Will it flop?

the sedan will do alright but the model y compact crossover will PRINT money.
most people buying new cars are couples and when car buying, the wife basically pouts and bitches forever until she gets the car she wants, which is almost always a crossover or SUV

now imagine that but "oh wow TESLA makes a crossover? Oh harold we have to have it!"

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>>17275693
>t. virgin

>>17275621
>Will a car that has 500,000 pre-orders flop?

Oh ghee whiz OP we just don't know yet if its something consumers will want

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>>17275710
>smug anime face calling others virgins

Not entirely, but reviewers will quickly find bad build quality and reliability issues and it'll stay behind sales expectations, and factory capacities may not be fully utilized.

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>>17275710
>posting smug anime
>calling others virgins
>t. virgin

>>17275810
Lazy ass fuck interior. Just a plain dash with a Fucking iPad in the middle

>>17275810
I ironically like this. The only change I would want is the screen built into the dash and not floating out like it is.

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>>17275621
It looks like a Porsche Panamera.

>>17275779
ice cuckolds BTFO

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>>17275781
>>17275799
nice projection

>>17275815
>implying you need more
minimalism is GOAT

>>17275810
That's beyond shitbox-tier. It's a fucking void with no trace of humanity or life. Sitting in that would make me want to kill myself.

>>17275880
>fastest tesla in production loses races to stock pigfats half its price in any race over 1/4 mi, sometimes even those
>mpg is matched by a bunch of foreign EVs
>no soundkino
>fuckugly

yeah haha really gettin em!

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>>17275890
Sure thing, bro.

>>17275621
It already hasn't.

>>17275916
>still slower
sperg more

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>>17275909
Gotta wake up and face that times are changing. Minimalism is the most appealing and sought after style now.

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>>17275923

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>>17276014
compare that to this and you will see why minimalism is what is almost universally preferred

>>17275710
it doesn't happen all the time, but it happens extremely often

>>17276046
This looks comfy as fuck 2bh. The minimalist room looks absolutely soulless and uncomfortable. And I know for a fact that these shitty modern sofas are utterly uncomfortable because I feel for the modern sofa trap.

>>17275621
I have no mouth and I must scream

>>17276046
>there are only two ways to furnish a room

SELL SELL SELL

>>17276091
that room looks dated af
the minimalist room meanwhile looks timeless

>>17275929
yes the fastest tesla still is slower than cars half its price, glad you're realizing this

>>17275621

that no grill looks terrible

mayybe with a license plate it'll look better, but i doubt it

>>17275942
Neither of those are minimalist. iPhone is fundamentally Bauhaus, favoring functional simplicity over everything else, but it certainly isn't minimalist, because it has color, abstract iconography, and other elements that aren't necessary. Android is essentially the same. Minimalism in design goes further and removes function, color, anything that is perceived as unrelated to purpose. It's a useful technique, but most people recoil against strictly minimalist art and design, because humans like a little flair and glitz. It's why many designers and artists wind up circling back to decadent Art Nouveau, Americana, etc.

>>17276091
congrats for having mediocre taste
please pick up your complimentary chrysler 300 at the door

>>17276103
>he wants to live in a prison cell

>>17276103
And dated is automatically bad? Things have to be uncomfortable just to not be dated?

>>17276186
I was not making an iOS vs Android comparison but the physical iPhone vs the physical Blackberry.

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>>17276186
Art Nouveau a best.

>>17276209
But the physical Blackberry is just fine, especially with the keyboard retracted. And it's FAR more functional than the iPhone because it leaves you options for input instead of forcing DOG SHIT screentyping on you.

>>17276186
so a "minimalist" would find a slate quarry too garish in color
reductionism is closer to the mark

>>17276227
Yet the iPhone is universally the preferred choice. It doesn't really matter that you are old and stuck in your ways, the rest of the world isn't.

>>17275810
absolutely no character. I'd go mad doing a long drive

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>>17275621
Nope, it's too late for that, Tesla has no serious competitor. Think about it.

>>17276274
>yet people fall for marketing
>it doesn't matter that it's the inferior choice in many regards

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>>17276206
If you look at current interior design trends, minimalism is incredibly dated. Right now I'd say that ecological themes with bold colors are the most on-trend.

>>17276286
>inferior choice
The free market has detected that that was a lie

>>17276288
because nature is less that a distant memory

>>17276293
The "free" market is rather gullible and incredibly easily manipulated. It's the same as in politics. You can convince Germans that Jews are the devil, you can convince Americans that Russians are the devil, you can convince Mussies that Westerners are the devil, list goes on.

>>17276288
Lots of Victorian inspiration in there. Might even be more neo-Victorian than anything.

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>>17276321
luxury gruel and cruskits is next

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>>17276319
Yeah. Like this interior from a San Franciso condo, which basically says "I want to be in a cabin innawoods right fucking now fuck"

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>>17276274
>the iphone is universally the preferred choice
no, no it isn't. what are you talking about?

