Classic Car General /ccg/

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Finally got around to cleaning up my engine a bit. Here's about a year's difference.

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>>17159270
your engine is gay.

MCDONALDS FOREVER.

I thought i was done for, i thought the car behind me was a cop because i was being loud at 2 in the morning etc. so i booked it.
All i can say is Corvairs smash the backroads like they own them.

>>17159270
>that retarded triangular metal strainer as air cleaner again
This fucking meme needs to stop

>>17159421
>>17161281
I had originally planned on using a Ford Motorsport air cleaner that went with the valve covers, but it wouldn't fit with the HEI distributor. I'm fairly happy with the shitty meme air cleaner.

>>17160547
A second gen, right?

>>17159270
what are those "T" looking things that are sticking out from the valve cover?

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>tfw will never own an AMC Eagle SX/4
probably the only crossover i will ever like

>>17160547
M8 corvairs are some of the best handling cars out there. I love them, I'll post a picture of the collection when I get home.
I hope you will appreciate the awesomeness of turbo corvairs.
Post pics of Nader's nightmare for me.

>>17161523
Valve cover wingnut bolts. You can get them on summit or at the auto parts store for pretty cheap.

Today is the day that I fail yet again to get the ferd started

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>>17159240
Sup guys

>>17162100
did you put a model a on a 4x4 frame?

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>>17162103
Bronco Is all I know. I'd have to ask more details from my old man.

>>17162106
literally y tho

>>17162109
Literally y not

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>>17162110
can't argue with you there.

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>>17161350
First
>>17161836
Sadly no turbo

>>17162119
first gen looks better than second gen. Just keep an extra fan belt when you eventually throw the current one.

>>17162121
Fuck that i've got like 3 belts in there.

>>17162119
>>17162121
Wasn't the first gen the "UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED" one?

So building this car has made me broke what do

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I think this is the end of my poor 403. I got stuck in bad traffic that was slow moving and I thought I could make it to an exit. The temp guage kept rising, I kept smelling a hint of tranny fluid and woosh smoke everywhere. I've got an aftermarket tranny cooler and the lines are spliced but I can't figure out where the line broke. Also now the oil pressure is all over the place but is at 40 while at highway speeds and there are small bit of shiny stuff on the dipstick.

>>17162473
They tested a 62 and janked up the results to make gm look bad and get Nader some publicity. In 72 the new highway safety administration decided to test it again and found that it was safer than any other similarly designed car of the time.
Tl;dr Nader btfo

>>17162660
400 swap time?

>>17162684
That or an olds big block. I honestly don't have the funds at the moment and it's my daily driver so It's probably gonna get an oil change and babied until the motor completely dies.

>>17162699
also I bit curious how much it would cost to rebuild one. Plus I'd love to learn how to rebuild an engine anyway.

>>17162648
Aquire a better paying job

>>17162724
400 Pontiacs are cheap in Michigan because people have them lying around everywhere.
My suggestion is to go to the mitt and pick yourself up a 400 or a 455

>>17162731
How will I get there with no car

>>17162473
>Wasn't the first gen the "UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED" one?
Yes, Hagerty tried to flip one and failed so Ralph Nader must have been smoking PCP or something.
I've almost had mine spin out on me once but it's never been to the point where i felt like it would lose control, as long as you can spin the wheel fast enough.

>>17162660
Block's fine, it might have ate a bearing.
i reckon every classic car engine has overheated at least once in its life.

As for the line, blow pressurized air through the cooler and it may start spitting at the break,

>>17161662
it was ahead of it's time

>>17162944
Thanks, I'll try it. but I'm pretty sure it was a loose hose clamp because after I got it home it hasn't leaked since after I tightened it. I also added a little more oil to it and the pressure has improved some. plus I haven't been seeing any more metal flakes on the dipstick since I drove it home. But there is a fairly loud tick coming from the passenger side and I can't tell if it's lifter or exhaust but for sure I have a slight header leak but it's never been this loud at such a low rpm.

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So I got the pillar spotlight for my international, and the rear scene lights. I'm going to wire the scene lights to the toggle switch for my reverse lights, and the spotlight will go on the driver's side pillar.

I thought about mounting the scene lights to the cab, but I'd hate to drill it, so I'm thinking a headache rack is in order.

>>17162080
did you do what I and others suggested and run the starter directly to the battery for a second or two?

