/hhg/

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Current gen Mazda3 isn't a hot hatch though.

Swift Sport is though.

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>>17300139
I didn't make that image.

Question for the Ford guys: do I have to take it to the dealer if I want to put on mountune shit? Because the dealer I bought it from seems to have no idea that mountune is a thing and it's gonna be a pain to educate them.

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>>17300158
I know you didn't, some retard anon made it a few months ago and he was rightfully called on his autism.

I still remember his tard rage over the Mazda3 being a run-of-the-mill econobox like it was yesterday.

>>17300172
I vaugely remember that now.

Should have gone with the polestar as the op pic.

>>17300158
If you want the warranty then it has to be installed by the dealer

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>>17300259
I can't just take it to my mechanic, huh?.
Fuck.
Guess i'll have to educate those faggots.

>>17300107
Isn't toyota making a hot version of the yaris

Thinking about getting a 2015-16 Focus ST with some factory warranty left.

I've test drove one and fell in love with the car. I can't see myself getting something with less power...

Does anyone have some reliability anecdotes? It will be my first major car purchase and would like the car to last 200,000

>>17300277
Pretty sure it states that any ASE certified mechanic can install it and retain the warranty. But I haven't looked into it in a few years.

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>>17300107
Ayy

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>tfw haven't been on a scenic drive in a while

>>17300356
Ah, ok.
I'll look further into that.
Would much rather go to a shop than the stealership.

What does /o/ think of the Scirocco?

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>>17300402
FiST brother!

>>17300443
Not sold in the US so I don't really think much of it. Looks pretty good imo though

>>17300368
>>17300450

>>17300368
Where was this taken? I'm fairly jealous.

>>17300556
Blue Ridge Mountains

>>17300593
Double jealous now, used to live in western NC but had to move because the local economy was shit. Now i'm stuck in a city and wound so tight I got ulcers in my stomach

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>Australia didn't get the amazing looking Type R last gen
>We get the new one that looks like it has downs syndrome

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Am I /hothatch/?

*Not mine btw but picking one up next week

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Getting the rears up on these were a massive pain.

>no low profile car jack
>current car jack lifts rear up about 1/4" shy of the height of the stands
>had to dig out the old hi-lift and lift it the rest of the way via the tow hitch

Goddamn cars are too low

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>>17300158
>>17300368
>>17300402
>>17300450
>>17300643
Hey bros

>>17300668
hola amigo! Glad to see another person driving around one of the best cars on the market

>>17300643
Did you make those yourself? I don't have jack stands that fit under mine

>>17300816
I did. Had the front ramps for about three years now and made the rear stands a couple of months ago.

Used 2 x 12 pressure treated lumber. Heaviest vehicle I've had on them is my dad's Jeep Commander. Trust them way more than plastic or steel ramps.

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Any speed3 goiyms here?

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>>17300368
>>17300402
>>17300450
>>17300643
>>17300668
:)

tint n new pics soon hopefully.

>>17300627
Is that a hatch or is that like the fox that looks like a hatch but isn't really technically a hatch...

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Dis hatch is so hot, even aliens admire!

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any golf 7 R owner here ?
can you recommend the
car or would you buy something different if you had the chance ?

>>17302744
>$40k for a golf

Like the Focus RS you can get better value else where, but some people just gotta have it.

Who /superhatch/ here?

Unless your hatchback has more than 300 BHP and does 0 - 60 in less than 5 seconds, you can't join the /superhatch/ club.

>>17303182
Where's yours?

>>17303182
Maybe after I put a hybrid turbo in the Fiesta I'll be close to 300/300.

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Who Abarth here?

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>>17303197
Here.

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Getting him tinted today but only 35% because North Carolina.

>>17303544
Any darker doesn't really look that great. NC fag as well, all the bitching about inspections here is insane. Just make sure to get it the same darkness all the way around.

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>tfw I supposedly drive a hot hatch (MKV Golf, not GTI)
>every other person in a fast/nice car tries to race me on the freeway or at stoplights and I hate it and just want to enjoy my comfy ride and sometimes go a little fast when there's nobody else around on the road
Sometimes I think about getting rid of it so I can buy my cousin's truck, not gonna lie.

>>17300281
Yeah, with a supercharger on it. Sounds fun.

Bump. This thread is good in theory

>>17301999
Checking your trips

Some guy I share a parking lot with has a Speed3 that runs mid-12s. I guess that would require over 400HP right?

>>17303309
Planning on getting one later this week. Had any problems with yours that I should expect?

Anyone else going to the st octane academy in August?

>>17305022
where is it at? Also I bought my ST used, would I still be able to go?

