Is the inline 6 the best engine configuration ever?

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>>17181441
>not posting the best I6

>>17181441
Pretty much. Hits basically all the right marks.
>yfw Nu-Supra will have a BMW Turbo i4

>2JZ
>AMC 4.0L
>Ford 300

Yes. Yes it is.

>>17181451
v6*

Only in longitudal front engines applications, but you've got to ask yourself why not a V8? If it's a sporting model

>>17181466
Because I'm not a 65 year old Fudd that sticks with
MUH VEE ATE for the same reason he still uses .45 AARP.

>>17181476
A V8 is going to weigh less than an I6

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>>17181447
>that cute little turbo

>>17181466

better noise
generally a bit revvier

i6s love to be high strung and stay up top

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>>17181441
Makes great power, but sounds like shit like all 6's

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>>17181476
Not him but a V8 can usually do whatever a straight six can but better.

>>17181485
>i6s love to be high strung and stay up top
Yeah, no i beg to differ, most straight sixes that have been produced have been long stroke engines and just because they can hit 6 grand doesn't mean it's good to keep them there for a while.

>>17181495

Drive any BMW i6 made from 1980-1993

>>17181441

For a 6+ liter diesel... A gas turbo 4 or V6 does it's job better.

>>17181499
Drive any straight six from 1915 to 1980.

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>>17181507

American 4x4s and luxury sedans don't count.

Sports applications refers to sports cars, i6 sports cars love revving.

>>17181521
>American 4x4s and luxury sedans don't count.
>it doesn't count because it hurts my arguement
lmao.

The straight six is one of the oldest engine layouts ever.
The V8 only predated it by a few years but even then the straight six was much more common. Your little theory about strung out straight sixes is simply false, the sheer number of production long stroke straight sixes outweighs your precious sports engines by leaps and bounds, shit Cummins is still making straight sixes for duty engines as we speak and anyone knows they don't rev for shit.

>>17181441
Although excellent, its biggest drawback is if you want to increase the bore 1 mm it increases engine length by 6 mm. So it usually leans toward being undersquare - if you're into that sort of thing. Flat 6 does not cool as efficiently as the I6, but it does not have the same 6x multiplicative lengthening issue. *adjusts glasses*

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>>17181546
>t.

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What about two inline 6s put together?

>>17181546
>its biggest drawback is if you want to increase the bore 1 mm it increases engine length by 6 mm.
>inline engines are long

rly maeks u tink

>>17181564
When BMW tried it they made a mess of it, some anon on here has one of those BMW V12s.

>>17181483
It has 4.2L of displacement. It doesn't need a big turbo.

>>17181454
>Ford 300
>1941 - 1996 in the US
>1960 - 2016 in Australia
>twenty sixteen
Who the hell was buying this and why for so long?

>>17181555
Thank you.

>>17181569
meme all you want, the length is the primary reason the V6 made it's disgusting stain on the automotive world.

>>17181588
Detroit made straight-six will outlive you, plain and simple.

>>17181538

>cummins is making straight sixes for duty engines

gee what a sporty sports application for a sporty i6 that loves to rev.

I will consider your learned advice from now on, if i build a sports car I shall use a V8 over an i6 designed for non sports applications as it is significantly greater than the many rev happy performance inline 6 engines available.

Perhaps i should look into straight 8s also for my needs.

thank you knowledgable squire.

>>17181570
Their V12 won le mans so I think they know what they are doing.

>>17181573
4u

>>17181594
>Detroit made straight-six will outlive you, plain and simple.
This, pretty much. I've had two and they're far and away the longest running engines I've had.

>>17181599
They did get BTFO by pushrods in ALMS so id question that a bit.

>>17181623
3 points down at the end of a 12 round championship isn't getting btfo

and pretty sure panoz dnf'd le mans the same year

>>17181546
>bore cylinders
>block increases in length
what

>>17181441
The only problem is that the car has to have a nose extension in order to fit the engine in

>>17181597
>many
Yeah, that's your problem, you still believe this is true.

