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Why are Honda pick up trucks not popular?

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Why are Honda pick up trucks not popular?
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Honda makes pickup trucks?
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i didnt even know they existed.
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What the fuck?
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Well, they sold enough of them to design a second-generation Ridgeline, didn't they?
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>unibody
>fwd

yeah nice '''''''''trucks''''''' lel
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>>17323852
Because that is a minivan with a bed, not a pickup truck.
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....HONDA MAKES PICK UP TRUCKS!?
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>>17323878
>>17323885
>muh ladder frame 4WD to haul a washing machine home
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>>17323852

Because look at that fucking thing.
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These "trucks" are perfect for most people's uses. Most people that buy trucks aren't going to tow or haul or fill their beds with wood or rock. They're going to use them to drive around and occasionally use it to get a couch or something. The ridgeline was already this weird looking suv with an open bed that reminded people of a limp dick instead of a big throbbing one like a real man's truck. They just made the new ridgeline look like a truck. And people don't want something that just looks like a truck. They want the big throbbing dick.
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>>17324100
People will still snicker behind your back at driving a tranverse mounted FWD "truck" though.
In Honda's defense, their V6 is god-tier, you take care of it and you'll never have any problems out of it.
I guess if you're one of those Poos or Chinkies that can't bear to be seen in anything Murican and you still need a truck, the Ridgeline awaits...
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>>17323852
is that a civic?
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>>17323852
Because it's neither the right vehicle for heavy or commercial use nor a suitable penis-replacement.

It seems to actually be a decent vehicle for people using their truck as a normal car, but not for bragging with it.
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>>17323852
They sell very well. A very high percentage of ridge line owners are repeat customers.

They literally are he "perfect" truck for dumb ameriburger uses. Not imagined cattle hauling uses, and Calvin pissing on dodge/Chevy/ford passive-aggressive pissing matches at stoplights.

It is super useful and comfy, and comfortably hauls a family with ought having to go to a giant, and expensive double can truck. Lots of nice features for the users who don't plan on muh offroad, or muh hauling shitloads of cattle, which most truck owners don't do.


The only reason you don't see more of them is because cucked suburban men don't want chad at the office to call them a fag for buying a unibody minivan with a back pack. The men who don't give a fuck what chad thinks, because they plot their own path in life, are the real men who also don't give a fuck what you think about theor super useful ridge line.


I know a guy that has 270k miles on his and uses it to hunt moose in Maine. You'd be wise not to snicker at his truck.
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>>17323885
>>17323852
This, its pretty much a Honda pilot SUV with a bed, its for a tiny group of people that want to daily a truck and still get 30 mpg. Honda makes more refined vehicles than most other manufacturers, but you cant do anything a real truck can do
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because toyotas are better and cheaper.
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>>17323878
TBF 80% of pickup truck owners would be just fine with a FWD unibody "truck". They'd probably even like it better because of the ride quality improvement.
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>dealer group I work for gives awesome employee discounts and cash back every payment
>only fucking truck they have is this fucking thing
At least Honda unfucked the bed at last. Still wish we had a Toyota dealership for sweet sweet heavily discounted tacos.
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because hilux
and l200
but mostly hilux

the hilux is a legit gud truck, even compared with american ones. it's especially good if you want to do actual work with it. it's a true off road utility vehicle like a pick-up should be.
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>>17324566
dont count on it. There is no such thing as huge discount on tacos.
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i see your honda pick-up and raise you a fiat
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>>17324281
I agree with this.
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>>17324591
We have flat discounts on everything (and $100 back every payment you make) and the majority of our dealerships are luxury or semi-high end imports. Honda is the plebbest one we have which is why we have almost no trucks. Sadly they don't apply to used vehicles otherwise I could just wait for the taco I'd want.
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>>17323852
because it looks like a minivan with a bed.
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>>17323852
Cause no one wants to drive a jap pick up truck. Thats like showin up to a party w a shirt on that says i hav a teeny weeny
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>>17324281
>You'd be wise not to snicker at his truck.
why?
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>>17323852
Fragile masculinity
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Though it can do what most truck owners need, they simply don't want it. I like ride height and clearance, something that crossover doesn't offer. It's mostly people just don't WANT that thing.

