>tell me why I shouldn't do it

>Super clean title
???

so you can whip out thousands of $ whenever a bulb fails?

>>17377978
I have the money, I really want something new right now

>>17377982
Then what are you asking on here for?

>>17377982
new to you 3k civic

>>17377968
because you could buy a piece of land and a 5 bay garage with that money.

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I was looking into the R8 earlier this year but kind changed my mind, I'm looking for something really fun and mind blowing

Not to impressive chicks, just something for me


>>17377989
Good choice if I want to get a grocery getter and I could use one, but not interested in civics unless its a clean title eg hatch and I can throw 100k at it and build a nice drift car

>>17377982
Then don't waste it on a FOURTEEN YEAR OLD ITALIAN SUPERCAR. Surely there must be other, newer cars with better reputations in the same price range

>>17377968
My fucking god.. how much was this car new?

C6 Z06s were like 70k new and depreciated down to 35k give or take. weren't these 200k new? now they go for around 90k?

>>17377991
Shit, yea thats on the plans for next year I don't want property right now since I'm on a long term contract at my current place. Next year I'm shopping for property

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>>17377996
I can't stand the Chevy's and my interest in Ford muscle cars are gone

Not a fan of Dodge

The only other thing that I really liked when I joined a local meetup was a Jag F type. These are really, really nice

Driving a used richman car gets you probably more shitfaces than driving a new really well equipped "luxury" sedan.

Everyone will see the car is kind of old but not a classic car yet, so everyone will see you didn't have enough money but want to look like you're a rich faggot.

If you get a new car that fits your budget, you will look actually like you have some monies.

>>17378001
you don't have to live in it you stooge. its a storage/shop/fuck around property.

>>17378018
You sound like my brother, he has been trying to get me to invest in property..

>>17378011
>so everyone will see you didn't have enough money but want to look like you're a rich faggot

Not really about money is it, just really want something fun right now. I have a fast car, but could really use something new since I don't have a family and just work all the time....

>>17377968
the fact it is not 150000+ means it has the notoriously faulty f1 gearbox and will continue to depreciate until the day Ferrari stops making v8s. for that money you can buy a modern faster car with possibly a warranty and faster.

>B-but MUH FERRARI

go for it if all you care if about muh brand prestige and if all you want is a garage queen.

>>17378029
>You sound like my brother, he has been trying to get me to invest in property..

your brother is a smart man

>I have a fast car, but could really use something new since I don't have a family and just work all the time...

yeah. buy a goddamn shop for yourself. no matter what happens with the cars, you will never get tired of having a shop where you can go and fuck off, wrench on shit, or just look at your collection.

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>>17377982
Get a manual 16/17 Chevy ss

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Buy snek.

>>17377968
gt350 nuff said

>>17377972
he washed it with antibacterial soap

i like this thread

why shouldn't i buy a 911?

https://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/6173286922.html

>>17377968
>83k on a 14 year old supercar
no thank you

>>17378111
Because the IMS will shit itself and you'll be stuck with a $15K repair bill.

>>17378128
can't you replace them though?

>>17378128
Cheaper if you replace the IMS/RMS before they go bad

>>17378147
Yeah, they can be done when you do a clutch job. But even if you avoid that, there's a raft of other garbage that can go wrong with the 996, along with a generally cruddy interior, build quality, etc. It's not well-regarded for a good reason.

>buying something extremely painful to drive legally on all public roads in the United States

>>17378029
What fast car do you already have? Will you sell it to make room for said Fezza?

>>17378078
This. All snek will increase in value in 2yrs. Good investment while having "fun"/shitting yourself

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>>17378078
>>17378062
>>17378092
>>17378000
>OP wants a ferrari
>Buy this turd instead

>>17377968
whats your investment portfolio like? personally i wouldnt buy a car like this unless i could afford it solely off my investment income but thats just me. im up 10% this week alone and that 80k could have made me 8k. still hard to choose a ferrari over that.

If you can't afford 2 Italian supercars, you can't afford 1. Get a slightly used 911 Carrera or a Cayman GTS instead.

>>17378261
Yea its increasing this year, by a lot and I'm sitting on cash right now
This would be my fun money, I still have investments that don;t get touched and they grow in other ways

I want to enjoy myself a little bit

> investment portfolio

Do you use a professional service, you do it yourself or your company helps set it up?

