Why does any supercar manufacturer even bother at this point?

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A conman in a shed came very fucking close using a Lotus and a boosted LS.

>>17297970
bc havig a 1000hp luxury supercar isnt the end all be all and i have way more fun in my lightweight 1.8l miata.

>>17297970
>chiron
>sports car
pick one. It's designed for going fast in a straight line. not exactly sporty. it's too heavy and big to be good on the touge.

>beat by a demon except in top speed
Boring gaudy car

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>>17297980
Following your logic this thing BTFOs them both.

Here's a hint for you: Making a car go 270+ mph one way down a runway once is pretty easy.

>>17297993
And the Demon gets beat by other cars in all regards apart from acceleration. Boring and gaudy.

>>17297998
Making it street legal is a bit harder, but yeah.

>>17298008
I'm inclined to agree, I'd never buy a demon. But then again, a demon isn't 3 million dollars

>>17298011
Easy when it's still "technically" a Lotus and you haven't actually built a new car.

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>>17298011
Come on, anything with four wheels and two headlights is street legal somewhere in the US. It's not a meaningful measure.

>>17297993
>beaten by a Demon with an optional drivetrain upgrade, slicks, passenger and rear seats removed and when running on race fuel
>Oh and it's not actually a 0-62 since they measured it with rollout, so it's more like 10-62.

FTFY

>>17298037
>Optional drive train
>Demon crate literally costs $1
>Demon is down 600 horsepower from the chiron and using an ancient truck engine
>Bugatti also has brutal launch control
>$80,000

>>17298086
>add rear and passenger seats
>do an actual 0-60 and not with rollout
>Demon is no longer faster

?

>>17298122
not to mention that it's a dodge and will explode for no reason

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>>17298266

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>>17298273

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>>17298282
how can VW even compete

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>yuropoors need to spend literal millions for horsepower

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>>17298285
the best part is that these arnt owned by non car people

>>17298293
squareheaded amerilard, your lack of education is showing.

>>17298332
Sorry, I forgot that yuropoors can't actually afford to drive anything besides 1.something litre shitboxes

>>17297987
Don't know where you drive, here in NY 1000-3000HP was the norm back in the late 70's..punched out, tunnel ram Pro-Stock engined, or blown and nitro burning with single piece fiberglass front ends etc... bring your own body guards if you win and want to keep your money... of course there where tons of mild modified stock muscle...wow you have a dominator..with a 4spd and lader taction bars ...wow...cough...Give me your milk money and your car!

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>>17298266
>>17298273
>>17298282
>>17298285
>>17298298
This guys right tho. Nothing but Koenigsegg can compete. And that's just because their both masterfully crafted, for their own thing. Pagani is a Italian madman's luxury rocket, Koenig a Swedish geniuses luxury rocket.

>>17298338
I wonder how many glucose injections you need to be able to type that sentence with your obese fingers.
But congratulations on knowing we use the metric system in the civilized world, you are already smarter than 50% of your country - including your president.

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>>17298298
>>17298285
>>17298282
>>17298273
>>17298266
Dear Plebs:
The person who owns a Pagani or a Bugatti, ALSO owns the other car. It's not a "hmm which ONE do I buy?" There was a stat from Bugatti where they said their buyers own an average of like 30 other cars or something by the time they added the Veyron to their collection.

The person buying a million dollar car does just have one of them. They get all of them.

>>17298345
No one. Lemme tell you no one, had 1000hp in the 70's unless it was a funny car/top fuel. Let alone 3000 with just a tunnel ram and some power adders. Nimrod.

>>17298359
You mean insulin? Yuropoors can't even into basic medicine

t. not an American

>>17297970
Keye-rahn or Schee-rohne?

>>17298367
Pretty easy to make lots of power with a massive engine and a blower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94uygIVthLw

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>>17298361
Also you are the same people who don't get why people have multiples of the same car, or keep the older versions of cars that have 'replacements'.
For example someone who owned a Diablo may also buy a Diablo SV, but keep both of them whereas a normal person would get a Mustang, then upgrade to a Mustang GT and sell their old car.

