what is the most reliable engine ever built?

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not only the engine, the car itself.

i once met a guy who did a million km with it not too long ago.

>>17266267
Cummins 6BT by a long shot

7.3 Powerstrokes can get up to 1 million as well

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chebby enbine is gooder

>>17266267
any N/A ej25 stock

>>17266287
bait

Chevy pushrod v8 old new anywhere In between. Low end torque, over built bottom ends, simple proven valve trains.

>>17266340
If gas engines this. Diesels are easy mode

>Mercedes 240D mentioned nowhere
Guys, come on.

LS1

Corolla and Civics from the 2000s

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>>17266267
Ls400 confirmed for goat

>>17266639
These engines get run until they burn more oil than diesel. And even then, they still run, it's just no longer economical to drive down the road.
Source: Sis has a W123 240D ***Four Speed***

Detroit made straight 6's.

Nobody has mentioned boosted rotaries? My friend's dentist's cousin made 35PSI on his 12a rotary camero and it has over 500,000miles on it

>>17268003
2001-2003 1zzfe (the one with vvt-i) had piston ring issues

>>17266267
Probably something out of a Volvo. Those cars are fucking lame as hell, but they are AWESOME for reliability and commuting. I wish I had a reliable Volvo DD. That way, I wouldn't have to put so many miles on my Corvette lol

>>17266267
The 5VZ-FE (used in the third gen 4Runner) is my gold standard in terms of reliability. I've never heard of one lasting less than 200k miles.

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>>17268115
Nah. Rotaries, from what I understand, need those damn seals replaced every 100,000 miles and that is literally having to tear the motor down to pull the rotors out and replace those bastards.

>>17268138
That's only if you have the valve timing set wrong

>>17268023
I have an sc400, want to trade?

>>17266267
>drive a million miles
>waste enough money on gas to buy three other cars
b16 any day. Tune it for 45mpg or tune it for 300whp.

>>17266267
The 1uz was engineered so even niggers can own it.

>>17266279
>Ford reliable
You shouldn't be allowed to speak of a cummins.

>>17266305
>head gasket meme
>shit power steering pulley
>ringland failure
Yep, totally.

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>>17268127
Literally bulletproof, you could probably run this thing using canola oil instead of motor oil.

>>17268250
kek, true

>>17268400
this. redblocks are fucking amazing.
their modular engines are also very reliable, but the redblocks still come out on top.

>>17268127
>Those cars are fucking lame as hell
TAKE IT BACK

As the other anons said though the redblock is fucking indestructible, though. Shit, even when something goes catastrophically wrong it's a non-interference engine (remember those?) so you don't end up with an unholy union of piston and valve.

>>17268184
Pic?

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>>17268266
>ringland failure
That's only the turbo ones, NA isn't stressed enough for it to be an issue.
>shit power steering pulley
Never even heard of that. Nothing wrong with mine.
>headgasket meme
I'll give you that one but anything newer than 2004 doesn't have that issue, and just about all of them pre-2004 that did have been fixed at this point, including mine.

>>17268400
What engine is this

>>17268551
Follow the conversation, man. Volvo Redblock slant-4.

>>17268551
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_Redblock_Engine

>>17268571
>en.m.
why can't we ban phoneposters

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>>17268576
Because it's the most autistic thing possible to be triggered by

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Not the most reliable but the L series engines (L28 in particular) are pretty fuckin reliable

No Ford 4.6? Specifically the detuned-to-hell SOHC version in the Crown Vic.

>>17268589

I pulled apart a 200k mile l28 that still had cross hatching in the bore from the factory.

pretty stout.

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>>17266267
Ford 250 Crossflow. Straight six making max power at 3900rpm. Good for a million miles.

>>17268250
But niggers shouldn't own it,

These are cars for white people.

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>>17266267
When "most reliable" is not subjective.

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Nissan RB30

>>17266278
Hasn't he rebuilt the engine like 4 times though?

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>>17268258
>I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about, the post

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2002-f-350-powerstroke-passes-1-million-miles-still-counting.html

>>17268127
ive been considering a '97 volvo 850, should i buy over a corolla?

>>17269342
I think that's the guy with the 3 million mile P1800.