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>waiting in left turn lane to turn on green
>ferd fiesta coming up the road in opposite lane of traffic about to turn right
>guy has a fartcan exhaust and a [HOONIGAN] bumper sticker
>takes the corner at 2mph
seriously what the fuck was the point of you even buying a hot hatch you shithouse

>>17305324
https://www.stoctaneacademy.com/
It's in Utah.
You could go, you'd just have to pay.
It's only free for a year from the day of purchase from a dealer. I don't know if it's transferable if you picked it up in that timeframe.

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>>17300107
Turbo + AWD + Manual + Hatched Back. Do I count?

>>17303544
>him

u wot m8?

>>17304157
I have 35% tint on an F150 and my first inspection really was a pain, requiring multiple trips to multiple shops.

First time I went the guy just looked at me and said don't bother because "I'll have to fail you for tint." Guy didn't even check it with a meter, but i didnt argue, just left. Second time, different shop, I pre warned the guy that my tint is legal. He took the car into the bay and began inspecting it. Came back 10min later and said "I can't pass you so I'm just gonna pull back out for you." I was pissed but didn't bitch.

I went back to the tent shop. Watched the guy meter it in front of me comfortably above the legal limit. The tint shop had to give me a recommendation of where to get my inspection. The Chrysler dealership less than 8 miles from my house.

So Tell me, how much hp does a car have to make to be considered "hot"? Or power/weight? Or 0-60? Or any other criteria? What makes a hatch hot instead of Just warm?

>>17305468
That's an SUV

>>17305845
Barely. It's a Fiat 500X with an inch or so of extra height.

>Be a pretty big/buff looking hispanic guy
>People always surprised i drive a mini cooper
>Im actually getting pussy with this fucking car

Pretty good

>>17305827
It's more power/weight and 0-60.

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>>17303309

Just got it a couple weeks ago, hell of a difference from my explorer and chevy II

>>17306329
>>17303309
Anyone got the cabrio or could comment on it?
>inb4 not a hatch

>>17303309
>>17304750
>>17306329
>>17306959
Why did you guys want this over say a FiST or Speed3?

>>17300450
Post a picture of the plate covering half of your intercooler

>>17300430
Yeah can confirm, any ASE can do it

>>17307789
Florida doesn't require front plates

>>17307777
FiST is unreliable American trash, Mazda only exists as an abused/used car.

>>17308063
>Fiat
>Not unreliable trash
Pick one

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all you fgts make me sick

undisputed king of budget shitbox hot hatches coming through

>>17308085
But beautiful Italian trash will always be cooler than bland American trash.

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>>17308086
*blocks your path*

>>17308144
>fiat 500
>beautiful
pick one

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>>17301999
Hi, friend
Had my speed for ~ 6 months now, has intake and exhaust, not sure what to do to it this summer, I'm thinking accessport and make the exhaust louder ( muffler and/or resonator delete) any suggestions?

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>>17305587
My car is a total bro.

A tinted bro now.

Have any of you ST guys disconnected the sound symposer? It's not as fake as engine noise through, speakers, but I'm still not sure I like it.

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>>17303544
>supreme gas cap

real niBBas wear colgate you mark ass motherfuk

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albert biermanns baby
True god machine

>>17308865
Without additional mods, removing the sound symposer just makes the car sound like a run of the mill 4 cylinder shitbox.

>>17307777
Italian memes mostly

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>>17307777
Because daddy DeMuro encouraged us to try it.

Also this sweet sweet aftermarket shifter.

>>17308676
Not the guy you were talking to, but I've got a first gen speed. You need to get an oil catch can and an upgraded high pressure fuel pump if you haven't already. The catch can is strongly recommended, the fuel pump is absolutely necessary.

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>>17307777
GTA cred.

>>17308871
w2c dat 1:1 colgate fresh

>>17308892
I have a full Mountune MR230 kit and the exhaust sounds great. Not sure how the engine sounds since the symposer hides all the noise.

>>17308948
>hides
amplifies*

>>17308865
nah I haven't removed it, I don't really care to since it doesn't bother me at all, plus until I upgrade my exhaust I'd rather hear something. Plus I'm not gonna pay 40$ just to plug a hole.

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>>17308063
>Owns car brand that's memed as "Fix It Again Tony"
>Talking about Ford's reliability

mfw

>>17308980
>Found On Road Dead
>not even aesthetically perfect to make up for it

FiFofags are the worst. Go away with you basic bitch cars.

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>>17309002
>aesthetically perfect

ur Abarth is a shittier Previa egg van, go die in a fire

>>17309002
>>17308943
>>17308922
Have any of you guys had any real problems with your 500s? I know the memes but euros seem to like them quite a bit.