>>17298361
They have all of them but they sell or never drive their glorified VW, in favor of a handbuilt, piece of literal art, that has been made FOR YOU do drive its tits off.

>buy a car
>never drive it
Rich people don't make sense

You think Warren Buffet gives a shit about some nig with a Chiron in his garage?

>>17298378
>using modern engine architecture
>using computer designed intake manifolds for optimal flow
>modern metallurgy
>using modern turbo technology
Never said it was impossible. I just said it was not happening in the 70's for road cars. Especially wasn't "the norm" by any way.

>>17298358
this man gets it, but imo pagani should go with a free valve v12 twin turbo

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>>17298395
A lot of rich people do drive them like jay leno, Mr Bean or all these jewtube faggots who get a Lamborghini with their internet money. Even John Carmack used to drag his f40 and f50

Don't generalize just because you are jelly

>>17298419
That would be Mercedes that needs to go freevalve, but that's not gonna happen.. No ones getting FV for a while (a decade?)
Personally I'd rather have valves being computer controlled, rather than pneumatic, but whatever. I'm not smart enough to make it work.

>>17298426
>John Carmack
>As reported in David Kushner's Masters of Doom, when Carmack was 14, he broke into a school to help a group of kids steal Apple II computers. To gain entry to the building, Carmack concocted a sticky substance of thermite mixed with Vaseline that melted through the windows. However, an overweight accomplice struggled to get through the hole, and opened the window, setting off a silent alarm and alerting police. John was arrested, and sent for psychiatric evaluation (the report mentions 'no empathy for other human beings' and describes Carmack as 'a brain on legs'). Carmack was then sentenced to a year in a juvenile home
The fuq

>>17298439
Dude. That's kinda badass.

>>17298426
>>17298439
A guy I worked with maintained his Ferraris and has some good stories. They were all modified and had shittons of miles on them, lots of purists were butthurt about the guy. He would rent out a track and take all the techs to $300 lunches and dinners while everyone was in greasy work clothes. Seemed like was a cool guy and really into the cars, I heard he doesn't have any of them anymore though.

>>17298428
they are computer controlled, koenisegg made his own ecu from scratch so the engine is free revving

>>17298372
>medicine
that's haram you know

>>17298484
He had a 600hp twin turbo F50 and a 1000 hp Testarossa which he said had too much power.

He also gave away one of his Ferraris as a prize at a quake-con event

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>>17298372
insulin responds to glucose aka the level of glucose in blood aka blood sugar.

>can't even

>>17298266
Odd, it looks like thats solid airscoop/airfilter box.
It should do damage as the engine has to shake a bit.

>>17298624
>glucose injections

>>17298028
In most places it's literally just brake/head/reverse/turn lights, bumper/frame that extend to the wheels, and an e brake or something

>>17297970
If it's so great why doesn't it win any half or one mile events?

Yeah it's luxurious and fast for a production car but you could almost achieve the same thing with a TT Corvette and a couple hundred pounds of dynamat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPTNOvvvM7g

>>17298169
>>17298122
>VW
>Not exploding
Gg

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>>17297980
>engine swapped Lotus
>"""""original"""" american supercar

>>17299170
ameridumbs should be removed from this board 2bh

>>17297970
That car sucks balls

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>>17298358
thats right.
nothing can compete with the free valve technology as well.

>>17299153
only on 4chan will you find retards who genuinely think that some piece of shit freedom-mobile is superior to a million dollar car

>>17299197
Except the $20k pushrod crate engines that put out twice the power. Maybe you swedes should stick to Ikea and meatballs and shit.

>>17299220
>put out twice the power
And can be pushed further with minimal effort, or will run for millions of miles with minimal maintenance in stock form.
Feels good to be the best.