A Honda civic is really all the average person needs, but a shit ton of people just want more.
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>>17324593
Wonder when they're going to inevitably badge this as the Dodge Dakota and sell it here in burgerland.

>>17324660
Yeah that's why everyone likes old Toyota trucks so much even in rural areas of the US.
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why aren't all trucks FWD?
you could have a longer bed and bigger cab in a shorter vehicle?
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>>17324228
>inbred hicks and wannabe cowboy chads that live in the city hardly count as people
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>>17324699
Cause FWD is underpowered for what trucks are designed for.
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>>17324583
Thanks ahmed
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>>17324707
>underpowered
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>>17324721
>this cross section
The fuck am I looking at? This is not easy on the eyes at all.
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>>17324707
A drivetrain can't be underpowered, you can used FWD biased AWD and an ecoboost v6
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>>17323852
<Truck not American
<Popular
Pickone
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>>17324707
When towing something, weight transfers to the rear tires under acceleration.

Not good if you're going uphill with fwd.
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>>17324861
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>muh "real" trucks

Are Americans really this desperate?
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>>17323885
Yep. Bought a Sport as a daily driver back in April. Smooth ride, plenty of room, 26mpg, power to pass on demand, clearance & AWD got me in & out of backwoods climbing areas. 4x8 drywall lays flat in the bed, and it took a full pallet of flooring with no trouble.

I don't know why they don't sell a fuckton of these things. But I don't have a giant boat to haul around and IDGAF if other people think it's gay. So far, I like it.
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>>17324697
It's actually a Mitsubishi triton / L200.
Fiats way of entering the Australian ute market, just like Mercedes and Renault are doing with the Nissan navara / np300.

I reckon if they sold the Hondas in awd, they would sell reasonably here in Aus. Certainly wouldn't be up with the Rangers, bt50s, hilux, tritons, amaroks and colorados in terms of sale numbers but it wouldn't be a lost cause.
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>>17324977
>I don't know why they don't sell a fuckton of these things.

Because they get the same mpg's as a V8 truck and can't tow. Pretty simple. I guess they work for yuppies like you.
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Because it only comes standard with that gay configuration I hate. But of course soccer moms who have no need for a truck would love this.
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>>17324991
The only thing you'll ever tow with a full size truck is your ego
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>>17325027
At least it won't overheat while doing to.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=ridgeline+towing+overheat&oq=ridgeline+towing+overheat&aqs=chrome..69i57.5671j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=ridgeline+towing+overheat+site:www.ridgelineownersclub.com&start=0
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>>17325049
Install a transmission cooler, Honda has been recommending that for over a decade
We had one on our MDX and never ran into a problem
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>>17325062
Or honda should of done that when they were engineering the damn thing?
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>>17325049
The first link is talking about overheating while offroading, something this truck isn't designed to do
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>>17325069
Not everyone tows shit. Should they include a brake controller for a trailer as well for their suburban Pilot with a bed?
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>>17325080
Okay fair enough not everyone does tow anything but maybe have a two package? They should at least assume some people want to actually use the truck like a truck once in awhile.
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>>17325091
Yeah, that's why the dealership can always install those options. Honda really doesn't do a million different options and would rather sell only a handful of trims with key differences which can be modified when the buyer takes delivery, it's just cheaper and streamlines the manufacturing process
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>>17325091
Why would they when the reality is that nobody actually does? Stop pretending you actually have a camper like that.
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>>17323937

this

those trucks are too faggoty for normal truck owners
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>>17324861
The Tacoma would like a word with you...
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>>17325062
>shitposts daily about the almost 700hp Corvette overheating
>260hp Honda minivan with the back cut off overheats on the reg
>It's okay, It's just a normal Honda thing.

