Classic Car General - /CCG/

rust is expensive? no i think the engine was.

in my 69 mustang the body looked fine except the hood was bent because of the hinge spring.
however the 302 cracked above the cam all the way to the back of the block. that turned expensive fast.

>>17242969
>Rust expensive? Rust wasn't expensive on my rust-free car!

>>17242975
it nearly bankrupted me.
i think it was nearly 4 grand of crap after all was done.

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Nearly done with my A833 swap.

Took way longer than expected but im closing in now.
Got my Clutch master in Yesterday
Only need to measure Out the bellhousing position.
The rest is just Plug and Play

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>>17242954
post more please op,

>>17242997
How much did it set you back?
Also any tips for me?

>>17242987
>4 grand
There are running 302s on CL for $500 every day.

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Sup guys

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>>17243009
Sure; what do you want to see?

>>17243087
Wait, you're the Imperial guy, I need more pics of both cars. What's the plan for the RR? how's it's interior look? I love big luxo cars.

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>>17243038
If you Check Forums ( especially US Forums) its not that expensive.
"Just Go to your local scrapyard"
I live in Germany so every Part that was Missing ( quite a few in retrospect) I had to ship in.
All around I think I payed 2500€ to 3000€ for everything.
Fresh rebuilt a833 Lakewood bellhousing Hurst shifter and everything + hydramax hydraulic clutch assembly.

Tipps

I dont know. Dont expect to be done in a weekend :)

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I got my $300 280ZX running a few months back. Only took a new battery, fuel pump, injectors and an oils pressure switch. I also swapped out a lot of old fuel and coolant lines as well as remade a few hard lines that are no longer sold. I also replaced the radiator cap and thermostat, and ran a few coolant treatments to get rid of the rusty crap inside. Water pump and fan clutch seem ok

Right now I'm in the process of overhauling the braking system. I replaced the master cylinder already and I'm getting the pads, rotors and brake hoses. Hopefully the calipers are ok but they're cheap to replace if not.

After all that, I'm gonna take it in to get a new clutch and flywheel, and do the rear main seal while I'm. Ack there. Beyond that, some new tires and it should be road ready

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>rust is the most expensive about a project

well i'd say bodywork. like paint, straightening it, metal obv, ect..

then maybe the engine if you just have a simple one.

i've got a ford prefect 100e from '54 and i think in total bodywork costs it will be about 5k €

while the engine is maybe just 2k €

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>>17243100
I own many cars:

1966 Imperial
1967 Rolls Royce
1978 Excalibur
1979 Lincoln
1981 DeLorean
1984 Fiero

The Rolls Royce will be, eventually, restored and set up as a daily driver or cross-county tourer; some modern upgrades paired with a few swapped parts so that it makes financial sense to drive it.

Otherwise, I was going to make it into a Mad Max inspired post-apocalypric raider car.

>>17243118
I was going to grab a used gearbox and flywheel and then maybe get one of dem kits.

I don't want to spend 4 grand if i can do it cheaper with available parts but there are some parts that i might not know about.
Anyway good on you.

>>17243134
>right hand drive
interesting

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>>17243177
I like it. I've been redoing it bit by bit; as such, I have very little invested.

Before:

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>>17243258
After:

>>17242218 #
That's where the gas tank is

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>>17243266
With the interior looking that decent I think it'd be nice to see it put back to shiny. Any pics/info on the 79 lincoln? Lincoln shill here

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>>17243318
It's too nice to make into a rat rod, so it will shine once more.

The Lincoln is a 1979 Mark V Bill Blass designer edition; pictures incoming:

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>>17243518

>>17243076
but i was just out of high school and for some reasons thought i could make it better so it wouldn't break again. hence aftermarket block and everything

>>17243530
>Aftermarket block
Pls be aluminum

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>>17243525

>>17243544
nope just a 8.7" deck block

>>17243557
Lame. Why not just start with a 351 at that point?

>>17243572
pot calling the kettle black.

>>17243579
I know I'm lame though.

And I'm starting with the easiest and cheapest way to make like 300hp

>>17243572
did i mention i was just out of high school?
it was ok but in retrospect making a long rod 302 was dumb

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>dad comes back from trip, wants to work on Celica with me
>Rain has ruined the weekend to work on it.

>>17243579
He's not spending $4000 like the other guy though

>>17242954
I never understood the appeal of this era of Rolls Royces. They're ugly as shit and seem really basic.

What am I missing here?

>>17243589
not yet.

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>>17243598
Grey Poupon

>tfw cruising along on the highway
>Cruise shuts off all of a sudden
>Try to turn it back on and a puff of smoke comes out from the ON button.

Well fuck me. I like having cruise

>>17243608
If I manage to somehow spend 4k building a 302 out of an explorer with new springs, carb conversion and a cam and rockers, then you have free reign to go there bb ;^)

>>17243612
lol i had the wires short out in my '83 vw a month ago.

>>17243632
why not use a 351 block

>>17243632
You're going to be down more than that from the countless swaps you yourself have claimed you're going to do instead of getting what you want in the first place but no don't listen to /ccg/ just like last time when it took you over two weeks to get your truck running after we told you time and again what the fucking problem was.

>>17243644
Because factory 351 heads aren't that good and factory GT40p heads are decent enough.

And aftermarket heads are expensive.

>>17243648
See even you yourself understand how ridiculous it could be with my masterful knowledge to spend 4k on a basic bolt on swap into my ford.

>>17243660
you can use the gt40 heads on the 351W block

>>17243660
>See even you yourself understand how ridiculous it could be with my masterful knowledge to spend 4k on a basic bolt on swap into my ford.
it was even more ridiculous that you were going to pull and engine and not even take it apart to make sure it never overheated.
face it, you're a rookie.
The only reason i'm telling you this is because i care about you babe and i don't want you to blow money on a 5.slow when you could just as easily get a better engine for cheaper.

