that are good?

>>17398342
Just go with rough country until you're sure offroading is for you. Then if you find yourself wanting more in a couple years consider upgrading.

>>17398350
yeah this makes sense
they're decent kits for the monies

>>17398342
ome makes good lift kits

>>17397936
Rough Country's lifts are great. Their shocks are terrible though. RC lift with Bilstein shocks can give you a great lift that's still relatively low buck.

Rough Country does a lot of stuff to lower manufacturing costs without sacrificing the quality of the product.

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I need to come here more...

>TFW plan a trip to trail but suddenly there is a heat wave warning in that area
>TFW no AC
fuck

>>17398818
>TFW no AC
>no AC
>NO AC
How in the fuck are you still alive? I run my AC full blast when it's 72 degrees.

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>>17398931
same
but we all can't be fucking leafs, can we?

>>17398818
>tfw no yellow yj or tacofag friendos to wheel with
why does no one in the bay area want to wheel?!
i heard socal was one illegal mexican away from bursting into flames
phew

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>>17399026
Come down here and we will wheel with you buddy

>>17398931
>>17398942
I don't know, it's normal to me, not like having AC would change much unless I had a hard top and full doors.

>>17398942
>live in the south
>it's always hot
>plan on moving to rural Alaska
That's like half leaf, right?

So I'm looking for a lighting panel and this currently the cheapest one with both a voltage meter AND another auxiliary 12V cigarette lighter charging port.

The only problem is that it's hideous and has a "zombie light" option.

If I get this, I may have to put tape over the entire circuit to make it not so tacky

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07286CCDS/ref=s9_acsd_topr_hd_bw_bEGAZ_c_x_4_w/136-2942681-9801614?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-4&pf_rd_r=HJQBM6ZFTFSJ3ZJBDBN3&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=2b028a1c-656b-54ae-a9a2-5a610c220518&pf_rd_i=3398751

>>17398745
How much lift would a set of bilsteins handle though? Or do they make custom lengths? Been reading up on the rough country lifts for my XJ and the general consensus is that the kit itself is alright but the shocks are iffy.

>>17390746
>Also soccer moms abusing "the all wheel drive knob" to the point of permafucking the transfer case
Please explain what you mean by this. Help me to see inside the mind of a soccermom.

>>17398931
>72 degrees
>needing AC

it gets in the 90s regularly here in the summer and I just roll my windows down. AC even works.

>>17399232
They think that engaging 4WD will magically make them better drivers so they fuck the transfer case into 4hi while doing 60 down the highway the second they see a gust of wind blow some snow across the road.

>>17399281
oh fuck what why
jesus

>>17399224
They make custom lengths.

>>17399235
Summer days are regularly into the 100s here but it's the 90%+ humidity that makes the heat unbearable.

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I really REALLY need a winch. I'm starting to think asshats ate intentionally knocking these down to block the riverfront trails >_<

>>17397454
That does sound like a neat idea though. It's a bit of a pain in the ass moving a sprinkler back and forth under a parked truck. You could also set up to direct water right where it's needed too!

>>17397529
How do you go to something bigger than a Suburban?
>Things that are bugger than a birb
>Excursion
>15 passenger van
>???????

>>17398818
Could be worse... At least it's a dry heat down there. Up here it gets humid as all hell. To top things off my driver's window will only roll down about a foot and a half :-\

>>17399042
>Dat filename
You meant 2nd org meet, right? :-P

Challenge accepted. When I get the time off from work I'm coming for you guys!

>>17399197
You do know you can easily swap out those switches right?

>>17397576
Just spray the bitch flat black and call it good.

>>17399354
He didn't go to something bigger than a burb. The burb was a third vehicle, and instead of fixing it up they just upgraded vehicle #2 to something that could do the burb's job.

Also, 15passenger diesel E350 is sex. Just needs a 4x4 conversion to be god-tier.

>>17399354
>How do you go to something bigger than a Suburban?
Guess that sounded confusing. She got herself a bigger vehicle than the one she currently had.

>>17392855

don't waste money on the motor, do mawds to make it better wheeling

That being said, those exhaust mani's are known to crack so why not put a better one on it. 4.0's run forever with basic maintenance.