Many inline engines, particularly those mounted transversely in front-wheel-drive cars, utilize an undersquare design. The smaller bore allows for a shorter engine that increases room available for the front wheels to steer. Examples of this include many Volkswagen, Nissan, Honda, and Mazda engines. The 1KR-FE-engine used in the Toyota Aygo, Citroën C1 and Peugeot 107 amongst others is an example of a modern long-stroke engine widely used in FF layout cars. This engine has a 71 mm bore and 84 mm stroke giving it a bore/stroke ratio of 0.845:1. Some rear-wheel-drive cars that borrow engines from front-wheel-drive cars (such as the Mazda MX-5) use an undersquare design.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stroke_ratio#Undersquare_or_long-stroke_engine

The only engine you're even referring to is a 2JZ, we all know it.
To your attempt at an arguement, the BMW N54 is losing power at high revs.
Pic related, so that kills your theory there.
2JZ is a square engine but the the number of those pales in comparison to all the long stroke straight sixes so it's not even worth mentioning.
The only engine that fits your wet dream is RB26DETT and once again, that's just a rain drop in the ocean of straight sixes.

>b..but x doesn't count!
Wrong.
Also straight 8s can rev no problem. Torsional vibration was about solved by the time the last of the 8s were being made. There are plenty of Bonneville straight 8s that can rev.

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Inlinelets will actually defend this.

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>>17181597

>Not having a Cummins in your sports car.

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>>17181647
Engine blocks are cast retard, they don't bore the cylinders out of a chunk of iron.
You still need a certain amount of space between the walls of the cylinders.

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>>17181656
Forgot my torque curve

>>17181645
>pretty sure panoz dnf'd le mans the same year
None of them DNF although 2 out of 4 BMW LMPs did.

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It is well known that the LS is God's own engine. Therefore the V8 is the best engine configuration.

>>17181693
>literal shit engine
Pick any other V8 besides the mod motor and i'd agree with you.

>>17181679
Many bore out the blocks for more displacement retard.

shit is unbalanced. sometimes there is one boom, sometimes there is two booms. Enjoy your glorified vibrator.

>>17181697
>shit engine
>capable of Chiron level power reliably for a 100th of the price.

Most procucktion engines still can't meet it's power to weight ratio. Truly a gift from the Gods.

>>17181706
is that why so many girls like those old wranglers?

If space is a problem crossplane v8 is better.

>>17181712
>>17181724
>2 motorcycle engines bolted together for racing purposes only
doesn't count. You're retarded

>>17181656

>>17181466

>why not a v8 if it's a sporting model

>>17181495

>Yeah, no i beg to differ, most straight sixes that have been produced have been long stroke engines and just because they can hit 6 grand doesn't mean it's good to keep them there for a while.

>>17181507
>>17181538

>shit Cummins is still making straight sixes for duty engines as we speak and anyone knows they don't rev for shit.

>>17181656

>Many inline engines, particularly those mounted transversely in front-wheel-drive cars

When talking about sports applications, in what way are inline engines designed for differing applications relevant? Any information regarding the use of these engines in sports applications is entirely irrelevant. I may as well start quoting Diesel Dodge Ram facts at you.

Moreover, cherry picking a single modern BMW engine ignores the wealth of rev happy i6s, the Nissan L/S20, the 30 years of RB, the 15 or so BMW M and S series engines, of course Toyota's JZ, 1G and to a lesser extent 7M.

Obviously I'm missing quite a few. There's also the fact that most SPORTS cars with inline 6s are known to be revvier than sports cars known to have V8s. While some European low displacement flat crank V8s exist that rev very high, the average cross plane V8 that has been put in all but the most high end sports cars is known to be torquey and redline at 6k.

That's not the say teh V8 isn't a great engine, but suggesting that i6s can't rev by citing some Jeeps and pre war roadsters is asinine.

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OHCfags will defend this

>>17181749
ohc = more power

>>17181724

I don't see any of those little kids engines making 2000hp. Have fun playing with big go karts when the real men are going fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PznboTtpwA8

>>17181754
for a given displacement ys. but consider this.
The engine on the left is a GM LS376 crate engine (an LS3 with a cam) displacing 6.2L and making around 500 HP.
The engine on the right is a Ford 5.0L Coyote crate engine making about 412 HP.
Again. Defend this

>>17181757
Is there an OHC motor running 4's?

>>17181707
>>capable of Chiron level power reliably for a 100th of the price.
So can literally any Detroit V8.
Horsepower is a function of money and time.