>>17276456

lol what the fuck

not sure if this fad will last long desu

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>>17276014
I am an architect, and this is not real minimalism.
This is a 2000's trendy wannabe minimalist inspired style.
True minimalism is almost unbearable to live in.

>>17275810
>touchcancer

let me feel the buttons ffs

>>17276274
>>17276293
Look at this retard trying to justify his 5 year out of date phone with a $300 tard tax LOL

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>>17276456
neat thing about the industrial revolution
after they had found a way to mass produce all the useful items they would ever need
they had to invent something superfluous just to keep the infrastructure going
so floral pattern wall paper was the go to
later down the path comes planned obsolescence and the race to the bottom

>>17276512
and it should be cheaper
the minimal that a yuppy can bear still costs allot

>>17276456
The clouds on the ceiling were a bad choice. Looks like water damage.

>>17276188
A Chrysler 300 has more power, range and room. So actually it would be the better choice

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If I remember correectly a bunch of people that are actually buying it don't actually drive.
They're expecting it to come with autonomous driving so we'll see.

>>17276547
>feel
This will soon be a thing of the past.
Feeling is almost a forbidden thing nowadays, everything is "minimal", souless, flavorless, colorless, boring and castrated.

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>>17276280
What's this then?

>>17276567
>and it should be cheaper
Agreed.
The "Minimalism" people try to sell is just a gimmick word for "modern" people with some cash to fall in.

>>17276592
inb4 crashing Teslas from people thinking they're autonomous become so much of a problem that they're outlawed

>>17276274
>iPhone is universally the preferred choice
Because it's popular, doesn't mean it's good.
>you are old and stuck in your ways
Not to mention that the iphone design by itself is already old and dated.

>>17276599
a product that can't compete from a manufacturer that can't compete

>>17275815
>iPad
Teslas actually run GNU/Linux

>>17276599
A BMW i3.

Sorry, I mean a piece of trash for yuppie soccer moms.

>>17275621
not sure if this is a troll thread. every fucking nu-male coast to coast that can't afford a Model S is going to buy one of these.

>>17276645
How will the model 3 be different?

>/o/ can't afford it
>proceed to shitpost
Poorfags need to die.

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>>17276822
$40k electric car here. It's shit

>>17276638
I would like to point out that you are referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, GNU, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>17275810
Why is it so sterile? It doesn't look comfy.

>>17276111
My hope is that lazy faggots will use the auto pilot and it'll drive them all into brick walls and kill them. And Elon Musk will commit suicide. And all electric vehicles will be scrapped, and anything made of metal on them will be recycled to build more V8s
At least, that's how it goes in my dreams.

>>17276871
>16 kWh battery
>it's shit
No shit.

>>17275810

>gor rid of the fucking hideous crown victoria tier 2 spoke wheel

ugh. thank god.

still looks like ass though.

>>17276591
it's also overstyled nigger trash

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Why don't they round this shit off or put some fake grill or something? It looks terrible.

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>>17277077

>>17276871
weren't you the guy complaining that the electric range is so short and mad that you were "forced" to use the gas engine on a serial hybrid?

>>17277077
it looks like a small 3d printed prototype where they forgot to apply the grille sticker

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>>17276288
2013 called, they want their design trends back god damn I bet you have a manbun and airbuds as well you out of date failure.

2017 is all about grayscale contrast interspersed with bright accent pieces, as well as reclaimed timber and the surprise return of shabby chic. Minimalism is a thing inasmuch as the concepts of focal points and negative space are utilised.

>>17276014
>2017
>non linear varigated length laminate
>grey sectionals
>yellow speaker cones
>being unironically this 2013-ikea-catalogue-core

>>17276871
That's what you get for buying Government Motors

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>>17276274
>Yet the iPhone is universally the preferred choice.

Another mongoloid so caught up in Apple's marketing he doesn't even realize he's a shill.

>>17275810
>>17275815
>>17275890
>>17276638
>>17276277
>>17276547
>>17277043
Apparently that's a placeholder interior. In fact, there aren't even any air vents.

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>>17277188
>2013 called, they want their design trends back god damn I bet you have a manbun and airbuds as well you out of date failure.
Bruh, cool yer jets. The shit I posted was from the last couple of quarters and used the elements that you talked about, aside from the contrasting greys, which I don't like because I live in a place where it rains all the time. And from what I've seen recently, designers are getting tired of composing with nothing but grey + one color, too. Not sure why you think that focal points and negative space are innovations brought about by minimalist design, unless you're talking about the removal of objects to emphasize the connections between planes.

>>17277265
That makes sense, considering that a few months ago they hired one of Volvo's interior design leads to help them upgrade their interior quality.

