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>NO MANUAL

Old people, posers, and benchracers win again. Muh shift times, muh lap times, muh fuel economy.

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/it-looks-like-the-new-toyota-supra-will-be-automatic-only/
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>>17330352
Surely this is a fucking joke.
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>>17330364
It's not surprising. The new supra doesn't target the older fans, Toyota is looking for new buyers. Also, auto only is getting more and more common on high end vehicles.
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>I need an automatic transmission so I can speed down main street 0.0001s faster
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>>17330370
But the Supra has no shortage of old fans. Some of the kids who saw Fast and Furious in 2001 probably have a lot of money now.
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>>17330352
>carthrottle
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>>17330352
I'll laugh even harder if it is slower than the camaro ss
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>>17330402
Benchshitters please go
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Sports cars with manual:
Miata
Vette
Stang
Camaro
R8
911
.... that's it right?
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>>17330421
M2/M3/M4/M6
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That transmission can be outfitted with paddles at least. It's been done before.
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>>17330421
R8 manual died in 2012. You missed

>BRZ/GT86
>Challenger
>Cayman/Boxster
>BMW 2/3/4 series
>WRX/STI
>Abarth 124

inb4 people having shitfits over what is a sports car and what isn't
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Of course. Fucking knew they'd blow it somehow. I just didn't think it would be on something so simple.

Christ on a bike what a bunch of fucking retards.
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>>17330421
BRZ, Challenger, Booster, Cayman, Fiata, >>1733042, and that Hyundai coupe thing.
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At least Mazda won't screw up the new RX-7!

>50 years anniversary passes
>no announcements

Oh, nevermind. Guess I'm buying American.
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>>17330421

VW GTI that can run 11 second quarter miles with just a tune comes with a 6 speed manual
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>>17330487
Hot hatches aren't sports cars.

>11 second quarter with a tune

That's hard fucking bullshit, sorry. I could believe a 12 second quarter (by which I mean 12.99 seconds) but nowhere near 11. I know a guy who can make low/mid 12s in his Mazdaspeed 3, but that has well over 400HP and launch control.
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>yfw that car is toyota bringing back the celica and that's not the new supra at all
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>>17330352
I honestly wasn't expecting much, but I'm still mad.
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>>17330489
He's a vagfag
Don't try to reason with them, they can't cope
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>>17330493
The Celica is the GT86/BRZ.
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>>17330352
Normalfags are the new sports car buyers, and they don't want manual. There is a reason why most high end sports cars only come in automatic only.
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>>17330509
until now
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>>17330526
Look at me. I am the Celica now.
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>>17330514
Even in NA (especially in Canada) manuals outsell autos in Nip sports cars like the Miata/BRZ/WRX/86. The Supra would sell enough manuals that Toyota is losing out on money by not having it.
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>>17330352
what did you expect from a BMW with a Toyota badge
the Supra is well and truly dead, it's never coming back
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>Mazda Yaris
>Subaru 86
>BMW Supra

Honda MR2 and Nissan Celica when? Wait, nobody would trust Nissan with anything.
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>>17330562
Assuming it's using a zf8 up, it's faster than any manual. It still retarded that they don't offer a manual though. It's not like it hurts them by offering a manual.
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>>17330444
>>17330421
>>17330448
Also forgot

>Jaguar F-Type
>a lot of Aston Martins
>literally any Lotus

Basically only Brits and Americans care about stick shifts and Germany and Japan are pushing to make them gone forever.
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>>17330575
A Mazda Yaris sounds [spoiler]pretty fun, actually[/spoiler]
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>>17330385
If those kids wanted a Supra they'd buy the original A80, not this piece of shit
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>Acura NSX
>AWD automatic hybrid
>Toyota Supra
>AWD automatic hybrid

Failure confirmed.
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>>17330352
good. I appreciate a slow manual sports car just as much as the next guy but for next gen hybrid cars it's time you autists moved on.
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>>17330639
they already did, it's called the mazda 2
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Jesus Christ I've given up hope on the Japanese. It's just another piece of shit hybrid automatic. Just like the fucking nsx, hell it looks like it too. What a fuckin failure
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>>17330352
>carthrottle
This is fake news. My dad work at toyota
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The only grounds they have for saying that is this one fucking picture. Of ONE test mule.
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Is the GTR getting much flak for its automatic transmission?
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>>17330709
Loving my 6mt CRZ beater... it can be done, it's just not done. Even easier to do NOW since MB is adopting Honda's mild hybrid system for everything.

