HAPPENING THREAD: GM ACCUSED OF EMISSION CHEATING

EVERYONE is cheating on emissions, it's just a matter of who gets caught and when.

If all these cars actually met the standards set by people who know fuck all about cars, nobody would buy them and they'd all just get used shit that actually runs and drives well.

>emissions was a mistake

There's no such thing as new carbon.

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>i have a shitty chebby wit a DI gas enigne
>its only a matter of time before i get monies

>>17265430
Wut

>>17265445
its gonna happen bro.

gm fangirls on suicide watch

lel GM fangirls will defend this

I think the question should be "who ISN'T cheating emissions"? If nearly every car maker has to cheat emissions, then there's something wrong with the emission standards.

>>17265904
>has to

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>>17265403
BTFO once again

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>>17265910

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>>17265901
>>17265891
watch them defend it
>hehe u dont like smelly engines i bet you are some lefty ecocucks! GM is good, climate warming is a lie!

>>17265908
>just don't sell diesel trucks when every competitor offers them
yeah that'd ruin a brand pretty fast.

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http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/25/gm-ford-dip-after-reported-suit-alleges-diesel-pickups-are-rigged-to-pass-emissions-tests.html
>Shares of GM fell as much as 2.7 percent on the news. The stock later recovered some of its losses, but still ended the day 1.8 percent lower.

Say it with me
BTFO
T
F
O

Lol at all these losers having meltdowns in this thread

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>>17265973
hey you dropped something, here.

lmao.

>>17265416
Fpbp

>>17265999
btfo.

>>17265403
Please catch Toyota, I would like a buyback offer.

Meltdowns aside what did anyone expect?
ICEs have to have emissions it's what they do. You can't legislate away physics.

>>17265945
>"ford" included in URL
>CTRL+F not found on page

what did he mean by this?

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>>17266069
interesting, I did not notice this either.

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>>17266067

>>17266088
>>17266067
>>17266011
>>17265979
>>17265945
>>17265921
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>>17265901
>>17265891
Right now I see
>26 replies
>16 posters
1 poster posted 10 times.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. My number of qoutes seems interesting

>>17266111
>only one person is triggering me!

>>17265904
They all are. Everybody tests turbo engines off-boost which is technically cheating. Just like all professional athletes use drugs but only a few get caught.

>>17266111
>people are forbidden from dumping memes
stay salty GM friendo

>>17266118
I know your thing is gm trolling, but I truly feel sorry for you.

>>17266139
Assuming this is a new person, now we have 17 posters
>>17266144
>>17266118
You're the same person and samefagging. I feel even more pity for you.

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>>17266111
really makes you think eh.

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>>17266111

>>17266156
imagine being this autistic lol
>>17266158
btfo

>>17266111
>1 poster posted 10 times.
do people call you dumb on a regular basis?

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>>17266156
im not you retard.
>>17266088
>>17265999
>>17265910
posted only these.

have a taste of my OC filthy GMfag

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also daily reminder prez/o/ WILL create one of those
>why havent you bought a corvette yet?
threads in next 24 hours to damage control

>baseless claims

I will wait until they actually find proof
>see if I can nab me a cheap diesel chebby after

>>17265403
Everyone, except for Tesla, is cheating.
It was just a matter of time untill another big manufacturer was caught, it is just fair that it hit a burger company this time.

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>>17266149
sperg more

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>>17267326
>Alphonse has joined the session

Shit's gonna get good.

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>>17267388
ive been here the whole time. i was just posting under anon.

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>>17267408

>>17265901
Wait...dont you drive a GM truck?

>>17267777
Nice quads.

>>17265403

>be liberals
>whine about "muh environment"
>buy a car that hurts the precious fuckin environment

>>17267900
>emissions meme
How many cars piss oil everywhere?