>>17308886
Not coming to the U.S. of A.

>>17308865
Nah, not really worth the time and effort. Though it may improve the sound of my exhaust if I did. No need for the engine noise kazoo anymore.

>>17309352
It can be done for $5 in 5 minutes

>>17308865
Nah, I like it, makes the engine sound like it's doing something.

Cant find a stupid question thread

I was told my fiesta St needs a brand new engine, feelsbadman

Obviously being an idiot i won't be doing it myself, but is it really just as simple as buying another engine? Will there be loads of extras I'd need it buy as well? Annoyingly apparently there aren't any alternatives

>>17309591
Can't give you an answer without more info on why you need a replacement.

>>17309424
Like I said, I don't want to spend the time or effort, regardless of how easy and possible it is with off the shelf parts.

>>17309639
I hope this makes sense

Basically it's been burning alot of oil, I have to top up every few weeks. You can smell it and lots of smoke occasionally comes out the exhaust

I've taken it to a few people and they said it's either the piston rings, or the valve seals(I think they're called?)

After taking it apart and doing some tests, sadly he said it's both. Even the valves need replacing. All of this so far is coming up to like 1k+

Weirdly, he said he can't actually just replace the piston rings on the 2005 model, they're connected to something (maybe the pistons I guess i dunno) but apparently on this engine you can't just take them off and replace them

I actually phoned Ford to check if he wasn't talking shit and they said yeh its worth just buying a second hand engine

>>17309785
Oh, it's a 2005 Fiesta ST. I thought you were referring to a 2015. It may be cheaper long-term to just buy a new-er car, but if you're dead set on keeping your current car it sounds like an engine replacement is the way to go.

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>>17303309
>>17306329

cute car :3

going to try and put my badges on this weekend since the owner before me had them removed.

>>17307777

For the price, you just get so much car. And as weird as it is, I try to get something new/different every time I get a new car. This one seemed like an oddball that I didn't even consider until it sort of showed up on the list in one of those car finder websites. If I were to have only one car, I'd have probably gone for a four door FoST, but since it's my third and fun car, felt like a good choice.

>>17310094

I love the color of yours, and about those badges, leave them off! Body looks so clean without the 20 abarth badges all over it. They really did plaster the little thing with the logo anywhere they could.

>>17308922

Is that what you have to do for a short throw? The whole assembly?

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Henlo

>>17309186
I've had mine for less than a month, so cant say yet. If you're curious before buying do what I did and just search common problems in a fiat forum or just google, It'll give you a decent idea of what to expect.

>>17311150
That's the thing. Everywhere I go it's either "runs perfectly forever" or "in the shop more than on the road." There's no in between, so I feel like I'm taking a 50/50 shot.

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>>17311078
I'll consider the side ones since they are a bit over the top but i'm going to be putting on the boot one since it has a rather special badge for it.

>>17312578
Like with any car really though its going to come down to how you drive and I guess where you drive.

If you putting it into sport and reving the engine like crazy while its cold then its going to break a lot quicker.
Because the suspension is rather stiff if you drive around on bumpy surfaces then I would expect it to break a fair bit quicker.

The only issue I have seen which seems to be more on the car than the user is the boot loom getting cough in the boot resulting in it getting
ripped.

My mother has a standard 500 which she has owned for a good few years now (this its an 09) and she has yet to have any major faults with the car which was a reason for me buying mine.

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how is the FoRS as a DD ?
Is it really THAT much beter than a Golf R ?

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is this a gud kar?

>>17313620
It's basically a Golf in new clothing so it's about as good as a Golf. I think the engine might even be the same as in the GTI. I know it was in the first years when the Cupra was still called 20VT.

>>17313583
As a DD? No. As a fun car? Hell yes.

You trade comfort for fun with the RS, and also get something that doesn't look like a base model.

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Are there any hot hatches I can get as a poorfag? I detest car payments so new cars are out of the question.

>>17313627
20VT means it's got the 1.8T, right? That thing has so much aftermarket support it's not even funny.

>>17313930
st150

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I built myself a hot hatch. I put the 180hp VTEC engine from an Integra into my 94 Civic hatch. Weighs probably not much over 900kg with a mostly stripped interior. It's fucking fast, and such a sleeper

>>17313930
If you live in Europe, plenty (Saxo VTS/106 GTi, Clio RS, Ibiza Cupra, older Fiesta ST).

>>17313880
It looks like someone threw rice at an st.
So I mean your right, but not in a good way.