>>17243668
I'd have to machine the bolt holes and whatnot (not that big of a deal), and then id have to get the two items separately which is more of a pain then what I want to deal with.

I'd rather buy one engine, modify it and then put it in the truck. Down the road, like a few years from now, I'll probably go the 351 based route but for now, like I said, this is the cheapest way to 300hp.

>>17243685
Y'all were absolutely correct about that. I'm also assuming after researching that it's a lot easier to replace valve springs on a head that is off the block than one that is still attached

>>17243635
On the bright side, there's switches on Ebay for Thunderbirds and Mustangs and such that are all the same ones

>>17243613
Those are older...less ugly.

>>17243660
Aren't you supposed to be trying to act less faggoty?

>>17243990
Git gud

>>17243598
They have a supremely comfortable ride, but, ultimately, it's a lot like buying a Cadillac over a Buick. A lot of it is that they're status symbols and appeal to the supremely wealthy. My reasons are simpler:
>It was cheap
>I like the look
>If nothing else, the grille and hubcaps make cool wall hangings
>I wanted a challenging project
>If I didn't , it was going to be scrapped

>>17243085
That's pretty fuckin cool.

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>>17243660
>engine swap
>simple bolt on

>>17244009
I'm not saying I don't understand the appeal of a dirt cheap one, I just can't wrap my mind around people paying $200k for them in the 80's.

>>17244093
I would probably have thrown a comma on there for those who can't context ;)

>>17244113
m8 commas wouldn't effect what you said at all. If anything it would make less sense

>>17244137
Well then I feel bad for you that you can't be helped

>>17244103
That, I do not know. I don't even like the look of those ones.

>>17244211
I think the new rolls after the BMW acquisition have been stellar looking. Behemoths of vehicles

>>17244143
>druggie who was lucky to graduate highschool educating other people on anything other than how to blow his dealer

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So it turns out it was something in the Carb causing the stumbling, i was too much of a wuss to do it myself, and had a friend with more experience look at it. The whole car is smooth now. Feels good.

Put some new shocks myself a few weeks ago and i'm very happy that it no longer rattles my fillings out every time i hit a bump.

Hows it goin' /ccg/?

>>17244437
>analpained numale doesn't know how to read

>>17244474
I finally drove around with the flaps in my footwell of the ford open, turns out that they are vents and it was a very pleasant experience.

>>17244498
Ha, yeah, the """air conditioning"""

It works surprisingly well desu, in the one in the picture theres also another gust of air coming from an unknown place, even when the flaps are closed.

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>>17244498
whoops dropped trip ;)

How to not get ripped off when I'm looking to get into classic cars but never grew up around them? I might be going from < $30K a year to 200K, and aside from crypto currency, index funds, savings, and maybe real estate I have had no clue what I would even spend it all on.

The idea of classic cars is coming from "buying" my grandfather's 55 Bel Air. It's his dream car but he wants to sell it. Assuming I get the job (big assumption, but that money is making me daydream), I would just pay him what he's asking for it and he would just keep it in his possession to cruise around until he passes. I figure that's the least I could do

This got me looking at other cars, and I like the idea of driving something classic that I've bought, but knowing nothing about the labor or available parts how the fuck would I make sure I'm not getting screwed? Especially with this stuff becoming more niche and the information seems like it'll just become harder to come by. For example, say I wanted a 69 GTO with a blower and (hidden) modern sound system; who the hell do I talk to to get that done that wouldn't just try and get the most money out of me?

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Finally got a decent deal on an original fan shroud so I'm hoping that'll finally fix my overheat at idle issue. Also I was curious if maybe the timing could be causing the issue too. I heard that if you switch the vacuum advance from a carb port to a manifold port that always has vacuum it might help it run a bit cooler. Would that help?

>>17244768
I've never seen much difference either way but I always made sure the cooling system on my cars worked. I also preferred to run ported vacuum so that when you cracked the throttle you also got 10+ degrees of timing for a nice little tip-in punch with an automatic. Still, it's something for you to try. It won't change the base or the total timing of course but you will have to lower the idle speed since it'll idle a bit faster with the increased timing at idle.

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>>17244796
Also my radiator is a bit small so maybe if none of that helps i'll go over kill on the radiator.

>>17244826
That is indeed a teeny weeny radiator

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>>17244833
It'll actually keep it pretty darn close to 180 degrees at all times on the highway but as soon as you get to a red light or traffic it starts to go up quick.

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if you get the throttle cable, fuel line, and the five wires disconnected, it really is only four bolts.

>>17245590
Also the heater box control cables and heater pipes, almost forgot those.

>>17244833
Aluminum, though, which helps a lot.

>>17244826
Dude you need to space that fan out so it's under the shroud.

Oh, and when's the last time you replaced the water pump? If that thing ever had plain water in it the impeller blades might be rusted down to nubs and won't pump water at idle.

>>17244842
Overheating at low speeds or stops is lack of airflow. The biggest radiator in the world won't stop an overheat if there's no airflow to carry the heat away.

>>17244842
put an electric fan on there and ditch the fixed blade and youll pick up ~20hp and get proper cooling,

>>17246558
>lack of airflow
That "shroud" is blocking the fan from much of the radiator.

>>17247003
The shroud also forces air to be sucked though the radiator instead of just being pushed around the engine bay

>>17243118
Mmmmm. 340 Duster? Or is that a demon?

Is an Edelbrock carb ALWAYS an upgrade to a stock system?

>>17246089
Once I get that stock fan shroud installed I'll look at that waterpump since I haven't touched it since I bought it.
>>17246973 It's tempting, how much stress do the electric fans put on the electrical system?
>>17247003 The original owner put that shroud on and I figured it was probably doing more harm than good.

>>17244842
literally water pump.

>>17247501
Alrighty, I'll probably next day one from summit. Are those "FlowKooler" ones any good?

>>17244540
I feel like I've seen this too many times in this general, somebody having to BUY their grandparents car (dead yet or not). Sorry to be such a dick but what kind of shitty families do you guys have?

