Just test drove a 2016 Golf R

>>17310852
its not real awd, as long as you don't mind it, I guess it's better than an STi.
When I test drove one, it wasn't as perky as I thought it was gonna be, but still fun and kinda comfy.

Literally fedora the car

>>17310852
If you can afford it, get it and APR tun it

bad ass sleeper car

one in in nice used condition is usually $35,000 for a 2016 with low miles though

kind of a lot for a little hatchback

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>>17310852
Do it. It's a nice car and it's not some American/Japanese pos

>>17310895
Fuck that

Why would you not spend an extra ~$8k and get a Corvette? Also with 290hp coming from 2 liters I hope it has a fuck of a warranty considering how a 120hp VW can't hold it's self together.

>>17310919
you do realize these are 2 completely different cars, and the VW can at least make it a lap without losing oil

>>17310875
Nigger they are 11second quarter mile cars with a tune

how perky do you fucking want it

>>17310875
>its not real awd
yes it is

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Anyone who spends 40k on a golf should choke themselves in their own dick

>>17310934
>you do realize these are 2 completely different cars

Yes I know. Gee an actual sports car vs a souped up fwd shitbox. That makes the Golf R even more retarded. The Golf is also pretty far from a family car and predominately driven by single IT guys so what's the point? If you're going full boyracer you might as well do it right.

>>17310948
But see that's it though, they need a tune to get there.
Stock is kinda slow to start.
>>17310955
Haldex is not true AWD, its 4wd you dumb nigger.

>>17310948
Trap speed and 60ft time as proof? Cause I'm calling bullshit on 11 seconds...

>>17310955
>real awd
>transverse engine

Yeah Nah. It's fwd biased which is automatically trash.

>>17310972
keep sperging, OP is clearly looking into a different market of cars.
you can still fit kids comfortably in the back of a golf, can't say that for a vette.
Also since when was a corvette a boyracer and not boomer fuel?

>>17310972
>why would you want an all-around practical car with sporty qualities when you can get a two-seater track machine
Please, leave. This site is 18+.

>>17310974
>But see that's it though, they need a tune to get there.

12.8 quarter mile bone stock, that is plenty fast

>>17310983
https://youtu.be/qCsQYS3-lBk

>>17310984
>Yeah Nah. It's fwd biased which is automatically trash.

it will put 50% of the power to the rears

>>17311025
>my impostor is a VAG fangirl

I thought you had better standars

>>17310852
Can you really afford a $30,000+ golf OP?

>>17311025
thats not stock, that has a stage 2 tune in it, it also says in the description about a downpipe, fucking liar.

>>17311034
>my impostor is an autistic bus rider
Not surprised, really.

>>17311032
That still makes it fwd. The only awd systems worth a shit are rwd biased or a static split like a Evo or some shit.

>>17311043
>thats not stock, that has a stage 2 tune in it,

Yes no shit I said with a tune it was an 11 second car

12.8 stock

>>17311044
there are no buses in my town ffs

at least inform yourself

>>17311048

>cars are running 10second quarter miles on the platform
>total shit

oh ok
>>17311048
>That still makes it fwd.
the fuck it does

>>17311041
Well not normally... But this one is

>Drumroll

25k with 20k miles because it was lemon law'ed HAHA but it's been rebuilt and supposedly passes inspection

But I started this thread to discuss the car, in a few years I'll be able to afford a used one, it's either that.. a GTI, focus ST, maybe.... WRX/STI but I much prefer the styling and feel of VW or Ford to subie

>>17311049
Im gonna need proofs on that 12.8, the most im seeing is the 13.1 time.

>>17311055
You can literally make anything 10 seconds these days. There's daily driven diesel trucks that would rip the Golf a new asshole. Getting a Golf to that level would be ridiculously expensive and unreliable.

Take the front driveshafts out of the Golf and see what happens. Fuck off with that crossover ass fwd biased shit.

>>17311058
>25k with 20k miles because it was lemon law'ed HAHA but it's been rebuilt and supposedly passes inspection

nah fuck that don't get involved

is it this car?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Volkswagen-Golf-2-0T-R-Hatchback-AWD-/272687145524?hash=item3f7d6ba234:g:L10AAOSwurZZL6Ea&vxp=mtr

>>17311064
You don't need an R over GTI unless you plan on tuning or live in area with very heavy weather.

>>17311064
no point in buying an ST, piles of cheap shit, stay away from ford.

>>17311058
Does the VW factory warranty still apply?

>>17311064
In a few years your situation is going to be different.

>>17311066
>Im gonna need proofs on that 12.8, the most im seeing is the 13.1 time.