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i want to get a cheap,comfy and good looking old car,i love the 90s so something from that period would be nice,any recommendations?
ALSO,i have a bike,riding it is a lot of fun,but i dont see cars having a lot of fun,its seems like a hassle to drive a car,especially with shit traffic,i want to ride a car to be comfy with some nice music and shit,is riding a car any fun in a day to day basis?

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>>17162660
>>17162944
Same thing happened to my 390, sounds exactly like one of your main bearings gave up. Your oil pressure being all over the place is a good indicator of that.

That being said I got a good 5,000 extra miles out of my 390 before a connecting rod bearing decided to spin. If you don't want to pull the engine immediately then run thicker oil to help take up the clearances.

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>>17163738
bump? you fucking faggots

>>17163738
>>17163859
Why 90's?
The appeal of classic cars for some of us is specifically from the 60's to the 80's. These cars are a visceral experience, when you put your foot down you can feel the car shake from the engine, you can hear exactly how it's running and it's as if the car is responding to you directly. I know that sounds kind of cringey but that's what's in it for me instead of all these "features" to hide the fact that a modern car has an engine. I don't think 90's cars would do that for me.

Regardless if i had to choose something i'd get a first gen DSM Talon with the 2 liter turbo.
Good luck finding one that isn't rice raped though.

>>17163738

I don't where you're from but i got an audi 100/5000 and it is..well stuff is broken but it was cheap. paid a 1000 eur for it and god its comfy.

>>17163903
stupid question ahead

arent some of the early 90s cars classic now.


hell where i live im allowed to register my 1990 as a classic vehicle

>>17163913
>arent some of the early 90s cars classic now.
Yeah legally 92's and older are classics in most states.
I know more than one person who uses those plates just to get out of yearly inspections/emissions

>>17163739
Update, A rocker was a bit loose. I did exactly that and the pressure is pretty stable now even when warm and the ticking has gone away. Hopefully I'll get some more funds before she dies because this sounds like a temporary fix. At any rate, does anyone have any info on easy engine swaps for a 403 trans am?

>>17163924
My E30 has classic auto plates.

Or, plate. They only sent me one plate for some reason. Even though it's got a front plate bracket. Not gonna question it until I get pulled over.
>but officer, they only sent me one plate

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>>17162106
Holy shit, it's so awful, I love it

MY FUCKING FORD RUNS

thank you based god.

>>17163692
Turns out it was the ground bolt was rusted, the ground cable was fucked and the mating surface on the block was also rusted to fuck

>>17160547
Would you reccommend one? There are tons in my area relatively cheap

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>tfw dreams at night of blasting Eurobeat down the parkway making choo choo noises
DISCO DANCE IS OUR STORY
PEOPLE GET TOGETHER TO HAVE FUN

>>17164892
I dream of doing burnouts and blasting migos.

It's an abstract feel

>>17164581
You only need one on a classic car. Same situation down here in Texas.

But if you buy plates from the same year as your car, you can have them registered for your car.

>>17164884
A 64 Spyder if you can find one.

>>17164884
give me your area craigslist and i'll check, anything over 4k is a ripoff fyi

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echhh

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>>17164903
>niggershit

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A few pics I took, sry for dirty garage

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>>17165288

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>>17165296
Turbo 64 best 64

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>>17165309
My Cutless and my brothers new project 73 formula

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>>17165321
MFW breaks go bad

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>>17165347
The Spyder with the 65

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>>17165359
The cortruck, Rampside

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>>17165372
70 gto, yet to be started

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>>17165386
65 GTO, in progress

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>>17165393
78 trans am still in progress with a another complete 70 gto wrapped up.
Couldn't take a picture of the 71 422 because it's still in storage.

Well that's my promised dump of relevant cars.
Lots of corvair and Pontiac love <3 hope you guys like the cars. I will post pics of the various projects as they get closer to completion.
Until then I'll keep shilling corvairs and my trans am video.

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>>17159406
Which distributor are y'all running

>>17164859
That's what people have been telling you, you colossal faggot

>>17166054
I've known it was a bad ground for two weeks you poofta. I'm just glad the fix worked.

>>17164859
KIT KAT FOR FUCK SAKES, JUST FUCK

I'M THE GUY WHO TOLD YOU WEEKS AGO TO HOOK IT DIRECTLY TO THE BATTERY AND THEN TO CHECK UR GOD DAMN GROUND

U FUCKIN WANKER

>>17166151
I figured out the same thing by hoping power directly to a functioning starter and having nothing happen.