>>17247267
Not unless you had a Carter AFB or AVS stock.

>>17247569
Yes. Yes they are. What they do is jam as much impeller as will fit in the housing, either adding a few vanes over stock, or using long spiral vanes instead of straight.

>>17247267
depends on what you are looking for. do you want performance? buy Holley. do you want reliability and not have to tinker with your carb constantly? buy Edelbrock.

>>17247913
Because believe it or not when someone pays 10s of thousands of dollars for something they don't just give it away. Even to family. Retired people live on fixed incomes. Money doesn't come often to them

>>17247267
Nope, Thermoquad has way more tunability.

>>17247482
i think they average about 70-100w but thats also only an intermittent load

engine masters did an episode on the fans and it was pretty surprising how much power is sucked up with those fans

>>17250215
I saw that, Like 30 hp from a non clutch fan. pretty crazy. If I can find a kit somewhere that's got everything I need I might install one in the future.

>>17248325
update, My header gaskets came in the mail today and it helped reduce the ticking that was already there but they still don't seal the best. It did lower the volume of the ticking noise on the passenger side but it's still kinda there. I used a piece of fuel line as a sort of stethoscope to pinpoint the sound but it was no where near the headers. It sounded kinda like it was coming from around the distributor, possibly an echo from the loose exhaust pipe that goes into the header collector and also another ticking noise is for sure coming from the front around the waterpump so that may verify there is something wrong with it.

>>17250403
Are you sure it's not just noisy lifters?
Have you looked at the rotor under the cap to see if something is bent?

>>17250512
I pulled the valve covers off and the rockers and push rods were not loose but I'll take the cap off and see if there is anything bent under the distributor. The ticking is pretty darn quiet though but it's pretty tough to pinpoint. Also If it is a lifter what are my options?

>>17250619
try using thicker oil or some Lucas Oil on the next oil change, or do nothing. Noisy lifters aren't a problem unless you have a collapsed lifter and then the tick is really noticeable

>>17250619
How's your oil level? And what weight oil are you using?

>>17250655
I'll try that when I change the oil soon because it's about time. It's also been doing it for awhile since I figured it was an exhaust leak and put off getting new gaskets.
>>17250697 I'm using 10w30 and it's full, it even runs 40 psi at cold idle and gets to around 60 (close to the inbetween notch from 40 to 80 on the gauge) on the highway.

>>17250726
What engine is this? You could try some marvel mystery oil in there. It helps a bit

>>17242954
There's a dude in my town who's selling this exact "car" well he's been trying to sell it for a while he's asking like 2grand
But the difference is its got like a 15 inch lift and on like 40 inch tires

>>17250733
it's an olds 403. I'm hoping she'll last long enough until I find a Pontiac 400 to swap in. I daily drove it since last august but only to work mostly so no real long trips.

>>17250754
It couldn't hurt to throw in a thicker oil. I had to do that for the 300 to stop a mold tick

>>17250765
I'll give it a try, a few weeks ago I overheated the hell out of it on accident from traffic and I thought it was a collapsed lifter but I added more oil (was a bit low) and it made no difference. The header gaskets made it quieter at least or maybe the exhaust leak was just masking the sound.

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Basically got this truck for free. 1971 C10, 350 V8, powerglide, long tube headers and side exhaust.

Needs some wiring work, cleaning up, but mostly just some love that it hasn't seen in years.

Incoming image dump.

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>>17250823
Where do you fags get such nice cars for so little. I'm trying to find a nice project truck but no luck here in southern ontario.

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>>17250840
just gotta get lucky. Got this for $750 and a tow bill

>>17250874
jesus how

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>>17251068
it needed a starter and a mainline for the rear brakes. Had some rust spots other people didn't like that I didn't care about

>>17250809
nice filter wrap

>>17251082
Yeah was on there when received, no reason to remove it.

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I have nothing new to report. Here's some shit from the cruise-in.

>>17250726
Hydraulic lifters, yes?

Dump some extra detergents in the oil when you do the change. They're usually by the stop leak.
CD2 has worked for me in the past but you might have better results with something else.

If that don't do it, then it's time to pull the lifters, disassemble them and clean 'em out.

>>17251344
why would you clean out lifters if you're going through the effort of taking them out in the first place? Literally no point, might as well get new lifters instead

>>17243126
Beautiful anon

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>>17251360
Why replace when you can reuse?

So question for you guys; what exactly makes a car a classic?
My old man said the 93 Explorer 2 door I found is a classic, but is that just him using a figure of speech or is there an actual definition?

>>17251387
Because a set of lifters for his engine is $55 online before shipping. It's not nearly worth the time and effort to clean 16 of them. I guarantee 99% of everyone else here would agree
They're lifters. They are not special.

>>17251404
>$55
Oh. Yeah that sure as fuck ain't worth rebuilding lol
I didn't realize they were that cheap.

>>17251399
It is really in the eye of the beholder. usually it is older, outdated, but appeals to a specific group. a base model 2wd 86 ford ranger with a 4 cylinder isn't a classic, but a mint 86 4x4 V6 ranger with a 5 speed is.

>>17251399
A car/truck my parents would have bought new when they were my age.

>>17243126
How easy is it to work on one? I want to get a 280 as a first manual and first car to really work on by myself instead of paying someone else, would you reccomend?

>>17251399
The way I see it:
>older than 1990
>somewhat uncommon

An '89 300ZX? Sure.
An '89 Camry? There's a dozen of them in my shitty little town.