>>17181774
Probably because most drag racers aren't stupid enough to pump all that money into a smallblock. Pushrod big blocks dominate drag racing for a reason.

>>17181775
Not as cheaply and easily as the LS, endless aftermarket. The physical size and weight of even a junkyard truck iron block makes them hard to beat. Add an Ebay turbo and you got a 700+hp beast.

>>17181747
>in what way are inline engines designed for differing applications relevant?
This is not the issue.
The issue is the long stroke, low revs straight sixes vastly outnumber the ones capable of revving, this is counter to the statement
>>17181485
>generally a bit revvier
>i6s love to be high strung and stay up top
When the majority of straight sixes were designed and built to run at mid range or low revs.

>Moreover, cherry picking a single modern BMW engine ignores t
You specifically mentioned BMW.
>>17181499
>Drive any BMW i6 made from 1980-1993

>wealth
Wrong.

> the Nissan L/S20, the 30 years of RB, the 15 or so BMW M and S series engines, of course Toyota's JZ, 1G and to a lesser extent 7M.
You've listed a handful of engine models. Meanwhile all 4 of the biggest Detroit auto manufacturers were building long stroke straight sixes for over 50 consecutive years.
Chrysler literally lived and breathed straight sixes from the flatheads of 1932 until production of the slant six ended in 2000.
Repeat the story for Ford and GM.
Even most of all of the semi trucks produced had straight engines.
You made a generalizing statement and you were wrong. Own it.

>>17181787
>Moving goal posts

>>17181812
>Not as cheaply and easily as the LS, endless aftermarket.
Bullshit, the aftermarket for any Detroit V8 is huge, even the shitty ones and it's always fucking cheap, not matter what engine.

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>>17181830
>It was an OHC big block and pushcucks couldnt compete
Still reposting this, NASCAR delayed the proliferation of OHC in American cars by 20 years

>long awkward shape makes packaging a nightmare
>long shape also allows it to warp
>vibrations from the long crankshaft have been known to destroy oil pumps
>just get a fucking V8, V6 is superior in every way and it's no longer 1981 when they were V8s with two cylinders lopped off

>>17181814

>You made a generalizing statement and you were wrong. Own it.

You're right. I humbly apologise for upsetting your sensibilities by generalising about sports engines for sports applications when asked about sports cars.

I should clarify in future for those with limited reading comprehension that I refer to sports engines in such a conversation when I generalise about sports engines, so that those people are not mistaken with 4x4 or economy engines, as is very possible in a discussion regarding sports vehicles.

You totally got me, I was so wrong about inline 6 sports cars. That Jeep Cherokee just demolished my argument about why the engine is bad for a sports car.

>You've listed a handful of engine models. Meanwhile all 4 of the biggest Detroit auto manufacturers were building long stroke straight sixes for over 50 consecutive years.
Chrysler literally lived and breathed straight sixes from the flatheads of 1932 until production of the slant six ended in 2000.
Repeat the story for Ford and GM.
Even most of all of the semi trucks produced had straight engines.

s p o r t s c a r s

>You specifically mentioned BMW.

You specifically mentioned the N54

>>17181836
Nascar didn't do anything. If anything they encouraged mass production. Which the big 3 wouldn't do. They could've had an OHC if it was put in street cars

>>17181857
You only started mentioning sports cars after i called out your bullshit.
Keep crying about how everything else doesn't count even though some of those asshole long stroke engines have been used in racing.

>>17181859
>If anything they encouraged mass production
That's what i mean, Had NASCAR not banned "exotic" engines, Detroit would have been forced to sell the Cammer and the DOHC Hemi in consumer cars.

>>17181724
>two highly strung out motorcycle engines welded together that only has real application in ultralight track cars

Not saying it's not badass, but you can't street a Hayabusa engine unless it's on a Hayabusa. Doubling won't help either.

>>17181868

you literally made the conversation about sports cars in the first post senpai

>>17181466

You got caught up in semantics and argued about a completely different topic because you couldn't follow a single train of thought.

>>17181884
>you literally made the conversation about sports cars in the first post senpai
Quote it then, i'll be here.

>>17181887

a third time for your convenience

>>17181466

>>17181889
Well there's your problem, that's not me.

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>>17181870

You could theoretically daily one of these and they're 'Busa powered. They top out at around 160km/h at the limiter though so you'll probably go deaf.