You're scared faggot you will never buy a car that badass

>>17378261
>im up 10% this week alone
Across the board? No you're not. I don't know what metric you think you're measuring weekly growth, but you're not making 10% every 7 days.

If you are, get a loan and enjoy being a billionaire in a few years.

430s aren't too bad on maintenance, timing chain instead of belt so major service is much lighter. That one is for sure an F1 so you will eventually have a clutch failure, F1 actuators go out a lot, convertible top mechanism failures, sticky interior, other than that they are solid cars.

>>17378283
well i have a 401k with my company, but all my own shit is in robinhood. pretty diversified port but the bulk is in tesla which is up 70% in the last 6 months alone. holding that for long term though to retire off of.

>>17378293
see >>17378305
tesla is making me rich atm. also holding some nice ETFs and high dividend stocks and about 50% in other markets to prevent me from going broke worst case. dumping about 2k into tesla every month as i earn it and laughing all the way to the bank.

>>17378305
>>17378316
So you're just retarded. nevermind.

Volatility is a thing, you should probably look into it and do some of that math you told your teacher you were never going to use.

>>17378326
sure. this week was an outlier because i bought huge on the dip late monday morning. but ive seen crazy steady growth this year. im banking on tesla being the next google. i might be wrong, but if im not ill be stinking rich by 40.

>>17378305
>pretty diversified
>70% into a newer electric car manufacturer who loses money on each car sold

It all checks out, no problems here

>>17378342
70% of my port isnt in tesla, tesla is up 70% over the last 6 months. reading will help you out in life, you should learn how to do it.

>>17378244
>14 year old Ferrari for $30k more
>better than a brand new car that's so simple there's nothing that can go wrong
The Ferrari is gonna need service in the thousands of dollars every year. For the cost of the ferrari he could have a Chevy SS, a supercharger kit, and enough money to keep the car running for the rest of his life. All the SS is gonna a need is 8 quarts of oil and a filter every 5k miles, rear tires depending on how you drive it, and gas.

Sounds a lot better to me than a high strung, fragile exotic car that costs more than it's worth in maintenance every few years.

>>17378351
Fuck I cashed out all my rh and atarted investing in crypto (stupid gains) but feel like Tesla will be worth thousands in the future about to start using that as a extra little savings account

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>>17377968
$83k is steep for a car that's been farted in for 15 years, especially an ugly one like the f430

A brand new C7 grand sport costs less and is better in every way.

>>17378244
>wanting a (((Ferrari)))

>>17378360
do you use anything for crypto investing or are you literally just buying and selling the currency itself?

dont take my advice cause i could be wrong but im fully expecting tesla to take over the world and im in for the ride. too many times ive said 'damn i should have bought bitcoins' or 'damn i should have bought apple/google/amazon'. sick of playing the shoulda/coulda/woulda game and im going with my gut on tesla.

>>17378366
I don't want to go the Chevy route

Why no love for the R8 or the F-type?

>>17378366
>punch it
>go into limp mode
>die

Pass

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>>17378377
>not diversifying your portfolio

stay poor faggot

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>>17377968
Why not save yourself the maintenance headaches and go with an F-Type instead?

>>17378388
gtxi, atvi, ea, spy, luv, t, main, bep, sdiv are my non-tech holdings making up 50% of my port. oh, and of course some rad for dem lotto ticket merger riches.

>>17378409
The r8 is really nice and worth the money

Have an interesting story about it so that's why I'm interested in them

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And this is why I hate automotive commentators on the Internet. Nearly every auto site I go to is just filled with fucking poorfags, stancefags, and drivefags who don't understand anything about what a car actually is. A car is a fashion statement. You buy a car because it's desirable and you want to be seen as desirable.

You're not buying a goddamn DODGE. You're not buying a shitty fucking NISSAN. You're not looking to get a BMW like every other half-successful human being on the planet. You want le Ferrari.

OP, buy that damn Ferrari. Drive it every week. If you're worried about maintenance, learn how to pamper it and make sure you never take it to the local Wal-Mart.