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>>17251419
>>17251440
>>17251441
Thanks guys, more dumb questions inbound
Mine is a 1993 Explorer 2 door 5 speed manual with a 6 cylinder eddie bauer with 4wd
I remember seeing alot of these when we would go wheeling when I was a kid, But my pops seemed to cream his pants when he saw it. Are they rare in that community now? Can I brag on /o/ for (you)s?
Pic related is it when I took it out trailing a bit to see how it works

>>17251551
Me personally would love to see you bragging about your car since Im european and I have a lot of interest even in more "ordinary" USA cars, now even more so when Im buying a cheaper american car over here. Anyway nice car man

> Car uses a rat trap clutch linkage
> Don't want to spend money on a new bellhousing and fucking around with removing the old one
> Hydraulic linkage is retardedly expensive
Seems like the only option I have is to ghetto rig a system that will turn a push into a pull or make my own hydraulic linkage

>>17251842
hydraulic linkage wouldn't be any more annoying to do.
Plenty of junk cars around with their entire systems intact.

>>17251861
You're right. I didn't consider salvaging one

>>17251862
still gonna have to make your own mounts and stuff but thats no big deal.
hardest part is probably figuring out how you want to actuate the master cylinder.

>>17251344
If the detergents don't clean it i can just take off the rocker and pushrod then use a magnet to pull the bad one out and avoid taking the whole head off the engine?

>>17252520
>take the head off to remove lifters on a v8
u wot m8?

>>17252544
So I'll take that as a no then, Never have worked on a v8 before. Sorry for my ignorance.

>>17252550
Removing the lifters on an OHV engine normally just requires removing the intake manifold and taking the valve covers off to loosen off the rocker arms to pull the pushrods.
Takes about an hour or so

>>17252566
Thanks dude, Hopefully the oil detergents will fix it but if they don't I'll have a fun project to do.

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Current daily, probably will be that way for some time. Found it in the desert just east of Tahoe, owner had passed away and I bought it from his son who knew nothing about it. 170k on the clock. Everything is pretty well sorted. It's a 4spd car. Valves were in adjustment, so I'm assuming someone cared for it. I went through and replaced fuel lines, checked timing, purged it, changed filters and oil. Has a block heater on it. Had a trunk full of spares- even had good snow tires on it. I've put 4k miles on it so far. It had a couple bad glow plugs and burnt the fuse for that circuit. Had enough compression to start cold anyway. $40 cl Thule rack for carrying lumber (I do woodworking on weekends) and some $20 rally armor flaps because I'm a colossal fag. (Don't worry, I used existing holes and clips, no destruction required to mount them).

I'm pretty sure I could run 70 mph nonstop across the entire US and it wouldn't give two fucks.

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>>17252637
It had some aftermarket JVShit head unit in it. I found an old becker from a W124 in a junkyard. Got it $15. Took it home and cleaned it up and put it in. Thing sounds better than most much newer cars I've owned, and being essentially an OEM upgrade, looks great. Added a bluetooth cassette tape to the mix and I am perfectly happy with it.

>>17251641
Will do, I'll keep the shitposting to max.
And thanks eurobro, you guys have nice mountains out there from what I hear

Is it possible to do a restomod of a classic car body/frame where you strip out the engine and transmission and put in something modern, either a modern W12 or an all-electric motor?

>>17253585
possible sure, you can pretty much build what you want. I don't know if it would be a restomod with a transplanted drivetrain though, maybe if it was all the same manufacturer.
>W12
VW? Are you putting a W12 into a ghia? You should.

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>>17252637
Nice 240d anon. I had a 82 stick 240d and kinda regret selling it. It had a rotted front+rear suspension, needed a heater core & the a/c fixed and I just wasn't up for it and drove it as a beater for a while.

My commute was 45 miles on a highway with everyone going 75-80, plus pulling out on a busy 45mph street all the time. Not really fun in a 240d.

Now I'm into gassers after owning a 95 e420 and am fixing up a 83 380sel.

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>>17253609
Thanks anon. Mines an '81. Yeah rot seems to be the only thing that kills them other than complete and utter neglect. I have no issue with 70-75 with this one. I don't pull out in front of people, but it's super happy cruising. Even gets solid mpgs. I'd love to pick up another that's tired and put a 606 turbo in it, I'd probably go full blasphemy and use a 9" Ford rear end and find a TKO or Magnum Tremec transmission. Make it look completely stock on the outside except for the molten rubber stuck here and there.

I'd love to find a nice like 80-85 SL. Or go full wet dream and take out a second mortgage to buy a 190 evo.

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The first full size Riviera I've ever seen

>>17254116
You're retarded.

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>>17253794

I've got an '84 380SL that I'm cleaning up to sell right now. I've been completely through it in the 5 years I've owned it, and it's a phenomenal driver.

Currently going over the whole car with a clay bar and wax in my spare time while it's parked in the garage.

Interested?

>>17254244
Thanks for the offer anon, it's a beautiful looking car. I don't have the room right now though. Between the wife and I we have 4 cars, and only enough garage for 2. We're moving in a few months, and I have a (pos) chevy sonic I'm trying to sell, and a VW to restore. Afterwards maybe I'll be in the market. I appreciate it though.

>>17254279

>Between the wife and I we have 4 cars, and only enough garage for 2.

I hear you there. I'm actually selling it to free up garage space myself. My wife recently got into motorcycles which got me going on bikes again. Went from having 1 in the garage tucked behind the SL, to 4 between us occupying a full half of the garage. There's probably 1-2 more on the horizon this year, too. 3 cars is just too many with 4-6 bikes as well.

It's been a fantastic car, and I really do like it. Used it as a daily driver for almost two years, for road trips after that. Now it only gets love on the weekends, and only when I'm not out riding instead at that.

I'm cleaning it pretty autistically now, inside and out as a sacrificial rite. I'll take it on one last cruise before putting it up on ebay / craigslist.

>>17254328
Arizona right? I'm in California. I'll keep an eye out on craigslist for it and spread the ad around some. I have a few friends who like this sort of thing.

>>17254343

Yeah, Phoenix. I appreciate that, anon.

>>17254357
No worries. Good luck with it.