>in real world testing. APR was able to achieve a quarter mile pass of [email protected] MPH on an unmodified Golf R

https://www.goapr.com/media/videos/PLz-Mlcla__UZFU79pf9R5YbdG9m1CRn97/qCsQYS3-lBk/

>>17311070
>You can literally make anything 10 seconds these days
blatantly untrue, few tranny/drivetrains will hold up to that

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With 25k you can get a base 2015/16 Mustang GT
Hell I got my premium package for 28k
>435HP
>0-60 in 4.4s
>sounds like a beast growling

>>17311110
It's like you didn't even read through the thread before posting.

>>17311074

The R will launch much better on street tires than a GTI, a tuned GTI will wheelspin through 3rd gear in FWD and not be very safe

>>17311114
Why would I care about you random bus riders? I only care about OP

>>17311072
Nah this one's in Orlando, it is off lease only tho

>>17311135

someone literally beat that car to death and got VW to bite the bullet on it

unless the rest of the factory warranty is still good I would not touch it with C.'s dick

>>17311085
How so? I'll be able to afford cars to my taste.. small, comfy, quick

I also have a hard on for diesels, Passat/Golf/Jetta TDI? Yum

>>17311110
I'm sorry but that's not my thing. Pigfat, douchey looking car, I respect it's performance and that others like it, but I prefer more subdued styling, sleep type shit

>>17311110
You can also wrap it around a tree or ride up a local curb for free

>>17311154
>I prefer being slow
O-Okay man. How dare I keep you from eating quality shit.

>>17311143
Yeah, I mean like I said I've got no intention of buying this one... I just wanted to see what power was like, I've only ever driven GTIs and v6 Genesis's lmao, just wanted to taste the rainbow of real performance

>>17311167

The MK7 Golf R is just as fast as that stang you nigger

>>17310895
You're thinking of the GTI

>>17311167
Jesus way to miss the point. I'd rather get something that doesn't look so trashy, I'd love to go that fast but it wouldn't be worth it in a car like that. Now something like a charger hellcat, or a Taurus SHO... Hell yeah

>>17311169
well what did they say about the rest of the factory warranty? Good or not?

>>17311173
Shit:/ really? I think an STI is more tippy. Or BRZ/FRS

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>>17311172
>>17311177
>slowlets boiracers on damage control

>>17311101
There's 10 second diesel trucks on stock trannies and plenty of stock tranny Corvettes running 10's. Throw $1500 worth of parts into the tranny and it's now good for 1500hp. Good luck pulling that off with a fragile VW dct.

I don't know why you'd get a R for drag racing anyways.

>>17311178
It's good yeah! But I can't afford it right now I'm a student, I "could" but I shouldn't, need to save and wait until I really have the disposable income, and even then I'd take one that isn't possibly a fucking lemon

>>17311184
GTFO you degenerate shitposter, go shill ford somewhere else, you aren't wanted

>>17311184
? The Golf R is literally just as fast as the stang and the stang is far more "boiracer" than a VW

>>17311188
>I don't know why you'd get a R for drag racing anyways.

because it's awd and with the DSG runs very consistent low 11second quarter mile times with a tune and 104 race gas?

>>17311188
No DCT m8, just a solid 6 speed. Fuck automatics

And fuck man, I AGREE with you, no one's challenging there's more potential with a higher displacement engine and a more durable platform, but you don't get the comfy, composed, snappy handling and the looks to boot

>>17311188
You said you could get anything into the 10s, then you throw out an oddball diesel truck (with no doubt a rock solid drivetrain) ....and a vette

but most cars do not have drivetrains that could put up with that stress

I spend a lot of time at the track and when you start getting into the low 11s and do a lot of passes you are going to break the vast majority of even sports car drive trains

>>17311193
>It's good yeah! But I can't afford it right now I'm a student, I "could" but I shouldn't, need to save and wait until I really have the disposable income, and even then I'd take one that isn't possibly a fucking lemon

so convince you not to buy a lemon law car you were not going to buy anywway

honest thread OP thanks

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>>17311199
>4.9s is the same as 4.4s

>>17311199
This
>>17311243
Haha hey it was a good thread, got some discussion going, and I was thinking about it, still am, but I wanted to hear if anyone had experience with it

>>17311208
Okay so you need to spend $40k on a car to beat some shitty drag car with a junkyard ls and a ebay turbo? There's a million better choices if you want to get into drag racing.

>>17311235
Because most sports cars are stressed to the limit unlike American sports cars and muscle cars that use truck engines and transmissions. There's a million examples on youtube of people building 11 second cars in their sheds with junkyard parts. You got to realize that a tiny 4 cylinder won't hold up to multiple drag runs hence why their rarely used in drag racing.