>>17181898
Yeah, I would figure comfort would be an issue. And longevity.
>>17181906
But it still would not last as long as an LS1. Never mind the fact that it would most likely not have enough torque to move anything larger than >>17181898, high mileage on motorcycles is considered to be around the five digits. Go over 20k and it's a super high mileage engine.

>>17181918
>But it still would not last as long as an LS1. Never mind the fact that it would most likely not have enough torque to move anything larger than >>17181898, high mileage on motorcycles is considered to be around the five digits. Go over 20k and it's a super high mileage engine.
There is no reason for motorcycle engines to not go as long as car engines, mine is about to hit 60k.

>>17181927
>There is no reason for motorcycle engines to not go as long as car engines\

There kind of is. Higher rpm's=Higher wear, That's just physics. Motorcycle engines only last long because they only have to move 600lbs.

for utility the inline 6 is best.
for sport a flat 6 with the biggest turbos you can find and behind the rear axle, the only drive axle, is best.

>>17181857
>Chrysler literally lived and breathed straight sixes from the flatheads of 1932 until production of the slant six ended in 2000.
How the fuck are you forgetting the AMC I6, which they acquired and continued to produce until 2006?

>>17181948
>How the fuck are you forgetting the AMC I6,
I didn't.
>>17181814
>Meanwhile all 4 of the biggest Detroit
You're also quoting the guy who was quoting me.

>>17181447
That is not the S54B32HP
112 hp per liter naturally aspirated, lightweight block, 8000rpm redline

>>17181958
>I didn't.
Then why did you say 2000 as the end date?

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>>17181947

Flat 6's are fucking useless.They sound like shit and make shit power. Porsche act like Gods because they can squeeze 600hp from 4 liters when a LS that weighs less easily makes that without forced incucktion. It's displacement is too small to be taken seriously and it sounds like absolute shit.

>>17181965
I was specifically talking about the slant six bro, i don't know much about AMC, i mostly know about Chrysler shit.

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>>17181441
Straight 6 > Inline 6 > Vee 6

>>17181985
This guy knows which side of his toast is buttered.

>>17181982
no bro, gm fangirls are the most ignoble of people.
Pushrods have their utility in cars from the 50's.

>>17181573
A turbo that small is comical. It needs two of them that size if it's a fucking 4.2L

>>17181975
Well it was chrysler's for about ~25 years.

>>17182012
It could be at pretty high compression as-is.

>>17182023
you mean the one in the jeep?
I didn't know they still made it till 2006. I thought they moved on to their V6 by then.

>>17181968
And yet flat 6 has won le mans And gm shit never ever has

Also a flat 6 holds the record for fastest car around the nurburgring

>>17182031
No, they ended production in the 4.0L in 2006 and replaced it with the 3.8L V6, which was only ever an interim engine and came from their minivans (my mom had one, it had more get-up than you'd think) which they replaced in a couple of years in everything it went into with the Pentastar.

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>not using a radial 6
the fuck is wrong with people here

Daily reminder that if you care about engine sound over literally any other metric you have no business discussing performance and belong in /ovg/.

>>17182055
but bro, they do sound pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akOiuCZcDUQ

>>17181985
>Straight 6 > Inline 6

what did he mean by this

>>17182054
>overheats within minutes.
You do not know what it's like driving around with airplane motors.

>>17182055
>>17182055
>ovg
You mean the thread with people that race cars irl?

>>17182083
Fine. /osg/.

>>17182023
There's more to boost than pressure

>>17181485
>generally a bit revvier
>i6s love to be high strung and stay up top
I would actually agree with this. Even for large I6s that don't rev very high, they seem to be more free-revving.

My comparison comes from regularly driving a Dakota with a 318 v8 and a Cherokee with the 4.0 HO I6, both 5 speeds. They both top out at about 5,000rpm. The Dakota likes to just lug around at like 600 - 1,500 rpm. It revs kinda lazy and much above 2,000 - 2,500 rpm it really teeters between either bucking around trying to slow down, or just full torque dump screaming. The Cherokee on the other hand, you can blip the throttle and the engine responds really really fast, perfect for heal toe and general rev matching. It also has a really even torque delivery and throttle response all the way through the rev range. Really doesn't feel uncomfortable at 1/4, 1/2 or full throttle anywhere aside from lugging at idle in a high gear.