>>17254116
m8 it's a Toronado
You can clearly see the Olds badge on the quarter. This is dumb even for you

>>17254498
I'm retarded. I had a brain fart for some reason

>>17254611

You are a brain fart, kk.

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I have a thing for micro cars, just got this baby 2 weeks ago, what doe you think?

>>17254611
Kill yourself you colossal faggot

>>17254663
That's a BMW Isetta right?

>>17254620
Tru t b h famalam

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>>17254675
Done ;)

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Transaxle repaired, mounted up, and filled with fresh gear oil.

>1.7 MB for this garbage quality pic

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>>17252575
Another update, I may have found my source of the sound but I'm still not 100% sure. This pipe is loose going into the header flange and I think it's making the ticking noise and echoing up the firewall. I practically climbed in the engine bay to locate the ticking since it's coming from the distributor area. I might try sealing this up and see if that helps, is there some sort of gasket that fits on there? Also both sides are like this.

>>17247482
Contrary to popular opinion, fans pull air from the radiator, not push it toward it. The shroud directs the fan to pull air only from the radiator instead of everywhere.

>>17255354
>is there some sort of gasket that fits on there?
Yes, welding slag.

Plan a trip to the exhaust shop my man.

>>17255370
>The shroud directs the fan to pull air only from the radiator instead of everywhere.
equally important it stops the fan from throwing hot air right at your intake.

>>17255371
Will do, I really hope this solves my ticking and isn't a lifter since it got a bit quieter with the header gaskets and the ticking is almost in time with the exhaust.
>>17255370
I ordered a gm replacement fan shroud and it should be here soon so fingers crossed that it'll help. Also The waterpump is going to be replaced too as soon as it gets here.

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I'll just go back to my old trip since I seem to be in these threads quite often now. I'm the Texas fag with the mad max 78 Bronco.

I just recovered the dash pad the other day by myself. Stripped the old covering, bondo'd, sanded, re-foamed, and then recovered for a thicker plushier dash with a nice vinyl (leather sythesis) wrap. There are some flaws that the professionals would have gotten out, but I think it looks good for amateur work. I even did a decent ripple tuck at the ends.

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>>17255461
Fuck, had to repost and lost my trip. This is me.

>>17255473
'78 or '79?

>>17256448
78 as he said in his previous post.
70s Bronco is best Bronco

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>>17256492
yes. although 60's ferd truck is best ferd truck

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>>17251551
Looks like we're two of a kind then. '94 4-door 5-speed 4wd

>page 7

lifting OEM heads is a good workout when you're too cheap to buy weights.

>>17257121
O shid
You take yours off road at all?
Also I'm new to having a vehicle that can tow things, are these things any good for towing a small trailer with a rowboat to the lake / maybe a sedan once or twice that my friend broke down?

@kitkat - I want you to know that I used to look forward to your posts & pictures of that cool old truck. Now, you've been acting retarded and I can't tolerate your posts anymore. Please re-evaluate your posting in /ccg/.

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Here's what the dash looked like before.

>>17259227
did you buy a new one, refurb the old one, or get one from a junkyard?

>>17259015
I've taken it everywhere. Been in the dunes, on the beach, in the woods, even got water in the cab. Its been a great all-arounder, even though shit started breaking every other week since this January. Bought a newer car to daily, but I cant bring myself to ever sell the Explorer.

I havent towed anything long distance, but everything I've but on the ball thats on the bumper has been fine (mostly boats) but mind the tongue cap thats engraved in the bumper. I think its limit isnt all that big.

The only thing you'll feel bad about is towing something heavy from a stop up a hill. The clutch will smell, that 4.0 isnt all that powerful, so mind the weight.

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Shiny glossy black POR 15.

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New Project, 76 Camaro with a pontiac 6.6 slammed into it some time in the 80s.

Just bought this in South Carolina, essentially sight unseen. Last inspected in 1996, hadn't run in years and was sitting under a tree on cinder blocks.

Put a battery in it, one heater hose, top up some fluids and poured some gas down the carb. She fired up and smoked like a pig for a few minutes, then made a 5 hour drive north, up the cumberland gap, through the fucking mountains, and into Virginia without one hiccup. Tough old bitch.

>>17261619
how did you get it to run on that old gas?

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>>17261619
Before I washed the tree jizz and ants off of it..

>>17261637
damn it has AC too
lucky

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>>17261635
Owner was smart, drained the tank out and ran the carb dry before it let it sit. Put 5 gallons of good gas in the tank, still pumped some nasty orange out the lines through the filter. It didn't run very well, but it ran well enough to move.

Shitty inside, seats were already reupholstered some time while.

>>17261650
Nice find, how's all the exterior rubber?

>>17261670
Needs the weatherstripping and scraper seals around both windows replaced. Drivers side is wide open at the top corner of the glass but water only gets in if you're driving.

>>17261650
i like it but i would have to paint the dash black

>>17261696
You might want to look under the carpets for floor rust if you haven't already, wet carpet on metal is a recipe for nastiness.

>>17261724
Can't see any holes in it underneath, its pretty solid. The carpets were dry, seems like it only started leaking after I opened the doors and disturbed it so hopefully its not to bad under them.

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>>17259267
I refurbed the old one. Stripped the old covering, bondo'd and sanded the surface flat, went over it with a thicker plushier layer of new foam, then covered it .

Here it is in the truck now.

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>>17261619
Nice M8, how much you buy it for?

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Anybody else mess with fiberglass work? I did a few minor patches on my top to make it waterproof. I couldn't get it perfect, and you can pick out the patches if you look closely.

How do you get fiberglass and/or bondo work to look perfect?

>>17262324
Sanding, whatever it takes to get it prefectly smooth when painted up.

>>17262324
>How do you get fiberglass and/or bondo work to look perfect?

Having the patience to fuck around with body work, that's how

>>17262324
I've build a small fiberglass boat, the key is sanding, you just have to keep applying thin skim coats of filler and sanding it down with the longest sanding block you have. The most important thing is to have the block be longer than the repair area so that you can't make a depression on the repair area.