Really makes you think.
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>>17325225
>cut off overheats on the reg
but that isn't true
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>>17324991
I'd like to know of which pickups can do that.
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>>17324552
And not everyone needs a real truck. Very few people do actually.
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>>17325254
then your better off getting an suv, because you cant really put stuff in the back unless its sunny out, or covered... covered like an suv
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>>17323937
Truck + Minivan should = Mini-truck, not this eyesore.
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>>17324281
>cucked suburban men don't want chad at the office to call them a fag for buying a unibody minivan with a back pack
And those "Chads" are also other suburban men who are insecure about their masculinity.
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>>17325268
A crossover is more suited to the average person.
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>>17325268
>because you cant really put stuff in the back unless its sunny out, or covered... covered like an suv
?

You have no idea what you are talking about
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>>17325270
>mini-truck
good then I have no space inside the vehicle for 5 people comfortably
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>>17325272
Yep. See >>17325168, >>17324991

Don't worry real-truck-guys, I'll give your opinion all the consideration it deserves. And I'm happy to see you've found a way to feel better about... y'know, your... situation.
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>>17325276
you cant even carry groceries in a truck when its raining, or snowing, or the roads are wet.. unless you have a cover of some sort for the bed..you might as well have an suv...

for 99% of the population an suv and a trailer would be better then any truck

but my original point is that the honda trucks cant haul heavy loads, and shit in the bad gets wet... get an suv instead
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>>17325351
>SUV
How about a sedan, or a crossover? Why do you need a suburban behemoth for?
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>>17324721
That's in a rwd format. Put that in a get, it will lose a lot of towing ability.
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>>17324861
Tacoma
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>>17324879
So you agree with me...?
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>>17325351
>you cant even carry groceries in a truck when its raining, or snowing,
you can put them inside the truck or in the trunk (which it has under the bed)

>honda trucks cant haul heavy loads
they aren't meant to, the average person rarely ever needs to haul heavy loads

>and shit in the bad gets wet
But thanks to the fact that I have space inside when the back seats fold up to put my tools

>b-but what about heavy towing and offroading
If these were main requirements for me buying a truck the ridgeline wouldn't be an option
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>>17325351
The ridgeline has a trunk
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>>17323852
Because they can't do truck things
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>>17325354
>need
I am going to ram that word down the next faggot that says it. "Need" is the worst word ever devised. It's not called the "Bill of Needs."
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>>17324100
This is sadly the truth tho; a fuckload, or maybe even the majority, of private pickup truck buyers would be more suited to the Honda Ridgeline than their F-series, Silverados, RAMs, Tundras, D-Maxes, L200s, Hiluxes and so on

It really has mostly to do with image, or atleast thats how I view the "issue"... even here, where the closest thing generally available is the VW Amarok, people will bring up the Ridgeline and go "why the fuck would anyone want a Honda pickup truck? Thats just so unmanly/unmasculine/gay looking" and so on

>>17324583
Do you know what countries except the US and Canada have the Ridgeline available new from a dealership? Can't find any good data on it, only that its "sold in 20 countries"

It doesn't seem like there could be all that many 1st world countries where the Ridgeline and the Hilux/L200 is sold
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>>17325502
Then why did you choose a pickup? Why do you get so upset over the word "need"?
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>>17323912
yea, but it's literally not a truck

it's fine for a person that needs to take their lawn trimmings to the compost or something but that's it.

the tie downs are garbage, had them give literally moving a washing machine in my buddies ridgeline. the weird double hinge latch fucking blows and likes to randomly pop open as well.

actually the weird supposed to be tool box but it's made from fiber glass so it breaks from putting toolboxes in it too often would make it great for tailgating as well if you filled it with ice and put beers in it.

but that's about it.
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>>17324583
why does a pickup truck have to have offroad capability? i gut that it "helps" you don't want your $60k work truck getting stuck in the field when you're trying to move a trailer --- but that's specifically for work trucks. not passenger vehicles


we have an offroad 4x4 suv (SUZUKI) and a pickup truck that doesn't go offroad

is there any reason my pickup needs to offroad?