>>17378010
Do it, you can't do much better than this if that is all the case. This will be the experience of a lifetime

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>>17378353
>He drives a chevy
Vs
>He drives a ferrari

Its a no brainer

>>17378375
The f430 is a great car

>>17378388
Lol

IF you're buying an old Ferrari you are signing up for extremely high running costs, dont think you can just pay ~80k and be on your way.

Secondly, the F430 is in a crappy spot right now. Too young to be classic like the 355 and anything older, too cheap and entry level to be considered a super rich person's car like a 488 (and still 458).

>>17377996
it's not even a supercar, it's the basic bitch V8 Ferrari convertible.

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>>17378504
You can put Holden badges on it. Which it should have been in the first place, really.

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>>17378558
Oh wow, a holden, why can't cringelords like you understand the reason why ferraris are desireable?

>>17377968
You can get a Gee Tee Aru for the same price

>>17378366
>better in every way
C'mon man.
It's a Chevy, ffs

>>17378561
Because Ferraris are objectively garbage to own. They're eye candy and hurrdurrring machines only.

>>17377968
Buy it. Then bring it back with bread pics for us to see.

Don't be a poor. Show us what you can swing, bigshot.

>>17378625
I will but, it wont be a Ferrari and you won't know who I am but it will be a high ticket item

night fellas, I know my options

>>17378650
So a porsche without the smoker's package?
>>>>>17378574

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>>17378613
Stop being a retarded GM fangirl, GM fangirl

>>17378688
Opinion discarded

>>17377968
Curious as to why you would want one.

Like, how is your life going to be different as a Ferrari owner? What does owning one mean to you?

>>17378613
>They're eye candy and hurrdurrring machines only
A guy who drove a Ferrari banged your gf?

>>17378305
>>17378316
I just had to stop by and say you are absolutely fucking retarded betting so much on Tesla especially after little baby Musk got his panties pissed on by us pulling out of the Paris accord. You better reconsider your portfolio before he loses his MASSIVE government subsidies that are the only thing keeping Tesla as a company.

>>17378717
>how is your life going to be different as a Ferrari owner?
Well, you wind up driving a fuckton more.
I took mine out every day for months after I got it.

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>>17378613

>>17378804
Nah, he isn't.
Unless he means garbage in the sense that you're basically agreeing to get raped on parts and service, which you are if you buy one.
The combination of brand prestige (earned or not) along with restricted supply ensures they can pretty much charge whatever they want.
If I owned the brand, I imagine I'd do something similar.

>>17378797
I suppose I can understand driving for the sake of driving.

I don't know anyone who drives an extreme status symbol car. I just kind of assumed it was more of a "look at me I own a Ferrari" kind of silliness.

Not that having people envy you isn't fun (I enjoyed it on my Ducati), it just isn't something I would spend that much for alone.

>>17378000
That's the beauty of the world getting spammed with supercars.

The depreciation on McLarens is shocking too.

>>17378837
>extreme status symbol car
Where are you drawing the line on something like this?
When a car crosses a certain price it becomes a status symbol, and then a higher price turns it into an "extreme" one?

>>17378876
A Mercedes or Beemer is a status symbol car.

Ferraris, Lamborghinis, etc are the extreme.

>>17378823
Tell me, why do you buy a Ferrari?
>is it comfortable to drive?
No. typically i can't even hear myself think even when you're near one
>Reliable? Affordable?
No and no. you'll probably spend more time under the hood then behind the wheel.
>Name one Ferrari you can drive in the snow
You're basically paying for a car (that unless you live somewhere without snow) you can only use for 6 months at best
>don't forget meme tax because the car wasn't expensive enough to start
No Seriously you buy a Ferrari for one reason and one reason only
>to show off.

>>17378893
>is it comfortable to drive?
yes
>Reliable?
model dependent, like most manufacturers.
>Affordable?
as mentioned, no.
>Name one Ferrari you can drive in the snow
It's like there are whole parts of this country where it never snows. crazy huh

>>17378920
FF did pretty well in the snow senpai

>>17378920
Comfortable if you like loud things.
Stupid people like loud things by the way..
>It's like there are whole parts of this country where it never snows. crazy huh
guess you just decided that things inside parenthesis don't need to be read.

>>17377968
There's no such thing as a 2003 F430 Spider.

The first F430s were 2005 model years.

Also the other two photos are of completely different cars.