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>>17277118
Yes

>>17276014
>>17276046
>>17276218
>>17276288
>>17276456
>>17277188
>>17277410

>/o/ - Interior design

i feel like dudes with a clean minimalist pads get a lot of pussy

>>17276014
I like minimalism but too many rectangles looks dated.

>>17277457
If it weren't for the fact that grown men who like minimalist apartments are nu-male cucks, too scared to go near women, sure.

Jin Bo Zhong Ji Ming Yang auto gonna chnage thr game

>>17277429
Fuck off you fag I bet you place two same sized objects next to eachother, use 8x11 area rugs for bedrooms and try to colormatch your sofa and drapes like a god damned queer

>>17277542
> I bet you place two same sized objects next to eachother, use 8x11 area rugs for bedrooms and try to colormatch your sofa and drapes like a god damned queer

I'm too poor for that :(

>>17277077
Aerodynamics. The only reason other cars have holes is to push air to components.

>>17277614
having a flat plane there is less aerodynamic than rounding it off, dumbass.

>>17277641
Did you reach that conclusion in your wind tunnel?

>>17277641
>my eyes are a wind tunnel
Get back to me when you have evidence faggot.

>>17277681
>>17277684
>not knowing basic aerodynamics
>thinking a flat plane is ever more aerodynamic than rounded surfaces

get back to me when you know anything about aerodynamics

>>17277721
So you know more than a company that employs many of the best engineers in the industry and has created a vehicle with the lowest drag coefficient in every segment they have entered? Sure bud :)

>>17277721
There are people on /o/ literally this stupid.

>>17277077
You still have to put the license plate there anyways

>>17276014
Minimalist design is a staple for people. Everyone should start here as a "basic" package. You only add more shit along the way in life that defines you or have some kind of meaning.
>>17276046
Eventually, the minimalist design will lead to this.

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>>17277188
I am an architect and I sincerely thought that picture were from the 80's. Fashion always recycles, huh?
>>17277410
This looks like a shithole from Italy where I've been.
>>17277542
>calls others fags
>knows about sizes, colors and shapes

>>17275621
No, it will sell well unless there is a catastrophic failure like shitty handling, the batteries exploding or the software trying to kill you.

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>>17275810
Looks like the future.

>>17275779
How many cancel before release though? What happens when the government takes away tax credits because it's sold enough not to warrant them?

Can it sell as much as a Corolla/Civic/Camry/Accord year in year out?

I doubt it

>>17277417
I think Elon Musk said the Model 3 was "pencils down" before they hired the designer from Volvo.

>>17275810
Looks like an hospital room.

>>17276871
Is that yours? Very nice.

>>17277041
It's 18.4 kWh.

>>17277422
I love the new shifter design. It looks like it has circuits inside.

>>17275889
OwO

Is it smaller than the Model S? I liked it but it's just 2big, I already have enough problems parking my A3 Sedan

>>17279149
Yes, it's a compact sedan, like the Volt.

>>17277077
I like it looks great.

>>17277740
Stop samefagging so hard

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>>17275810
Seems a little bit too minimalistic for my tastes. It looks more like they stripped everything out to make it as cheap as possible rather than it being an intentional design decision and you'd be reminded of that every time you sit in it. It's over twice as expensive as a Mazda 3 and the interior actually looks cheaper. Doesn't bode well.

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Yay, Tesla.

>>17279054
Yeah that's Salvatori CEO's Milan apartment that he opened up during Milan Design Week, so it's pretty much a product shot for their stone shit, because marble is in again for whatever reason. No way in hell his apartment looks like that day-to-day. That sphere thingy would make a nice kitty litter box I bet.

>>17279121
Disgusting. I'm not looking forward to seeing these abortions all over the place.

>>17279132
>It's 18.4 kWh.
Still a joke.
Tesla has up to 100 kWh

>>17275621
It looks like a fucking alien

>>17275810
>American engineering and design
>Dude minimalism is in right now
>Let's strip out everything and have create the most sterile, soulless car interior ever conceived

Top fucking kek, never change you fucking burgers. Masters of just not getting it and going so overboard it's beyond a joke.

>>17275621
I hope so. Tesla's styling and interiors are lowest of shit tier and this kind of faggotry should not be encouraged.

>>17279691
Supposedly it has more than half a million pre-orders, but there are questions about Tesla's ability to manufacture and support that large a volume of cars without collapsing.

>>17279446
It's an intergalactic spacecar

>>17279749
It's perfectly likely that half a million people have shit taste.

>>17276616
I hope this happens

>>17279445
Yes, but for $97,500. The Volt starts at $33,220, and has a greater overall range without needing to be charged, making it more convenient for long trips.

>>17276592
Elon Musk confirmed that the Model 3 will have level 5 autonomy.

Imagine how cool it would be to never have to tow a car behind an RV again. You could just tell it to go to the destination you're going to, and it will drive itself there along with you.

