488 vs 911

How old are you OP? Just curious

>>17286126
Nearly 31. Was indoctrinated with Ferrari but now I do realise that real life data matter more than names

>>17286133

So now you will have to sell off your Ferrari collection

>>17286126
Why.. btw? Is it the South Park font or that the dimensions match the car's model? I'm not trolling/baiting. Just have a new-found love for Porsches

this thread makes my head hurt.

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>>17286116
I think the Gt3 Rs is the same price as a 488. also i think the rs was made in fewer number so less of them running around, the 488 will only go down in value unlike the Rs Porsche. But the Ferrari is a more of a "hey look at me" kinda car, it's more space ship like.. the Porsche takes on a more classy appearance, so diffidently not as flashy.

>>17286154
Yeah all none of them

>>17286195
Omg. Ferrari: better name, better specs, better looking, more expensive
Porsche: Wins in real life tests nearly every time
Discuss

>>17286221
>better looking

Wrong you fucking retard.

>>17286221
a fucking camaro is just as fast as either of them these days. 99% of the reason people buy them is because of the badge and the way they look.

>>17286230
I think the Porsche looks more classy.. i don't like that fuck boy look the Ferrari gives.

>>17286218
No, it's less than half the price at 143k whilst the Ferrari starts at 301k. Also the Ferrari has 661hp as opposed to the Porsche's 500. But the Porsche beats in on the track. THAT'S what this thread is about

>>17286231
A "fucking camaro" doesn't steer. Not even sure it has a steering wheel. we're talking real cars here. Not high-speed trains.

>>17286241
Erm, not for the 2016 friendo. All 2016 Porsche RS are well over 200k some sitting at 260k Also keep in mind that these are used. http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/listing/2016/porsche/911--gt3--rs/1641966

>>17286116
Why should I care about two cars I'll never drive?

>>17286255
/this


Honestly, no one here can afford either of these cars.

>>17286252
The GT3 is. Those listings are 1k mileage used in Top Gear and JewTube shit with ALL the options. entry level is still half the price of the Ferrari. And you don't need the RS or anything else to beat the Ferrari

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>>17286277
Forgot pic

>>17286255
>>17286266
Nice dubs, also, do you really only talk about cars you can afford? No. No one fucking does

>>17286277
Entry level is 175k bare bone. Also that Ferrari some time is going to be one of those cars anyone can afford down the road. it just keeps going down hill. Look at the Gallardo, that car is trash now. That Porsche gt3 is going to be worth 400k one day if not more.

>>17286277
>>17286282
I stand corrected, that Porsche price is excluding taxes whilst the Ferrari is in Canadough

>>17286296
>>17286277
The Gt3 RS... NOT the Gt3.. i'm taking about the Rs

>>17286296
It sure will. The 488 has no production limit, just waiting time. The GT3 is amazing no doubt there

>>17286303
No one needs the RS

>>17286266
>no one here
1/10 bait

>>17286266
>>17286255
You know 911s are easily attainable right? You can get a 997 for $30k and drive it everyday, rain, shine, or snow

>>17286433
And thats why you own a bicycle, right?

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>>17286453
Nah too busy buying a house. 911 comes after

>>17286477
>he's not a NEET like me REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Just buy whichever one you like, neither company makes an objectively bad car.

>>17286495
>neither company makes an objectively bad car
Porsche makes the Cayenne, Macan and Panamera

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>>17286495
True. But why is Ferrari the "Einstein" of cars when Porsche does better with less?

>>17286903
I'll just leave this here

>>17286903
Which are very good in their segment and make them all the money they need to keep building sports cars.

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>>17286932
True. But this though

>>17286952
That's a really clever way to get fleet average emissions down. They just buy a bunch of iQs from Toyota, change up pretty much every single panel as well as the entire interior and sell it as their own car, which in turn allows them to keep building nothing but V8- and V12-powered works of art.

>>17286928
>But why is Ferrari the "Einstein" of cars when Porsche does better with less?
it's all about the branding fampai

>>17286932
they also attract some of the most cancerous drivers on the road, at this rate it's inevitable that Porsche drivers will eventually attain the same reputation as BMW/Merc drivers.