>get bailout money to save your ass
>release only disappointing piece of shit vehicles since then
GM should've died

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>>17270885

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/23/business/fiat-chrysler-diesel-emissions-lawsuit.html?_r=0


"""The federal government filed a lawsuit against Fiat Chrysler Automobiles on Tuesday, accusing it of using illegal engine-control software to enable its diesel-powered vehicles to pass emissions tests."""
who the fuck cares, everyone cheats

>>17265403
Dammit GM! I keep supporting you and you keep fucking up!

>>17270907
0.3 less seconds of lap time have been deposited in your Nurburgring record.

Thank you for correcting GM's record.

>>17270907
Except Ford.

>>17270941
>blows off EPA bullshit
>"fucking up"
Huh?

>>17270981
We don't know that yet.

In all probability they will also be sued since the other manufacturers couldn't find a way to make the power without cheating that means there's no way Ford could stay competitive without also cheating.

>>17270985
Government is gonna take a lot of money off of GM... That is the definition off fuckin up.

>>17271123
Government giveth*, government taketh.

Oh the irony lmao.

>*2008 government bailout

>>17267900
>be liberal
>say battery cars are good for the environment
>ignores battery production industry

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>>17271910
>implying that isn't factored in
electric pollutes less. deal with it.

>>17271926
I would like to see how they calculated it.
All that open pit mining they do in china for those rare earth elements cant be good for the environment.

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>>17271991
it's already factored in. stupid autist. sperg harder

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>tfw you live in Jew York and daily an 8 mpg small block chevy with no emissions equipment

>>17272010
Can you reference how they "factor in" these mysterious pollution variables and conclude that electric cars pollute less than internal combustion powered vehicles instead of throwing insults and posting smug anime girl pictures like some moronic bait throwing poster who is responsible for the slow deterioration of this website since they usually cannot back up their claims so they resort to an hominem attacks which shoo away any real discussion and only leaves bait posters in their wake?

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>>17272052
>can you please spoon feed me
No. The EPA factored it in. You're the same cuck who gets triggered every time. I'm not going to post the same image. stay mar

>>17272058
It would be nice if you did post it since it would not only inform me of how they "factor in" pollution created by electric cars.
It would also prove to other people looking at this thread that electric cars are better for the environment.

But I guess you've grown tired of proving your point so you've told me to "stay mar"

I, on the other hand, think the electric car industry isn't as cracked up as they make it out to be.
Its more of a "there polluting over there so don't worry about it" sort of solution and wont do anything to save the planet that you have apparently grown tired of fighting for.

>>17265416
fpbp

>>17266111
or 2 posters 5 times
or 5 posters 2 times
or 3 posters with 2 posting 4 times and 1 posting twice
etc.

>>17272084
sperg more
>>17272097
>t. gm's marketing team

>>17265999
NICE DIGITS

Nobody cares. A ton of truck buyers just delete their trucks anyway. With how Trump is handling the EPA, they hopefully won't have any power to do much of anything anymore.

>>17265403
Does /o/ really care about emissions?

T.catless straight piped supercharged v8 chevy owner

The shills don't seem to understand the diesel truck community.

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>>17271123
>>17271140
.thread

gm fangirls actually ragequit

>>17265403
>It said GM used at least three "defeat devices" to ensure that the trucks met federal and state emission standards, even if they generated more pollution in real-world driving.
That's because emissions tests are NOTHING LIKE REAL WORLD DRIVING

>>17272139
>Does /o/ really care about emissions?
No, not for us and our few shitboxes but I can see where millions of new cars need to have emissions controls or we'd have brown skies.

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>>17272084
>replying to the LOL U MAD!? troll

>>17272306
sperg more

@17272312
You won't be getting my (you), sorry.

>>17272313
sperg more.

>>17272312
>>17272222
>>17272112
>>17272010
>>17272058
>>17271926
>>17272320

>>17270885
One doesn't simply delete their posts, Cerberus. How's the samefagging life treating you?
Pic related.

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>>17272323
Almost forgot the picture, sweety.