Elec motor stuck in between engine and gearbox, just like Honda does in autos and manuals. EASY. But nah... why bother.
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>>17330889
Also, here's the Z4 sister car. With a manual.
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fake news
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>>17330352
HOW MUCH
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>>17330352
>Old people
I thought boomers like manual?
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>>17330620
Part of Japan likes them too.
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toyota needs to make the supra available with manual transmission and make an I6 and call it the 3JZ and everyone will be happy. Is that so damn difficult to do??
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>>17331015
Fuck no, boomers invented and normalized automatics. Having an automatic in the 60's was like having a luxury car with an expensive badge.
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>>17330352
its a modern sports car

it doesnt need old outdated technology just to please some luddites

manual has no place in the modern car world
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>>17331015
Yeah almost every Mx5 and S2K I see has an old fucker driving
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>>17330470
The rotary engine isn't viable anymore. The 16X was a dead-end. Mazda is now banking on getting HCCI to work well so that they don't have to use tarbos, CVTs, and 10 speed automatics like everybody else.
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>>17330421
And the snek.
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>>17330889

This. Let's not get too upset yet boys. I have faith Toyota won't let me down.
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don you have the ability to choose your gears on newer toyotas? i know the camry and tundra has it
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>>17331353
>paddle shifters are just like manuals!

Typical normalfag thinking
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>>17331388
>i wont drive this car because it doesnt have meme transmission
>so what if i can still switch in and out of certain gears, i want more wear items!

typical /o/ thinking
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>>17330352
Dinosaurfags BTFO!
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>>17331405
>autos have fewer wear items and are simpler
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>>17331413
i didnt say simpler homo. what i am saying is paying more money for a cheaper transmission is retarded. fuck you and your manual c10
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>>17330889
Man this interior looks shit, like they just covered the whole thing in school carpet
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>>17330421
Does the Chevy SS count?
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>>17331108
This.
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>>17330385
I bought a mk4 Supra because of F&F1
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>>17330421
>>17330444
370z
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>>17330385
The Japanese don't understand nostalgia. Their industrial culture is all about moving forward, and they miss out on the western attachment to the past
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>>17332532
The GT86/BRZ was "muh nostalgia" the car that only exists because the AE86 existed.

On the other hand, the new NSX has nothing in common with the good one, so maybe you're right
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>>17332541
I was in a land cruiser forum, apparently Toyota can't understand the fascination in the US with restoring/modifying old land cruisers. They have trouble understanding why you would want to buy the latest and greatest one.
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>>17332575
I don't think it's specific to cruisers. It's just the way they look at things.
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Who cares? Manual isn't relevant anymore
At these modern performance levels manual is only a hindrance and seems to be something only can't drive shitters can about because it gives them a menial task to focus on rather than actually driving fast

Its all about going fast
If you care about stroking a dick while putting along instead of going fast.. kys poser
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>>17330695
>Nissan GTR
>AWD automatic V6
>Mazda RX Vision
>rumored to be AWD and have hybrid ability in addition to the Rotary
>doesn't even exist
>Mitsubishi doesn't even have performance cars
>STi is and Miata are Japan's best bang for buck sports cars right now

I'm a big Japanese car fan, and it hurts.
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>>17332369
>inb4 Z35 is auto only
>inb4 Z35 is a crossover
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kys
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>>17331211
But snek is kill
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>>17331108
That's why F1 drivers shift manually. Because they want slower quarter mile times.

Smg > h pattern > auto

Sports car and automatic gear changes don't go together unless it's for the gayest form of racing (literally called drag)
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>>17330421
All of Ford's STs.
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>>17330364
>>17330370
>>17330371

Manual in the world of sports cars, super cars and racing is as old as a horse drawn cart. It's slower, less efficent and because there are people who can't shift or just idiots. Well there's no chance they'll wreck the engine slamming it into 2nd gear and not 4th.
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why does it look like it does
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I'll probably still get it. what's surprising me is the "expected" prices. 35-45k? sounds good to me. I guess it isn't trying to compete with the NSX and GTR
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>>17333909
I think its such absolute bullshit of an article
>brz """sti""" being announced in 2 days
>as in a car that'll hit the low-mid 30k mark
>Toyota will more than likely get a rebadged version for themselves
>implying it would make sense for them to price a fucking Supra just a couple grand above that
Yea, nah
Base model will Totally be in the upper 40's,
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>>17330352
>buying anything newer than 07
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>>17330352
>>17330432
Isn't the supra a project done with bmw?
BMW M is cutting their manual options next year as well.
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>>17330889

Why do all ZF gearbox cars use that gear selector? So lame.
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