You're right though senpai

>>17163345
Don't tighten hose clamps too much. You'll cut into the hose.

>>17165500
ebay HEI special.

>>17167235
>HEI
>not points master race

>>17167351
There's literally no reason for me not to go hei if I'm holding a motor

>>17167513
Building a motor

>>17167544
Nigga it took you months to figure out why your truck didn't start and that was WITH people spoon feeding you. The idea that you'll ever build a motor that even runs is laughable

>>17167917
I'm better with engines and carbs than I am with electrical. I also only worked on my truck once every two weeks because gainful employment killed all motivation.

>>17167513
How about that you're too retarded to build a jigsaw puzzle, let alone an engine?

>>17167958
Your reaching there. I recommend a more subtle approach like, "what makes you think you can build a motor when you couldn't even handle a crush washer."

Your approach is just a blatant lack of effort

>>17167967
The only blatant lack of effort is your pitiful attempts at diagnosing a basic bitch electrical issue.

>>17167976
I know nothing of electricity

Saw my engine today. It's pretty and nearly ready, car could be back on the road by Friday
t. Massive Dolomite build man

>>17167984
Durr, my battery isn't connected. A multimeter would tell anyone who wasn't a burnt out druggie this in less than 30 seconds. Neck yourself.

>>17168041
The battery was connected ya dingus, the ground cable by the block that is covered by an alternator was almost as fukt as your mum

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>>17162660
Hi :) t/a kun with a 403 boat anchor reporting for duty

>>17168209
Man that cockpit is sweet.

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>>17168219
Thanks fa m

>>17162119
Man, I got a turbo and and 3 speed trans sitting in my moms shed. She told me to make a project out of doing something with it this summer. I have no fucking room though.

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beep beep

>>17168106
>battery connected
>ground wasn't really connected
What did he mean by this?

>>17168411
The battery was connected. The circuit was not fully functional.

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Just approved the artwork so I can get my door graphics for my 89 Caprice 9C1. (Pic semi related, not my car)

>>17168475
>not having a ground bus

You know nothing about cars.

>>17168598
Well considering I've gotten this thing running from dead three times, I know a thing or two about this truck :^)

>>17168631
You or your mechanic. You're as bad as that faggot who posts his dad's shitty chevy.

>>17168698
I don't have a mechanic. The only institution who's worked on my car is big o tires when they put new tires on it and the dude I paid 150 dollars to put the heater core in.

>You're as bad as that faggot who posts his dad's shitty chevy

Underrated kek

BTW I think our shitposting and calling out his dad's car forced him to turn his trip off lmao

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>>17168266
I love the look of those vents but fuck if you blow a tranny line it'll spray fluid out of them and coat the whole side of your car. Found that out the hard way.

>>17164884
yes, 110hp motors will last forever, 140 motors will overheat or drop a valve, check for exhaust leaks regularly,

>>17168751
>says he doesn't have a mechanic, mentions guy he pays to change parts
>literally doesn't know what mechanic means
I didn't think you could get more retarded.

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>>17168751
>I don't have a mechanic
>except for this dude who installs parts for me

>>17171465
A "part" is not multiple parts
Going to shops for a something most people cannot do at home is not "having a mechanic"

Are you a mechanic?
Are you telling me you dismount, mount and then balance your own tires at home?
Have you taken a dash out to do a heater core?

Just got a job in PA working at a shoo specializing in classic cars. Mostly British like Jaguar, Triumph, MG, TVR, Austin Healey, ect. But there was some American stuff there as well like a Ford GT and a split window Corvette.

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Alright fuckers. I've made arrangements for my bodywork and paint prep to be done. All that's left is to pick a color. So far I'm thinking midnight blue, but I'm open to ideas. What do you lot think?

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>>17171601
I'd say Green.
Something dark like Highland green

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>>17171601
>>17171619
I like both green and blue, but would go with a lighter shade like this one.

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>>17171639
o

>>17168475
So the battery was not truly connected.

Anyone got any advice for cleaning chrome hubcaps?