>>17266267
>No fan shroud
>worst swap ever

cast iron mercedes diesel from the early 80s
they dont ever die
oh and you can run them on kitchen grease so thats a plus
theres a rumor of a W126 diesel in south Africa that has well over a million miles

are serious replies allowed?
because the most reliable ICE would probably be a low revving two-stroke diesel like they're used in large ships.

>>17270370
F

>>17271040
pre-combustion chamber diesels were the shit, fuck direct injection.

>>17268266
ringlands are 08+ WRX/STis
never heard of power steering pulley
After the HG is replaced on the older ones they can go for hundreds of thousands of miles.

>>17269209
only motor certified by the FAA for airworthyness

>>17268400
I have seen quite a few of redblocks that while still running are only making power off of two or maybe three cylinders. Yeah they won't actually die.. but they can be in the dieing process for quite some time.

For gasoline, the most reliable is probably the ford inline 6 4.9. When the engineers use gears as they fear a timing chain on a understressed OHV engine might not last long enough.. it means the engineers have quite a long service life in mind.

>>17271160
I always thought that cam gears were quickly ruined by the knocking stress on the cogs caused by the cams. That's why later OHV used chains too, no?

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>>17268589
Gonna have to say L series aswell.. When you consider they are used in construction equitment and as a marine engine its pretty easy to understand they are reliable.

>reliability meme
any engine can make it 500k+ with proper care.
hell most of them can make it 500k without proper care.

the cars become clapped way before the eninges.

>>17271373
if by proper care you mean overhauls, then sure

>most engines can do 500k without proper care
no

Saabs B207 and the H series are pretty bulletproof too, a lot of 900S have crossed the million mark

>>17271389
no I don't mean overhauls. keep pretending your shitbox has merit because it can do something most every other engine can do.

there's nothing to break. if the tolerances are good the bearings are never going to spin in 500k without being abused in some way.

>>17266267
Why would you ask us a question and then immediately answer that question? Your thread is stupid. Faggot.

>>17271634
This guy is right, most engines will long Outlast the cars they were originally fitted to. There are obvious exceptions, Subaru EJs, rotaries, Ford duratec, but most engines will do 500k with proper maintainence.

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junked out 351w is best engine

rolled over 300k miles, only started burning oil on startup, (little bit of blue smoke puffs out on start and then stops)

cant wait to fuck it up by trying to rebuild an engine for the first time in my life

From personal experience I have to say the second generation of GM 4.3 V6. The 88-94 are really durable. I have over 325K on mine and have never even took the valve covers off. It has been in the family since 50K miles. It's really durable and takes a beating. A lot of people I know use them in project vehicles too.

Side note it's coupled to a 5 speed and I get 25mpg.

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>>17271729
Old Red or The Onion

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3v master race, zero rebuilds and its blown.

>>17271729

I still see a fuckload of Astro work vans left. My neighbors Astro has around that with only oil changes.

Any engine that see's usage as a fleet or work truck gets respect in my books. They get abused with little maintenance and have to haul around the weight of the truck and cargo. That's a little more impressive than a 2500lb shitbox that gets meticulously maintained and used to get groceries.

>>17272311
Yep lots of Astros around me! They just won't die.

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740/750i, the rest a shit

VQ35DE and VQ37HR, though they may burn oil, they last forever

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>>17266267
Currently at 220k c:

>these engines can go over a million miles if properly maintained

That's every engine ever.

>>17268138
tearing down a rotary is easy enough even for a five year old though

>>17272474
2/10 shitty bait

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>>17272450
>BMW V8 from the 90s/early 00's
>More reliable than any other engine listed

>>17272450
What is Nikasil?

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I'm really jealous of all the 90s Lexusfags in here. I'm looking to get an 89-99 LS as my next car. Always loved them.

>>17266267

6 bolt mains, properly capped cams. Everything mounted correctly and securely, loom is completely sealed.