>>17287031
That's sadly what the "luxury SUV" segment does. Same with every BMW X model, Mercedes SUV, Audi's entire Q lineup, basically every Range Rover...

>>17287031
>it's all about the branding fampai
That's my whole point (OP here)

>they also attract some of the most cancerous drivers on the road, at this rate it's inevitable that Porsche drivers will eventually attain the same reputation as BMW/Merc drivers.

I fear this. As a new Porsche fan, I see people don't understand/respect the car. But being objective, Ferrari's also are fucking Gucci man-purses to a lot of people.

>>17286116

you buy a ferrari for the experience and sound

you buy a porsche to dd and track

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>>17287067
>dd and track

bruh

Fuck ferrari

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>>17286116
911 is the best selling sports car of all tyme

Also 570s is cheaper than a 911 turbo
Britain is the king again

>>17286116
>still, the Porsche wins the vast majority of real life tests.

That's bullshit OP and you know that. Please show us some evidence for your claims.

>>17286116
I'd probably rather have a 911 Turbo S than the 488 because it'd be a way more reliable daily driver

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>>17286249
>A "fucking camaro" doesn't steer. Not even sure it has a steering wheel
Was he just pretending?

>>17286116
I don't care how fast the Porsche is. There's no fucking way in hell I'd pay that much for a 6 cylinder that sounds like a minivan. Plus you'll look like even more of a douche when yo inevitably snap oversteer into a wall.

>>17286116
>>17286133
>nearly 31
>uses lap times to determine if a car is good
Aren't you a little old to be a bus rider?

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they are different kind of cars and they isn't really much to compare

with buying a ferrari, you're buying the experience., the involvment in "high society" and ferrari invites you to their silly rich people events etc. nothing too much regarding the car itself or any real sports driving. It's just a big circlejerk. If you buy enough ferraris from them overtime, and get your rich friends to buy ferraris, they reward you by picking you to offer you their newest special snowflake cars they don't sell to normal scrubs, and invite you to more special events.

with the porsche you're mostly buying a car. Everything is about the DRIVING EXPERIENCE and not the social status aspect like ferrari. With porsche you can have european delivery and fuck about with your car in europe, and they'll ship it to your home country afterwards, or you can go to the driver's experience every year and they'll ship your car to the track after you sign up and drop it off in the dealership.

TL;DR Ferrari's user experience focuses on the social status aspect of owning a luxury sportscars with events, dinners etc. Porsche focuses on actually driving and not circlejerking with other rich people. Unless it's a classic porsche.

I want to actually own my car and not have the brand send me a C&D for doing things to my possession

>>17287954
American cars have shit handling, period. That's why our cars are used at every fucking bracket of racing except for the one where you turn left for hours. That's for the limited capacity of ameriburger's intelligence and car handling.

I don't know where you're getting your info. This site suggests that the 488 is faster across pretty much every measure, especially at the top end, than the GT3 RS. Of course, if I had to buy one, I'd still get the GT3 given the $75K price discrepancy.

>>17290764
Forgot site:

http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/1ct6zndtgn5l

Blowing out an absolutely rancid fart in a Ferrari feels a lot better than doing it in a Porsche. Dunno why. Maybe it feels more transgressive or something.

>>17287500
I highly doubt that.

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>>17286116
>http://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/1ct6zndtgn5l

You fell for the Porsche-meme

911

>>17291301
488

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The 488 is a one trick pony (heh), 2 seater sports car that's (sadly) mostly used to show off or kept in a garage.

The 911 however is probably the only sports car out there that can be owned as an only car.

>not too wide, has normal ground clearance
>no typical supercar issues like shitty visibility, tiny fuel tank or a shitty transmission that's awful at regular driving
>usable rear seats or decent luggage space, roof rack for ski or bikes available
>will not fall apart or ruin you with service costs if you put miles on it

And it comes in all kinds of flavours and with a ton of options to fit whatever you want to do with it. (I'd have a manual Carrera 2S with a ducktail pls)
Driving dynamics are GOAT, and all it takes is a GTS to keep up with supercars in case that matters.

