Cheaper Nissan GT

because the 370z exist

>>17340538
Well just get a 370z or an Infinity coupe if you want that

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Why do you think that the GTR is the last vehicle listed on Nissan's website? It's their least sold car, most sales (unfortunately) are from crossovers

>Also implying that the 370Z doesn't exist

>>17340543
>>17340544

Nissan Z car has always been around next to the Nissan Skyline.

The Infinity Coupe look like a limousine, not a sports car at all.

In stead of building the gt-r out of a normal sedan they finally were given a big enough budget to make the gt-r a standalone vehicle design so it could be as badass as possible, without the constraints of the normal sedan's design or production constraints.

>>17340538
Doesn't the Q60 trims fill that void?

>>17340538
It's called the Infiniti Q50 and Q60 you retard.

You're asking the wrong question. The question you should be asking is why the Q50 and Q60 are such dogshit compared to the 90s GTS-T variants.

>>17340582
>q60
>400hp

>GT variants
>sub 200hp

>>17340538
90's Japan was a huge market bubble. Everyone over there spent crazy money to build crazy shit and people bought it.

That crashed.

Now we get what you see today.

Because a Camaro would be faster.

>>17340593
t. GM fangirl

they do tho... theres base trim mid trim and nismo. theres about a 80k disparity between them

Why would they make something just as pigfat and soulless as the GTR, but slower? The AWD system is the whole point of the car.

>>17340614
>pigfat and soulless
still faster than muh corvette

>>17340624
Glad to know an AWD car that costs 80,000 more barely beats a rwd car

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>>17340624
this will cause trigger

>>17340632
still faster m8

>>17340637
and a 918 and laferrari is faster than all said cars...

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also out accelerates muh muscle car with a 10+ year old platform

>>17340648
this argument is between the gt-r and the corvette so your point is null

>>17340651
why are you going to ignore that it has awd? turbo autism

>>17340661
so you admit GM can't compte?

>>17340658
the argument being that it costs 80,000 more, literally a whole nother z06. you dont compare two dissimilarly priced cars together like that.
>a p1 can beat a gtr!!!
well yeah, its in a completely different price bracket

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>>17340668
umm sweetie, a z07 is 110k

Infiniti G37 fills that void does it not?

370bhp, comes in awd or rwd with a 6mt

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>>17340674

>>17340538

Because it's a fat and heavy car that needs a V6 and 4WD and 2 turbo's to move

>>17340674
I know I said z06 you illiterate retard

>>17340684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5F18o8xayA
>105k

>>17340697
a z06 is even slower

>>17340706
>he cant drive a rwd manual car

i feel sorry for you.

>>17340591
emission/safety regs did the most damage out of anything tbqh

>>17340555

This making it unsaleable to the original audience the skyline series used to appeal to.

>Legendary mid range sports vehicle of yore, owned by regular people.
>Let's make the new version an unaffordable super car that super car buyers don't want, because they would rather buy a Porsche.

>>17340714
>he preffers the slower car

I feel sorry for you

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>>17340634
cute desu. interracial is the purest form of love

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>>17340675
Basically this.

Can make 300hp+ to the wheels NA, even in AWD, with very little effort.

Even has styling queues from the GTR.

there is really no reason to buy any car other than a Miata or Tesla Model S

>>17340634
Why would a person of color debase himself by dating a white devil?

To all these faggots saying Infinity Qxx or or whatever are retarded. The lite-GTR would need to at least LOOK like a GTR just like the GTS and GTS-Ts of the 90s did.

The 370z is the closest looking car to the R35 and that makes it the lite version of the GTR.

>>17340582
>The question you should be asking is why the Q50 and Q60 are such dogshit compared to the 90s GTS-T variants.

>Emissions standards
>"""Safety""" standards
>Woman-oriented market

>>17340555
That gets rid of it's character though.
Race cars based on regular cars are best.

>>17341063
pig fat

>>17341063
It's literally called a Skyline in Japan.

>>17341117
Yes, but the GT-R is not.

The lower model skylines were not "lower versions of the GT-R". The GT-R was just the top model of the skyline. When the GT-R branched off of the skyline platform, they didn't have base models that it took a platform from.

What you should really be asking is "why is the gtr just not a g37 with AWD and twin turbos" but that's a stupid question.

>>17341117
And the GT-R isn't a Skyline.

What's your point?

>>17340538
Because that'd compete with the Z. Manufacturers competing with themselves is what caused the 2008 crash.

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>>17340538
I wish they would

the corvette would actually have some competition

>>17340538
Why is there no new Silvia? We need something to show toyota/subaru that you can sell a turbo rwd sports coupe in the entry level.