I'd say the 318 is obviously a more impressive engine in regards to actual power and torque output (though it is much larger so that's not really fair) but the 4.0 is actually more fun to drive fast because it's easier to control even when you're pushing really hard.

>>17182110
You're really comparing gear ratios honestly. 318 isn't winning any races that's for sure.

>>17181968
>LS that weighs less easily makes that without forced incucktion
the only factory offered ls that came close to 500hp was the ls7 which weighs 20 lbs more than a 4.0 naturally aspirated flat 6 making 500hp.

The ls7 is alot cheaper though.

>>17181447
Where's the turbo?

>>17182128
You ever notice how LSfags like to just cherrypick stats from another LS and use it for their own?
No your catfish doesn't have an LT1.

>>17182128

"production" is meaningless in North America. Not many people keep their cars stock in the land of no inspections. It's pretty fucking pathetic if there's only a 20lb difference between the flat 6 and the V8, I was exaggerating but I didn't think it was that bad. That LS would be making nasty power with some overnight parts from JEGS.

>>17182152
The LS family is pretty fucking broad. The term LS covers a lot of different engines, Which are all amazing. Even a iron block truck motor is capable of LT4 power with some love and parts from emperor Mao's poundland.

>>17182110
>I'd say the 318 is obviously a more impressive engine in regards to actual power and torque output
The limits of the AMC I6 are 5.0L displacement (both stroked and bored) and between 500 and 600hp. But at that point you're going to have done everything you possibly could to the engine using every trick in the book, parts from numerous different AMC I6 engines, titanium internals, and a supercharger.
http://www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/engine/154-0911-jeep-insane-inline-ii/photo-01.html
These guys got 558hp and supposedly 30lbs of boost. That would be one fucking insane baja cherokee.

>>17182175
And still get blown by my EG hatch with a few simple mods lmao

>>17182152
>catfish doesnt have an LT1

Are you fucking autistic or something?

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>>17182198

All those "simple mawds" and it can't keep up with this. Have fun in your grocery getter.

>>17182125
Did you read my post? I specifically wrote about the feel of the engine when revving in between shifts and the range of throttle response, neither of which are really affected by the gear ratios. They are both large non-performance low revving engines designed to carry around a lot of weight at high speed and have tall gears, though the Jeep has taller gears to be sure. The point is that the engines react differently to the throttle.

>>17182175
I'm in the u.s.
Most cars are stock, even among enthusiast. There are very very few f-bodies, vettes, or anything else with an ls with modifications that add power.

If you want to go down the "lets just bolt on power" a mezger flat 6 is still going to be better. It will easily put out 800 hp for 24 hours and ask for more.

again though, you could probably buy a months worth LSx engines for the cost of a high hp mezger.

>>17182211
Is that how americans reduce the weight of their trash?

>>17182193
LS just refers to LSx(1,2,3,6,...). The vortecs are votecs, not LSx and the new LT1 is an lt, not a LS.

GM sucks at engine naming.

I find discussions like this idiotic when headless designs from the 40's produced fucking retarded amounts of power for even today. If you wanted a simple engine that puts out horses like the jews put out lies you'd build one of those and run all the boost you possibly could in it and get 900hp from 3L of displacement.

>>17182228
I will. Still faster than your bus.
>>17182229
You must live somewhere poor. I drive by performance tuning shops with brand new Vettes, Stangs and Camaro's waiting to be tuned up to stupid levels.
A $100k built motor accomplishing what a sub $5k V8 build costs says a lot.
>>17182232
Whatever works. Still faster than a Atom or that piece of shit Radical.
>>17182232
It's basically thew same shit with slightly different displacements. GM does that to make it easier on other manufacturers when they get destroyed by a 60 year old engine design. It makes it seem like a "new" engine.

>>17182228
i don't have a dog in this fight but who gives a shit about top speed

>>17182293
Do you actually believe what you say?

>>17181971
And its redline is the idle speed of many motorcycles.

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two yuro 6 cylinder engines combined can't even keep up with one v8 fact

>>17182293
>You must live somewhere poor. I drive by performance tuning shops with brand new Vettes, Stangs and Camaro's waiting to be tuned up to stupid levels.
there are about 38000 vettes made a year. How many do you see at tuning shops? What percentage of vettes do you think actually get really tuned (not just bullshit exhaust). What do you think the end percentage is? are you really that goofy?