>>17399476
>the trucc of all truccs
i'd wheel this thing to fucking china

>>17399790
>extended cab F-1shitty on 29" tires
Yeah, no.

Maybe a single cab F350 high boy.

>>17399884
that's the point
it's a giant heap that i would feel no pain wheeling the shit out of

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>>17381059
>missing snow edition
no
i am not missing snow
why would anyone miss this its only june. maybe in august when youre sick of the summer but were just getting started here
now is the time of beach cruising and camping with only boxers on
why would you try to ruin this

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>>17399790
>>17399884
>>17400017
>it's another tay samefagging like a jewish-nigger hybrid and talks shit about my truck because he's a -2 cylinders cuck

>>17400849
>getting this mad over a couple of faggots calling your shitbox a shitbox
As a fellow member of the V8 masterrace, you need to wake up. A long-ass low-ass Ford is never going to be a good rig. Give it 40s, and a lift and regear to support them, then you can start calling your truck good.

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>>17400849
>jewish-nigger hybrid
say what
i like your shit box
it reminds me of a truck an old friend had

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>>17400903
>posts a gif that I know belongs to tay
>same filename
>I'm not tay cerealously

>>17400849
>he doesn't have locked 1 tons and 37s

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Fk the snow

>>17401359
Fuck mall crawlers with cheap garbage tires, completely unnecessary flares, and big nigga GRILLZ. I sincerely hope this truck is just bait. If you actually own it, I'm so sorry. Hope you at least find some way to enjoy your Fiat "truck"

I have a 5 speed 98' TJ with the godly 2.5 AMC I4, open diffs, stock gears, but 35's, a 2 inch body lift, and 4 inch suspension lift. it also has a plate bumper and some other bolt on ebay parts. my DD is a 07' 6 speed FJ cruiser (voodoo blue, of course) with a 3' OME lift, plate bumper, steelies, 33' falkens, and lockers. can post pics if anyone wants

>>17401405
Someones jelly because they own some 1980s cherokee

>>17401359
>Hemi
Why haven't you converted to electric fans yet?
>flares with stock-ish wheel offset
Why? "Because i like them" is a perfectly valid response, but that money could've been better spent elsewhere
>not getting a based 2500 in all of its solid-axle glory
Again, why? They're the same price with similar equipment, and are more capable from-the-factory than a 1500, plus they're still available with a manual transfer case.

>>17401437
Before I spend any time at all showing you why you made a bad decision, and inevitably insulting you with the truth until you go away, I'm going to need some proof that that failed penis extension is actually yours. Without proof, this will be my last reply (other than one brief insult per thread in which you post).

>>17400237
>>17400237
BLG pls

>>17401533
That's a 4runner...

>>17401411
post away good sir

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>>17401072
>he doesn't have 8 cylinders
anon maybe you shouldn't stick around for the barbeque.

>>17401411
The TJ is more than welcome. The FJ... Will be accepted if you wheel it. If not, make sure we see the TJ in the pics.

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>>17401541

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>>17401541

>>17401647
>have V8 under the hood
>have a bigger V8 sitting in front of truck waiting to go in
>need to gather more parts for intercooler piping

>>17401712
>>17401762
Isn't it? I honestly don't know Toyotas well. I'm going to assume I'm wrong. Should I fuck off?

>>17401909
its a FJ80 land cruiser. very different from a 4runner, even though they're both great

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>>17401411
>>17401552
>>17401672
here is both of them as of yesterday, theyre both under the knife rn with bolt on parts

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>>17401932
the TJ again with one of my friends FRS

>>17401926
Googled both. Yeah, I'm going to just fuck off. I'll learn some stuff then never post again. Sorry.

>>17401932
What are those roof lights pointing at? They look wonky.

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>>17401938
the FJ all cleaned up. i have about $7k to mod it with, not sure what to do yet. i want to keep it a DD though

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>>17401955
they are pointed up, and don't work. gonna pull them off tomorrow and instal a three way 20" light bar mount. it sounds gay, but looks less gay than you would think

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>>17401961
shes actually my tow rig too. ive towed a tandem trailer with a 61' chevy on it with ease. the brakes were a little weak under all that weight though and i burnt up my clutch trying to park it backing up uphill.