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>>17308838
ayyyy, MN fag here. We can only do 50% tint here. honestly doesn't bother me, looks good at night and doesn't affect sight too much.

>used FiST prices are pretty good in my area
>see that 2018 will have based three cylinder with the same output

Should it be worth waiting for the 2019 MY to give ford a year to work out the issues on a new platform, or do they usually get it right the first time?

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Here's my '12 GTI. I'm running Unitronic stage 2 software and supporting bolt ons, upgraded sway bars, upgraded control arms / eng & trans mounts, and Toyo Proxes R888r tires for the track. The damn thing is a grip monster on the track, allowing me to take on shit like corvettes and Porsches with relative ease. Of course depending on the drivers.
20 psi boost, ~290 HP, ~ 330 lbs tq. Very fun, sucks ass from a dig with my street tires on, wheel spin for days.

>>17314151
Ford hasn't even said for sure if we're getting the next generation Fiesta ST stateside.

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I recently got fisted but im not exactly sure if its an ST2 or what...

2014, 3 door, phanther black, grey recaros, sony with small screen, tint, illuminated scuff plates, darker wheels, red calipers.
Rain sensor, heated windscreen, projector style headlights, keyless go.

I was under the impresson from reviews and opinions that the speakers would be shit but i find them decent, highway road noise seem to drown them out though.

>>17300450
specs on those sparco wheels? looks nice.

>>17314211
meant this guy's wheels >>17300368

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>>17314151

Why would you prefer a 3 cylinder version with less displacement? Sounds inferior to the 4 cylinder in every way but maybe fuel economy.

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Anyone here own one of these? Thinking about installing a catchcan but I've never done it before and don't know if it helps much.

>>17314211
>>17314216
Pretty sure those are Sparco Assetto Garas but don't quote me on it.

>>17314271
read through the full thread before you ask stupid questions, like 3 anon have one.

>>17313931
Yes.

>>17314271
Are you going to wrench on it yourself and do you enjoy working on cars? Only reason you need an oil catch can is if you want to change your own oil and do your own maintenance.

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>>17314313
This anon is correct. Also do more research on the forums(insert stupid forum plug) I did my own for somewhat cheap just as a diy.

>>17314313
I do basic maitnences. Farthest I usually go is just belts, oil/coolant changes, air filter, and break pads/rotors.

A lot of people are suggesting I get one, but I've never used one before. I'll take a look on the Veloster forums tho.

>>17314151
I'd just pick up a '17.

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>>17300107

>>17311100
Supposedly, the entire assembly system was revamped.

>>17314322
stupid question but does the VT require premium gas cuz turbo???

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Has any bong or yuro driven a Picanto GT yet?

How is it? I'm planning on putting a deposit down for one when it's unveiled for Latin America.

>>17313620
Looks cool, better than mk4 or mk5 gold if that's what it is.

>>17303315
do you have the xdrive version? do you have the adaptive dampers and are they a must-have on the car ?

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>all these hot hatches that aren't available in burgerland

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>>17314890
It's a mk4. Pic related is a mk5.

>>17314216
>>17314291
Sparco Assetto Gara 16s, with a 205/50/16 tire.

>>17315033
Oh, and color is Matte Graphite with a lot of brake dust. :)

>>17314629
No. It get's optimized performance when using premium, but you don't need to.

>>17315062
thanks, yeah im becoming well aware of the brake dust.

Was thinking team dynamics pro race 1.2's but the sparcos looks good.

>>17315268
Yeah, the Team Dynamics come highly recommended, I opted for a slightly cheaper option. Improves the stock ride quality tremendously as well.

>>17315412
Other way around for me, can get pro race for €600 but the sparcos are €800.

>>17314908
The only think I'm upset about as that we don't get the Renaultsport megane.

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>>17315604
hhhnnggg

>>17303250
Lol

>>17315604
>check Craigslist for Fiesta STs
>only one, with rebuilt title
>even for an Abarth I have to go down to fucking Texas
Even for available ones there's hardly a market for them where I live. Feels real bad man.

>>17315724
Same, 4hr train and 6hr drive back to get mine. But it was worth it. Test drove a 3cyl base model locally to get some feel for it, big differance but the basics are the same.

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why doesn't the USA get the God-Tier A45 AMG?

>>17315897
CLA45 is the same thing but with more ass, and the GLS45 is the same thing but slightly lifted

>>17315903
GLA45*

>>17315903

I personally don't like the CLA, that design should be CLS only.

GLS? Isn't that the GLA or they changed the name?

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Got me a Renaultsport Clio 200 (pic related, but not mine)

Literally the most fun

>>17315941
1200kg and NA 200hp, whats not to like.
Too bad the newer one is a step back.