>>17378993
>loud things
it's really only obnoxiously loud if you change the exhaust to make it that way purposely.
>(unless you live somewhere without snow)
what kind of half ass argument is that?
"that convertible top works great, unless you live somewhere it rains?"

>>17379096
Like streets don't get plowed too.

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>>17378100

>>17379096
I question if you read my post at all
i'm saying that the snow argument only works if you live somewhere with snow. and is void if you don't live somewhere with snow.

>>17379145
i read it, just pointing out that an argument that doesn't apply to a gigantic percentage of people isn't much of an argument.
why include it? without it you've still got a layman's opinion on reliability and comfort, plus an observation that they're expensive, which is stipulated by everyone.

>>17377968
You can buy low mileage 2015 porsche 911 for less money

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>>17378893

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>>17378893

>>17377992
drift car
civic

pick one you autismo

>>17377968
>tell me why I shouldn't do it
You'll be the center of attention everywhere you go in it. That may be something you're looking for, but it would annoy the hell out of me. People will approach everywhere and ask what you do for a living.

I'd at least get one in black or grey, Ferraris look a lot better when they're understated (if that even possible).

>>17377982
>want something new
>buying an old Ferrari

Don't come here for exotic car advice. Ask people who actually know what they're talking about. 95% of the people here are poor idiots.

Why shouldn't you do it? There are so many components on any Ferrari that are prone to fail and because it's a Ferrari, it's going to be extraordinarily expensive to fix and for no good reason other than because Ferrari. Just because you can buy one doesn't mean to can afford to own one. If you can afford to own one and the idea of potentially spending 5 figures on repairs won't keep you up at night, then go for it.

Also prepare for people to drive dangerously around you. Every 18 year old will want to drive along side you and record your car with their cell phone.

>>17380022
Well, holy shit.
Everything in this post is true, which tells you that it's a car suited for very few people.

>>17379716
>You'll be the center of attention everywhere you go in it


Already the center of attention with my current vehicle and not rally a fan of the unneeded attention however I try not to pay attention to them and keep driving/in my own zone.

Also I can upgrade and throw some money at my own car but it would be a lot tougher to balance everything, I was thinking of bringing up the HP/tq to 500+ but that causes other issues if your suspension/drive train isnt built to handle that much hp

I'd like to just settle for something newish and fun

>>17380353
Old luxury screams "I can't really afford luxury" you'll look like a poser as well.

>>17380386
Oh bullshit.
When I see a Countach, I don't assume the guy who owns it couldn't afford a Huracan.
People do have models they like, you know.

>>17380413
Everytime I see a gallardo that's exactly what I assume. Some almost wealthy asshole trying to flaunt his money with a second rate super car.

>spending 84k on an exotic a $4000 10 year old sportsbike can beat

wew

>>17378305
>tesla is a good buy

Dude, sell now while you can. That company hasn't even made money yet and requires constant cash injections. tesla was valued higher than GM while moving 1% of what gm sells. Musk even says it is massively over valued

pretty bitter in this thread lol

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>>17380424
Wait, so those people who bought the last manual Ferrari's (F430's) were really just poor fucks who couldn't afford 488's with the paddle shifters they didn't want?

>>17380386
I only assume that if there's a basketball behind the wheel.

>>17380553
...or a kid.

I see someone older than 30 behind the wheel I just assume it's a car they like.

Gallardos always seemed like babbys first lamb. Tryhard rich tier.

>>17380564
Yeah, that's why I don't own an island in the Caribbean.
It's too "babby's first island" for me. I want something valuable.

>>17380580
Plenty of white trash in Belize doing exactly that.

Bitches isnt there more about the F430 besides the richcar brand meme and the looks?

The N/A V8 has ultimate responsiveness and revs like a dream plus sound-carpet as fuck and the F1 gearbox kicks in so hard and direct it isnt even funny and youll get neck hurts.

Yes there are other fast cars as well, but F430 delivers speed like getting you kicked down stairs.

>>17380633
I'll take the 360.
Almost as fast (10 mph slower for top speed, 0.8 seconds slower for 0-60), and they didn't have to carve the fucking model number on the side view mirror.