why do all "trucking" scenarios involve mud, dirt, or the woods? usually you're just loading something in the bed that won't fit in a car. to, you know, drive on the road
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>>17323852
I recommended it to my brother along with a ford ranger for his jaunts to the compost and occasionally moving a piece of furniture. that's about all it's good for though
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>>17324991
>mpg's as a V8 truck and can't tow

they don't. they don't. they don't


>transverse v6 fwd biased awd
>not more efficient

kys
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>>17325351
>for 99% of the population an suv and a trailer

>I've never, once, pulled a trailer in my fucking life

tfw unloaded trailer

BOUNCE
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>>17325069
>thinks automatics don't come with transmission coolers (inside the radiator)
>thinks automatics aren't always fitted with auxiliary coolers for tow vehicles

its called a tow package
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>>17325573
>a single event suddenly justifies a 12-22 MPG @ 5-25k dollar extra
Rent a truck if you need to tow a trailer. UHaul and Penske exist.
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>>17325555
1. versatility, it's nice to have that capability even if you might never use it, plus you underestimate the amount of people taking toys like boats, bikes, snowmobiles and atvs to generally inaccessible locations for normal cars

2. you're also vastly underestimating the amount of people that use their work truck as a dd and need the 4x4/awd to even get to the job site after it rains or snows.
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why would you buy a fake truck when you can buy a real one for the same amount of money? What is this vehicles excuse? What does it do better?
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>>17324228
>I guess if you're one of those Poos or Chinkies that can't bear to be seen in anything Murican and you still need a truck, the Ridgeline awaits...

or if you have average-sized genitalia and a non-inflated ego

here in the midwest rednecks love trucks so much they actually get jobs that require trucks just so they can own one.

>yeah well i needed that FERD F450 TURBO DIESEL GIANT PENIS because my job NEEDS it bro
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>>17325555
>why does a pickup truck have to have offroad capability?

So you can make it to sick campsites and trailheads. That offroad capability is also nice when you're in the middle of nowhere and it dumps 2 feet of snow on you.
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>>17325594
>or if you have average-sized genitalia and a non-inflated ego

honestly, why is this an argument to you? You sound rather insecure about penis size If you acuse others of having small dicks because they enjoy cool trucks...
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>>17325354
my family had 7 people in it growing up, it moved us, our dog, our toys and was capable of getting damn near anywhere in any weather.

hows that for an answer?
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>>17325555
Dick waving. Off roading looks "awesome and manly" which is really easy to pair with the image truck manufacturers are trying to sell
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>>17325587
It's a better vehicle to drove in every day, which is what 99% of truck buyers actually do
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>>17325585
the ridgeline gets 19/26 mpg

which is just under the mpg of a new accord. (21/33)

the ridgeline is even a bit cheaper initially (29k vs 30K)


hell a new ridgeline does 0-60 in 6.6 seconds and has a really nice interior. its a better car than most of what /o/ drives

i did say car on purpose
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>>17325612

how so? Ride comfort?
The new 2016 navara (successor to the old frontier in the us) is also very comfy (multi-link suspension in the back instead of leaf springs), without sacrificing towing capability and so on (it can tow up to 7700lbs).
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>>17325586
You overestimate the number of people who do actually use their trucks for towing their suburban toys. You overestimate the number of people who even own suburban toys. And you greatly overestimate your need so you end up spending more on fuel.
>>17325606
So can crossovers. And minivans. But congratulations on being an outlier.
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>>17325633
Much more comfy and much easier to drive, it's a modern SUV with a bed
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>>17325587
For those who use the pickup-part perhaps once a week or even less its a better vehicle because it handles better than a standard pickup, gets better MPG, turns better and so on. On an objective basis it is better - hell, I'll admit that it would probably be better for my use than my Hilux is
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>>17325612
>99% of the time

that's such a shitty argument, everybody would be better served with something like a toyota yaris 99% of the time but if you know that 1% of the time you need to move furniture or you're doing home renos or your need to tow something then that makes that car useless to you.