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My aftermarket exhaust keeps hitting stuff so I went to see if I could zip tie the hangers to stiffen them up. Holy fuck, these things literally feel as soft as jell-o, I'm surprised they don't melt during hard driving. Zip ties just made the rattling worse, so guess I'm paying the COBB merchant for better ones.

>>17315724
I just happened to get lucky and find one 5 minutes from me, but people love them so much they aren't willing to part which is my theory just be willing to travel

>>17316150
Yeah, I've resigned myself to going to Texas and getting one.

what do you guys think about Ford Focus st? I think I'm gonna buy it

>>17316472
I own one.
I like it.
It's a good buy, but test drive the FiST as well

>>17316472
I like it but I think the FiST looks better and is more fun but I'm biased because I own one.

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>>17300107
A veloster makes your image but no c30?

dat ass

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My EP3, where the Hondas at?

>>17317122
almost bought one I loved everything about it, the hatch, the shifter location, the fact it's Honda. Too bad Saturn won my heart

>>17317122
Almost bought one as well
>>17314493 is what I bought instead

>>17316517
>>17316701
I thought so too, but then I checked that the focus st is way faster that a fiesta st, this monday I'm buying it, I'm done being an autotragic I wanna switch back to a manual asap

>>17317277
okay man whatever you enjoy get it my nigga

>>17317277
>I checked that the focus st is way faster that a fiesta st

If you just look at power and 0-60 type shit you're gonna have a bad time. An enjoyable drive is about a lot more.

>>17317372
what other aspects should I look into?

I'm genuinely asking

>>17317405
Not that anon but you should look into how it handles corners and overall feels, granted the Focus is faster but the Fiesta feels lighter on it's very exiting a corner. plus the Focus is 400 lbs heavier for 50 more HP which isn't a great trade off

>>17317419
on it's feet*

>>17317419
Isn't it even closer to 500 lbs?

>>17317457
you are correct, my bad it's 500lbs heavier with only 55hp more

>>17300107
I want a small car but i don't want to be seen as a hairdress or boyracer

is such a thing possible? i don't get why ""compact"" sedans are not even small anymore, and coupes are just as long as sedans anyways which ruins the point.

>>17317652
>but I don't want to be seen as a

Who fucking cares what people think, especially when you're spending 10+ K on you'll be with for years

>the absolute state of the OP image

>>17317652
My St has stickers all over it.
I probably look like a huge faggot.
Do I care? Not at all.
Buy what you want, anon.

>>17319449
this

You don't buy an ST to impress anyone, because you won't. You get one to make yourself happy.

>>17319449
Unfortunately people's opinions of you do matter and you look like a huge faggot

>>17319841
People's opinion who are judging your worth based upon the car you drive aren't worth the time it takes to consider them.

In anything important people will judge you off something much more substantial, the fuckboy vehicle is generally a symptom of a larger problem.

>>17319841
sick projection buddy

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>>17319841
I drive around with this on my car.
Do you think I have any fucks to give about what other people think?

>>17319449
I have a WAT sticker on my fiesta ST

i wonder if anyone in real life knows i'm a fagg/o/t

>>17313930
Svt Focus but good look finding a decent one

>>17313930
EP3 Civic Si they're slightly more common than SVT Focuses

I have a MK7 GTI, Is there a way to flash the ECM without spending 1 grand on the fucking firmware file? I don't mind paying for the cable but Jesus Christ, I can get it done at a dealership for cheaper.

Anyone remember the discount code for mountune?

>>17321575
don't you just use an accessport (or similar) like the STs? Pretty sure GTIs make stupid gains on a simple flash but are more in jeopardy of damaging engine components from what i've heard

>>17322023
mountunerewards

Mind you haven't bought anything from them in 5 months

>>17304173
That's hilarious. I have a mkv gti and I try to race everyone.

>>17313583
>Is it really THAT much beter than a Golf R ?
Is it better at all? Fuck, I'd better go take a look at their stats.

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Yesterday I joined the hot hatch club with what appears to be the same car as everyone else here.

>>17322694
Didn't work.
Thanks anyways though

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Dealer offered to buy back at purchase price plus $500 cash then discount any vehicle on lot. I drive this car hard and it is impossible to not daily with ownership.

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>>17303182
Here

>>17323832
Should have seen if you could get a 350.

>>17301999
I just got a silver one.

Good car.

Ahoy p/o/rdners

I bought a Mazda 3 Hatch the other day for a really good deal but I absolutely hate the plastic hubcaps that come on it. Any suggestions for replacements?

>>17324614
Forgot to mention it's a 2015 i Sport.