>>17272594
There's a 750 with 560.000 Kilometers for sale here lol

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5VZ-FE with a manual trans is what I would go with

Another option is the 2uz-fe
Generally toyota has made the best engines for reliability
Few exceptions exists
2zz oil pump gear can fail at 8,000 rpm
7mgte headgasket was not torque correctly from factory due to last minute material change
22R is great unless the water pump is not replaced every 60k miles

Toyota automatics might be the longest lasting in the industry
Fords and dodge automatics are the worst
A million hard mile 4.7l tundra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL7fyyUNRmA

>>17272640
never seen this image before. Saved

>>17272450
>>17272679
>750
>"A" 750 with piles-o-miles

plz.
My SBC will be running long after that 750 is recycled into half a dozen kei cars.

>>17272704
What is a SBC?
Shelby Cobra? lol

1.9 TDI

>>17272679
They aren't known for doing that consistently though, Volvos and Mercedes from the 80's are known for odometers going well past that.

>>17272778
Please be trolling

Small block chebby

>>17272778
Small block Chevy, yo!

>>17272704
Good thing the junkyards are full of them. SBCs have mediocre reliability at best. The best thing about them is when they blow, there's 20 waiting at the junkyard to be had for cheap to swap in.

Seriously, you build 100 million of them and at least a few should go a million miles.

>>17271669
spotted the fag with no car due to his car breaking down because he doesn't have a reliable engine. stay mad bitch

>>17272640
I got two LS400's a 98 and 97 I posted earlier in the thread if interested

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>>17268485

>>17273465
I'll post more pics when I get home

I'm in Cali btw

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>>17273465
I can't even afford to look at a car right now anon otherwise I'd be interested.

>>17266267
its actually the ford 250 series. they will do a million and half miles and just get on with the job...

or semi engines will easily do 5 million miles... take a seat lexus you aint even in the same league

>>17268593
Came here to say Ford 4.6, specifically the Crown Vic.

Every other part of the car will eventually break, but the engine itself just keeps going and going, 400k+ miles including mad amounts of cop/taxi/drug dealer idle time.

CVPI tranny blows out at ~120k if you ever have fun but w/e

>>17268593
The last revisions of the 4.6 2v are stout but the first ones were not the most reliable engine. Especially compared to the ford's i6 300.

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>>17273483
Well the 97 is the one for sale and I'm in Florida so I don't know if those things are a deal breaker for you but I'd still like to see the sc400 pics.

>>17273527

No worries anon, you will get one someday soon and you will love it even more knowing how hard you worked for it.

>>17273765
Pic unrelated btw just a nice looking LS imo

>>17273765
How much is the '97? I'm in Florida as well and been trying to get a 97+ LS400

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>>17273765
Hopefully. I just want to make the exhaust burble a little bit after I get one, but largely aim to keep it stock.

I feel like that glorious V8 is too quiet on these cars. All that whole marketing of the "lol lexus so quiet" ideology...but I wanna hear it a little bit.

Are there any benefits to owning 97-98 as opposed to a 90-93? 25 yr classic insurance in my area tells me I should aim for the older models but the newer ones might be more refined.

>>17273859
98-00 is the most desirable for several reasons. First of all you get all of the suspension and brake improvements from the second gen revision in 95. Also 98-00 models received variable valve timing which brought power up to 290/300 hp/tq as opposed to 260/270 on older models. Definitely don't get one older than 94 as they had terrible brakes before hand. All years are pretty rock solid but if you're looking to do exhaust work it's much easier on pre VVTI versions so 97 might be your best bet. 98-00 models do 0-60 in about 6.2 seconds which is at least a second faster than earlier years if you care about that kind of thing. My 98 just hit 150k and everything works no problems even the clear coat is solid

>>17273881
Sorry for block of text, I'm phone posting

>>17266287
>3 places to add coolant
Yeah sure buddy that'll last forever

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>>17273765

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>>17273881
damn that classic insurance really made the older ones appealing. I like the look of the later ones best anyway desu. I would love to fiddle with the archaic GPS but for some reason I don't think most traditional Lexus buyers at the time cared enough to order the option. I've never been in one with the nav before...