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The engine of the Jeep I'm eternally working on. Heads back on, working on cutting the rest of the body bolts off (they're all rusted down to nothing) and trying to figure out what to do about the frame. The front is good as everything is coated in grease but the rear has some surface rust that needs to be taken care of. Either I just do those spots and paint, do the whole frame while I've got the body off anyway so it lasts another 60+ years, or leave it as-is (original, I-know-what-i-got style). I've decided to replace brake stuff on an as-needed basis instead of everything all at once.

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>>17171695
It depends on the definition of connected. The battery was physically connected, and the electrical current was to an extent as the radio and lights worked, but the circuit was really weak.

>>17171601
If I ever get around to doing it, I'll paint the Ford this color

>>17171807
Cleaning or restoring?

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>>17171807
I use mother's chrome polish/restore, and afterwards put a really good coat of wax, I like the mothers stuff because it isn't acidic or caustic like alot of the other ones

>>17172551
Just cleaning them, they're pretty dull

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Anon, have you taken your waifu out on a date in your carfu yet?

>>17175042
She doesn't wanna ride in it 'cause it has no seatbelts

>>17171601

Are you going to get that line down the side knocked off too. Ruins the car.
Go with blue board blue.

>>17165321
hnnnnng that pontiac

>>17168286
Tuck the bumpers, get new wheels, remove the spoiler, and remove the hoodscoop it will make the car look so much better.

>>17168751
man i want to like you but you do say way too much stupid shit

>>17176002
Yes, I'm shaving the belt trim.

>>17171601
I would go with an off white paint like a creme color.

>>17176169

Nice.

>>17168286

>>17176148
>Tuck the bumpers, get new wheels, r̶e̶m̶o̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶p̶o̶i̶l̶e̶r̶,̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶r̶e̶m̶o̶v̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶h̶o̶o̶d̶s̶c̶o̶o̶p̶ it will make the car look so much better.

This.

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>all these classic cars out driving around and having a good time while yours is still a project.

>>17176397
You are not the only one

I bet that half of all classics out there are projects.

The problem is... when you have time, you don't have money, when you have money you don't have time.

I have a 1968 firebird just waiting for a new floor and quarters

>>17176157
I wouldn't consider the dude I paid a small amount of money to do one thing for me, my mechanic. I've had the truck over 3 years and he's the only dude I've ever had do anything

>>17176429
Or you have no time or money

>>17176583
You have a pile of scrap in your garage or
driveway..

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>mfw trunk floor and rear frame rail rot
>mfw no Mig welder and don't even know how to weld

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>>17176397
>buy 6AN adapter fitting for pressure side of power steering box
>wait patiently for it to arrive
>get excited because I could have the car ready to move on the weekend
>its fucking 5/8 instead of 11/16
>mfw entire weekend spent sulking and full of rage after getting nothing done

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>>17176583
No I have a project, it's just a very expensive project. I didn't know the cost of parts where so much when I bought it

>>17176434
How much have you actually done to the truck?

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I've put a fair amount miles on the '35 this year.
I need to replace the packing in the shocks... they leak so bad.

>>17175155
lol wtf
I love ridin in my husbandos chevy II
who needs seatbelts
tell here its ok

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Worth buying, assuming no real problems?

>>17176927
WAY too much for an unoriginal notch

>>17159240
I already asked in QTDDTOT but I don't think they have much experiance with late 80's tbi systems so sorry if this is in the wrong place. anyway, I've got an 91 pontiac grand am lying around that I got to run on starting fluid but the fuel pump is shot. Whats the cheapest way to get fuel to a throttle body type fuel injection system? I'm not going to drive it on the street at all but I just want something to mess around with on the farm.

>>17176946
Why's that?

Tell me not to buy a 1929 Model A coupe guys

>>17176987
so hypothetically if I mounted a gas tank somewhere and re plumbed it used an electric fuel pump how much psi would I need for it to work?

>>17176998
47 psi

>>17176690
Rebuilt the entire braking system, replaced all belts, fixed like three oil leaks, rebuilt the carburetor twice, tuned the carb successfully the second time after years of not caring, now redid a lot of the starter wiring, lots of oil changes, replaced the starter 4 times (flex plate teeth are all fucked which chews through starter gears, going to fix when I swap the engine), changed and rewired and replaced the entire horn system, fixed the fucked turn signal wiring, installed and upgraded the entire stereo system (probably not done that great), new water pump, new thermostat and probably some more stuff I can't remember at the moment.

None of that is that difficult, but if I had paid a mechanic to do all that shit, of have paid like 4k dollars for a 3k truck.