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>>17401979

>>17401961
You should more gay for trying to explain your choices than you would if you just said what you're doing and didn't care what others thought.

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>>17401987
i dont want people to mistake me for a bro truck or a truckstance faggot. LED bars just put out so much light they're hard to resist

>>17401961
>implying owning a bright-ass blue FJC doesn't already make you gay

Fuck me lads. Supposed to leave on a trip tomorrow and my adventure trailer isn't done.

>wrong bolt pattern
>tires rub
>spacers too thin
>new spacers don't clear fancy lug nuts
>bucket of old 1/2" lug nuts are wallowed to shit (why the fuck did I save these?)
>have studs, nuts, lock nuts by the 10s
>none are 1/2"
>run to vatozone
>buy cheapest 1/2" lugs
yeah I fucking brought one to check size +1 for me
>lugs are those cheap ass fat shits
>almost home
>realize they probably wont fit down spacers
>they fit
>thin wall socket in fat size doesn't fit over them
>realize I just got rid of 16 fucking new fucking perfect 1/2" lugs when I sold the old hardware
>call guy and beg for them back
>too late to go pick them up
>too tired to do anything anyway

fml lads, fuck it right in the ass

>>17401987
Sound*
Now I'm gay

>>17401996
do you fly that toy?

>>17401996
Literally no one thinks these things in the real world. You're far too worries about /o/ memes.

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>>17401998
>implying a 6 speed manual straightpiped toyota with 260 ft./lb. of torque stock with locking diffs and a short wheelbase + amazing approach angles is gay
also the only other manual FJC in my area was black (which looks like shit with the white roof) with cockstars so i went with the voodoo blue.

>>17402018
those bald street tires are bretty gay

>>17402018
>260 ft-lbs
>good
Yeah, no. And it doesn't even make that until 4000 rpm.

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>>17402008
yes i do. i work at my local airport and im working towards my commercial twin license right now. i don't own an aircraft though.
>>17402023
theyre supposedly M/T (according to falken) but im gonna upgrade them pretty soon. they ride great and are pretty decent in mud, theyre not great, dont get me wrong, but the pictures really dont do them justice.

>>17402023
What seekrit kluub are you trying to protect by insulting someone that actually takes their vehicle offroad? Are you one of those Subaru faggots?

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>>17402035
say what you want, but ive had american v8s before and shitty 4 cylinders and i can comfortably say that the 4.0 is a great match for the size and weight of the FJ

>>17402051
>same size and weight as 2 door Tahoe
>20 hp less
>70 ft-lbs less

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What poorfag shit can I do to my 2017 Tacoma SR5 to make it look a little less like a U-haul rental?

Would plastidipping the fender flares black be retarded?

>>17402083
>Would plastidipping the fender flares black be retarded?
That'll just make it look like a base model.

>>17402083
trade for a trd

>>17402087
The turd generation has body matching flares on the base model

>>17402088
too many shekels

>>17402096
get a better job

>>17402068
the FJ weighs about 800 lbs less and a wheelbase about a foot shorter, but the build quality and reliability is far superior. one of my buddies has a z71 two door hoe and its an absolute pig. my sister has a z71 cateye and it is also an incredibly unreliable car. not all chevrolets are, my dads old worktruck was a roundeye chevy and he put 330k on it before selling it, running and driving with no rebuilds and burning no oil.

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>>17401897
we know you don't have a v8 tay.

>>17402111
>the FJ weighs about 800 lbs less
>4500 - 4290 = 800
I don't think so.

>wheelbase about a foot shorter
>111.5 - 105.9 = 12
I don't think so.

>but the build quality and reliability is far superior.
Now this is just a bad joke.

>>17402083
Wheels and tires. Not even necessarily bigger, just different.