>>17279167
>he doesn't understand post times

>>17279445
>arguing about KWH
>not real world range
KYS idiot.

>>17275810
When I asked for simplicity, I didn't mean this

>>17280303
My Volt only has a 16kWh battery with 10.5 kWh usable capacity, but I get 40 miles under most conditions.

>>17277429
lol

>>17275621
Will it blend?

ITT: gay electric shit

>>17280590
why so small?

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>>17276046

Best interior., 8/10 would sit and read for a few hours.
That wooden floor looks like shit though, too light and boring style.

Pic related, I like it better

I'm kinda hopeing this is just a prototype and they are going to make this slightly more appealing. I don't think this is completely horrible.

I'd much rather see that screen setback into the dash and at the very least a Prius style or better Speedometer. Hey here's an idea, physical knobs who's function you can program via the screen.

>>17281231
It was most likely to keep costs low. The 2011 Volt cost ~$40,000. It was lowered to ~$34,000 for the 2014 model year, and again to ~$33,000 for the 2016 model year, along with a greater capacity battery.

Had GM used a significantly greater capacity battery from the start, the addition of the ICE would have made it too expensive, and being battery-only would have severely limited its range, considering other fully electric cars with a similar price only had a range of about 100 miles.

In my opinion, the Volt is much more valuable than the Leaf because of this compromise, at least for the present time.

>>17282026
If they were to put the screen in the dash, the dash would have to be made taller, or the screen would have to be smaller, or mounted lower in the car. The dash would either have to come forward, or the screen would have to be mounted further back, making it harder to reach. Seeing as the screen is such an important user interface, it would make sense to me that they chose to mount it this way.

>>17282536
well duh the leaf isnt as nice especially the interior

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>>17275710
>Weeaboo
>calling others virgins
k

>>17275621
No it's the new must have for all Starbucks sipping pseudo intellectuals, who need another object to project their economic and social status. This is the iPhone of cars.

>>17282573
Yea that makes sense to have it mounted as is and I don't think it looks terrible. I'd have to get in and sit down to see if it's comfortable but I'm sure their gonna focus test the hell out of it. Putting a single screen in there is probably way cheaper than having a dozen or more controls. Speaking of which why the fuck do cars in 2017 have CD players?

All I want is a nice factory speedometer close as possible to the windshield, or even possibly a HUD like what some of the new Mazda's and Mini's come with. Like I said that's one of the few things I like about the older and some of the newer Prius's.

>>17282588
I agree. Subjectively, I do like the interior of the Volt more than the Leaf.

>>17282616
I don't go to Starbucks often, but I would like it for the cost benefits over time, ecological impact, driving experience, and ability to refuel at home.

>>17284330
It would be interesting to see how much money it saves having most functions on the screen. Some new cars don't come with CD players from the factory anymore. Some GM cars with the newest version of their infotainment system don't have them.

I think a HUD would be pretty cool, but not having one wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, and there are some aftermarket one's if I decide later that I want one. I'm guessing it lowers the overall cost.

>>17284488
Yea anything they can do to save on costs are gonna be crucial. Even though I'm not a fan of say the newer Honda's not having a physical volume knob I'm guessing there are a ton of people that would really prefer everything just be on one menu, certainly cleans up dash clutter. The HUD's I'm looking at appear to be a shared part between Mazda, Mini, and Rolls Royce funny enough. As a driver I just want my speed in my view or close enough, and with the DC motors there's no point in any other kind of gauge except maybe battery.

Model 3 is going to make or break on how it compares to other $35,000 new cars and what the unit break event point is. The Model 3 has a few main features going for it out of the gate: Performance, auto drive, cost of ownership including fuel, and brand appeal.

If the base model is really going to be able to do 0-60 in 6 seconds that's better than most optioned out mid-size sedans and blows almost all other EVs out of the water. If they can replicate the Model S Torque on demand feeling at the lower price point it's going to be a major driving factor for sales. If they really are auto-drive ready, that feature set sells itself. Barring massive regulatory bullshit it's gonna be a thing on most "luxury" cars in the next few years that aren't performance focused.

Even though the initial cost is gonna be higher than what most working class buyers would typically spend, the lack of required maintenance, fluids, and fuel requirements are the core selling points, although California is going to try it's damn hardest to make them unappealing via heavy taxes to make up for lost money on the soon to be doubled gas tax. Range issues are still going to persist until battery tech can charge way faster and last much longer. For most people it will be a non-issue, for anyone who travels long distances on the reg or even occasionally it's gonna be a turnoff.

The thing about Tesla as a brand is it has major cred with anyone even remotely connected to the tech industry. Even non-techie people recognize the name and what the cars stand for.