>A $100k built motor accomplishing what a sub $5k V8 build costs says a lot.
a $5k v8 is going to put out 800hp for 24 hours straight? wow the vette team must be saving so much money losing to a turbo v6 and a non turbo flat 6.
No need to answer that question about being goofy, I know the know the answer.

>>17182293
>faster than a radical
>shitty stripped out c4 with no downforce
God damn gm cucks are retarded

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>>17181588
Talking shit about the Barra, i'll fuck you up mate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70XvW4Yh5vw

>>17182215
The difference is Chrysler continued to improve the 4.0 while the 318 has been the same shit since the early 60's except when they went "magnum"

>>17182293
>A $100k built motor accomplishing what a sub $5k V8 build costs says a lot.
The difference is the ebay parts are more likely to fail.

>>17182325
Is the Barra related at all to the Ford 300?

>>17182325
>XD
Get the fuck out.

>>17182332
And thank fucking god they did, Renix was the worst thing since someone figured out shoving shit under fingernails causes severe pain.

>>17182344
>Anyone who isnt a stop light racing cuck?
Top speed is nothing.
acceleration is all that matters.

>>17182293
>You must live somewhere poor. I drive by performance tuning shops with brand new Vettes, Stangs and Camaro's waiting to be tuned up to stupid levels.
>Therefore this is how all or even how most of America is
People do not mod their cars because
a. It costs money.
b. It reduces reliability.
c. It reduces economy.
d. It costs money.
e. It may affect resale value.
f. It costs money.
Your anecdotal evidence proves nothing.

>>17182344
what's a stop light racing cuck?

>>17182363
The cancer that is killing /o/

>>17181985
/thread

>>17182381
t.the kid that forces the others to race on Rainbow Road and picks the worst handling kart so he can drift just because he doesn't have the skill to race any other tracks.

>>17182389
Yes i am

>>17182423
Holy shit that explains why you're so homosexual.

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>>17181441
yeap

>>17182448
MARIO KART IS NOT FOR BATTLE MODE GO PLAY MARIO PARTY YOU FUCKING BONER

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>>17182323
Have you ever been on youtube? There's fucking 16 year olds and high school kids with 700hp Vettes. I get the feeling you're a European who's never heard a real V8.
>comparing racing to real life...
Who's "goofy"? Fucking faggot.

>>17182324
That piece of shit go destroyed by NASCAR's at Goodwood.

>>17182339
I'd trust Chinesium parts over German shit any day. At least it's cheap to replace when it inevitably fails unlike the German vehicle.

>>17182362
pls go be euro somewhere else. You people are fucking depressing.

>>17182502
>There's fucking 16 year olds and high school kids with 700hp Vettes
Just let Darwinism handle it.

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>>17181494
are you deaf?
https://youtu.be/bhw8Tpa78wg
>>17181504
WRONG
>>17181588
hmm 4L inline 6 makes 436hp from factory (only 8 psi) and 425lb-ft torque at 2750rpm while simultaneously getting the same economy as a prius on the highway, I wonder why
>>17181693
gets beaten by 30 year old unopened rb20
https://youtu.be/TW3ZC8jyrAo

>>17182524
>uses some jap toilet plumbing as an example of a good sounding engine

well...you tried

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>it's another ls fags get butthurt episode
Thanks for the laughs guys

>>17182502
>comparing racing to real life...
racing is life... why are you even here?

>>17182502
A nascar is comparable to a shitty stripped down c4 corvette?
Lmao gm cucks truly are retarded

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>>17182352
>XD
Its an XD ford falcon anon, not an emote

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>>17182571

>>17181564
Shit

>>17182502
>>17182554
Those nascars can turn a lot better than i thought they could.. aren't they like 3500 lb soap bars?

>>17182605
nice selfie

>>17182613
They have to be 3,300 pounds.
They are engineered to turn to the left easily.

>>17181441
Pros:
-sexy inline 6 snarl
-good torque characteristics

Cons:
-more susceptible to warpage
-very large, heavy engine

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>>17182537
>actually pretending that doesnt sound good

>>17182709
it sounds like a fucking fart can.
Shit my motorcuckle sounds better.