>>17402153
the numbers i had said the 2 door hoe weighs in at 4850 pounds dry. the 2wd model. and the wheelsbase is listed at 111.5-117.5, not sure what models were different there. the FJ has a wheelbase of 105.5 inches and a weight of 4050-4350, presumably due to 4wd and automatic/manual. i would guess mines at 4200. and yes, the build quality and reliability is far superior from my experience. i've thrashed and abused two toyotas, one with 200k+ miles, and have gotten no problems in return. i have DD and not even abused a cateye with the 5.3 with 160k miles and had to make a somewhat large repair almost every year. the chevy had never seen mud or any offroading other than a dirt road every now and then, and the heaviest thing it ever towed was a 87' mastercraft, that my little 216k mile 3.4 towed with ease. other people experience's may differ, but my firthand experience says that toyota makes a much better product than any GM

>>17402209
>the numbers i had said the 2 door hoe weighs in at 4850 pounds dry. the 2wd model. and the wheelsbase is listed at 111.5-117.5
117.5 is the 4 door. 4850 is probably a 2WD 4 door as well.

2WD FJ is 4050, 4x4 manual is 4290, and 4x4 auto is 4295.

>much better product than any GM
How many FJCs have made it to a million miles?

>>17402242
im not sure where you're getting your info, but it seems believable enough, although i would expect the auto fj to have more than a 5 pound difference. but if you have a million mile 5.7 with no rebuilds i would be incredibly surprised. when the 4.0 gets to be the same age, i guarantee a higher percentage of them will still be on the road. also, and extra 1.7 liters for 20 hp? thats pretty pathetic if you ask me. not hating on chevrolet, im just saying that a 4.0 shouldn't even be compared to a 5.7, yet on paper theyre dangerously close.

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>>17402143

>>17402266
an extra 20hp that comes in 1500rpm lower. The 4.0, like all modern V6s, makes its high power by screaming up to insane rpm, whereas the 5.7 makes all of that power lower down

My XJ is having a lot of issues with surface rust so I was thinking about repainting it over the summer with Monstaliner which is a type of bed liner. I was going to grind all the surface rust down to bare metal, then prime over it. The rest of the paint I'd just scuff up a bit. It has almost 200k miles and it's been giving me a few problems lately, so does /org/ think it would even be worth it to repaint?

>>17402266
>peak HP/L
Arbitrary metric that means nothing for a 4x4.
Less power per cubic inch makes for a low stress engine that will last longer with less maintenance.
More power per cubic inch means you can make more power at a lower tax cost if you're taxed per liter.
Which do you want owning a 4x4 in the US?
And again, this is peak HP, it only tells a small portion of the story. The 70 ft-lb difference and the RPM difference between peaks tells quite a bit more. The 4.0 you have to wind up to make power. The 5.7 has a flat torque curve and has a significantly wider power band.

>>17402294
>>17402317
while this may be true, it doesn't change the fact that toyota has proven to be more reliable (in my firsthand experience, if you want to argue that) and these vehicles weren't built as competitors. no matter what a 2 door tahoe is outfitted with, the 4.0 is a durable, reliable engine with plenty of hp and torque for the FJ. its not my fault chevy fanboys get butthurt because the FJ is a genuinly good vehicle. it has its cons, dont get me wrong, but it's a solid vehicle.

>>17402338
Just buy a Tahoe. There's no need to keep defending bad decisions. Stop trying to identify yourself to the world with what you drive. You'll be happier.

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>>17401947
Stay a while. Learn more. It probably confused you because he took off the running boards. Mine is still on.

>>17390951
How did this get so many resbonses.
>tay imposter pls go

>>17402143
THATS NOT ME EITHER!

>>17402350
i genuinly thought about it, but after all my friends bad experiences with his, i decided to stay away. one of the worst parts about the FJ is the cheap feel of the interior, but the interior of the two door tahoe makes the FJ's interior seem sturdier than that of a military humvee

>>17402370
>but the interior of the two door tahoe makes the FJ's interior seem sturdier than that of a military humvee
Back to the bad jokes I see.

>>17402083
Ignore these ignorant plebs. 2 inch body spacer lift+level will run you ~$80. Bedline/plastidip/paint your wheels for another $20. New set of tires would make it look best, but that's expensive

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>>17402023
>Bald street tires are gay
Am I gay if my MTs are bald up front? I know I'm retarded for not rotating them but...