Assuming the cars aren't total trash when they launch it's gonna be a major status symbol. As much as I loathe that kind of thinking, it's exactly why people own Ferrari's much to the ire of Enzo himself. Sadly this also includes the usual slactavists with their parents money (the kind with Bernie and Vegan stickers on their Prius), but nonetheless it will drive sales and influence decisions between the Model 3 and other mid-sized Sedans, and expect Tesla's marketing to target people in that group shopping for a new car in that price range, because anyone better off is either going to buy a Model S or other sports car, and everyone poorer isn't buying a new car to begin with, let alone anything that isn't powered by tech from a decade ago.

I can't wait for these things to be all over the place and see people scrunch up their faces when they hear my ricer shitbox.

>>17284523
>Barring massive regulatory bullshit it's gonna be a thing on most "luxury" cars in the next few years that aren't performance focused.
I hope GM makes their Super Cruise feature an option on the 2018 Bolt. At the current time, they've only announced using it in the CT6.

>>17276274
How is that true if it isn't the majority of the market ???

>>17282616
Pretty much this.
All the communication is basically about being the "iPhone of the cars" (ie a gamechanging mode)

>>17275621
>>17275810
This is the one with the ipad speedometer, right?

I can't imagine anyone liking that.

>>17279054
80's isn't in.

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Tell me how this interior pales in comparison to this new Tesla model.

Rumor is there will just be one physical battery size; all of the configurations will be software limited. This simplifies manufacturing, and people are almost guaranteed to pay for the upgrade down the road anyway

>>17280148
Not for a year and a half or so. But yeah it's coming soon.

>>17281412
Yeah, it doesn't actually looked like an old wood floor, I don't mind the style but the color is wrong for the furnishing.

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>>17286078

>>17275621

Has all the soul and character of a refrigerator.

But it's part of all of our automotive futures - gotta stop fukkenup Muh Planet.

>>17275810
I like it, fuck you guys.

>>17275693
>how to spot the guy that worked in car dealership

>muh soal
>muh pashun
You guys have great, objective and measurable reasons to bag on this car.

>>17286201
nah, i'm just going by what the industry is doing

>>17277805
maybe if you live in a KEK state.

>>17286086
Pre production test mule

>>17286245
>cannot drive more than 350 miles on one charge
>garbage interior quality
>awful build quality
>cheap materials
>will overheat very quickly if you even try to go fast
>limits power after too many launches

nigger is this objective & measurable enough for you?

>>17286066
Wow, that wood trim looks very nice, and I like the hidable cup holders. It reminds me of a computer desk.

>>17286770
The Model 3 is too early in it's production to know all of that stuff.

>>17286770
Only one of the six items listed is objectively true.

Can anyone figure out which is it?

Careful! This challenge has proven to be too challenging to comprehend for even the most clever of oilcucks!

>>17286831
>It reminds me of a computer desk
It's basically a computer desk on wheels, go figure.

>>17286856
so pretty much what 80% of the work force wants as a daily commute car

>>17286737
It's pretty neat how they're going for a unique headlight design on all of their models.

>>17286862
Yeah, and because the majority of people don't give a flying fuck about driving and this appeals exactly to them, plus massive tax breaks in certain markets, the Model 3 will be a massive hit and probably the start of a new era.

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/hyundai/ioniq/2017/2017-hyundai-ioniq-hybrid-and-ev-first-test-review/

Hyundai beat them to the punch and their new EV is cheaper, better, and, laughably, built by a company with better reputation lol

The magic period of release is over, Tesla missed the cut and will suffer for it.

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>>17286914
>hybrid
>124 miles

Its amazing that the auto industry still doesn't get it.

>>17286938
>Full electric
>175 miles in chilly weather with rolling hills drains the battery down to reserve power

>>17275710
You must have a wet hole between your legs.

>>17286770
Oh no! 350 miles! I'll surely be stranded.

>>17286914
The problem is that Hyundai doesn't have the brand image Tesla has. It doesn't matter that Hyundai got there first because Tesla consumers want Tesla.

>>17287094

Tesla consumers are the same people who trouble Facebook, Twitter, and even 4chan when it comes to profitability. They have no money and will be hard pressed to afford their gimmicky cars.

Banking on Millenials sure worked well for everyone else.

>>17286938
Currently the best Mpg-e rated car on the market so try again teslacuck

>>17287148
>Currently the best Mpg-e rated car on the market so try again teslacuck

Thats the Model S with 102 city / 107 highway MPGe

>>17287408

Did you even read the article? The Hyundai has 134 MPG-e and the BMWI3 has 120ish

Read before you post fucktard

>>17287148
That's great and all but tell me about the Volt and the Leaf and how great they did.

>>17287478
>EPA MPG 55 CITY/54 HWY

Nice.

>>17275621
Its MSRP is 30k. Not bad.

But its range is poor. 215 miles is dogshit.

>>17287608
It's plenty for most commutes. Sperg more.

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>I will never own a BMW i8

Feels bad man.

>>17275621
Nope

>>17275621
not likely that it will flop. Tesla did pretty good at creating an very upscale image to normies, and with anything that is perceived as upscale or luxury, their least expensive item sells to normies by the truckload.