>>17177342
>three oil leaks
What from not using crush washers?

>>17176963
Ah, Lincoln Land. I wind up dealing with them quite a bit.

>>17177385
Man, that's got some good rot on it

>>17177357
Lel

No one was from a failed oil level sensor and two were valve cover gaskets.

>>17177396
Good thing you ain't like me and you don't have to buy a new floor pan, man

>>17177433
Mine only has 42,000 or so miles on it, so I assume it was kept fairly well which is why it is still in good shape for a '47

>>17177385
Good for bolt-ons; not much else. They're very knowledgeable, though, and that helps.

>>17177467
>Not enough time on the streets.
I am to fix that as probably the youngest dude around with a bitchin' cruiser

>>17177509
My 83 year old grandfather doesn't really even remember them, and he modded cars all through the late 50's through the 70's. It's still gonna be one of the classiest damn rides cruisin' the block, that's for damn sure.

>>17177554
Thanks man

>>17177608
What '47 is it?

>>17176963
Damn Lincoln Land and Bakers auto are so expensive

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>>17159240
One step closers to finishing muh 540

>>17177857
Muh dick. Those ports are nasty

>>17177976
Thanks mang they flow 365 cfm

>>17178216
Bruh. What comp pistons are you going with and what's the desired power output.

Also I'm really tempted to buy a fitech tbi system. No idea if it's a good idea or not

>>17178246
just megasquirt.

>>17178249
In order to utilize an aftermarket ECU, I would need am existing fuel Injection setup.

The fitech system is plug and play and sits on top of the stock carb intake manifold.

>>17178246
I believe it's around 8:1 I would have to do all the math the pistons I got have -26cc dishes on them
I'm going the supercharged route with a 871 looking for around 1000hp
This engine originally started its life as a 427
Ehh I'm not really a fan of throllebody injections I get the whole ease of tuning but if I were to go efi I would just go multipoint

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>>17178358
Forgot pic

>>17178255
thats why you pull an efi manifold off a later car.
guaranteed they used that engine for 100 years. usdm always do that.
>head designed in 1930
>still in production

>>17178246
TBI has some of the same advantages and disadvantages as carbs:
>disadvantages
It still needs acceleration enrichment
If one cylinder runs rich/lean with a carb, it'll do the same with TBI
Electronic wizardry (BAD IDEA FOR YOU KITKAT)

>advantages
You get the same good atomization under steady load
No seasonal/altitude adjustment needed once it's set up
No/low vaporlock chance

>>17178358
That's mental. What's it going in?

>>17178385
It's a 302, not a flathead. Production of the Windsor started in 62 I believe. Read a book.

>>17178731
Lel. The nice thing about this tbi EFI systems is they are self ruining through a wideband that's included. You pretty much only need to run power after the solenoid, which is not hard to wire, and set up the fueling from the motor command center which utilizes the stock mechanical fuel pump. The initial tune is rich as fuck just so that it runs, but after that it gets to the desired afr through electronic wizardry.

Computers are a hell of a drug

>>17177653
Chevy Fleetline

WHY IS IT NEAR COCKING IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A DECENT CLASSIC CAR IN EASTERN EUROPE THAT ISN'T COMMIE SHIT REEEEEEE

Communism was a mistake

>>17179718
Dude, I have looked at some GREAT classics in former soviet countries for fairly affordable prices including a '59 T-bird and a FUCKING EDSEL. That said, it's mostly old Ladas and Volgas and stuff.

>>17179725
Well I did find both of these for about the price of a new small econobox so that's alright I guess. Though I have mostly been looking for a 1970's Datsun/Nissan in decent condition forever with no luck.

>>17179747
Probably gonna be harder to find, then, yeah. I mostly see great American classics. Beggars can't be choosers, though.

>>17179347
Nigga he's being hyperbolic. You need to read a book

>>17180297
Setting up a mpfi would be more work than a plug and play tbi setup that lets me use a cheap, good intake manifold that I already have.

>>17180413
Not him but i have my doubts that a cheap TBI setup will have the quality to be long lasting.
That remains to be seen though and at least it was cheap to begin with if it does fail.

Might I be right to think the misfiring of my 87 Volvo is due to the fuel pump?

I went out and looked at my 383 again, i might have told you guys that it was previously seized but the compression rings on the seized piston are still springy and the piston still rolls around the wrist pin. I think this cleared up some of my anxiety a little.