>>17377982

fuck off normie

>>17377992
you dont need something really fast for it to be mind blowing
but since you have cash to throw around if you want a really nice grocery getter that can drift even stock import a 2.0 DOHC Ford Sierra, they're fucking A

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>>17380633
Same price, just as rare, NA V8, a tranny that won't snap your neck, a new car warranty and a new car smell.

>>17380729
I have something already, I've made my decision and will be going with what will make me happy

Should be picking it up first week or July

btw, I would never buy a Ferrari I just needed some opinions but I'm fine with my project car and will be throwing money at it while picking up another car

Still gotta save something for next year so buying expensive shit is over rated, I'm looking at property next year and picking up my car in a few weeks

>>17378893
the new ferrari ff 2017 is 4wd

get a q60 or g35 instead, you can thank me later.

>>17380838
and a very punchable face

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don't be silly OP

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>>17381343

>>17380838
and one f the ugliest grills ever

>>17380838
it's fuck ugly and as japanese as a honda civic

>>17377968
if you have another 80k sitting around for repairs go for it

>>17378244
1. It's more expensive to own a ferrari. The average costs of repair per year is extrodinary.

2. It's older, has usage therefore you have no idea what it's been through. A new viper srt10 is $85k msrp and can be had for less since they sit on lots for too long.

3. Viper would have a warranty. Ferrari doesnt.

4. Dodge actually gave a shit about their viper line (even tho they axed it) and does suffer from most of the issues that other dodges too. Viper are pretty damned reliable.

>>17381351

>>17381359

>>17381310

>hating the most beautiful Nipponese car ever made just to "fit in" on an anonymous My Little Pony cartoon image-sharing web forum

Why?

>>17381504
>My Little Pony cartoon image-sharing web forum
assmad LS owner detected

>>17381504
>white knighting the ugliest modern nip car available to fit in with weebs and ricers on a Tibetan throat singing repository

>>17381510
If I owned an LS the last thing I would be is mad. I'd be too relaxed to be anything other than comfyas fuck.

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>>17381411
>I drive a Dodge
>I drive a Ferrari

guess which one sounds better

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>>17377968

You could get:

>Alfa Romeo 4C
>Lotus Evora
>Lotus Esprit
>Caterham
>R34 Nissan Skyline GTR
>R35 Nissan GTR
>Jaguar F-Type
>Audi R8
>Lamborghini Gallardo
>Porsche 911

and you really want this shitheap worst newish Ferrari? and that's not even considering a ridiculously tuned Evo etc

get a 4C/Evora/GTR...

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>>17378100

>>17381572
>audi r8
>a fuccing german rebadged starter lambo is better than an authentic italian slightly preowned exotic

Fuck off.

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>>17381697
Not knowing audi own lamborghini. At least all the buttons are in the right places for that price range.

>>17378244
Its just a fucking F430
>real slim C
Oh, its a nigger

>>17381697
>ignoring every other car on that list
>ignoring Alfa Romeo 4C

I mean, at least it's an F430 and not a 360 Modena. If it was an F430 Scuderia hard top, I'd probably choose it, but a 2003 convertible I might go for the German soulless fast thing.

>>17381545
>I drive a Dodge Viper
>I drive a Ferrari F430

The viper sounds a hell of a lot better. To both normies and enthusiasts.

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>>17381952
>The viper sounds a hell of a lot better.
Get real.

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>>17378366
>and is better in every way.

do it

>>17377968
The fact that it's slower than a V6 Camaro is one reason. Hell even a smart car is faster if the Ferrari sits on your driveway broken down.

>>17381504
have you seen the front on that thing? What's the actual point of it looking like that? What aesthetic does it achieve other than muh random angles?

>>17381952

>I drive a Ferrari Viper

Couple of badges and you have the best of both worlds, to normies at least.

>>76150393
>The viper sounds a hell of a lot better.

this much delusion lol

>>17381411
>The average costs of repair per year is extrodinary.
I've owned mine for almost a year and haven't paid for shit except gas.
Annual service is coming up, we'll see how bad they try to screw me.

Save up more and buy a 458, better driving car.

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>>17377968

Because you shouldn't?
Fuel consumption will be shit, any scratch on it will totally ruin it and good luck not spending hundreds in little repairs since you can't exactly mantain a Ferrari in a DIY way.