because the truck can do the 1% and the 99% and the car can't do the 1% then the car is useless to me.
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>>17325605
i live in fucking redneck central where every BRO DUDE BRO has a BIG OLD FUCKIN TRUCK BRO


>"cool" truck
>2500HD work truck fitted with obnoxious as possible everything

they're not cool its fucking gay

>not spending $4000 on tires every 6 months
>not lifting your truck so high it doesn't even have any real articulation, just maxed out and stiff
>not getting OFFROAD LIGHT BARS for THE ROAD
>not ROLLIN COAL

its just stupid. by the way i've driven a modern f350 powerstroke 7.3l with 4x4 and manual trans

it was fucking terrible and boring and slow and shitty.

after getting out my my car (trans am) and getting into the work truck, i will never EVER understand the appeal
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>>17325643
Are you implying a Ridgeline can't haul some furniture around? It's not like the average F150 buyer is hauling a small home every other day
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>>17325643
It's actually a great argument. You can easily supplement that 1% by outsourcing the ownership to a rental agency. Trying to use that 1% to justify the 99% of the time it was no where near that use is just rationalization.
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>>17325627
A 5.3 silverado gets similar mpg's with the cylinder deactivation and a 8 speed.

I don't know why you wouldn't get a diesel Canyon if you got that much to spend on a little truck and are kikeish enough to care about mpg's when buying a truck.
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>>17325633
>>up to 7,700

it says 3,500 to 6,500 lbs

only a 1000lbs more than the ridgeline


to be fair the ridgeline isn't a good tow vehicle. but that's not the only thing trucks are made to do. its rated to tow the same as our old 2wd v6 S10 pickup. (up to 5,500 lb)

by all means if you have to tow a big trailer go and buy an HD truck
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>>17325656
Diesel is expensive in America
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>>17325643

exactly, why not just buy a minivan...
The point of a pickup is that it can do everything.
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>>17325643
>because the truck can do the 1% and the 99% and the car can't do the 1% then the car is useless to me.

i literally never drive my truck because they're bad to drive. its only for hauling or towing


>not owning a car to daily

stay poorfag
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>>17325635
crossovers didn't exist at the time and no they generally can't be loaded up with kids, dogs and make it to a trail head with a few exceptions like the grand cherokee, I know it's horribly anecdotal but the amount of times me or my brother have had to use our truck to pull people off the beach would back that up.
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With all of these people talking about ride quality, at least for me personally does anyone like their truck feeling and riding like a truck?

I drive a 96 2.4l manual Tacoma, part of the appeal is that everything is pretty much bare bones, there's no excessive electronic components to break or malfunction, the engine bay is large and easy to work on, you can actually hear the engine and the suspension lets you feel the road. Going back to riding around in a friends newer (2015?) Tacoma just feels like your not doing anything, your just getting whisked to your destination in a little bubble, you might as well not be driving.
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>>17325653
>there will always be somebody to rent or borrow a truck off of

have fun letting that bite you in the as soon enough

>>17325666
I actually do have a beat up truck exclusively for toys and projects.
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>>17325682
It would happen less often than you'd think. Especially in your 99% empty scenario.
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>>17325658
>it says 3,500 to 6,500 lbs
>only a 1000lbs more than the ridgeline

I was referring to the new navara which is rated at a max. towing capability of 3500kg (7700lbs).
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>>17325672
God no, my isuzu dmax (new Colorado) rode like ass
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Wagons are superior to trucks desu
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>>17325689
It isn't available here and that's probably with a unicorn diesel engine option
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>>17325665
a fucking minivan can't do as much as a ridgeline you fucking retard

go back to what ever shit site you came from and get a fucking brain
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>>17325696
It will be soon I think. Its available everywhere in the rest of the world. Its offered with only two diesel options (a 2.3 turbodiesel and a 2.3 biturbo diesel) that both get 33 mpg...
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>>17325704
why? A minivan can haul a washing machine too, just flip the back seats and youre ready to go...
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>>17323852
Had no idea they did trucks. In Mexistan the popular car based minitrucks are the VW Saveiro,
Chebby Tornado and that one Fiat Truck that is sold as a Ram for whatever reason.
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>>17325704
>>17325722
>>17325665