>>17180512
That's where I'm at. But for a full plug and play EFI kit for 1200, it's hard to go wrong. The fuel command center is the coolest part, as it means you can keep almost the whole stock fueling system

>>17178741
>Primary school
Get out euro cuck

>>17181102
Rude

how practical is dailying something like a continental.

assuming parking isn't an issue

I have a need
a need for gas guzzling landbarges with impractical size

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>>17181433
I daily drive pic related. There's no reason you can't.

>>17181444
what about reliabilitywise.

yeah yeah, old cars with old car problems. but some cars are obviously more reliable than others.

my 03 Grand Marquis is more reliable than most 2016 cars

>>17181452
>what about reliabilitywise.
Not much to go wrong unless it has emissions equipment, even then it doesn't mean the car is bricked if something wears out a bit.

>>17181433
old corvairs are great on gas mileage if your worried about that

>>17181087
Why the fuck do you even want EFI?

>>17181452
I've driven that car across the country and the only issue I've had in the years I've owned it was a short in the ignition circuit. Hot-wired it for a bit and drove like that until I made it the 500 miles I had left to go.

If you can work on the car, most issues can be fixed on the side of the road with a good tool kit.

Reliability is a lot better than people give a vehicle credit for; provided it's used occasionally. Granted, there's a touch of survivorship bias; but, most classics that are still up and running are the ones that were made well and maintained. You're less likely to have a surprise with a 40-year-old car than a 15-year-old one.

>>17181470
Why do retards lick windows and vote Hillary? Because they're retarded.

>>17181491
>Reliability is a lot better than people give a vehicle credit for; provided it's used occasionally.
I figure a lot of the "reliability" problems people have with classics is the points wore out and they have no clue how to re-adjust them.

>>17181470
Cold start and hot start and fuel economy. It's got 4.11s with no overdrive and any little bit helps. Also note consistent under the curve powerband

>>17181760
Cold starting engines burn rich regardless of fuel injection or not.

>>17181791
Not in 10 degrees Fahrenheit, you need to retune at that point

>>17181882
bro, fuel injection doesn't ignore physics, cold engine physcially need more gas because less gas will actually reach the combustion chamber. Fuel injection will just burn richer until the engine is hot enough that there is no danger to stalling out. It will also burn richer if it thinks the car is in danger of overheating. What you're after is not having to deal with choke fuckery and attempting to keep a cold engine running, which i understand.

>>17181908
He's retarded. You're wasting your time.

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>>17181433
It's not practical, but who gives a shit, they're cool as fuck and it could be the most fun you've ever had.

Pic related is a pizza delivery guy for Pizza Hut, his Continental probably consumes his entire paycheck, but he doesn't give a shit because he's showing up at parties with pizza in a god damn 70s Lincoln Continental.

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>>17161662
Not posting the best image.

Guy that lives in my town drives a cream, Eagle wagon. Fucking thing is the tits, although he does a lot of landscaping work with it.

Always give him a thumbs up and a wave when I see him. He does the same after he saw I drive an AMC as well. Feels good.jpg

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>>17182336
A few more Eagle related things. Because why not.

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>>17172974
Trans Am Kun, I am jelly of your brown Chicken, your awesome interior, and your 6.6.

Tell me the secrets of running a Pontiac motor in your nice brown T/A. How's the 6.6 run?

When the 350 here gives up the ghost, I want to find a 301 and put it in my 84 T/A Chicken.

>>17181470
Cause the Holley, FiTech, Edelbrock etc, EFI kits have proven gains in power and fuel economy.
>>17181433
Perfectly practical if you don't mind poor fuel economy and you have all the mechanical working properly

>>17182440
301's slow as dirt, try to find a 400 or 455 Pontiac. It will be much better and you will enjoy the car more.
t. other trans am shill that never posts his car due to it being in fucking boxes
If you want to learn a bit about trans ams I made a brief educational video about them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWyV1eJcQC8
t. youtube whore as well

>>17182810
>paying $1200 for 5hp/7tq

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tfw no 1970 Super bee

or even a Coronet to make a fake bee

>>17182907
This, fuel injection really only shows its benefits if it's MPI

>>17182907
fi tech is more fore fuel economy, one of the cars has one. I like my carbs better though.