>>17273906
What year anon? Looking for 98+ models

>>17273909
Don't get ones with nav, you're right it's archaic and your phone does it way better. Plus, cars with nav don't have nakimichi audio which is a tremendous system (easily the best of its day) . Thankfully almost no 98+ cars seem to have been ordered with nav, they're hard to find

>>17273906
it's a 95 unfortunately. only 160k miles too

>>17273923
>cars with nav don't have nakimichi audio

ah, didn't know that. i've seen some LS that say Pioneer on the cassette door but Nak did the speakers I guess? They were a high end brand, part of the reason I won't even look at one where the radio's been ripped out and replaced.

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>>17273925
It's in great shape though anon I really like it. It probably would not have worked out anyway. How has your interior held up? Mine is nearly pristine except for the drivers seat which has developed a small tear on the bottom of the back. I guess I need an upholstery shop...

>>17273909
Classic car insurance typically place mileage, storage, and use restrictions on the insured vehicle so it's not the panacea people would assume.

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>>17273942
mine is basically new except for the blacked out climate control lcd and torn the fuck up drivers seat from previous owner not fixing passenger side door

>>17273940
Yeah the pioneer system is definitely good for the time but sounds maybe a little dated today. The nakimichi system sounds nearly as good as the premium audio in my fathers new A6. It's really that good

>>17273951
Always like the SC interior. Minimal and elegant

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I'm gonna throw the Ford 6.2 on the list too. Horrible MPG, but they're built better than the 4.6/5.4, and those engines weren't bad in the first place. Try to look online for major Ford 6.2 engine problems and you won't find all that many.

>>17273959
the sc is dope af but idk the ls400 is perfect. so minimal yet perfect

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>>17273977
If you're ever in the area man you can take my 98 for a spin whenever you like. I think everyone should get to drive these cars. I'm definitely borderlined obsessed with the car so I probably over-hype it but idk it's fucking great.

Good way to escape the noise and crowds of any international auto show was to climb in the back of a newly displaying LS and lock the doors.

Silence.

They also have rarely updated them in the past decade so you know what to expect...

>>17273995
how much were you selling the car for? just curious. if I was in Florida I would definitely fuck with it. what do you think about the ls430?

>>17274011
98 not for sale, it's my daily. 97 I would probably want 4500 for since it's literally pristine 89k miles

>>17274020
damn that's super low mileage

4500$ is reasonable. here in Cali all Ls/sc Lexus cars either have 200k plus miles or were owned by ghetto people who neglected the shit out of them.
one with 89k miles would be like 6-7 grand out here.

Florida must be a haven for Lexus'...

All those retirees...

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>>17274031
Yeah Cali is fucked in terms of used cars it seems. Here, 5k is a reasonable price for a 98 in pretty good shape ~150k miles. I payed 4K for my 98 with 110k since the guy thought the brakes were fucked (he mounted the bracket between the pad backwards and 100$ worth of parts fixed his stupid mistake) only pic of 97 I have of car atm is the one I posted earlier of the two of them, it's the one on the left. It had New York plates back then. Here is slightly crappier version of pic

>>17269177
These are cars for people.
FTFY

>>17274056
Interesting point. Driving a 97 and 98 LS400 back to back is a night and day experience. 98 is firmer without compromising ride and steering is more communicative. Overall handles much better and has loads more power. Does 0-60 about a second faster than the 97 both cars are unreasonable comfy though 97 gets about 18mpg 98 gets 19mpg mostly city driving

>>17268136
Seconded, you can beat the shit out of them and they just. keep. going.
Followed by those god forsaken slant-sixes.

>>17274083
I think a 2000 ls400 and a 2000 sc400 would be a dope car combination.

Too bad they don't come in manual

also have you ever attempted a timing belt job on one of these? my timing belt is due and I'm taking it to a mechanic

I got quoted 700$ for parts and labor

>>17274105
That's about right. I remember paying right around that amount maybe a little more since it was at the dealer. Wasn't my car at the time but the old man always took it to the dealer so whatevs. Anyways I don't think that's an unfair price for genuine parts.

>>17274120
thats a good price , highest quote was 1200$ lol I was like I'ma call you right back

>>17272693
The UZ series engines can be a real pain to do the timing belt on depending on which type it is, and I would put 'ease of repair' under the umbrella of reliability.

Also, if the starter motor fails, you're gonna be taking the intake manifold off to get to it.