>>17287620
You don't drive much do you.

>>17287684
Most people don't drive much. 215 miles is perfectly adequate for most commutes.
Keep sperging though.

>>17287703
>Have to add hours to your travel time if you want to drive anywhere more than 100 miles away.

>>17287713
>frequently having to drive more than 100 miles

>>17287716
As the other guy said, you don't drive much, do you?

>>17287723
see >>17287703

>>17287703
The only sperg here is you, Sir Spergsalot.

>>17287726
>I don't drive
>Therefore nobody does
>pls notice me daddy musk

>>17287736
see >>17287703

>>17287729
sperg more

>>17287741
How much Elon Musk semen do you drink daily? Quarts? Gallons? I bet it's gallons.

>>17287749
not an argument
keep sperging though

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>>17287741
>Claiming 215 miles of range is practical
>I don't drive therefore nobody else does
>Anybody but you being the sperg

>>17287760
see >>17287703

>>17275621
WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST MAKE THE FRONT SMOOTH REEEEEE

>>17287760
I commute 75 miles. Explain to me why a range of 215 would be a problem.

>>17287783
you want to go somewhere right after work?

>>17287767
>I-i-i-if I k-keep repeating it, it's true ;_;
>>17287783
The range is going to be much lower if you live anywhere with cold weather or hills.

>>17287788
You charge it during work hours?
>ICE cucks are this stupid

>>17287791
see >>17287703

>>17275810
Literally the Apple of cars. Stripped bare of any functionality but normies will want it, because "muh design over function" bullshit.

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>>17287795
>Make retarded claim
>Keep pointing it out
>Implying it's going to be 215 miles anywhere but fairly flat terrain in warm weather

>>17287805
see >>17287703

>>17287795
>You charge it during work hours?
congrats if you are one of the lucky few that can do this, but surely you recognize that is a tiny fucking percentage of people

>>17287812
>Please read my fanfiction daddy musk

>>17287821
sperg more

>>17287825
Can't sperg more than u, bby.

>>17287830
I mean it's pretty easy to replicate after seeing so much of it. This thread was pretty much gone to shit anyway.

>>17286770
Bruh I get the same range on my fucking Accent hatchback on a full tank.

>>17287830
>being so lazy you can't plug a car in
what the fuck?
this is so out of left field I don't even know how to respond to it
what would compel you to take this line of thought?

>>17287788
Yeah I might decide to drive ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY FUCKING MILES AWAY FROM MY HOME after work.

Do it all the time

Dumbass.

>>17287875
well you commute nearly 40 miles each way to get to work, so you must have to travel quite a ways to get somewhere
I can think of several instances where I would take a slightly extended trip after work
I'm talking about going out with friends, going to baseball games, seeing a movie

for me and a number of my co-workers, these things would take right around or beyond 200 miles

>>17287907
>right around or beyond 200 miles

Your max use case is still within the bounds of the range.

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>their are people on this board who unironically like electric cars and the idea of self driving cars taking the place of cars now

>>17288038
If electric cars weren't so expensive and overengineered I'd unironically love to have one for a dd if nothing else. Personally I don't really like the direction Tesla is taking with the automation and computer controls, but I can see the appeal to a lot of people.

i love the way the front looks without a grill. the idea of putting a number plate on there is really sad.

tesla needs to invent a new number plate system that isn't so big and fucking ugly.

is it voice controlled inside? that would be comfy if it had an echo thing inside for radio, seats, AC etc and I wouldn't give a fuck about physical buttons then

>>17288038
I'd get one in a heartbeat if I could afford it, as long as it has around 500km+ range. Even though I love driving, I hate the noise of combustion engines.

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>>17288081
>overengineered

>>17288177
>having casual convo in my brand new Tesla with fancy voice controls
>"hey did you hear that new song on the radio?"
>car hears "ON" and "RADIO" in the same sentence, turns on radio
>tell it to turn off
>doesnt hear me well enough over music, volume turns up
>car can't hear me at all over radio
>song ends, dj starts talking
>"up next we got Left Turn by the Intersections"
>car turns into oncoming traffic
>die

>>17279121

The designer Tesla got from Volvo works on interiors
>And booooy do they need him

>>17275810
Holy fuck that's terrible and lazy.

>>17288038
I'm looking forward to it, as long as I can drive my own car still.

Self-driving cars will programmed to follow all traffic laws, not just some of them. That includes Slower traffic keep right/Keep right except to pass.

Can you imagine coming up behind someone in the fast lane, and they actually move the fuck out of the way?

>>17275923
>17275815
>shit in the toilet
>entire place smells like shit
Remind me to never commit a crime.

>>17288523
I don't think most people will care about cars following laws that slow down traffic when they don't have to actually drive. Driving is a fucking chore and thats why everyone is willing to break the law to do less of it.