>>17324614
just buy some oem alloy wheels

>>17324625
Well that's the problem. I don't want something plain or too flashy. I was thinking about doing some dumb shit like finding a way to slam Cragars onto it but idk if thats even possible.

>tfw waiting for mk8 Golf R revamp to upgrade

Too bad it will never get something as powerful as the RS3 :(

>>17324638
go to tirerack look at all the cheap wheels, pick a pair that fits your wants. EZPZ

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>>17316861
Agreed. Better looking than those other hatchbacks.

>>17324848
looks like a truck

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>>17322677
Something like 80whp. It's dumb.
I was unaware of the cobb solution it's relatively new. Thanks Anon.
Also what the duck kind of tires should I get. My friend says pirelis are shit. Is this true?

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>>17325059

>>17326420
The front-end design. Its very "upright" and doesn't flow backwards.

>>17326688
It looks better when not at an angle.

>>17304173
It's a 4 banger with a turbo, you should be racing civics enshit

>>17308838
I actually really like these

is toyota yaris a hot hatch?

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any Volvo goons here?

>>17327279
No?

>>17327319
If they still made the c30 polestar i'd buy one

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>>17326688
>>17327195
Not at that angle. Happy?
>>17327319
Sup bruh.
>>17327327
Get one used. I did and it's well worth it.

>>17327353
That's better.

>>17327319
You bought it like that...right?

>>17327721
what do you mean?

>>17323785
Try making an account and signing up for the email. Might get something out of it

>>17326302
not all pirellis are shit. some are quite good. "good" tires really depends on the size you're looking for and the type you want.

also yeah 80 whp is insane. the FiST makes only ~20 whp more on a tune (but a shitload more torque) and i'm quite happy with where mine is at right now and not worried about it holding up

>>17328456

https://www.samsclub.com/sams/225-40r18x-92h-p7-as/prod14310394.ip
Those are the stock Tires and the ones on there right now, Which lasted me about 60k miles.
I was thinking about getting these
http://www.mavistire.com/tire-brands/item.asp?id=44391&frb=B

I drive spiritedly from time to time, and I'm looking to spend 200ish max on a tire. I just have no clue about 'performance tires' and which brands are actually good.

thought this would be the right place to ask.
I'm looking for a 2nd gen MS3 with tech package.

http://bay-gulf-imports.dealerninja.com/viewer/ShowVehicle/200CB1F8-5D5C-7CF1-B4BD-4FE6EB9C5760

I've never owned a turbo car before. what should I be looking out for in addition to the basics?

>>17313583
A friend of mine let me drive his FoRS for a weekend while he was out of town on a short business trip and I absolutely loved it. That being said I had been wanting to buy a car for a while and I went and bought a Golf R later that week. They are both fantastic cars don't let the sperglords on here tell you any different, I went with the Golf R because DSG and the interior was just beyond what you could get in the FoRS imo.

>>17328868
I don't think anyone here says they're bad cars, just overpriced for what they are.

>>17328797
Low-Speed Pre-Ignition

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>>17327279
Soon.

Supercharged 1.8, 205hp, LSD.

>>17331179
Is it going to be AWD or FWD? RWD and AWD hot hatches make my dick harder than granite

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>>17331198
FWD, if you want a AWD Yaris you have to buy a WRC car

>>17331198
Probably FWD, 180hp isn't really enough to justify the extra weight and complexity of AWD.

For the Fiesta ST, does anyone have any experience with the ST200 air intake? Apperently its the same as Mountune one but with a plastic bottom. Original part from Ford and cheaper then Mountune.

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I-is my car a hot hatch?

Golf R or BMW 140i xdrive
Which one would you choose ?

>>17331389
Golf R, not a fan of BMW and I don't enjoy the 1 series either

>>17331389
>BMW 140i xdrive
Rear biased awd a best.
Fuck haldex.

>>17331389
BMW 140i xdrive, not a fan of VAG and I don't enjoy the Golf either

>>17331421
nicely worded my friend

>>17331421
why is it that no car magazine or review site has the bmw m135/m140 in their Top Hothatch list ?

>>17331449
because it's not that great obviously

>>17331357
It's the "hot" trim, so I guess?

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>>17300107
>Own a VW Cabbie from the 80's

>Is a pretty much a Golf but will never be a Golf because ragtop

>Proper Golfs cost 3x as much as the Cabbie did

>Will never fit in with the hot hatches

>MRW

>>17328745
you'll be happier with a summer set if you aren't somewhere that gets snow. if you are somewhere that gets snow then a summer plus winter set. especially if you want to put a tune on you will need stickier rubber to actually put down the power.