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My first ever NOS part purchase. I've looked for a year for a new wiper switch a mine is pretty shit and sometimes sticks on. Finally found one in Indianapolis.

>>17259144
Noted

>>17262324
Ste 1: don't let it get into your skin

>Bump

>>17261696
My Trans am did the same, The windows might need adjustment. Under the door panel there are a few bolts that if you loosen it'll let you side the window glass around.

So, not a classic but this is the only thread I bother to post in. I just finished doing the head gaskets on an 03 Impala I essentially got for free. Just fired her up for the first time, everything sounds good, still some smoke coming out the tailpipe, thinking just excess shit burning off. However I'm pulling a "random multiple cylinder misfire" code. Anybody know anything about that? Battery is completely shot also, so no more running it today.

>>17266679
what color smoke is coming out the pipe? depending on color it can be burning fluid

not calling you incompetent with the head gasket job, but it's possible you didn't install them correctly and/or they're bad

>>17262324

lots and lots of sanding, bog and more sanding, primer filler is worth using too

>>17266707
White. Theoretically that's excess shit burning off. I should also mention that it sure as hell doesn't sound like it's misfiring at all. Sounded like it was running perfectly, ran like dogshit before I did it.

>>17266795
Also no coolant spurting out of the open radiator when I was bleeding it, so that leads to believe the head gaskets are good.

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>>17266795
disregard light and put electrical tape over it. easy fix

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Praying every night that everything from the torque converter back doesn't explode from the bewst when she's finally back on the road

>>17266873
How much left do you have to do on your swap?

>>17266802
There won't always be coolant spurting out. Give the rad juice a sniff; if it smells like gas, the HG is bad.

79 Trans am dude again, I'm genuinely worried because I found some milky substance under the oil fill tube cap and the oil on the dipstick had a little bit of white in it if you held it to the light. Could it just be condensation because It doesn't smell like antifreeze plus I'm seeing no coolant loss ? it's been super hot and humid plus my garage stays really cold so that may produce some condensation. The other possibility is that it rained really hard while the car was outside. Could an intake leak let water into the oil?

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2nd coat, wondering if I should spray the floorpan white over the POR 15 for easy spotting future wear, rust, and dirt. It needs something to protect against UV.

Also the transaxle isn't leaking from the new gasket and nosecone, which is good.

>>17267367
Lower intake manifold, yes. Failure gives a lot of the same symptoms as a head gasket failure

>>17250874
I HATE YOU

>>17267565
I sold it if that makes you feel better

>>17267440
alrighty, I've already got a lifter ticking and some extra money to throw around so I might as well just rebuild it. Is there any reading material on Oldsmobile engines that'll help with that? Also any advice for a "budget" rebuild?

>>17267367
The oil cap will get like that from condensation. The dip stick might be something to worry about.

>>17266679
Could be something as simple as bad plugs. I've seen bad plugs cause it to run just barely bad enough to throw a code. Check coil (or plug) boots too, make sure they're not ripped. But as the others said, could be bad gaskets or bad head/block still causing a small leak.

For both of you, check this out: https://www.ebay.com/p/?iid=112219321782&&&dispItem=1&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-117182-37290-0%252F2%253Fmpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252Flike%25252F112219321782%25253Fchn%25253Dps%252526dispItem%25253D1%2526itemid%253D112219321782%2526targetid%253D340521013887%2526device%253Dm%2526adtype%253Dpla%2526googleloc%253D9027272%2526poi%253D%2526campaignid%253D764892186%2526adgroupid%253D39783961149%2526rlsatarget%253Daud-310176692042%253Apla-340521013887%2526abcId%253D978836%2526merchantid%253D6296724%2526gclid%253DCLK30vjMjNQCFY-BaQodyU8Kbg%2526srcrot%253D711-117182-37290-0%2526rvr_id%253D1219017453234&chn=ps

It tests for combustion gas in the cooling system. Drain the radiator just enough so that there's its empty in the top and coolant won't bubble up. Place the test tube where te radiator cap goes, pour test fluid into the tube. Let the engine run for a coupleminutes then use the bulb on top of the tube to suck air into it from the radiator. If combustion gas is present, it will turn piss yellow.

>>17267823
Plugs and wires are brand new, as is the radiator, hoses, thermostat, and all gaskets from the heads up. The coil packs are original, I'll have to test them tomorrow. Thanks for the insight

>>17267977
Also, hook up a vacuum gauge to the intake manifold. If the needle stays steady, 99% chance the valves are okay. If the needle is bouncing around, 99% your misfire is due to burned or out of time valve.

I can't remember, is that a pushrod or ohc motor? Did you have to reset timing with head gaskets?

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GM, Mopar, & import guy here. Never been into Fords, but man, there's something about the Maverick that I really like. There's a reasonably priced Grabber and also the standard versions that can easily have the 305 swapped in for cheap. I can get on & a 305 for under 4k, not sure if I should pull the trigger. Thoughts?

>>17268577
Be prepared to spend twice that. I've messed with several 70s trucks (Ford, not that it's relevant), and I always end up 2x or more over budget.

That's how it is with classic cars. I bought my 78 Bronco for 2500. I expected to put another 3000 into it and be done, for a total of 5500. I'm currently at 8500 and still climbing.

Getting close to being done for how I want it. I estimate it'll be another 1500 or 2000 before it's done and I'm not even painting it.

>>17269592
What have you been spending the money on? If it's rust, then you bought the wrong car.

>rust is ALWAYS the most expensive thing to repair

>harbor freight grinder and wheel $20
>harbor freight pop rivet gun $10
>patch panel cut at junkyard with nibbler $5
>rust converter and inhibitor $35
>silicone/latex caulk $10

What did he mean by this
My new carpet costs more than my entire floor repair and it's only $170 even with mass backing

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>>17242954
1961 Mercedes Benz 190D. 4 speed column shift and a little oil burner under the hood. 86K miles, relatively rust free too.