>>17274250
Don't forget power steering pump leaks frying the alternator, although that's revisited in later models. I think it's the later VVTI engines where timing belts are the bigger issue

>>17274279
I just remember my coworker doing a 2UZ and having a shit time.

Toyota power steering pumps are definitely the least reliable ones for leaks, even worse than Falcons.

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So the early 90s LS's aren't worth it?

>>17268138
because a piston engine never needs its timing chain replaced, valve clearance set or headgasket replaced after that kind of mileage right? and it sure is easier to work around a small rotary than a fuck huge modern 6+ cylinder.

>>17271634
you have no idea what you're talking about. shops are literally filled with engine failures after barely 100k miles. and not because of bad maintenance but purely because of shitty design. and I'm not talking about fiats and kias either.

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>>17274324
All LS's are "worth it"
The entire run of the LS400 through 2001. The later vvti models had more power but the vvti motor was not as ridiculously overbuilt as earlier motors, but still overbuilt compared to the 3uzfe in the ls430.
The 2002-2006 LS430, especially the 2004-2006 models were probably the pinnacle of toyota's craftsmanship.
2007-2016 LS460 is proving to be as reliable as the 430's with some teething issues on the 2007-2009 cars. You just don't see the Sales numbers that the two previous gens enjoyed. After 2011, the gaping grill got a little out of control. Late 2009 cars are the sweet spot here. The hybrid LS600 is probably reliable, but has a cvt. There really isn't a point of buying that car on the used market when you can score a 09ish LS460 with around 70k miles on it for inder $20k. Note that the LS460 uses a timing chain, as opposed to the belt of the earlier cars with the 1uzfe and 3uzfe. But even poorfags should be able to plan and budget for $800-$1200 of timing belt + water pump expense every 100k miles without much issue. especially considering how well the car will treat you in regards to low overall running costs.

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>>17268095
I agree.
Especially the OM 616.
Makes no power, but runs on anything somewhat similar to diesel and never dies.

>>17272471
Beautiful.

>>17266267
>Chrysler 4.0 i6
Why else do you see so many Jeep Cherokees on the road? I'm not a huge mopar fan but Chrysler did something right when they made that engine.

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>>17274074
Yeah that's what I said.

>>17274417
>Chrysler
More like AMC.

>>17274438
There's a reason why AMC went under, and it damn sure ain't because of the engine that they didn't design.

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>>17266267
The Honda C25, c27, and c32 can really rack up trouble free miles as well. I'm pretty sure that in addition to timing belts, that valve maint is needed, but fairly simple stuff. Also, motor is mounted N/S instead of transverse like most FWD cars.


Occasionally a clean one will pop up that has been cared for and not owned by Jamal, or punished by the poisonous snow melt salt.

>>17274443
They really didn't "go under"

They just got dismantled and reincorporated under Chrysler. Who wouldn't had made it out of the 80's without the former AMC assets that were not trapped in the 60's.

>>17274456
What a shame. I wonder what AMC's cars would've looked like had they survived independently through the 90s and 2000s.

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>Tfw New England
>tfw very few cars get to 250k miles without completely rusting away
>cars being junked even though they run fine
>if your car is on the road between November and march it WILL develop cancer and it WILL rot. No matter how much you wash it.

It's an awful feel. When can we outlaw road salt?

Buying an 00 LS400 at 135k miles today guiz. What to expect?

>>17272693
>Toyota automatics might be the longest lasting in the industry
Helps that they've probably been using the same fucking four speed for 30 years or more.

>>17273573
>CVPI tranny blows out at ~120k if you ever have fun but w/e
That's why the J-mod exists.

>team designs 4R70W
>Ford decides to change shit around for no reason and make it worse in every way
>one of the original designers says fuck this and makes his own guide on how to make it shift like they intended it to, while simultaneously letting it run cooler and last longer

>>17273650
Only real issue on the earlier ones is the intake manifold (easy replacement) and the timing chain guides (moderate replacement), both of which were fixed after '03, no?