>>17401411
>>17401932
>>17401938
>>17401956
>>17401961
>>17401979
>>17401986
>>17401996
>>17402018
>>17402036
>>17402051
Nice rigs! You have to map yourself. Interesting choice of vehicles though... I personally consider the FJ too similar to a TJ, so mentally I couldn't justify having both considering my current parking and financial situation.

>>17402366
Tay? Or? Damnit... everyone has Land Cruisers now. I can't tell who is who

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>>17402488
I don't even know who I am...

>>17402389
all 90's american cars have shitty interiors. >>17402488
thanks man! i need to sell my tj but i havent gotten around to it yet. theyre so fun

>>17402299
Yes. But wait til a day or two before taking it in for paint to do your prep work.

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MFW I come back to /org/ after a month of being gone and my truck is the thread pic and some retard is posting my wife

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>Need $111 in parts to install bilstein shocks because stock are load leveling
>Even then the rear spring with load leveling is too soft for a standard shock and needs replaced as well
>Front shocks half the suspension has to come apart
>Springs are near impossible to compress by a home-gamer
This is why I like old vehicles

>>17401359
Faggot mobile...

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>>17401359
>H1 OFFCR

>>17403370
Is your wife actually the dog fucker?

>>17403768
you can't be this stupid anon

>>17403480
Eyyy

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Hassayampa Riverbed today. Waiting on mesh grille replacement so excuse the ugly insert. I also added a full size fold-down spare tire to the hitch, don't have any pics yet. Getting rock sliders put on next week. What do you guys think, should I bedline them or do some kind of paint?

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>>17404417

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I've decided that my next vehicle is gonna be a Suburban. Late nineties or early 2000's, not too familiar with the difference between them. Since I've seen a lot of them on /org/ I was hoping you guys could offer some advice. Trouble spots to look for or necessary upgrades, things of that nature.

>>17404450
92-99 old body style (OBS) GMT 400 burbs are known for being sloppy i.e. shit rattles, interior parts will loosen and fall off, IFS likes to bump steer and minor shit like that. But they have a good reputation for off-road capability. The 10 bolt out back isn't a D60 though, so be careful how hard you romp with a full load.

Some general gmt-400 bullshit:

ABS modules like to break after 100k. Most used OBS chevies have parking/ABS lights on

Steering shaft clunk, usually need to replace the shafts and pitman arms

Doors will randomly lock and unlock themselves

28 spline models will usually have some wear/pitting on the rear shafts

Overall most of the issues I've seen are minor and fIxable and mostly cosmetic. If you're the kind of person who's anal about appearance/wear and tear, after the fifth time re-gluing your third brake light or popping your lock knob back in the socket you'll be ready to drive that fucker off a cliff

I'd look at gmt400 trucks instead - lower GVW, slimmer profile, longer wheelbase, higher tow capacity, bigger aftermarket and you can always buy a used camper shell and rattlecan it

>>17381059
What bumper

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So would this be what's causing my jeep to stumble up hills? Check engine light isnt coming on.

>>17404488
While the GMT400 has cons, the only one you got right was the 10 bolt.

Pitman arm and idler arm, kind of. They're fine as long as the previous owner wasn't running 35s for 20k+ miles and beating on it off road. Under normal driving conditions with occasional off road use and stock size tires, they're easily 200-300k parts. I wouldn't call that an issue.

>shit rattles
The truck itself doesn't. If you leave change and hardware in every compartment you can find, you're going to hear rattles. Can't blame that on the truck.

>interior parts will loosen and fall off
Less common than in other 90s vehicles. Dash will crack at the mount points by the windshield if it's sat with the sun facing it it's entire life. If it was kept in a garage, under a canopy, or under trees, even that isn't an issue. The rest of the interior plastics are great except for the rear fold out cup holder, but that was an issue on GMT800s as well.

>IFS likes to bump steer and minor shit like that
The IFS has damn near perfect geometry and bump steer is entirely nonexistent with stock offset wheels. If you put deep dish wheels on it for "stance" then expect bump steer in addition to accelerated ball joint and wheel bearing wear, but that's true for any vehicle.