Go buy a C-class with that money, OP. They look gorgeous and will give you the luxury you're looking for.

>>17382193
>>17382665
No delusion. Quite literally, it sounds better to say "I own a viper" than "I own a Ferrari". People on /o/ won't get this because all you fags do is sit on this board all day and shitpost.

When you say "I own a ferrari", all people wanna know is what you do for a living. When you say "I own a viper", people wanna know more about YOU.

Tho that's only a small part of it. A new viper will come with a warranty, won't have a mystery of history behind it due to previous owners, has a massive aftermarket support, and as long as you aren't an introverted fuckhead who foes nothing but sit on his computer all day, will actually be engaged in conversation with other enthusiasts face to face.

>>17377968
because it's stupid and a waste of money, a new Audi TT RS is quicker

>>17378451
>a car is a fashion statement
>LOOK AT ME I HAVE MONEY

I literally do not have a reaction image suitable for what my face has contorted into. I've owned quite a few vehicles and my favorite BY FAR was my beat to shit 85 Chevy S10. it was 3 different colors, the floor was rotting out, and the tires were mismatched. The engine was anemic as fuck and the shitty 4 speed manual had issues going in reverse. I paid $500 for it and got $1700 back when some cunt blew through a stop sign on her phone and wrecked it. And I'm STILL fucking mad about it. Because that truck was fun as hell to drive.

>60 mph pothole? lolwhocares
>speedbumps? Lol what are those?
>sliding into a ditch = airtime on the way out
>battery strap broke and the battery welded itself to the hood? $15 dollar voltage regulator there all better.
>tailgate larch broke? baling twine solves everything.

>>17378220
for you

>>17378380
That's the z06.
No supercharger, no limp mode.

>>17378451
>a car is a fashion statement

yeah, if you're a soulless fuckwad.

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>>17382749
>it sounds better to say "I own a viper" than "I own a Ferrari".

nope, you are delusional

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>>17382960
>implying some faggot who spends all his time masturbating to loli porn online would understand even an iota of car culture.

>>17382749
What conversations with strangers are you regularly having where you discuss what car you own before you talk about what you do for a living? Why is it important that your car is somehow impressive to this imaginary person (as if anyone actually cares)? Sounds like you are creating some weird scenarios in your mind that never actually happen.
> People on /o/ won't get this because all you fags do is sit on this board all day and shitpost.
Yet you are the expert even though you've never touched either car, got it.

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>>17382971
stay BTFO

>>17382907

Extreme shitboxes are God's gift to man

>>17378451
except anyone who knows cars knows when someone buys a mid to low level exotic like these F1 box pieces of shit, or a gallardo, etc. im not impressed by some tool thinking their car is a piece of rolling jewlerry just because it gets them laid by soulless bar hags every friday and saturday night down at mr rinkum dinkums alcohol and drug club.

if im buying a lambo or ferrari its either gonna be a 90s classic or a brand new million dollar fighter jet machine. fuck these 10 year old slushbox pieces of shit. you could take that 80k and buy a lotus evora like the dude said above and it wont have some jew doctors ass sweat in the seat.

>>17382749
if your life world view is actually like this kys.

when my commander marches us over the horizon into your home town after the start of the day of rope, its normies like you who will be up against the wall first

a car isnt a piece of jewlerry like some of you think, if it is, it shouldnt be, and if you think like that you are basically a 100% goyim cuck

anyways convertible models are for total dorks

you sacrifice performance and handling for getting some wind in your hair

if you want a convertible buy a mustang or something

if you want an exotic supercar it shouldnt have a soft fuckin roof which compromises its handling

>>17381697
>a fuccing german rebadged starter lambo is better than an authentic italian slightly preowned exotic
Yes. By far.

>>17378400
>maintenance headaches
>Jaguar
I take it you've never worked on a Jag? They're total cunts to work on and everything is expensive

>>17383089
>>17383106
Too gay;didn't read

You both chug cum and enjoy rock hard cock inside your sphincter

>>17383106
/thread

>>17383089
>alcohol and drug club
You don't go out much, do you?