>>17311243
You're an autistic motherfucker aren't you?

>>17311305
>Okay so you need to spend $40k on a car to beat some shitty drag car with a junkyard ls and a ebay turbo? There's a million better choices if you want to get into drag racing.

Drag racing as a hobby is not really about "beating" people by going faster, if that were the case everyone would run 9 second LS powered rail cars with 4.56 rear ends

it's more about being consistent when bracket racing

People who drag their dailys at the track are bracket racing, not heads up racing, it's about cutting a good light and running consistent times

you should go hand out at a track if you want to learn more about it

>>17310852
>40k for a golf
/thread

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>it's another hating on a quick, well made grocery getter thread

Bench racers would start to compare it to sports cars.

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>>17311324
>People who drag their dailys at the track are bracket racing, not heads up racing, it's about cutting a good light and running consistent times

this

Okay so if anyone's still here and shitting on the car... What's a better alternative that isn't some muscle car that's completely different from the category a Golf R fits in

>>17311359

A factory sleeper? not much

04-06 pontiac GTO

new Chevy SS

perhaps a WRX with the spoiler removed

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>>17311359
Get a real car.

>>17311359
Nothing. It's literally the best hot hatch in everything except for price.

>>17311373

I wish they were not so fucking expensive, 10k more than a GTI, fuck

>>17311366
I love the cars you mentioned but they're not in the same league. Doesn't have the fit and finish nor practicality of an R

>>17311386

the 05 GTO had really nice fit and finish

What do you want an M3 an M5?

>>17311390
Uhh.. a golf r has all the qualities of a fantastic overall car. You posted hotrods with shit interiors/build quality

>>17311356
What pussy ass place do you come from? In America it's the fastest who get paid and the fastest who get laid. Bracket racing is boomer tier shit.

>>17311393

The Pontiac GTO was built by Monaro and had every bit as nice an interior and fit and finish as a BMW M5 or similar car

>>17311396
>What pussy ass place do you come from? In America it's the fastest who get paid and the fastest who get laid. Bracket racing is boomer tier shit.

almost all street legal cars drag racing at the track are bracket racing, like 90% plus

>>17311381
Just curious - why would you want a Golf if you live in America? It's understandable in large European cities, where parking is tight, but it makes little sense to deliberately go for a hatch elsewhere.

>>17311407

Because it's AWD (the only other fast AWD cars in the USA are the WRX or $50,000+ cars), because it's not really known in the USA that the Golf R is a 12 second car, people just think you have a golf and don't look twice, the new Mustangs and Camaros just scream mid life crisis or tryhard, the golf looks like and econobox but flies

>>17311366
Okay these are some suggestions I can get behind, those are sweet cars (OP here) I've always drooled over GTOs

>>17311371
Disgusting
>>17311423
This :D this is exactly my motivation

>>17311429
>Okay these are some suggestions I can get behind, those are sweet cars (OP here) I've always drooled over GTOs

Check out the Pontiac G8 with the 6.2 as well

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>>17311444
post yfw

>>17311398
>>17311444
Pontiac is cool but no, the interior is absolute garbage , the pedals are horribly placed, the clutch and shifter are subpar.

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>>17311470

I wish that had come out

>>17311479
>, the interior is absolute garbage

The Monaro GTO interior was not garbage and won much praise and awards

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>>17311123
I say get proper sports car and a 3k civic for you and your family.

>>17311515
This is too retarded even for underage b&. Try harder.

>>17311386
>STi not practical

It has more room and is cheaper with better performance and aftermarket. If you're considering the R, you should just get a 335i. Hatchbacks aren't the end all be all of practicality especially if you have a family. And the haldex system is garbage fuck off.

>>17311515
>Mustang
>Sports Car

Top kek

>>17311635
>golf
>fast

>>17311596
>Hatchbacks aren't the end all be all of practicality
It's literally the whole point of a hatchback, benchracing cretin.

>>17311596
>It has more room and is cheaper with better performance and aftermarket.

The WRX STI and the Golf R are almost exactly the same price and the Golf can be more cheaply modded via APR than the subie, you are wrong

>>17311596
STI rides like a skateboard and looks like a vapemobile. Please stop posting on this board until the puberty is over with you.

>>17311638
12second quarter mile
>not fast

>>17311770
>12second quarter mile
>>not fast
That's accurate.

>>17311778
define fast for me then o shitposter

>>17311869
10's or lower

>>17311877
please list factory cars I can buy that run 10s for under 50k

>>17311366
Whats the point of a sleeper car anyway.