>>17288177
Yes
>>17288494
You have to tap a button the wheel to start a voice command

>>17287590

haha yeah keep reading and notice they made the car in 3 drive trains including EV

Fucking teslacucks

>>17288460
>cut everything off the car except the frame and power, including the mindfuckingly large amount of sophisticated electronics in that particular car
>claim it's simple

>>17288547
My point is, self-driving cars will necessarily follow those laws for regulatory approval, resulting in a much better highway experience for everyone.

People who think driving is a chore will get to do whatever while they just ride, and people who love driving won't be held up by idiots hogging the fast lane and matching speed with the slow lane.

>>17288588
I'm most excited for how much safer self driving cars will make driving a motorcycle. Ideally it'd be impossible to rear end or cut off a motorbike for lack of seeing them.

It's easy for poorfags to hate on Tesla because they will never be able to afford one.
However they can afford a Civic with some simple mods are a 30 year old V8 shitbox

>>17288576
^This

>>17288602
Yeah, that too.

Self-driving really is a win-win for gearheads and regular folks alike.

And drunks, for that matter.

>>17288038
>people in THIS VERY BOARD commit the No True Scotsman fallacy

>>17288038
>I don't commute in bumper to bumper traffic in a major city: the post

I hope Atlanta fucking subsidizes these things, I'm tired of 285 and 400 being fucking parking lots

>>17276188
>Complimentary 300
Yes please sign me up for that

>>17289093
This is the entire reason I have been watching Tesla for years. They are the only goddamn company to fucking really care about self driving.

I always wanted a car that angry virgins could hack into and kill me out of bordem and then laugh about

>>17275810
Looks like a kitchen.

>>17289673
Seeing as you are illiterate I wouldn't worry about $35k cars ($33k above your price range)

>>17275810
where the fuck are the instruments
no way would I want to be looking at the central console to check my speed
they wouldn't do that, would they?

>>17276046
you are saying you wouldn't live there? wtf?

>>17275693
I'm the wife and would prefer a sedan. i think you are right though, it's very easy to tell when a woman made the decision on a car.

>>17288588
>My point is, self-driving cars will necessarily follow those laws for regulatory approval

http://uk.businessinsider.com/tesla-fatal-crash-speeding-autopilot-ntsb-report-2016-7

>>17286914
124 miles is a lot less than 215 or 238. The capability of the Model 3 to reliably travel long distances and level 5 autonomy are big selling point to me.

>>17275621
I've seen like 5 of them in the last two months and I live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, WI.

>>17277166
you going to start selling full size novelty gill stickers ?

>>17288495
I know, but the news of Tesla hiring the new interior designer (sometime in December) came after Elon Musk reported that the Model 3 was "pencils down" (sometime in July).

I think they're going to update the interiors of the Model S and maybe the Model X around the time the Model 3 is released in an effort to differentiate them from the Model 3 and make them seem more upmarket, as to not lose Model S/X sales to the Model 3. The production version of the Model 3's interior may be different than that of the prototype, but if what Elon Musk said is true, it wouldn't have been designed by the new designer.

>>17288494
>>"up next we got Left Turn by the Intersections"
ha

>>17276014
This is absolute garbage. A way to spend out the ass while shopping at Ikea.

>>17276046
This, although dated, is much much better, other than the floor.

I live in central London less than 5 minutes from a charging station and am a Musk fanboy. Unfortunately I'm a poor student.
That said I am looking forward to the future competition and seeing how that plays out

>>17288494
10/10 would buy
T-Thanks Elon Musk

>>17288494
oh hello concerns from 2007 about bad voice commands how are you doing back there

As far as I can tell the only negative opinions about it are uninformed ones

>>17290076
>instruments
Just let the computers take care of everything.

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I would feel more comfortable with Tesla if Musk and his disciples didn't feel the need to tell us that we're dying out and all facets of traditional car culture will disappear in 10 years. If I had the means, I would actually consider an EV as a DD if it meant that I still could own a Panther latform vehicle until the day I become too senile to drive. I just want the smugness to go away

>>17292431
ICE will be a relic within 10 years.
The fastest production car around the Nürburgring is electric. The next record is around the corner.

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>>17292441
I don't care if most people stop using ICEs as long as enthusiasts can still keep a few going. Hell, I don't care if the general public adopts level 5 EVs, but there's no need to jeer at people who keep them running for fun despite their drawbacks. ICEs may lose their appeal to the average Joe and the tech enthusiasts, but not for everyone.

I just want to drive my crown vic in peace

>>17292476
ICEs will probably remain legal but with very high taxes
Expect to pay $5000 / year for driving an ICE dinosaur

>>17292476
There's no place for your "fun" in a sustainable, eco-friendly future.