I enjoy mine. Sounds good, goes good, came in a comfy car. It's a little thirsty but otherwise pretty sweet.

>>17182734
>t. harleyfag

>>17182746
I don't think Harley made a V4. Also Harleys sound like shit too.

>>17182734
lol dumbass

>>17182758
Stay made your shitbox sounds like a bunch of sharts

>>17182613
>>17182639

It's a stiff tube chassis with decent suspension. Put some sticky slicks and bigger brakes on it and correct the suspension and it's got some potential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UgObvliqFU

>>17182613
Nascar races one or two road courses a year.

>>17181985
>Straight 6 > Inline 6
WHAT DID HE MEAN BY THIS

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>>17182949
He means calling it an inline six shows how much of a faggot you are.
Straight six rolls off the tongue better

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>mfw i caused this trigger

That's a funny way of spelling H-(anything)

>>17181968
You're the same fuck who cries in every thread that ever talks about Porsche or boxers, you need to tell us where the Boxer engine touched you and then stole your girl.

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incorrect

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>>17183977
>posts a disgusting piece of shit

>>17182142
top left corner of the engine bay. Those engines did not come stock with one.

FOr those confused, it's a GM Atlas LL8 4200 Vortec 4.2L I6 from the Chevy Trailblazer. The last American I6, and it was on Ward's 10 best engines list numerous times.

RB26 GODZILLA GOD MACHINE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJVHrteS54Y

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>>17182605
It's not that he's a retarded American, it's that he's a GM guy.

>>17183977
why do weeaboos have a hard-on for this ancient corolla engine?

v8>i6>v6>i4
no matter how hard you fight any american pony/muscle v8 will do everything better than ur shit sub 4.0 engines
prove me wrong
>you cant

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>>17184015

Trash engine. By the time you get it to modern power levels it's basically a dyno queen.

>>17184291
>posts a car that's only used to make smoke
Lmao, let's see a v8 swapped skyline do anything of actual worth

Oh wait,
>can't Retain all wheel drive with pigfat ohv shit
Lmao

i6 is good for cars with long thicc bonnets but it's impossible to package properly these days.

Sadly v6tt has been doing it better since the 1980s

T. V8 master race

V8s and straight 6s are the only choice for men.

>>17184145
Takumi blew up two of them so idk.

>>17184511
>v6tt has been doing it better since the 1980s
since the 2000's i'd say

>bro drives GS300 lexus with na 2jz vvt
>wishes it was a gs400 with the 4.0l 1UZ V8

>my LS1 V8 car gets better gas mileage and has almost twice the available power

remind me again why straight sixes are better than a V8?

>>17184350
>wanting awd on a race car

>pigfat ohv

>jacks off to iron block straight sixes from the 90s

>>17186244

>bro has one leg with another prosthetic
>wishes he had none so he could have a wheelchair

>my wheelchair makes me less tired and has almost twice the available mobility

remind me again why legs are better than paralysis?

>>17182229
>There are very very few f-bodies, vettes, or anything else with an ls with modifications that add power.


ls1 fbody owner here


i get strange looks when it tell them my car is stock with wheels

most fbodies are bought to be modified. a good percentage of corvettes are too

i just raced some 20 year old in a modded C6 with over 550 whp like last week

>>17186262
>N/A 2JZ with header/intake
>220hp and 18 mpg

>N/A LS1 with intake/exhaust
>345hp and 20 mpg

both are in similar weight vehicles both are RWD

the LS1 is better period


the 3.0l straight six can simply not compete with a 5.7l V8

>>17186309
The N/A 2JZ is trash, it's far from the best 6cyl
BMWs S54B32HP got 360hp from a 3.2 liter, stock and naturally aspirated
TVRs 4.0 liter i6 N/A got 405 horsepower

I own an i6 and a v8. Both rwd. The v8 is a much faster car....

>>17186673
this doesnt mean anything you fucking moron

>>17186638
>360hp
>405hp
>impressive

This is America Pal. Minivans are 300hp and pickup trucks are 420hp+. Those numbers aren't impressive compared to whats possible with an American V8, A garage and a cube of beer and a couple weekends.