>ABS modules like to break after 100k
I've yet to see a single one go out in any of the multiple GMT400s I've dealt with which were all near or over 200k miles. I've seen ONE go out in a GMT800, I wouldn't consider that a common problem for either platform.

>Doors will randomly lock and unlock themselves
You've got a short or you're sitting on the remote. I'd wager it's a short though.

GMT400 trucks have the same GVWR, profile, towing capacity, and aftermarket as GMT400 Suburbans. If you get a single cab long bed, the wheelbase is the same too.

>>17404488
>>17405034
The cons that you didn't hit on that are legitimate are the fuel pump, transmission if 4L60e, starters, and poor clear coat that leads to peeling paint and eventually surface rust on the body.

These are actual issues that appear more commonly in GMT400s than they do in other vehicles.

>>17404937
what kind of jeep?
rpm's/mph when you notice the hesitation?

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>>17405112
98 Cherokee with the 4.0. Just changed the plugs out and it didn't help. It stumbles at idle, too. Usually its only if I'm going up a hill around 2.5k-ish rpms. Not getting a check engine light so I'm guessing it's just a dirty sensor or something. I get on the gas and it goes away.

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>>17404450
94 and earlier have the better interiors. I have a 94 burb and a 96 tahoe. Fucking hate the 96 interior. Everything creeks and claps. My 94 on the other hand is solid and quiet. Not only that but it feels much more spacious inside that the later model interiors.

>>17405056
>fuel pump failure is only a GM problem
>the clear coat of a specific vehicle in a manufacturer's lineup varies so greatly from other clear coats of similar offerings that it is a distinct problem with that specific model year

Ok bud you're obviously a seasoned mechanic

>>17405034

t. insecure boxy suburban owner

>>17405134
Did you change the wires with the plugs?
>>17405034
>if you take perfect care of a vehicle, store it indoors, keep it completely stock and only occasionally do "light off-roading" it will last longer

This is /org/ bud and I see bad ABS modules on just about every gmt400 and 800 I work on

t. swift

>>17403395
>tfw bought the last model 'Cruiser before they went went drive by wire
>reading up on all the newer models and all the bullshit trouble they have with electronics and dusty, bumpy tracks

Dodged a bullet there.

>>17405294
I did not. I do plan on doing a full tune up though. Just wanted to avoid relying I the parts cannon if at all possible.

>>17405241
More commonly than other models does not mean it does not happen in other models.

The clear coat issue is not specific to one model year, it's across the GM truck line for several years.

But okay, I wont mention what problems appear in what proportions. The simple fact that they are possible makes them all equally likely. You're obviously a statistics major since everything is either 0%, 50%, or 100% likely. Must be pretty easy.

>>17405294
There is quite a bit of middle ground between an elderly couple garage keeping a vehicle and taking it down a dirt road twice a year and a 16 year old parking it out by the road in the sun all day every day, throwing 35s on stock suspension and then beating the absolute piss out of it in a mud pit every weekend.

Stop making things out to be black and white when they are not.

>I see bad ABS modules on just about every gmt400 and 800 I work on
Do you own them, or do you just work on them as part of an occupation?

>>17405034
Did anything about my first post cause you to believe the info I posted came from my own personal experience with a single vehicle, or is that a conclusion you inexplicably come to yourself? I drive a Toyota. I work on OBS silverados just about every other day, probably around 100 in total

The gmt400 interior will rattle. Front fold out cup holders, glove box lids, door cards. Shit rattles.

Power door lock wiring is a common issue, along with ABS. You don't even need to be a mechanic, just search any forum lmao

As for the rest of your garbage post, obviously if a vehicle is taken care of it will last longer, and keeping stock wheels and tires will put less strain on the suspension, but on offroad threads we don't judge a vehicle's worth by it's ability to drive on pavement with stock suspension and tires.

Nearly all factory IFS systems have "nearly perfect" geometry. The thing you're missing is we don't run them factory. With any kind of u-joint pulls, suspension lifts, knuckle spacers, torsion keys or even body spacers the gmt400 becomes more susceptible to bump steer than similar vehicles would with the same modifications due to a.) the design of the drive axle joints and b.) the GM steering system for those years

>>17405034

>GMT400 trucks have the same GVWR, profile, towing capacity, and aftermarket as GMT400 Suburbans. If you get a single cab long bed, the wheelbase is the same too.