Can confirm, Minivans are pretty close to smaller trucks in terms of capacity, my family owned a Toyota Sienna, if you install a transmission cooler on the V6 version you can tow 3500 lbs, and you could take out the middle seats and fold the back ones to carry 4'x8' sheets of plywood flat on the floor as well, it's pretty much the same as my gen 1 Tacoma although it's only an I4.
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>>17325714
American MPG or British MPG?
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>>17325745
That 1500lbs difference between towing capacity means I can't tow a track car with a Sienna
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>>17325777
american mpg, its 40 UK mpg or 7 liter per 100km.
I drive one daily and average 7.6 l/100km (31mpg) in real conditions (mostly city traffic).
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>>17324583
>>17324716
>got a huge hard on for hilux after watching Syria war footage
>don't want puck-up shit
>toyota already started to import fortuner into my country
Feel good,man!
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>>17323852
will this work?
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>>17325555
here in the uk, and the rest of europe, 90% of pick-up owners work in agriculture, and they buy them as work vehicles. that's who the hilux/l200 are marketed at. european farmers, forestry workers etc etc. It's quite a big sector.
Here in the UK it used to be land rovers but now they are far too expensive for farmers.
Obviously 4WD is a necessity for these people.
Nobody here buys pick-ups for commuting/leisure. Fuel prices are too high.
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>>17326113
>Fuel prices are too high.

They're not though. Barely more than some places in Canada. You people are just really poor.
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>>17323878
What the shit? Even fiat's rebadged nissan pick up has rwd or awd optional
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>>17326174
It's like 6 bucks a litre for britbongs
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>>17323937
Looks like the avalanche or Cadillac's truck.
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>>17326220
6 dollars? That's fucked. It's like 15.50MXN per liter of 85 octane here.
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>>17325933
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>>17323852
cuz it's a Honda which is extremely gay and everyone will make fun of you and it looks autistic.
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>>17324991
>traveling in an oversized gypsy vehicle.
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>>17326361
Are you 12?
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>>17323863
/thread
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>>17324593
Shit someone beat me to it/
tfw would drive mega trucklet
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>>17324281
They're pretty gay bro. They're the shitboxes of trucks.
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>>17325662
Like 20 cents higher than gasoline and sometimes cheaper than gas.
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>>17328372
I've driven all over the east cost and it's always been more expensive than premium
Meanwhile in Canada it's always cheaper than regular

That's a huge fucking difference in cost. It's why most GLs and MLs in and around Toronto are using the diesel engines from Sprinter vans, the better mileage is just a bonus
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Why not a Benz?
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>>17328441
>not for sale
>will probably be too expensive

At least it has a diesel V6 and AWD standard
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>>17328441
Dead on arrival
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>>17328411
>east coast
I found your problem.
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>>17328503
>west coast is all liberal shitholes
>fly over states with nothing to offer
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>>17325539

perhaps your idiot friend should have bought a truck with a tough aluminum bed and not a minivan based truck

you sound like an idiot who abuses shit 2bh m8, I see white trash like you driving around in blown out Pathfinders screaming about how it can't haul 8,600lbs of cement lol what a POS fuck this chink shit car lol
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>>17324699
No wieght for traction and they would understeer like shit.
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I hate pickup threads so much

MUH V8
MUH TOWING

They should really be limited like in some european countries to commercial vehicle licence holders, with a 80km/h speed limit. Fuck pickup ““Trucks””
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>>17328879
The taste of freedom is too strong for some...
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>>17328890
>"muh freedom"
>gets overtaken by a hippie in a Prius and can't do anything about it
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>>17323852
thanks for reminding it exists
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>>17329350
>Hurr you're so slow when you are towing 20,000 lb
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>Not driving a dacia pickup
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>>17324593
>>17324697
>>17324980

Ram is rolling out a rebadged Mitsubishi l200 as a Ram 1200. I believe Nissan will have Mitsu focus on truck platforms for US sales. But until the l200 and Frontier end their production run in like 5 years we won't see much.