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80's were the golden age of hot hatches

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>http://www.carscoops.com/2017/05/five-door-2018-toyota-yaris-grmn.html
>205HP supercharged
>6-speed w/LSD

Holy shit, I want one, especially since burgers never get 3-door anything.

>>17333582
but it's hideous

>>17333628
Yeah that face is 1957 Hudson Hornet levels of ugly

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>>17323179

congrats on your meme car

>>17333582
>There's no word on when the production model will arrive but when it does, it will compete with other five-door hot hatches including the Ford Fiesta ST and Volkswagen Polo GTI.

We're not gonna get the 3 door version of that Yaris here either retard.

>>17324160
Australian by any chance? and in victoria?

>>17308676
Accessport,
Get a proper downpipe and get rid of the cat if you aren't in cali, then just get some nice tips for the stock exhaust and be done.

CPE exhaust sounds nice too.

>>17304711
400+ yeah.

Would a shitbox 2.0L 8v Golf Mk3 GL count as an (albeit slowish) hot hatch?

>>17308676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ph9azkUHKw

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Are rally armor flaps worth it?
I'm torn on buying some or not.

>>17334452
THEY ARE FUCKING GAY, MUDFLAPS ARE GAY

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>>17334473
Well I guess that answers that.

>>17334452
Yes, mud flaps are good

I put some on my Volvo and they catch about a kg of mud every week that would be been sprayed up into my car

>>17334494
I see.
Might buy them then, I'm less concerned about mud than I am the awful salty slush that is produced during the winter.

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>>17334473
you're gay

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>>17334473
This

/O/FFICIAL 2017 HATCHBACK NON-MEME POWER RANKINGS
1. Golfer
2. FoRS
-----POWER GAP-----
3. FoST
4. GTI Wolfsburg
5. Cooper S
------GAP------
6. FiST
7. GTI Se
8. Impreza Sport
9. Mazda 3
10. Abarth 595


……


69. v eloster

>>17337471
this is a pretty bad list and you should feel bad for writing it

>>17336834
Nice econobox. Too poor for a focus?

>>17337471
I'd put the FiST in 3rd or 4th, but that's me.

>>17337605
you can't put a fist over a fost

>>17337627
but the FiST is significantly better.

>>17337701
literally how

>>17337701
I wouldn't go as far as to say it's significantly better.
Though it is slightly better in most aspects.

>>17337720
fost= 4 clyinder 2l 250 hp
rist= 4 clyinder 1.6l 197hp

fost=much more interior/storage room

literally how is the fist better

>>17337732
It handles better and weighs less.

>>17337732
weight, distribution of said weight, vehicle dimensions lend itself to more maneuverability, cheaper running costs, holds value better

>>17337732
>mentions the added horsepower but doesn't mention the added weight for stupid features you don't really need.

Lul ur dumb

>>17337732
an SUV would have more hp and more room, why didn't you get one of those if that's all you care about

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I had no idea there were people who unironically would chose a fist over a fost

>>17337779
having actually driven them both, the fiesta driving position is much better in my opinion. The focus center console is really tall and hits your right knee as driving. That and the shifter is higher than a usual car. The focus interior pieces are 'bigger' making the car feel smaller than even the fiesta when you're driving it.

>>17337779
>useless gauges above the infotainment
>useless dual zone climate
>additional useless buttons on the steering wheel
>more useless buttons down by the lever probably for meme driving modes or traction control which the FiST just has on the center console.

Am I missing something here? I don't get what you're so enamored with over the Fiesta ST. Also, that's an older Euro FiST because all FiSTS in the US come standard with a full SYNC infotainment system not that base model bullshit eurocucks got served unless they wanted to upgrade.

>>17337845
>I don't get what you're so enamored with over the Fiesta ST.
tbqhwyfam it's cause I just bought a fost and didn't even test drive the fist cause for some reason I thought that was like the 'lil bro' version.

>>17337845
Those gauges are for oil temp, boost and oil pressure. Nice information to have.
The rest of the things you call useless have a function too.

>>17337866
>Those gauges are for oil temp, boost and oil pressure. Nice information to have.

Near every review for the Focus ST mentions how those gauges (the boost one in particular) are useless, they're small and near unreadable. Anyone who actually genuinely needs that information will already have it on their Accessport which you're already gonna have if you're racing or Autox'ing.

>The rest of the things you call useless have a function too.

How is dual zone climate useful? It's a meme.

If it's hot outside everyone in the car is gonna want it cold and vice-versa. You can't tell the diff between 73 degrees and 76 and even if ur passenger wants no AC they're still gonna get it from ur vents that are literally inches away.