If youre spending tens of thousands of dollars, why not look cool along the way?

>>17312143

Not getting tickets.

Not looking like a tool

Not looking like you are going through a mid life crisis

Not wanting people to know you have a fast car

>>17311654
I'm pretty sure I'm older than most of the people on this board.

>letting other people dictate your life choices

It's like you never want to have fun or be successful in your life. It's probably why 95% of this board has shitboxes or can't even make a measily 6 figure salary.

>>17311651
Lmao, MSRP means shit. Try actually haggling at the dealership. I cross-shopped the R, RS, and STi, it's much harder to get dealership to go lower.

>>17311643
How is anything I said even benchracing you fucking retard? You should go back to tumblr so you can just blurt out your "meme trigger words". You're comparing a stage 2 tune, when the stage 3 is $7k at the minimum.

>>17312475
Literally ever word you type screams autistic 17 year old retail worker.

>>17312475
Probably because the R is worth more

>>17312494
You find me a 17 year old retail worker that earns as much as I do then I would hire him on the spot because he probably knows how to make an app.

>>17312505
Subjective, a car is worth as much as you value it. Doesn't matter what the price tag a dealership puts on it.

>>17312475
>gets told with objective arguments
>hur muh life choices """"measly six figures""""
Yeah, okay lad. Now go play in the meme thread.

>>17312517
>literally being an internet tough guy in 2017
Kek, this is beyond pathetic. It's a board for car discussion not for insecure faggots to cosplay as billionaire in front of anonymous users. Either talk about cars or fuck off, autismo.

>>17312519
Nothing you spouted was objective. If you're literally getting the R as a grocery getter, you're an incompetent mutt to even consider buying it. The only thing that is true is that R has a softer suspension and is easier to drive on stick. But again, why the fuck are you looking at a car that you won't even track while bench marking tunes? Would be more worth it to get a CTSV if that was what OP was actually looking for if you want comfy DD. 6 figures is not a lot of money considering you can go to school for 6 years and start out with that pay.

>>17312529
>literally this assmad because of being a failure in life

sorry

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>>17312517
>Subjective, a car is worth as much as you value it. Doesn't matter what the price tag a dealership puts on it.

Since they are selling it and they are licensed dealers and the only ones with new cars from the factory

it kinda fucking does matter what they will take for it numbnuts

>>17311110
It's only been out for a couple years and already looks like shit

>>17312536
R is the ultimate practical sporty grocery getter. Suggesting a 6l boat to someone looking for a hatchback is pure autism. Six figures is objectively quite a lot considering the median salary. Nobody who actually works for a living would ever deny it and it's pretty clear you don't considering the fact you literally brought up the "muh life choices muh 6 figures" insecurity fueled drivel out of absolutely nowhere. So again, please, stop shitting up your thread with your bus riding expertise in cars.

>>17312559
You pay the price to do business, not the price of increasing their revenue flow on the basis of pure capitalism.

>>17312587
You don't think a GTI, mazda3 hatch, fiesta st, or a focus st would make more sense? The R is exactly like suggesting the CTSV because it's ridiculous if you're going to use it as a grocery getter, stop denying it. And 6 figures is more in cities/states where your money goes equal to 10%+ than compared to average. At 33% federal/state tax rate you have 66k to use as a single male per year based on a 100k salary. Factoring monthly expenditures on rent, vehicles, insurance, food, travels/friends/significant other, you're maybe saving 2k a month.

>>17311079
hey i like my FiST its a good car

>>17312624
The R is worth it for the 4WD alone if you live anywhere with serious weather. Not sure what your tax rambling are for - 100k+ personal income is very well above median values even for the richest metropolitan areas. If you're going to LARP as a srs bsns man and not a trust fund babby / angry teenager, you might want to appear less dismissive of money.

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>>17311654
Vapenoble Bunta here, my stage IV STI is quite the lifestyle. My flex fuel setup let's me run grape flavored vape to get an extra 50 whp. Then to gain extra speed I modded my fidget spinners to use them as wheel bearings. Now I'll definitely having better performance than the 2016 EVO XI. Oh wait.... I guess I'll just spend my days banging gears against those RS bois in the modern day rally wars. Can't wait till my piston 3 gets shot out the passenger side taking down any boi racer. Then I can do an engine swap and be V8 bait. What a life!!!!

>>17311356
Bracket racing is for bitches, heads up or nothing

>>17311405
False....

>>17310895
Base models, sure. GTIs and Rs are the Euro equivalent to WRXes and STis. Vapemobiles for boyracers.