>>17269645
I think maybe he means that rust in weird places or just an absurd amount of it can add up quickly. A floor/trunk is easy but damn I wouldn't want to fuck with a roof or a fender if there were no panels or donor cars close by.
Good on you though for doing it yourself! I wouldn't attempt it myself.

>>17260835
Sounds awesome, for a newfag to towing how do I calculate the tounge weight? I'm assuming that's the weight pressing down on the ball/hitch yes?

>>17269782
Is that seat super dusty or super moldy?
Looks like it hasn't moved for ages

>>17269605
A lot of engine work. Overhauled transmission and t-case. A lot of preventative replacement like I did the entire brake system. A lot of random shit like the fuel tank was rusted through. The interior was falling apart, so I bought corbeau seats and carpet and weatherstrips, etc.

Alll of that shit adds up. I'm going through the truck stem to stern.

>>17269645
I'm pretty sure he meant having a body shop fix the rust for you.

Rust work isn't thar expensive for materials, it's just labor intensive.

>>17270108
Also to clarify, I didn't mean a lot of shit is rusted through on my truck, just the gas tank and a small spot on the lr fender. The rest is solid. Although I am afraid to strip the bed liner off the exterior and see what's underneath. All the seams are solid and the metal behind and underneath is solid but I'm not sure if the bed liner is covering up any hidden body work I can't see.

Has anyone here built a chassis from scratch before?
I just ordered some mild steel tubing and am gonna attempt to build a full tube chassis/rollcage for a project.

>>17269782
love these kind of classic cars that you know they wont go wrong and you dont mind taking them to long road trips.
those 190D engines are virtually bullet proof

>>17270090
Yo shit the interior is toasted. Mold! Original red leather though.

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bump

>>17272302
Original hideaways. Always thought those looked pretty cool.

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So I went and looked at this 1969 Ford Torino.

It's in pretty decent shape, the exterior has been semi restored, it could be touched up in a few places, but its solid. The interior is pretty much mint minus a crack in the drivers seat. biggest thing is that it doesn't love going into reverse, I think it needs a neutral safety switch, a wiper motor and a carb tune up. Should I cop? It's the nicest thing I've seen in my budget. It has the classic muscle car aesthetic and that glorious V8 rumble...

>>17272550
>biggest thing is that it doesn't love going into reverse
Auto or manual? Most Ford auto's from that time are a bit harsh in Reverse. The C4 notably so.

If the price is right there's no reason you shouldn't get it other that rust. That's about the only real deal killer.

>>17272569
It's the auto, I'm glad to here its a thing and not just an abused transmission. I'm so tempted its ridiculous!

>>17272569
the C3 in my Thunderbird and C6 in my 68 Continental are the same. 80% of the time it bangs into reverse

>>17272550
Hell yeah. That's a beautiful car. What's the engine? My C6 has a thud going into gear but my idle was turned up a little for winter so that never helps.

>>17272550
How much is the owner asking?

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>>17272613
The reverse thing is probably just the low-reverse band being out of adjustment.

>>17257121
>>17251551
how the hell do you keep a ford from that era on the road, are you guys loaded?

>>17273905
The parts are pretty cheap and truck stuff is stout

Someone pls gib 25k

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/6150011651.html

>>17273905
parts are cheap, junk yards probably have dozens of these old fords lying around to part out, and they're still old enough to be fairly simple to work on.

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My 1964 International Harvester Scout 80

It needs gauges, a top, bumpers, seats, and the doors and shocks need work. But I drive it about every day.

>>17267031
Fuel pump and fuel lines, and wiring it up to start. Also fluids.

>>17275105
Nice. Did you do anything to the motor before the swap?

>bump

>>17272550
>>17272613
>I'm so tempted its ridiculous!
Do it then you homosexual

>>17274795
I love how the speedo goes up to 150mph

So im looking at a couple of cars to buy, I cant decide on a 71 Charger 360 new built engine for 18K, or a 70 Challenger 383 for 15600 with ~13k miles on it
Help me out /o/

>>17277312
71 looks cooler

>>17275109
Cam, springs, head gaskets and chinese head studs.

I'm fucking salty right now, I dropped the tank and tried to put in my new sending unit that has a giant bulkhead in it but it doesn't fit. I just did what I should've done weeks ago which is buy a new tank and sump it at work.

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>>17277312
71 Charger. Coca-Cola bodystyle and those beautiful side windows. UUUHHHNNNGG

>tfw your father had a '72 charger but sold it a year after you were born

>>17277411
You do realize he sold it because of you, right? It was literally your fault.

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Just pulled her out of the garage tonight and gave her a quick rinse. Fucking squirrels knocked a bunch of dust and cardboard onto it over the winter

>>17277411
What if he sold it because he didnt want you driving the car where you were made in?

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>>17277527
Fuckin nice dude.

>>17277547
Maybe in the morning or some morning after work I'll give her a real scrub instead of just hosing it down. Didn't have time tonight more much more than that

>>17277312
I've always loved up challengers. Near perfect body imho

>>17277312
Go for the Challenger

>>17277325
Lel. That's why the first tech command center is so appealing to me. You can keep the full fuel system, you just need to route the fuel pump to the device and then the device to the efi system.

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>>17277312
Well since its 50/50, heres a pic of the challenger

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>>17278284
and one of the Charger

>>17278130
Fi tech*

>>17278284
>Purple challenger with white vinyl top
Get that. Aesthetic as fuck.

>>17243085
good lord

>>17278284
Challenger all the way

hey anons,
I'm going to check out a classic car on Monday but I forgot that Monday was a holiday and that the banks will be closed, I was going to take two days to drive 5 hours to this place, then the next day to drive the 5 hours back.

problem is I can't take money out of my bank before I go on Monday because it's closed. any of you guys know a way to get 5k+ in cash from your bank transferred to you somewhere else? like within an hour or something?