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>>17383106
>anyways convertible models are for total dorks

delet

>>17383149
those are both me, and im not gonna feel bad by some anon insulting me by calling me gay when this same dude needs a car to boost his social standing

if you cant get pussy driving a beat up 1992 miata and need to rely on a $100,000-$250,000 maintenance hog to get laid, well... just kys.

since when did admitting you need nice things to get a girl become accepted? dudes like you should be made fun of, derided, spit on.

90% of the people who own luxury exotic supercars dont know how to fucking push them to the limit, and thats what these cars are made for. OP is considering buying one of the worst ferrari models ever produced, theres a reason they are so cheap and they will never be collectible especially with that bullshit automatic transmission.

can you imagine spending 80k on a supposed performance vehicle and knowing its a compromised piece of shit? there are a hundred other cars id consider, before this shit. hes not going to race the car and hes not going to use it to slide around corners on some crazy touge, hes just gonna use it to drive in traffic to the gym or the restaraunt or the grocery store and hope some vapid whore notices it and it gets him some pussy

its pathetic. go to vancouver in BC and see a million piece of shit gallardos being driven around by people who really have no interest in cars or tuning at all.

>>17383179
I think your problem is that you can't see any other reason to buy a car like that than status or acceptance.
But that really indicates a lack of logical ability on your part, more than any insight into this guy's motivations.

>>17378920
Mate even in Texas we have ice, the only places you aren't dealing with it are sub-tropical in climate which means that you're trading 4 months of fun out for 12 months of rust.

>>17378000
>75k car loses 50% value
>200k car loses 55% value
>MY FUCKING GOD WHAT IS THIS

I am not seeing the issue here.

>>17377968

because a e55 will blow its doors off

>>17383432
>even in Texas we have ice
not in LA
fuck that shit

>>17378244
Im totally like german cars, but i would pic snek over any """""""italian_sports_car""""""

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>>17381697
>F430
>SLIGHTLY preowned EXOTIC

>>17382232
Not a meme you are just a delusional child with a conformation bias and hive mind mentality.

>>17382960
Literally your counter argument is "nu uh" with some loli shit? Please curbstomp yourself, you mouth breathing subhuman.

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MURICA

>>17384339
>electric
traitorous faggot

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tell me why EYE shouldn't do it!!

>>17377968
Because I just bought it

>>17380442
This, you missed the Tesla hype when their stocks were down to $180ea after the rocket explosion.

>>17377968
>can I afford this when it was new?
>no?
>i shouldn't buy this.

Why are Americans so instant on buying cars they can't afford?

>>17384527
Their whole economy depends on it. They buy things they can't afford outright. I don't get why they need new cars.

>>17384538
capitalism lets you buy things you normally can't afford. how is that a bad thin you idiot? think about it. imagine you have a family and want to give them a home. do you think every shmuck working 9 to 5 has a quarter mil for a house? no.

>>17384554
Houses shouldn't cost that much in the first place considering the most common method in America is using fucking drywall

>>17384563
>what is labour

you think they just 3D print it with drywall or something m8?

>>17384569
Drywall construction is fast and relatively cheap. Build houses out of bricks then talk, you fat fucks

>>17380723
This

>>17384578
drywall has to be placed using the same precision as brick, the only corner you cut is material/handling which isn't going to make a dent in the labour cost.

>>17384578
Why the fuck would you use brick? Are you afraid of the big bad wolf or something? Have fun living in some dingy brick dungeon with shitty wiring, plumbing and insulation.

>>17384595
have fun being white lmao mosquelets.

>>17384611
>le 56% face

>>17384587
Hiring illegals from the Home Depot parking lot for $5 per hour would lead one to believe that someone is price gouging on home buying.

>>17384587
Drywall doesn't need to be hung precisely, and I don't even fucking know why you kids are comparing drywall to bricks.
They're used for two entirely different things.
Residential bricks in the US after 1960 are 99% of the time completely aesthetic. You're going to have a traditional wood frame behind it on a foundation.
Brick work is extremely expensive, both materials and labor. Even if your house is made of brick you're still going to frame walls indoors and dry wall them, or if it's an old house you'll have lathe and plaster, which is labor intensive.

>>17384700
You're an idiot, the vast majority of finish work done by Mexicans is done on fix and flips and torn out by the next buyer.
Mexicans can roof, some mexicans can finish drywall. Mexicans cannot do concrete, brick, stone, or tile work to save their lives.
Concrete and brick is usually done by white excons, and stone and tile is done by slavis immigrants.
There are many mexican painters out there, but using them is a huge mistake, alcoholic whites are the best painters.