>>17292480
Eventually, but $5k a year? I doubt it, considering that classic vehicles and recreational driving are still romanticized in American culture, so there will likely be some inertia there. In my state (PA), they just loosened the requirements for classic plates. It may not last forever, but such changes usually aren't as sudden as some want to believe

>>17277077
I agree it would look better if the lines and curves merged together.

It would've made a better statement to let the bumper continue but still have the no grill look.

>>17286770

Most cars cant get 300 miles on a full tank asshat.

this thing will do 350 miles for less than a gallon of gas.

Which is the whole fucking point.

>>17275621
Yes

>>17292561
any car made past like 1998 can get 300 miles to a tank lol

it's ~$10 for 300 miles at current electricity rates. so youre saving 50% on gas, but it costs 100,000 dollars and can't go far.

its an expensive iphone for richtards

>>17292431
I live in California and haven't met a smug hybrid or EV owner yet. Maybe you're just unlucky?

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>>17292591
Neither have I, but it has more to do with those who think their urban basic income utopia will be in place in 20 years who would legislate ICEs and the surrounding culture out of existence if they had the power. They have tarnished the Tesla brand for me, and since it has been a dream of mine to eventually get the finances and skills to keep older cars running, I feel threatened.

hopefully the model 3 has a regen braking paddle like the bolt

it's super fun to drive with one peddle and just regen braking

>>17293047
I've never tried it, but I see that a lot of people like it. Driving the Volt in L is sort of fun.

>>17290698
Why do you crossdress anon?

>>17292561
>Most cars cant get 300 miles on a full tank asshat

Are you fucking retarded?

If your car can get at least 30 mpg combined, it will likely go well over 400 miles on a tank (13-17 gallon tanks are pretty standard).

>>17292561
Can the Tesla be fully recharged in less than 5 minutes?

Yeah didn't think so fag

>>17293174
This. My civic can do 450 miles easily

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>>17275710
WARM THAT BOI PUSSY UP IM COMING OVER

>>17279173
>mazda 3 interior

that looks equal or worse than the 3's

all I see is cheap generic plastic shit layered with more plastic shit.

Better than a Chevy interior tho kek

>>17276599
A complete piece of shit

Anyone driving that instantly looks like an autist

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>>17277422
>buys GM

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAA

>>17275693

Every day I'm more and more glad that my fiance isn't a bitchy American-born rage-whore.

Her reaction when I suggested that I might sell the WRX to get a cheaper more reasonable commuter car so we can have more savings for a house:

>>Wtf why?
>>The WRX is cool - you love that car and I love that car.
>>I'm not gonna tell you what to do, but IMO you should just keep the car.

>>17294895
>Keeping a car you can't afford

Jesus and you think you have a good wife for manipulating you into that?

>>17275779
Thats right - preorders are sales :^)

>>17295415
>Get a bunch of people to preorder teslas
>They make a shitload and then everyone pulls out
>tesla finally goes bankrupt

why does no one do this?

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>>17289813

angry virgin detected

>>17292441
>The fastest production car around the Nürburgring is electric.

No it isn't you drooling twatlord.

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>>17296788
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance
:)

>>17296807
>Falling for the chinaman meme

I will concede it's fast as fuck no doubt about it, but I don't see it going into production.

Unless it already has or they've made moves to do it, in which case I'll admit I'm wrong and a fag.

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>>17275810
>ftw pooinloo can make better interior then """"""""""""biggest"""""""""""""car manufacturer in burgerland

>>17276014
Fuck you need tv fo,fool?You can get 100% of your entertainment online!

>>17296822
That's fucking horrifying.

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>>17296807
hot swap battery's are its pimp move
then you have spares charging while you drive

>>17296874
Tesla Model S is actually hot swap capable, but there is only 1 station in Coalinga, CA, but demand is low and they're shutting the program down
http://www.teslarati.com/tesla-shuts-down-battery-swap-program-for-superchargers/

>>17296807
Slower than the P1 LM.

>>17275621
the one they gave sam harris broke down

they pissed off reddit basically, thats the one thing you dont do when trying to sell overpriced crap you market as being green while in reality its an ecological disaster

>>17296950
>>17296807
>>17296788
speed doesnt fucking matter
electrics will destroy everything in the 1/4 mile that posers own (so anything stock or made from ebay parts) but they cant bothered to go over 130 mph reliably without it failing or exploding, so anything faster than that or in the 1/2 mile and theyre dead in the water
(oh anon but what about these highschool kids that made it to the 7 second club with a converted transam?) its not a factory car and its electric drivetrain isnt any other car, may as well include jetengines at that point)

>>17294895
jesus christ you chose wisely anon

Mid century modern best interior design style.

>>17296807

>"Production car"
>*might* make 9 of them
>you remain wrong
>suck it up

EVs are undoubtedly the future, albeit with much improved tech than current shitters.

>>17296822
>"better"

By which you mean disposible single-use, yes?

>>17286086
American build """""""quality"""""""