>>17274503
Oil undercoating. Every fall.
I have a car from 1989 that I've DD'd several years in VT/NY and the engine leaks oil from just about every gasket at this point. It drips down and splashes the undercarriage while I'm driving, and I've never cleaned it off. The parts that have been splashed with oil still have perfect factory paint underneath, while the "clean" parts develop rust.

Poorfag oil undercoating: load used motor oil into a harbor freight paint gun and go to town.

>>17272693

The 2AZ-FE has the headbolts that strip too.

Also the piston ring, oil sludge problem that's been lingering since the late 90s.

>>17274452
those Legend coupes have such nice posteriors

>>17271591
>tfw b205r
Other than the sludge issue (although not changing the oil in a turbo car is just asking for trouble anyway) I don't know of any common problems

>>17274527
make sure timing belt and water pump were changed at 90k. make sure valve cover gaskets aren't leaking.

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This begins and ends with the ford 300 I6. All the japs shit can take a backseat.

5S-FE in my Camry is still going strong after 284k miles.

>>17273942
>>17273951
How is the knee room in these? I've driven older Camrys and they just don't have enough room and my knees jam into the dash if I scoot close to the steering wheel as I like. I looked at LS400s for a while but decided to keep my own car for the time being.

volvo redblock anyone?
barely have to do anything to those engines to keep them going.

>>17272477
know from personal experience?

>>17268551
read the filename friendo

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>>17277360
that is a VERY good engine. about as durable as they ever made.

this is a close second. it has some minor parts that break though.

>The OM617 is considered to be one of the most reliable engines ever produced with engines often reaching over 1,000,000 km without being rebuilt and is one of the key reasons for Mercedes' popularity in North America.

>>17270391
actually that one was only rebuilt once, the owner later said that he didn't actually think it needed a rebuild though

>>17266267
>>17269209
I want this in an AW11

This would be my go-to project swap

>>17270370
personally I like the late rear wheel drive volvos more (240 and 740) but for the right price it could be good. depends on what you want it for.

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>>17272778
either a summerfag or a summerfag trying to troll.

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>>17273859
Owned a 92
Motor ran like a top
Car had only issues though to no fault of its own.
Previous owner didn't take care of it, and hit a deer
3 days into buying it, found all the issues. wheelbearings, ball joints, differential, followed by water pump, tensioner, and valve cover gasket about a week after. Oh and not to mention the leaking sunroof. Only paid 200 for it though.
Was amazing fun for as long as I had it.
Even with all the issues I had, I'd still recommend one to everybody.
If you're aiming to make ~400+ hp I'd aim for a pre 95(94?) They came with ticker rods that have been known to last til 650whp not to mention the dif turns into an LSD eventually, very weird, but very true!

>>17277609
Simply not american?

>>17277575
>minor parts that break
Ford did the same dumb shit in the later 300s. To make the engine quieter and ensure service they changed the steel timing gears to phenolic gears that tend to go to pieces at 200k. Changing that and the oil pump that ate some pieces was not fun in a twin traction beam f150. But after that it was ready for another 200k

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>>17278154
the mercedes diesels had stuff like rubber elbows rot after 20 years. and fuel pump seals
thats what i meant by minor. timing gears are not minor.

>>17278195
Well, now I'm tempted to lift my S12 and put a merc turbodiesel in it.

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>>17277892
what are you talking about, everyone on the internet is an American.

>>17269342
Aren't you a pathetic butthurt toyfag though?

>>17271634
>not realizing all these old shitboxes are on like their 4th engine

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F24a4 pushing 435k miles. Engine has never been opened. 00 accord se.. On its 4th trans tho.. If it was manual it would be bullet proof.. I had a f24a4 in a 91 accord coupe. Made it 530k but body rusted out.. Engine still had 180 across the board on compression and ran like new..

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>>17278552
Meant f24a4. Not f24a4 lol.. Also my 91 mazda protégé. 336k original engine and original manual trans. Mazda BP 1.8 twin cam same engine as miata. Escort and some kias lol. Fast enough and won't die

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>>17271634
Is this bait?

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>>17278570
Spell check really I retarded... F23a4 in 00 accord f22a4 in 91 accord.. Ffs lol

RB20DET

aka the greatest engine ever built.