>>17331179
U G L Y

G

L

Y

>>17337891
the "useless" buttons on the steering wheel are up/down volume answer/hang up phone a button you press to give voice commands to virtually anything you can touch on the screen, cruise control,

>>17337904
I was talking about the additional unnecessary buttons on the left side of the wheel presumably for cruise control.

I can literally do everything you said in this post in my Fiesta ST without the need for more buttons on my steering wheel because I don't need a meme D-pad for infotainment because mine doesn't have some over the top crazy infotainment system that needs to be navigated to do anything.

Left side is for music and right side is cruise control.

>>17337913
The buttons on the left control the screen in between the tach and speedo.
I just have it set to the digital spedo, but there's plenty of info in there like miles to bingo and how many mpgs you're getting.

I really don't know why you're so upset about all this. Both cars aren't that special.

>>17337934
>I really don't know why you're so upset about all this. Both cars aren't that special.
>Both cars aren't that special.

I know so why are people buying the Focus with heated steering wheel and other meme features like dual zone climate trying to pretend it's a Lexus, Merc, or something. It's an econobox with a turbo on it.

>>17337934
The middle scree in between the gauges is actually fun to mess with while ur driving and I miss it from my 2012 Focus Platinum.

>>17337959
I really, really don't think anyone getting a fist or fost secretly wanted a lexus. I don't see how a manual turbo hot hatch can possible lead you to believe that

>>17314017
love it

>>17310094
>>17306329
>>17303309
I finally did it. 2015 500 Abarth, had a half chub the whole way home listening to it.

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>>17337471
so will the new Typre R be no 1 soon?
whats your take on this car ?

>>17339379
I'd slot it in third for now until more comes out about it .
My take is that while it seems to perform well, it's riced to fuck when it doesn't need to be, will probably carry a 40k price tag and many would hesitate to call it an actual hatchback.

>>17337471
why is the Golf R first ? literally every online car rating puts it in 3-5 place after the FoRS and FiST

>>17339503
Not that anon, but it's a better DD than those two.
That's the only reason I could think of to put it first

>>17308676
>make it louder
Electronic cutout

>>17339379
how is that a hot hatch?

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It only had 120 hp but it looks cool.

>>17339503
I thought having focuses 1-3 would just cause people to stop reading there. Plus the R is a 40k car and the other 2 cost half that

>>17339503
I don't agree. FiST owner and I would still put the R and FoRS above both STs.

1. FoRS
2. Golf R
3. Fiesta ST
4. Focus ST
5. GTI
6. Cooper S
7. 500 Abarth
8. Veloster

>>17340251
Why? I mean if it was the same price sure, but it isn't.

It's a GTI with a tune and Haldex, which really only helps you launch and otherwise might as well be FWD.

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>>17340251
1. FoRS
2. new Type R
3. Golf R / Seat leon Cupra

rest doesnt matter anyway

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No S1 in this thread?

>>17340499
Weren't these like some ultra-limited edition bullshit?

>>17340644
I guess so. But I was talking about the regular base S1.

>>17337732
The focus has like, 20 cubic feet more room total, most of which is in the rear and backseats. The front seats have almost the same amount of room.

The Fiesta is also 500lbs lighter, so the 50hp difference is somewhat negligible. Oh and the Fiesta handles like an FF Miata, the Focus torque steers all over the place and attracts vapenation.

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Aren't Renaults available in US?

>>17340949
Nope. Only hot hatches they get in [the current year] are the hot Golfs, Fords and the Abarth 500.

>>17340952
you forgot the type r

>>17340923
>Attracts vapenation
I dunno man, i see plenty of faggot FiST drivers about as well.

>>17340952
>>17340970
And that hideous Hyundai thing that they are seriously approving.

>>17340977
Not disagreeing with you, but there's so many more Focus ST owners out there. I'm in a fairly large local ST group and there are probably 10:1 Focus:Fiesta, I can't tell you the number of bros I've seen buy a Focus ST, take it to "stage 3" and then try to sell it for "payoff" before the vehicle ever hits 10,000

Not saying there aren't plenty of faggots in Fiesta's too, there are just far less Fiesta owners in general.

>>17340982
also the v60 polestar if that counts

>>17307777
Cause the only fist I could find where 17k and I got my Abarth for 10k.

>>17304750
It's a 2012 with 90k kms and I had no problem except for a broken door handle.
Got the part from the UK for 8$ and fixed it in 2hours.

>>17341001
No, that won't count.

New thread up

>>17341710

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>>17300625
It looks great mind you. It's just autists wanting retarded Twingo styling.