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>>17341133

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>>17341120
the GTS and GTS-T were Skylines

Because Ghosn sucked massive amounts of donkey cock an hour and his successor won't do anything different

>>17340555
>without the constraints of the normal sedan's design or production constraints.
>still make it weigh 4000lbs

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>>17340624
except no one said anything about the vette till you brought it up

>>17340801
No homo but you are now my inspo.
Let me see that butt.

>>17341190
Yes, but the R35 GT-R is not a Skyline.

>>17341351
that's not me silly

>>17341663
Oh, well do you have more? Need that inspo.

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>>17341671
bara men are the best men

>>17342132
My whole life I've been told by most people that I am a bear, even in football. Feel in love with that bara mode and strive for it.

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>>17342141
>i've been told i am a bear
post pics daddy

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>>17340651
2.7 LAWL grandma. Try 2.1

>>17341165
Wrong vette cuck

>>17342148
Nah.
Wrong board, no confidence at the moment, and I'm fucking chubby as fuck. Been very lazy and not as muscular anymore.

I post my interracial ass from time to time on /soc/ in the chubby threads.

>>17342141
Take the gay shit to reddit, faggot

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>>17342155
wow you're a faggot. way to wimp out.
>>17342158
fuck off homophobe

>>17342158
Fuck off nigger.

>>17342165
Find me one day nerd.~

everyone who bought a gtr would be pissed because of muh exclusivity

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>>17342167
ill penetrate your boipucci with my bbc. ;^)

>>17340772
>>Let's make the new version an unaffordable super car that super car buyers don't want, because they would rather buy a Porsche.
someone's buying GTRs though, I've seen like 3 or 4 of them commuting within a month

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>>17342182
>Implying you will be ready after I have my bbc in yours.~

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>>17342190
rock hard rn

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>>17342201
Noice

>mfw this convo made my day

>>17340538
Because the current GT-R isn't a hotted up plebmobile like old Skylines were, it's a purpose designed supercar.

Making pleb versions of it would defeat the purpose.

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>>17342150
>can't turn

>>17342153
the c6 is slower than the Nismo

>>17340538

Previous GTRs were the performance versions of the platform, not the other way around.

>>17340538
Personally I would fucking love a new 240sx or silvia but the 370z kinda fills that role I guess?
meh

>>17341236

This exactly.

Illbe impressed when a car like this weighs less than 3300 pounds

>>17343054
I'm much more impressed that such a pigfat car is so fast.

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>>17342150
Tiny ass front wheels make it look like a t-rex lmfao

>>17343240
Americans don't need to go around corners because all of their roads are flat, straight and have a 50mph speed limit.

The infiniti Q series always triggers me because someone I know was driving one got t-boned and got ass raped by the infiniti dealer fixing it.

>>17342603
In what world does turning have to do with being faster?

Btfo

>>17340538
Just get a base model Nismo you poorfag

>>17340538
They would cut into Z car sales

>>17343662
In real life?

>>17341078
Emissions and safety have absolutely nothing to do with it.

Nissan has decided to build a 400+hp Q60 without an LSD. Or a fucking manual/DCT. Because they gave up on trying to compete with BMW. And their EPS is dogshit. And they think that their direct adaptive steering is in any way good.

Why is this board obsessed with Nissan Skylines (or GTR) ?
The cars always looked like shit and none of you faggots can afford it. Was it featured in a popular anime or something and that's why you like it ?

>>17344219

I own an R32 GT-R. People who talk shit about them are just angry that they are posted all the time. It is fun as fuck to drive. It is every bit as good as the memes/hype. I regret nothing. It's a fabulous car and has earned its legend-car status.

>>17344224
R32 means it's an oldass 1990 or something ?
What do you like about it ? How much do you run the 1/4 mile with it ?

>>17344219
it's literally two or three autists who have forced the meme for years

>>17344219
they became a meme because /o/ is full of benchracers and the R35 was cucking everyone in laptimes for a while

>>17340591
Actually the bubble popped in 91, the only reason there were cool cars after that was because manufacturers don't discontinue a product until it has many consecutive years of poor sales.

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>>17340538

If you want to bring everything from the Skyline back you might as well go all the way.

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>>17344242
R32 is 89-94.

>>17344281
meh... can't you afford a modern car with better performances ?

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>>17344286
Such as?

>>17340543
>>17340544
Do they even sell it and is anyone even buying them?

They made a big mistake getting rid of Silvias and concentrating on the Gay-Zs.

>>17344286
This is profoundly shitty bait. Especially because anyone that can afford to maintain and restore an R32 GTR has enough money to throw at a new car. Most R32s are 25k now. A nice one can easily run 40k.