Nigha wut

>>17405451
Whats hard to understand?

>>17405473
Literally just google those stats and see how wrong you are scrublord

>>17405489
No, you are wrong

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>this thread now

>>17405507
No. You are. I am right.

>>17405516
no you rong

>>17405431
>or is that a conclusion you inexplicably come to yourself?
No, I didn't come to that conclusion at all. But since you bring it up, do you think not owning one and ONLY working on ones that normies bring in gives you a better idea of what issues are most common that people that have owned dozens of them themselves?

>Front fold out cup holders
I can't speak for the 94- fold out cup holder but the slide out in the 95+ does not rattle at all. The rear only rattles if it's already broken, but what doesn't?

>Power door lock wiring is a common issue
No, it's not. Does it happen? Yes. Does it happen more often on GMT400s than it does on the average vehicle? No. Explorers and Expeditions are REALLY bad about the power door locks. These aren't.

>along with ABS
Again, it can happen, it has happened. That does't make it common.

>just search any forum lmao
Are you twelve?

>but on offroad threads we don't judge a vehicle's worth by it's ability to drive on pavement with stock suspension and tires.
That's not at all what I'm doing. Simply pointing out that if you are looking to buy one and it was beat exceptionally by a 16 year old that didn't give a fuck for an extended period of time (as is common for Z71s) then it will suffer from those issues. If it has not been, then it likely will not suffer from those issues.

>The thing you're missing is we don't run them factory.
Buying one with stock tires to put 32" ATs on it will have a different result that buying one with 35s on stock suspension with cut fenders and keys cranked to the stops.

>torsion keys or even body spacers the gmt400 becomes more susceptible to bump steer
Jesus Christ you're retarded. You think a body lift causes bump steer? Please explain the science behind that. This is why I do not bring my person vehicles to "professional" mechanics.

>than similar vehicles would with the same modifications
Entirely false.

>>17405451
They're literally the same thing with the gas tank in a different spot. Besides bed rails or a bed cap pretty much anything that will bolt onto a GMT400 pickup will bolt onto a GMT400 Suburban. The suspension and drivetrains are the same, making the GVWRs and tow ratings the same. Everything from the front doors forward is literally identical.

>>17405431
You've got to accept the fact that being a mechanic gives a you skewed point of view and often causes you to apply logic from other vehicles even when it doesn't really fit.

>>17405134
There's a known common issue with 4.0s where the valves get serious carbon buildup and causes that kind of hiccup under those circumstances. Not saying that's the problem, but it's a possibility. If a full tune up doesn't stop it, try some Lucas fuel injector cleaner.

>>17405534

Frame horns and bumper brackets are different, gvw affects towing capacity, rear spring load affects towing capacity, rear leads are different, just to name a few

Interesting how you initially used your assumption that I was using a personal vehicle to make generalizations as a way to invalidate my argument and now you're using the same situation to validate your own

>>17404450
I will bet my life that this post was just burbatard wanting to start a conversation with himself and shit another thread into oblivion.

>>17405559
The wierd thing is it only just started doing this. Had it a about a week and a half now. Only started occuring two days ago. Before this it had a shit battery, so maybe I just need to let it sit unplugged and have it relearn the parameters.

>>17405584
>Interesting how you initially used your assumption that I was using a personal vehicle
Accept I never made that assumption...

>Frame horns and bumper brackets are different
Frame horns are the same between Suburban and pickup of the same GVWR.
Front bumper brackets are the same between Suburban and pickup of the same year.
Rear bumper brackets are admittedly different between Suburban and pickup due to slight differences at the rear of the frame.
GVWRs are the same between Suburban and pickup with the same options.

>>17405657
>accept

>>17405666
I knew someone would catch that. I meant except but technically the sentence could work either way.

>>17405591
>he doesn't know murphy, burbalade, blazer anon, BLG, cummy, yellow YJ guy, and tacofag are all the same person

>>17405591
I seriously believe that he does this regularly