>>17279779
Ask if you can PayPal it; I just did that yesterday for the same reason.

>>17280537
unfortunately no, the seller is a little bit of an older dude, he specifically said no to PayPal in his ad. looks like I'll just have to make the trip later and hope the car doesn't sell.

thanks anyhow Drac

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Just ordered 6 floor pan patch panels for muh rivi'. Gotta do floor pans, roof repair, and a little quarter panel patching then metal work should be done and on to body work.

>>17281264
Did you ever get started on the roof?

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>>17281283
I bought a donor car for it. Gonna drill out all the spot welds and replace the whole roof skin with the donor car's skin. Donor car was in a mild/medium front end wreck along with a sideswipe on the driver's side and is rustier than mine, so just gonna use the roof off of it instead of using mine to repair it.

>>17281349
Oh that's pretty sweet then. Always nice having a parts car. Then what ever you don't use you can always sell online

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Well I had a hell of an issue a week or so ago. Impala just up and quit running. In two days I replaced the fuel pump and rebuilt the carb only find it still wouldn't run. Finally checked the fuel and it was terrible. Ended up pumping over 4 gallons of water out of the fuel tank. I didn't keep the receipt from my last fuel up, despite knowing the time and date (Thanks to my AAA call), so the gas station won't come good for it. Last time I ever fill up there.

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>>17281375

Ass shot for posterity.

>>17281375
how the hell does that even happen?

>>17281473

No idea. I usually fill at that station because they have 93, but fuck em.

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>>17281375
>over 4 gallons of water out of the fuel tank

I went out to buy a parts car today; it's so nice that my car will be its parts car.

>>17281405
lewd

>>17282427
parts car for the rolls or Delorean?

>>17282434
Rolls.

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>>17281405
fuckin sweet my dude

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>be given a good card to get my sound system upgraded in truck
>Been there all day yesterday and all day today
>Go to pick it up today
>Sounds great
>Turn truck on
>Turn press play on music
>Nothing
>Mfw
I wish I new something about electricity and how it worked. I feel cucked.

>>17282438
Post a pic.

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I'd love for muh rivi' to have positrac, but they don't have an aftermarket positrac differential for it from what I can find. The only way I could have positrac would to find a rare Buick 12 bolt positrac differential, or swap out the whole axle for a chevy 12 bolt axle from out of something like an old chevelle.

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>>17282537

>>17282551
I felt like reeee-ing at the black guy working there but then I remembered I'm not autistic enough for that.

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79 Trans am dude with another update. We found out it's not a lifter tick and got the exhaust welded solving the issue. In the process we found out the intake manifold gasket has a leak at the front. Luckily there's not any coolant in the oil. I've got an edelbrock aluminum intake and was curious what gaskets to use since summit has the big "turkey tray" or the individual gaskets. I'm no expert on these so what should I use?

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>>17282992
Take the intake off and see what was used on it. For aftermarket, its usually the individual, and turkey trays are normally for stock intakes. I think. Not too much experience with Pontiac engines. I know my Buick 455 with the stock intake takes the turkey tray.

>>17282992
Also, if you use the individuals, do not use the rubber gaskets it comes with for the front and back of the valley. Use a thick bead of silicone. Those rubber seals never work and usually just squish out or into the valley.

>>17283099
I was hoping someone had already done this so I didn't have to take my manifold off yet. Anyway, I'll take it off tomorrow and look. Also is there any benefit over using the rubber gaskets instead of the turkey tray or vice versa?

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>>17282537

>>17283197
How the fuck is that a parts car? It looks great on the outside

>>17283205
Read the previous posts you fat chink

>>17283220
what are you going on about

>>17283229
>I went out to buy a parts car today; it's so nice that my car will be its parts car.
Read that post again Xiao Wang

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>>17283205
I do not know...

>>17283241
Yeah,the white car was going to be a parts car but it's better.
What are you on about?
My meaning was that how would that car be listed as a parts car?
And that's Zhou Liung to you nigger

>>17283267
Nearest I can tell, that's what he bought it for; he also had a '77 Rolls.

>>17283183
If you use turkey tray, you still have to silicone it to seal it in some areas. I'd personally prefer the individual gaskets over the turkey tray. Turkey tray is metal on metal on metal trying to seal. Individual gaskets are rubber/paper/magic material that seals the two metals.

>>17283378
Why are you writing in the third person

>>17278284
Challenger

>>17283261
>Left-hand drive
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

>>17242954
nice and only 600$

gonna leave my normiegram profile here, dont have any pics on pc.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUhtV_JgMQN/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQRYSash-SX/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQoSZPyA08P/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BQoSgpEAl9-/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BS9h9i0goXH/

>>17285022
>leaving social media links

Absolutely disgusting.

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>>17285156
sorry, im a normie.
should i back to le redit?

>>17285221
please tell me im autistic and that is just like Microsoft paint and a wrap or something

>>17285237
its a wrap, not entirely sure where this was posted first, but some guy wanted "racing livery" for his car, so he just did this...

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>>17285237

>>17283768
I'm not. The guy I got it from bought the car for parts for his '77 and, to him, it was a parts car. That's how he described it and advertised it.

>>17285436
That makes a lot more sense.

>>17285502
Jesus m8 you're retarded

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>buying boots instead of parts
Am i a poser yet?

>>17286879
>now we have to deal with the equivalents of 2 kitkats
Im out of here

>>17287209
but anon i actually bought the engine i plan to swap
No offense kkk

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Naturally the service department is dead on Memorial Day so I decided to work on the Bronco. Pulled the top off to replace all the weatherstrips in preparation for the new carpet. Got the entire top and tailgate done, laid the vinyl flooring the cargo area. Just have the doors and front windows to re-strip, then the carpeting can go in.

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>>17287289

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>>17287312

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someone going to make a new thread or wat

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>>17286879
Boots are fun.

>>17287718
shoefags don't get it

New thread when