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In 2017, diesel has become better than petrol. Prove me wrong

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In 2017, diesel has become better than petrol.
Prove me wrong
Diesel pros
>more torque
>more economical
>more power down low
>overtakes faster
>power delivery rough as fuck makes it feel faster than it is
Diesel cons
>muh sound
>muh 1000 fewer revs
>muh powerband starts at 2000 instead of 4000
>pollutes more (who cares??)

here's a pic of a 125d getting 16 mpg at 150 mph on the autobahn. on a regular run keeping a very fast rhythm it will get 35/40 mpg us easily.
you can set the cruise at 120 mph and it will return almost 25 mpg.
it has 225 hp and 330 ft lb (450 nm) and goes 0-60 in 6.3 seconds.
why would a sane human being go for the 125i which is going to get 35% worse fuel economy while being slower most times in the real world?
There is LITERALLY no objective advantage to petrol anymore.
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>>17187478
Diesel cuck detected.
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Diesel cons
>taxed to shit

Ftfy
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Diesel cars literally don't run at high altitude.
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>>17187716
Then how do they use diesel in aircraft?
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>>17187478
>pollutes more
wrong. ultra low sulphur + DEF & DPF + a good tune has diesel engines making more power and running cleaner. The future is diesel.
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>>17187478
my truck gets 31mpg on the highway with an inline 4 and 32's
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>having to piss in your car to make it not kill all wild life
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>>17189406
so poor you can't afford to fill a 5 gallon tank that cost 10 dollars every 300 gallons of fuel
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>>17187716
All modern diesels use turbocharging, so altitude isn't a problem.

The main things are cost (expect to pay a shitload more for a diesel version of a car/truck), and reliability.

Common rail diesels have plenty of problems with injectors, EGR, suction control valves, turbochargers, sensors, etc. Working on them is annoying, parts cost more, so repairs cost heaps
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Also you feel like a farmer driving these things without being able to rev up to 7k rpm and it just feels shit. Why the fuck would one ever by a farmer engine in a car?
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Diesels have way too much emissions equipment on them nowadays. Specifically for diesel trucks.
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Diesel belongs in agricultural machinery, not in cars.
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Petrol emissions are theorised to maybe accelerate by a possibly measurable amount a natural process. Diesel emissions are proven without doubt to kill biological life. That aside from the lies about power etc
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>>17191057
why exactly?
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>>17187478
Diesel is a meme for anonymous sex
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>more torque

That's the torque at the drive shaft, you want to know the torque at the wheels...and you might be surprised to know that in the end a turbo petrol engine compared to a similar turbo Diesel one could have better figures.

Also the Diesel engine is heavier and therefore you have extra weight on the front of your car. You don't want it.
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>>17192287
A diesel engine has generally more torque for a given horsepower, and has a more usable torque curve than the equivalent gas engine.

Also
>You wanna know the torque at the wheels.
Yeah, a gas engine with less torque can have shorter gears to get more torque to the wheels. The same can be done with the diesel.

>Extra weight.
Not gonna argue with that one. Diesel engines have come a long way, but still lag behind in power:weight ratio. Not that most of the people who buy diesel cares, tho.
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Diesel is fucking amazing and addicting as fuck.
Only prejudiced fags who never drove a modern diesel talk shit about it.
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>>17192624
>le diesel fiat maymay
In all seriousness I wish there were more small diesels in North America.
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>>17189452
so poor you can't afford fuel
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>>17187680
Literally the same tax in every state in freedom land. No one gives a shit about you sand nigger lovers, so your taxes are irrelevant.
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>>17189528
What exactly the fuck are you smoking? THE defining characteristic of diesel is that it's more reliable than gas.
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