>>17299215
A genuine car enthusiast would almost always take the diy option that performs just as well. It seems like you're in the wrong place. Shouldn't you be on a Tesla or Apple forum? You fucking production cuck.

>>17299229
>diy option
>80k piece of shit """"""drag car""""""

pick one retard

>>17299243
Not an argument
Kek, another butthurt weeb nerd has meltdown

>>17299242
>Put another 10K into the $80k car
>race Chiron for pinks in the 1/4 or half
>win the arabmobile
>?????

>>17299254
or
>put 10k into piece of shit
>explode
>die

>>17299255
>80k ancient truck engine smokes a 3 million "automotive tech"
Kek you can't make this shit up

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>>17299220
>drive a corvette
>forget to do a cooldown lap
>5 minutes later

>>17299263
This explains why you don't have a car and is so angry about LS motors.

drag racing is the nickelback of racing, somebody call me when the demon can go around a bend at more than 20 mph

>>17299269
>3 million
>can't move it's self

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72jjJNdyFAw

>>17299300
>>17299281
>80s hemi v8 with a supercharger makes 800
>1500 hp quad turbo w16 still loses
>And AWD unlike the rwd demon

Holyyy fuck I'd be having a meltdown too if I was you

>>17299310
Meanwhile, we're all driving 3k shitboxes.

>>17299313
Hey man I drive a 1.6 miata. Some car banter is fun. Unless you're having a breakdown every time you type like the other weeb

>>17299224
>>17299236
>>17299243
>>17299263
>>17299281
>>17299300
>>17299331
t. busrider

>>17299322
You could always LS swap your Miata...

Kidding.

Supercars are neat and shit but it's like fucking an actress, just not going to happen.

I prefer amateur sluts and just drive my slutty stang.

Classic fucking /o/ thread

>this car is faster than than that car while being cheaper, therefore that car is retarded
>I have no concept of luxury
>I have no concept of refinement
>I have no concept of one badge being more attractive than another

>I have no concept of anything that matters so I just look up acceleration numbers and shitpost from the basement of my parents' house


Really not sure why I keep coming back here, every thread is the same

>>17299369
You are just addicted, like some salaryman who pays a woman in black leather to step on him and call him shit.

>>17299371
Not everyone wants tiny japanese steel engines. Let the LS orcs have their fun in the sun.

>>17299351
I like pushrods but I wouldn't fit one into my miata. Just gonna daily it while making it handle better.

>>17299382
Isn't the handling already pretty sick?

>>17299369
I've been here for about a day and I've gathered that it's just a bunch of jealous poorfags who don't actually like cars, but rather being better than other cars

>>17299387
Yeah but its definitely overated. I hear once you get the proper suspension setup is when it really shines. Frame reinforcement, coilovers, tires, and wheels is really all I want

>>17299392
Are the pushcucks wrong about it beating the Chiron in everything but top speed? Mart Sharting aside.

>>17299418
>everything

literally cannot go fast in anything other than a straight line

>>17299418
Just compare the specs of the Chiron to some modified street cars. A Chiron would get devastated if it ever showed up to a Texas mile. The pushrod powered cars would eat it for breakfast.

>>17299446
That would be a very lost Arab.

>>17299389
Just don't mention your car if it's worth anywhere above $50K. That's so far above the median here that no one will believe you.
Kind of sad, but understandable, as this board is full of LARPers.

>>17299458
Fly to dubai, put bread on a parked Chiron, fly back.

>>17297970
its acceleration is kinda slow for the money. A c5 with some bolt-ons is faster.

>>17299418
Nigger. Bottom line is that pushrods are small, cheap, and built to last. They don't sound too good (usually) but make power stupid easy. They don't rev high (which is a silly metric to rate a cars performance but whatever, I can see the appeal of 8-9k redlines) They'r environmentally considered "inefficient" by biased epa regulations and racing divisions which out favor them and ban them from racing so a lot of weebs, eurocucks, and bench racers alike hate them. They have their place for example the demon and z06 spanking cars 2-3x it's price.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n7rtkX7nl4
That bugatii is a 10 second car.