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>>17272323
i have no idea what you're talking about
>>17272325
drake poster isn't me tho. you're delusional.

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>>17272325
CERBERUS B T F O

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>>17272331
cool samefag, cuck

>lol
https://youtu.be/Lnwi14c4-dY?t=223

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>>17272342
Only samefag here is you
>inb4 FOTOSHOPPED!

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>baited into a screencap

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>>17272330
you are correct, I am the drakeposter.

>>17265416
This is the most correct post in the history of /o/. I can practically guarantee that every car company does one or more of the following:
- Emissions/fuel economy cheating
- Tax avoidance/mitigation
- Cutting corners on production
- Bare minimum adherence to safety standards, pretty much only luxury european cars even try to make their cars safer than is demanded by whatever organisation is in charge of maintaining safety standards amongst auto manufacturers.

>>17271991
they didn't calculate or consider shit, this faggot is lying out his ass.

they believe that all these electric cars will be charged using solar stations and windpower, lol.

>ITT California gets upset that something isn't "right" and sues everyone

What a fucking shocker. A bunch of idiots are suing FCA for the ecodiesel too.

>this is why we can't have nice things

>>17272058

You sound like a SJW

>I HAVE A CLAIM
>Oh? Prove it
>FUCK YOU I DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT TO YOU DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH (please don't though because I'm wrong and know it)

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>>17266111
>GM fangirls are this retarded

>>17265416
This is why I think the ecoboost is so amazing. They've found a way to make a compliant and consequentially emaciated engine powerful by hiding all
The power in the twin turbos which isn't accessed until the car is full throttle

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>>17273440
better than being some stupid alt right cuck.

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My chebby passed emissions and broke no laws unlike shitwagon

>>17265403
>445 hp
>910 ft-lbs
>500+ hp and 1000+ ft-lbs with a tune

>caring if you meet absurd emissions standards in a diesel pickup

Fuck these standards. Trump's going to cut back on them anyway.

>>17271926
Literally no one factors that in. Modern "green" cars are NOT pushing to reduce overall global pollution levels. They're pushing to reduce tailpipe emissions so they can brag about reduced emissions and sell cars. You want green? Keep an old car going. If it's running decent and has cats, then driving your shitbox for another 10 years is technically "greener" than crushing it, melting it down, shipping raw materials to China for processing, building the components in China, shipping them back to Mexico for assembly, and then shipping them back to a US port for them to transported to a dealership.

Crushing old cars and building new ones is how you brag about being green while you destroy the environment. Longer lifecycles mean less mining, less shipping, less industrial material processing, less fuel burnt for testing, and less retooling. This shit pollutes far worse than the cars built in the process do.

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>>17274126
>no one factors that in
[citation needed]

>>17274126
But it's about feeling good and making money not actually doing anything.

'

>>17274144
You can't have power and be green when it comes to an internal combustion engine. It's a give and take no matter how you slice it. The trick is to "hide" the power in certain ways where the car remains compliant with whatever emissions test they are required to pass. You can accomplish this fairly easily with turbos since the emissions testing simply tests for "typical driving cycles" in both city and highway and no one is going to tap into the turbos just from average driving.

>>17265403
>2017

>still caring about emissions

fuck this gay earth and fuck california

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>>17275668
GM fan girls literally can't contain their asshurt
>F-FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
>F-F-FUCK COMMIEFORNIA

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ITT

>>17275668
see >>17265921

>>17275668
Assmad GM fangurl

STAY BTFO

>>17265403
It's almost like the laws are too strict or something.

>read through thread
>samefag is still samefagging
top zozzle

>>17277129
>2 posts per IP
>le samefag xddddd

>>17265416
Yeah this is largely why dct transmissions and turbochargers are popular

They just gear the car and program the gearbox so that it stays out of boost during the drive cycle and it looks like it gets good fuel economy, but if you drive it at the engine speed where its in boost you will get much worse fuel economy