>>17343662
This board just reached a new low

>>17344291
It depends, what's your budget like ?

>>17344309
>Most R32s are 25k now

People are paying 25k US dollar for a 25 y-o 276hp japanese car ? What the fuck ?? You can get a brand-new econobox with a brand new gsxr 1000 for that price

>>17344320
Try looking up what people pay for a 993 Turbo and get back to me. Or 125k for an R34 GTR MNP2

>>17344322
Z-Tune R34 > MNP2

>>17344309
>A nice one can easily run 40k
no

>>17344322
right, but the 4th gen Porsche Turbo is actually a great iconic car, unless your old Skyline.
As for R34 GTR MNP2, I google'd it and apparently it's a 1999 nissan skyline with a purple paint job or something, you most likely know more about it than me

>>17344339
I'm well aware. The Z-Tune is also 500k now.

>>17344341
You're free to believe that. The market value is what determines value though. It's obvious that someone finds these things valuable or they would be cheap.

>>17344340
You don't need to believe me, just check auction values.

http://www.rmsothebys.com/az17/arizona/lots/1989-nissan-skyline-gt-r/1701568

Americlaps have really fucked with the market value of the second generation GT-Rs. I think it's fair to say that if not for the money being thrown around the Nismo parts program for the R32 would've never even gotten off the ground.

>>17340772
I see GTRs pretty frequently, more so than I see recent 911 Turbos.

>>17341107
Unlike the GTR?

>>17344451
that is above and beyond a 'nice one'
auction results for cars like that are kind of irrelevant because they dont represent actual market value, just what an individual is willing to shell out for their personal museum

>>17344465
I'd rather have a 2017 base GT-R than a 2017 base 911 but year after year 911 has outsold them by 10x in the U.S.

>>17340772
Skyline GT-Rs were not cheap.

>>17344480
Look up the auction value of a 4 point R32 GTR in Japan. 26k on average and it goes as high as 33k for 85th percentile.

Once you start getting into the special variants like the VSpec R32s the price goes to the stratosphere. 40k USD is not off the table.

The Japanese are also driving up demand for these cars. It's a nostalgic car for them.

>>17340538
because people would make even more fun of the gtru

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>>17344595
who makes fun of the GTR? Ameridumbs? Porsche fangirls that's just assmad

pure unadulterated assmad

>>17340538
So a new q60 basically

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>>17344496

GTR's were 4.45 million yen in 1990 ($35,600 in 1990 dollars, or $66,000 in 2016 dollars). The current GTR is twice as expensive no matter how you cut it. They could have just developed the GTR off of the current skyline/g37/Q platform like they did with the originals and it would have been 98% as fast at literally half the price.

>>17346407
>98% as fast
then it wouldn't be the ultimate meme car it is today

>>17346407
It is the same fm platform, just with the transmission at the back. It's expensive because it has a hand built engine.

>>17346474
It's expensive because Nissan is artificially inflating the cost with almost yearly changes/redesigns. When you change shit like a front bumper every 2 years the tooling costs add up quick.

>>17346323
Infiniti needs to make the Q60 less shit. By that I mean a DCT and manual options, a proper LSD, no fucking DAS or brake by wire, an unfucked infotainment/interior borrowed from the GTR, and good enough handling/power to truly compete with the M3/M4.

>>17346556
DAS is a $1000 option I don't understand why people sperg about that so much. No LSD sucks for non AWD versions. Brake by wire is here to stay and there is nothing you can do about it, only niche products and low volume manufacturers won't have it from now on.

The engine dynos at 375whp which is enough to compete with a non-GTS M4. Its heavier than the M cars because its not a track monster. You can barely hear the engine even at WOT if you disable the speaker exhaust.

>>17342150

What happens if there's a slight left or right turn?

>>17344291

06' Golf R32 > R32 GTR and they go for about the same price in the US.

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>>17340538
Rwd is the best config. The trouble is weight and Mpg. If youre a manufacturer and you want to meet cafe standards and market your lineup as the most fuel efficient, youll put a dogshit CVT coupled with FWD in all your cars.
If your a badass manufacturer, you'll make that RWD badass car but it'll be soo badass it'll be out of the average persons price range.
If youre trying to please everyone you manufacture a toyota scion f86 and piss off everyone.

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>>17346749
>fwd haldex econobox better than a 6 cylinder rwd based sports car

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>>17346772
You rang?

>>17346604
Even the standard electric assist needs to get better. If Infiniti is going to insist on brake by wire they should be perfecting it so it doesn't feel like dogshit.

LSD is needed even on AWD variants, the GTR has an LSD + ATTESA for a reason.

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>>17340552
It nice to at least have a halo car