Also I dig the ridgeline. Only rolling coal fags get mad about them.
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>>17329657
In the US? I always wanted am L200
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>>17324991
>obligatory MUUUUUH 300 FOOT TOY HAULER fag in every truck thread
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>>17328890
>The taste of freedom is too strong for some...
Including those that take out loans for trucks, campers and boats.
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>>17325696
>implying diesels aren't standard in utility vehicles in the non-retarded world
Only burgershits buy utility vehicles with petrol engines.
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>>17329684
Financing and debt for decades is the American way
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>>17329657
>yfw every midsize truck is a rebadge of the same three or so models
Toyota Hilux, VW Amarok, those are the unique ones.
The Ford Ranger is a Mazda BT-50.
The Mercedes X-Class is a Nissan Navara/Frontier.
The Fiat Fullback is a Ram 1200 is a Mitsubishi Triton/L200.
And the Chevy Colorado is an Isuzu D-Max.
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>>17329699
And of course the Chevy Colorado is also a GMC Canyon and Holden Rodeo. That's 6 models and 13 badges.
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>>17329699
The X class is going to have the diesel drivetrain from the GL
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>>17325351
I have an AWD 1st gen CRV and it does almost everything perfectly as my daily. Need to haul 3 guys back from work? It's got me covered. And it has modest rear space
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>>17323852
can you even get a ridgeline with a 6' bed? I hate super shorty 5' beds cant even get a dirt bike in sideways with the tailgate up. longbed full size is mustardrace, can fit 3 dirt bikes in the back with the tailgate up.
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>>17323863
>>17323867
>poorfag detected
In all seriousness, they are very popular in more wealthy areas. I see them everywhere, they are meant for people who golf or mountain bike. They are not good as utility trucks.
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>>17325745
>you could take out the middle seats and fold the back ones to carry 4'x8' sheets of plywood flat on the floor as well

best part of an odyssey

also up to 12' pipe under the front seats
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>>17328528
>tfw cali diesel is 20 cents less than premium
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>>17323852
My dad has a 1st gen
It's the first "truck" like vehicle he's ever owned.
The only cars he's owned that were manlier were a Chevelle in his youth and a Body on Frame Ford Explorer, spent a long time afterwards owning minivans, and he makes alot of use of the (lockable). underbed storage space.
It has a front wheel based automatic AWD system that only activates when traction is needed - it's not terrible to drive, in fact it's quite decent and seems to have a decent amount of power.
If it had an actual transfer case and lockers I wouldn't mind the unibody and independent suspension as much.

Not something I would buy, but actually more pleasing than you would think. If I had to have a small truck or similar it would be a last gen Sporttrac (they are getting fucking expensive on the used market) or a single cab taco
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>>17324977
They are actually pretty peppy, but the reason is because they can't tow. A V6 Tacoma is a much better tower for example.
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>>17325027
That tow is beyond the capability of a stock ridgeline.
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>>17325080
My 1st gen Xterra with the anemic VG-33 (30ft-lbs less torque than the Ridgeline) has a transmission cooler and brake controller/tow setup stock.

But is also is body on frame, has a rear axle, and a goddamned transfer case like god intended
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>>17325555
Trucks that tow and haul more often than not are RWD only
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>>17324721
It says +10hp but I don't see a K&N
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>>17323852
Because it's literally a crossover with a bed. It would fit the same usecase as an el camino, but wouldn't work for someone who needs a real truck.
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>>17332901
And in Canada shit's significantly cheaper than regular fuel
What's your point?
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>>17335054
That's the thing, most people don't need a real truck and those are who Honda are targeting with the Pilot
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>>17323852
They don't signal that you just finished your 4 year contract and came out with a GI bill, PTSD, and some money like a 6 tire landship does
PTSD Duty fags want to feel like they're still in the sand, which is why they usually go into LE and get the biggest truck they can find
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