>>17299484
He spent less than half what the bugatti cost too.

stay mad euro fags

>>17299501
Kys my man

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>>17299492
>He spent less than half what the bugatti cost too.

I kinda pity veyron buyers now that the Chiron is out. Now they just have an outdated shitbox that costs $300k per year to maintain.

>>17299538
I am sure we'll see them for sale on craigslist soon.

>>17299538
they'll just buy a chiron and park it in their giant garage of cars they never drive next to the veyron

>>17299583
Doubt it, but the type of person that buys a Veyron isn't gonna want it anymore.

>>17299477
>3:05
>diff fucked

See >>17297998

Or see any of the Hot Rod Drag Week videos, like half the cars break down at least once when driving a measly 1000 miles.

>>17297992
HE DIDN'T TYPE SPORTSCAR ANY FUCKING WHERE ON HIS FUCKING POST!!!!

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LEARN TO READ

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>>17299538
>14.51
>americans are still bragging about this
lmao

Rumor has it the Regera did 0-300 kmh in 10.6 during testing. The Chiron does 0-300 in 13.6.

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>>17299371
True love. A colored fellow impregnating a white woman. Nothing is more erotic than interracial sex.

>>17298439
>However, an overweight accomplice struggled to get through the hole, and opened the window, setting off a silent alarm and alerting police.
Fucking fatties

>>17299477

Oh c'mon even my third world spichole have 7s street legals.

This one is Fag wheel drive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w5nRLk6TIo

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>>17299624
>b-but a 4 million dollar hypercar can finally keep up with a ls lotus built in a shed 5 years ago

impressive stuff there guy

>>17299653
>ls lotus

>bragging about engineswapping a european car
>dis our car now, murika stronk

Impressive stuff there, guy

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>>17299653
>shed
yes, a cuckshed. LMAO.

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>>17299657
>swap a basic american engine into a yuroshitbox
>outperforms pride of yurop hypercar

i agree

>>17299669
>outperforms
>slower

Impressive stuff

>only managed to sell 13 of them in 7 years
>meanwhile there's a 5 year waiting list for a Koenigsegg

Fucking BTFO, case closed

>>17299679
btfo. pushcuck on suicide watch

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>>17299679
>yurop needs to pay $5m and wait 5 years to go fastish
>c-case c-closed ;_;

>>17299690
you got a point here desu

in 5 years there's just gonna be an even faster car

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>>17299624

Both are still slower than a truck engine powered catfish built in a garage. It's really not a surprise why other countries can't make it to the moon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o0-i3nVJXI

>>17299690
>americans can't make the fastest production car
>closest effort is an engine-swapped european chassis, still registered as a Lotus
>doesn't do the same top speed test as everyone else, only goes in one direction

>haha guys we're the fastest, screw you
>our next vaporware car will be faster, we promise

Impressive stuff guy

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>>17299723
>b-but our $4m hypercar went slower, b-both ways!! ;_;

>>17299723
It should be really clear by now that North Americans don't give a flying fuck about production. We can build toys in out garage that outperform multi million dollar euro hypercars.

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>>17299741
>>17299716
Anyone can modify cars, including us. Case in point is this 6.4 sec quarter mile street legal car.

We're just better than you at building fast production cars.

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>>17299756
Lol

>>17299775

>high end sports model pic labelled as normal model
>high end sportscar pic labbelled as normal

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>>17299775
>first Pagani ever made
>18 YEARS between the two cars

Are you even trying at this point? I'm getting bored

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>>17299791
>>17299810
assmad

>>17299791
>dmgctrl

>>17299828
Quality arguing, I'd expect nothing more from an american tripfriend.

Like I said 15 minutes ago, case closed.