>>17278492
Haha projecting!
Typical non million mile master race cuck. Xd

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Anyone have any comments on the VG30ET? What's the reliability like? What is it like to fix?

>>17273859

Currently own a 93. 88k miles on it when I bought last year, now at 94k. Even though the previous owner completely neglected to do the water pump and timing belt in 23 years of owning it, it wasn't terribly expensive to replace that, along with a a leaking power steering high pressure line, and an upper control arm that wore out.

Those major items aside, a PS return line is leaking, but it looks like it's not over the alternator, so I'll hammer that out soon enough with along with a weeping heater control valve. I also intend to delete the rear mufflers from the axle back to get a bit of noise from the V8.

The typical old car annoyances aside, an LS is a car you can buy to hold onto for a long time.

>>17278658
Owned a 300ZX for a while, here's what I learned
>reliability
Vacuum leaks and fuel leaks, rubber goes bad, idle controllers go bad, MAF sensors go bad, fuel pumps go bad
>repairs
A cunt to work on, but not as bad as the VG30DETT

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>>17279085
Thanks, I'm thinking of getting a 300ZX so I want to know everything before I take the dive.

>>17279099
Get a post-87 turbo model, they're the best looking and take kindly to mods. The VG30 is, for its flaws, a capable engine, stock internals are good for at least 350 HP and the ECU is compatible with Nistune. Plumb in an intercooler and a few of the usual mods and you'll have a reasonably fast car.

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>>17279115
>post-87

But that means it will have that ugly ass ufo tail light instead of the beautiful ass.

>>17279145
See if the taillights can be swapped, then?

>>17275523
Yeah I had them drill the J-mod on the rebuild, she shifts like a mule now.

>>17278658
>>17279085
I've had to deal with a friend's Z31 that was supposed to be destined for the junkyard for the last 6 months.

The motor itself has proven to be a champ though. Been seized up 4-5 times for various reasons but as far as getting it to crank over, basically all that we did was just put a tow strap on his crown vic and tug till it went free. When he got it we found half the plugs running off of lawn and garden plugs forced into the threads. Virtually everything that goes wrong has been just accessories which all blow out because it's all run off a 30 year old vac system. After whole system gets deleted the motor will just keep going.

It's the best shittiest motor I've ever seen.

The only thing that really is shit itself about the Z31 VG30 are the terrible V belts but the pulleys can be swapped from any serpentine VG30 from the 90s onward no problem.

>>17266267
Literally any Honda, Toyota, Barusu, and old Nissan (RB) engine. You may include old Mitsubishi, but they just need to die already.

Also, greatest engine ever is the 2JZ. If you think otherwise, off yourself

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>>17279262
Thanks for the info.

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>>17278658
>>17279085
>>17279262
As reliable as the VG30 is, the L series inline 6 is just as tough and much easier to service. You can R&R a set of injectors in half an hour or do a head gasket in an afternoon, and parts are stupid cheap for it too

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Jaguar AJ V8.

Can go a billion miles just on peanut butter oil and tangerine coolant!

>>17279278
as far as a stock driving experience it helps finding a clean one. but spare parts are a bitch to find. A lot of the little things we would need to bring it back to stock we would either have to buy the whole assembly for some tiny specific part on it or find out it has been out of stock on parts websites for the last 10 years.

everything else about the car has been an unreliable shit so if stuff hasn't broken knock on wood. The motor runs in the strictest sense of the word but it's suffered years and years of abuse from prior owners and it's fun in a slow-car-fast kinda way. If it gives you perspective we found a crack pipe hidden in one of the dash pieces.

Honestly if it was properly taken care of I don't see why the motor wouldn't run for another 100-200k miles. They didn't come with much power out the door in NA trim so the 3L of displacement isn't heavily taxed on even at WOT. It's the only experience I have with the VG30 but if I was given a brand new one I wouldn't think I couldn't get it to 4-500k if it was forced on me.

>>17279292
most of the stuff on the motor is pretty simple to get at but that engine has been torn down to the long block multiple times in a week so it could just be us getting good at doing it. if it was a z32 good fucking luck.

Still never worked with an inline 6 but as far as packaging goes it seems great for servicing with the space you get on the sides you don't have with Vs.