The only gripe I have is the 991's light power steering (It's not that bad though, just not perfect). Apparently they fixed it with the facelift, but I haven't driven that so far.

The Ferrari is probably a great piece of engineering (same as a GTR, an Aston Martin Vantage or a Mclaren whatever), but the 911 is a different, somewhat unique kind of sportscar for a different purpose and not really comparable imho.

>>17291393
BS.

>>17291393
You fag can't afford a Ferrari that's all. Porsxhe is the Golf of sportscars.

>>17291285
>>17286116
wow what an amazing company

>>17292120
This one little faggot must be the single one that;s killing the rest of the 4chan boards with these fake bullshit stats. [Citation Needed]

We've already established muritard cars do not handle anything else than straight, dispite losing even 1/4 mile race, and turning left a lot during those laughing stock """""racing events""""" called Nascar. Get over it. No. Not happening. Murifags do not build good cars. Nor do they get music and food. No. It;s shit. Fuck off of this Japanese board.

>>17292120
delet this

>>17292120
This, and the C6 Z06/Z07s don't overheat, have leaf spring suspensions, and muh pushrods.

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>>17292120

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>>17292120
>>17293319
USA
USA
USA
USA

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>>17292120
>>17293319
>>17293328
>all of them slower than the GTR around the ring

>>17293343
And all of them faster than a Beetle with two extra cylinders and a big wing on the back, not to mention half the price.

Feel free to sperg out about muh GT-R though.

>>17286282
>do you really only talk about cars you can afford? No. No one fucking does
this is kind of the problem with benchracing busriders on /o/ though.
>lmao this car is so shit my civic with a few simple mods can beat it

you should at least ride in a car a few times to get an actual feel of it before shitting all over it.
I'm sure most of you would otherwise like many cars that you think are complete shit, be it because of the price, lack of power (which apparently means anything less than 1000hp), lack of torque, lap times and so on.

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>>17286116
911 is 423 more than 488, so how is this even a question?

>>17287097
uhhh hes not wrong? porsche is literally GOAT in daily driving dynamics while retaining world class tracking ability

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>>17293434
>18 more than a 911

488: Rich kid with no taste

A newer 911: Estate agent with coke addiction who likes "modern design"

Get an 80's 911 you pleb

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>>17293609
>S1071 more than a 929

>>17290708
So he wasn't just pretending, he actually was.

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>>17287097

porsches are THE sports car you can dd and bring to track on weekends

you fucking retard

>>17293005
looks like Chernobyl isn't the only thing in europ that's melting down

>>17291393
Who's buying a $175-200K sports car and worrying about service costs? Nobody cares about how much it costs to maintain their 911 or 488.

>>17294785
>worrying about service costs
It's not really worrying, it's more annoying.
Mainly because you know there's no way the services rendered are worth what's being charged.
Having the cash to buy a six figure car doesn't make me believe the floor mats are worth $250 apiece, or that it really costs $150 to change the oil.

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>>17294762

Well, think about it a little, Ferrari makes cars that are supposed to be rediculous. They make cars that look bold, almost obnoxious, kind of like Lamborghini does. Porsche has always been a company about functionality, and even though the cars they release might look lackluster next to a Ferrari, they beat them around the track because they're made to be more sensible.

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>>17293635
>1500 more than the s2000

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>>17294785
You'd be surprised how fucking cheap wealthy people are.

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>>17296176
>if you have money you shouldn't care if you're being massively overcharged

>>17296176
This...I've built kitchens for rich people, contract stated 40% deposit, 40% on delivery, 10% 30 day holdback. I'd show up with the boxes, looking for my 2nd 40%...them asking if I can hold on yntil the end of the month when whatever interest something was payed...
Nothing has moved off my trailer yet, so I just lifted and secured the ramp, and with them asking what I was doing, I got back into my truck and drove off...
I'd phone them back later and remind them that as per contract, I get my 2nd 40%...or no delivery...
Funny how they always seem to scrape it together for the next day...
Don't even ask about the 30 day hold back...that shit can go months...