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>>17299756
>Anyone can modify cars
Has anyone else modified cars to near 300mph? not adding to the shitposting but generally curious.

>>17299810>>17299832
>1% faster around the track compare to a car thats 5% as expensive

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ok last shitpost, i have money to make :^)

>>17297970
Bogaddis are vw's for wealthy niggers.

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>>17299840
Many people

>>17299840
Do you mean in Europe? I'm not entirely sure, standing miles and top speed cars are definitely a bigger thing in the US.

That said, I think there's a 9ff Porsche that goes 270+. I'm not into the "top speed"-scene enough to know of any private individuals pursuing these things, but I'm sure there are some crazy Russians using cold-war airfields to go 250+ in modified Ladas or something.

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>>17299170
You don't get rich spending your cool million on one thing. Many mllionaires often own "nice" cars like this SM but not something like a Chiron because they're smart with their money. The ones that can afford a Chiron and still be rich are in another league entirely

Fitting that you chose a character that personifies excess, petulance and frivolous spending to represent you tho

>>17299186
Wat, even euros no Yurop shits up this board way more. Mods we need flags for this shitty board get on it

>>17299862
>i have money to make
yea, mowing lawns maybe. lmao

>>17298484
Bad ass

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>>17297970
The Chiron is just a list of big numbers but is actually shit.

Do you know why other super cars go racing?
Do you know why other super cars do track days?
Do you know why other supercars go to the Nurburgring?

Because they're actually meant to be a car that's the driven, the Bugattis are just a dick waving contest and are terrible vehicles.

>>17299170
>tripfag thinks rich people stay rich by buying stupid shit


wew this is a new low

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>>17297970
lmao like fuck competition amirite? that one guy is way better than my at that one thing. why even try?

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>>17300226
holy shit that hair is so beautiful. It's sad that women are usually only the ones with long hair.

>>17297970
All I see is a black car giving birth to a blue car.

>>17299986
Yeah, no.

The Chiron is an automotive masterpiece in its own right. The problem is that it isn't designed to race. It's built so that it can take you from one country to another quite comfortably but can also break the record for the fastest production car. In order to achieve such mind-blowing speed and still feel as composed and at-ease as a Bugatti should be, even at +250MPH, it must be built from bespoke parts specifically made for this singular effort, by artisans in their crafts, using the most expensive cutting-edge materials and methods.

This thing is fucking heavy because of all the shit it carries on board to maintain the composure of the engine and the driver at ludicrous speeds. It's built to be a road car. Yes it can go faster and be lighter and more agile but then it'd be uncomfortable and ugly on the interior and no good on public roads (where it belongs.)

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a no-fucks-given Arab prince take a Chiron and strip it down and built it into a race car. I really want to see that. But look at how expensive and special these cars are. It'd take a real petrolhead billionaire to do such a thing.

TL;DR don't hate on the Chiron

>>17300226
>bought by niggers who are ghetto rich and will be broke within the decade


lmao tripfags, when will they learn

>>17300347
>has no argument
>resorts to race baiting


hehe stay classy, negro

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>>17300364
>gets btfo
>resorts to ad hominems
lol

>>17300373
>uses a different trip

here's your (You)

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>>17299446
>everything but top speed
its better also in not falling appart, reliable, being well built, safe and all those secoundary things

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>>17300378
im not soviet and im not using a trip??????

>>17300395
here's another (You) to quench your thirst.

>>17300395
Here is the reply your heart desires

>>17299492
>He spent less than half what the bugatti cost too.
he already spent too much, in the end of the day its still not a Bugatti, and its just a shitty modified muscle car that cant turn or be driven for more than 10miles without breaking something.

>>17300404
>>17300411
sperg more cuck

>>17299167
Hey, remind me again what the most important part of a car is again.

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>>17300333
>tripfags
>no trip

>>17297980
How many world records has that got? Oh yes 0.