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>>17279292
Can I swap an L series IL6 in to a 300ZX?

>>17279304
Z31's were sold with RB20DET's from factory in Japan. Only issue I could see with it is front clearance with the fan clutch. Look into it I guess

>>17274410
>>17268095
at this point i'm convinced I should just put biodiesel in mine and claim that sweet tax refund

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>>17279320
Oh ya I completely forgot about the lower end model z31's that were only sold in japan. Ill definitely look into it thanks.

This thread inspired me to buy my local diesel Mercedes as a shtf vehicle, they're so cheap

>>17277360
best motor Ford ever made

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Electric engines are by far the most reliable.

inb4 it's an electric "engine"

>>17280709
>this is high tech according to liberal arts students

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What ever the fuck designation engine Isuzu put in the NPRs (Elf).

I've worked on hundreds even ones that had faulty water separators and were literally running on a 50/50 water-rust/diesel mix and still moving along.

>>17280726
>even taking the time to consider what liberal arts thinks of technology.

I'm considering getting a mid-80s or so Mercedes TD as my next car. Anything I should know from the posters ITT who have experience with them?

>>17280742
doesn't take time, it's evident when you look at the Tesla fan crowd

>>17280726
>>17280998
Dunno if you are the same person, but are you arguing that the Tesla motor (and electric motors in general) is not reliable?

>>17274366
that's a qc issue. not a design issue.

if the tolerances are tight and the engine is under stressed (not a sports car), highway driven, taken care of. 500k is a given.

>most reliable engine
>Not a single marine engine

>>17274105
Just pick up a Haynes manual for your car and do it yourself. You'll save a ton of money, and learn something new.

>>17281070
Nautical fag here. I am on the bridge, and I am absolutely dependent on the engines working, and I always feel confident they will. However, I feel that it's a bit unfair comparing marine engines to cars, as we have 4-5 guys downstairs making sure all the machinery is working and ready at all times.

The longest-working engine I ever saw was Wichmann from the 70s with 100k hours clocked. But I would assume that bearings, cylinder linings, pistons, valves, etc. have been replaced or overhauled several times.

Similarily, caterpillar engines can last a very long time. I guess this is not entirely uncalled for, but it also makes sense. The best ship I was on had four cat 3516b engines, relatively small diesels running at 1500 rpm and producing 1800kw of power.

The advantage is that you get a lot of power in a small package, cheap engines, and honestly, unrivaled world-wide service.

The disadvantages are many
>lots of vibration
>strict service routine (for staying within cat warranty)
>oil change is one liter per one running hour
>you need a second set of non-metric tools

>>17281213
To elaborate further on the caterpillars; by the time the crankshaft bearings have been replaced, the frame is the only original part from the installation. Also, the oil-leaking meme has proven true for every caterpillar, as well as every other marine engine I've seen, to varying degrees.

I hope one day I will experience working on a larger vessel with engines in the 100-300 rpm range, slow-moving two-stroke beauties with their elegant steady chugs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_L_engine

>>17281238
>mazda
>reliable

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>>17281251
Yes they are, provided they're not modified to shit and not owned by a boiracer faggot who mistreats it.

Just like anything else.

>>17281251

delet this

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VQ35DE, it starts having a little oil consumption around 250k but im almost at 300,000 and this thing is rock steady

>>17281213
>>17281233

I have never seen a particular engine model not leak.

We generally use Yanmars but I have come across Perkins, Volvo, john deere, Scania, Duetz, ABC, cummins, cat, etc. etc. and put my hand on all of them for maintenance to some degree.

The reason why commercial water fags maintain their engines to the degree they do is because when you are in the middle of the ocean. The third to last thing you want is no propulsion.

Though if you look through the fsm manuals for many vehicles you will have recommended engine teardown periods for measurement and depending on their condition, parts replacement.

The difference between landfags and nautfags is that they wait until the part fails and most of you don't.

>>17281504

I forgot to add the part where I haven't heard of a marine engine failing 100 hours after the boat/ship launch where as I have been following brand new vehicles emitting noise or smoke to the point where they are on the side of the road calling the dealerships