>>17384757
bullshit my mom used one and he fucked up her corners so bad.

>>17384766
Mexicans do the majority of drywall work in the US.
Some are good, some are bad.
People don't like to believe it, but you get what you pay for.
When you see a Mexican hanging corner bead with screws, a suspicious amount of new tools, a mexican who is severely overweight, a mexican who brings his wife to work, or a mexican who does not bring plastic, turn them away.

Also anyone who is any good at drywalling shouldn't be using a sander. If you know how to drywall you can skim well enough that a wetsponge will do all the sanding you need.

Read what I wrote one more time
>some mexicans can finish drywall
Mexican culture is objectively trash when it comes to quality of work and pride in accomplishment.

>>17378353
My. Fucking. God.

All you people with, "Buy a >>insert random fanboy jizz covered turd<< instead and you'll have money left over to rule the world"

GTFO...he's asking about a Ferrari...not asking for the car you have leveled up on Need for Speed 32.

As for the Ferrari....yearly maintenance is steep but that's every Ferrari, and if you take the plunge, go ahead and budget for the F1 rebuild. This car is cheap enough that it's going to need it, if it doesn't already. Also, the interior has been mentioned....take care of it with the right products, and you'll be ok.

Wonderful cars, but like most Italian cars, in general, you cannot skimp, AT ALL, on any maintenance.

>>17380435
>sportbike

This is a car forum, biker trash. And maybe he doesn't want to "beat" people on a public road, where he's not supposed to "race"

It's that attitude that leave a biker a week here plastered on the road, and personally...I think they deserve it for driving like the road is their personal racetrack...

>>17382983
Ask anyone who's owned a Ferrari. I can, and did before even posting that. Why would I own a car from a brand I know I can't afford to maintain? That's dumb logic right there. As for the Viper, that an obtainable dream car but I don't have $85k to just drop on a damned car.

When you say you own a Ferrari, all people give a shit about is knowing what you do for a living. That's it. You can ask ANY Ferrari owner this worth their salt and that's the question you will get the majority of the time.

Regardless, that's all small compared to everything else I pointed out. The Viper is easier to maintain, will come with a warranty, won't gut you in repair bills, and you won't have to worry about what the previous owner did.

I'd you want a burning money pit, yeah, go buy a used ferrari. Your furneral. Cars like Ferraris should only ever be bought new or used with literally EVERYTHING documented with it. Otherwise, you're just buying into a mystery. A very possible, very expensive mystery.

>>17378366
>is better in every way
Well it's definitely better at overheating

>>17385383
>When you say you own a Ferrari, all people give a shit about is knowing what you do for a living
I think you're overestimating how often this occurs.
Friends> Know what you do
Neighbors> Know what you do
Random people on the street> If you don't tend to park the car, just drive it, they don't really have the opportunity to ask.
If you're referring to the people who ask you shit before the light turns green, ok, but that's hardly a hassle.

>>17377968
You only live once op, do it!

go for it OP, they're just jealous. buy a shirt that says " I have a ferrari and you don't"

>>17377968
This car is known as "The Idiot's Ferrari". Buy a 458 instead.

>>17377982

So you currently have 167,000 USD just laying around?

>being so bad with money you don't even realize the cost of an Italian supercar is double when you calculate maintenance. Also when you resell it you'll get half of what you paid, while the dealer jacks it back up.

Good luck, you obviously won't have the money for very long at this rate, kek.

You could buy a used V10 Audi R8 for that kind of cash, OP is an inbred guido.

>>17387198
Not like he has any to begin with

>>17377968
First of all, do you have safe and secure place to store it? Is it going to be collectors condition. If so, are you ready to babysit it, wash everyday, get polished and cleaned each week? Or you gonna just drive it? Then get a proper sports car, instead of exotic.

>>17387285
>safe and secure place to store it
you mean, like a garage?
>wash everyday
why wash a car everyday? especially when you don't drive it everyday?
>get polished and cleaned each week
again, why? unless you're entering contests every week, this is pointless.

>>17387204
But then you're just driving a rebadged VAG trash

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