>>17188471
The other anon was talking about NA engines and mpg's.
You know that BMW 6cyls hold boost quite well.
Not so sure on TVR 6cyls

>>17188521
also the Porsches flat six 4.0 that produced 500 hp naturally aspirated
not an inline 6 but still

>>17188521
Minivans and most pickup trucks are NA too, They also get respectable mpg's for their displacement.

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>2017
>getting cucked out of two cylinders

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>>17188596
>Forgetting the other 4

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>>17188613
>Not getting 5k horsepower

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>>17188620
>Not having 24 valves

>>17188620
Is that 2 fucking v8s welded together?

>>17188687
Probably

>>17181447
>4.2L
>470hp
kek """"MURICA"""" enginering

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>>17188635
>>17188620
>Less than 6400 hp

It's like you don't even want to move freight.

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>i6 thread
>no hillside hemi
the fuck /o/?

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>>17188747
Psssh anything less than 100,000 horsepower is childsplay
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4rtsil%C3%A4-Sulzer_RTA96-C

>>17188763
Only a stupid asshole puts the intake runners right next to the exhaust headers

No. Good luck tuning it to tow or haul payloads and have good performance. There is no replacement for displacement, and you faggots should know this by now.

>>17188770
>this is a modern engine
sweet jesus

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>>17189259

>>17189334
how come always the same 5-6 pictures posted? update your content hombre

>>17189334
sup s/o/viet. did you get b& again?

>>17181441

TFW drive the BMW E46 330 xi with a straight 6.

TFW no cars can ever compare

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>>17189347
On my phone
>>17189370
What is getting banned?

>>17189392
>On my phone
gee what a surprise

>>17189404
Why?

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>>17189411
>

>>17189430
She is the future queen of hell, fire doesn't hurt her

>>17189440
>she
it is a 2d drawing that can never love you or talk to you or touch you. What a sad and meaningless life you must have to idiolize drawings and shitpost on a mongolian horse breeding forum.

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>>17189449
Wrong, now tell us about thqt 3D girl that actually doesn't love you

>>17188763
Is that related to the Aussie "Hemi" six that's not even remotely Hemi?

>>17189455
Ur mum love me long time
Gay boy

>>17189455
>actually doesn't love you
Nice projection. I can touch and feel my GF. I can have a real conversation with her as well. Can you do the same with your waifu? Can you have a conversation with it? I'll answer this for you: no. you can only stroke your dick to pictures of it because it doesn't exist.

>>17188770
I've worked around engines about half this size, and I have to say it's a fucking marvel. Being able to physically fit inside of a cylinder as a 6'3" man is more than enough to make you appreciate the absolute gargantuan size of these things. Otherworldly.

>>17189486
do you know what makes a Hemi a Hemi?

>>17189500
Reality is what you perceive it be anon
Is your girlfriend truly any more real than the reality anon creates in his mind? Not necessarily

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MOVE ASIDE PLEBIANS

BEHOLD: god's gift to the automotive kingdom
)
The V12

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>>17189562
>V-(anything)

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>>17189500
>>17189496
>Falling for the 3d meme

>>17189522
Everything the Aussie six lacks. Hell, 70s and 80s BMW engines were more hemispheric than those fucking Chryslers.

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Oh well hello there PEASANTS
Didn't see you there with my SUPERIOR ENGINE

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>>17181495
>never owned a 1JZ

>>17181763
If Ford had a 6.2l of displacement equivalent, it would shit power out like Indian food

>>17188635
>24 valves

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>>17181441
Not as long as the Flat 12 exists.

If only the BMW K1600's 1.65L i6 was available as a crate engine. I'd love to see that tiny engine thrown into everything as a swap

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Move over losers
And welcome your savior

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>>17181447
*blocks your path*

GM can't compete

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weak ass shit niggas

>>17181968
You should write to Porsche and let them know that they are doing it wrong. I'm sure they would be eager to hear from an anon from 4chins.

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Legit no one posted this yet?
800rwhp on stock bottom end, and the record is somewhere around the 10xx mark
The dude who has a drag car still uses the stock heads.
This oil pump is godlike
>rb26
It is not extremely rev. happy but ey, 8grand still works.

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>>17181441
Only for industrial/large displacement engines

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>>17182262
>puts out horses like the jews put out lies

Kek

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>>17181441
"Nothing sweeter than a 4 litre. Nothing more fun than a 4.1"