>>17182907
You left out the part about getting 3-4 mpg more in town driving. That pays for itself over time if you drive a classic often

>>17182918
There's one a few blocks from my house. White with a green vinyl top and interior. Has the typical Mopar rot in the quarters and around the back windshield.

>>17183087
You can achieve that with a sixpack/tripower setup honestly.
If you think about it, with a light throttle you're just running around on a two barrel carb.
but that setup is much more costly than an EZ efi

>>17183101
tfw mopars could rust in space

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>>17182440
Thanks very much :)

desu the 403 olds in my car is terrible (kinda cause the cukifornian emissions on it when it was purchased in 79, im going to dump a 350 + 6 speed in it this year


heres a shitty webm i made just 4 u

>>17183113
I know that feel all too well, my Challenger is in bad shape.

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Man, my hubcaps really need some lovin'

>>17183180
I'm pretty sure you can buy stuff made for polishing chrome and stainless steel.

>>17183196
Yeah, I've heard some about it. Too bad they're pretty well scuffed.

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>>17183118
Das it mane. I'll never get tired of brushed aluminum on dashboards.

>>17182869
Not keen on a big block Pontiac motor. Just want something reasonable. FWIW, the car originally had the "High-Output" 305 as it's base motor. Wanted to put a 301 into it because it's what the engineers originally wanted at Pontiac before big business killed separate, divisional motors.

I hate to use the term special snowflake, but I've been pretty keen on that setup for a good while.

I'll watch your video though, anon-kun. I like informative stuff.

>>17183087
kkk said he has a 4.11 rear gear. He needs to change that before worrying about economy

>>17183310
I've had a few 301 pontiacs, they are not good engines, as much as I shill for pontiac I will admit that fact. Spare yourself the pain and get an ls or a 400

>>17183342
What do you expect from a moron?

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>>17183310
put an lt1 in it from a 93 trans am if you can, cheapest bang for your buck engine swap.

>>17183342
I think at one time he said he wanted to change it to something lower, can't remember though

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>>17183350
>>17183387

Eh, if I decide not to go that route, I'll probably get a new harness and re-wire the thing to accept another CCC 305 setup.

I like to live life in the coasting lane. Might not be the most exciting, but it's life.

>>17183445
The problem with the 301 is that they have an extremely short life. The turbo option only had 6lbs of boost (carbed turbos not even once) and when put under heavy load the engines self destructed ( it pinged beforehand so you knew when you were done)
Lt1 has great gas mileage and is very reliable and fast, they are also cheap. It has the best of all worlds and if you dont want to do a stock engine swap there is no reason not to put one in.
Unless you want to be cool and drop in a W72

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>>17183875
I like the later ones with the fugly bumper car bumpers

>>17183342
>>17183429
To spend the money on a good setup for my Dana 60, I could do a full suspension rebuild and a decent 9 inch that uses less power, and is lighter.

Easier and more preferable though would be a gear vendors unit but those are worth as much as the Ford itself.


>>17183355
If I only wanted better economy, I'd go both. As is right now, if I only swapped to EFI and got 3mpg better it would be a 500 savings in fuel a year based on my current driving habits.

Furthermore, usability and headaches would be greatly reduced.

>>17184412
You aren't going to get that much better power from EFI. Especially in the power range you're talking about building

>>17184640
Until you go direct injection, peak horsepower doesn't really improve much. What does improve is the area under the curve. Driveability is also improved and things like hot start in the middle of summer are much easier.

Also most of these setups have provisions for the sauce :^)

>>17184649
Once again though you're paying 1000+ for marginal increases

>>17171639
I love this shade of green, because it screams 70s.

>>17184649
>hot start issues

I never understood this, is it really that much of a problem? Is it really that hard to hit the gas when you're cranking?

>>17184745
I'm two years the gas savings alone would pay for itself. So not really.

>>17185101
My truck doesn't have a shroud for the radiator, so under the hood the heat gets absolutely massive in the summer if you stop moving. Vapor lock can occur, fuel boiling, and even the carburetor gets to the point where you can't touch it because it's an i6 that has the intake manifold stacked on the exhaust.

EFI has the abity to compensate for that.

>>17185440
That's assuming it works out of the box and has no issues, faggot. I bet you think eBay turbos work.

Only fags care about mpg on classics.

Better gearing would get better results that are guaranteed. You are retarded.

>>17185673
So much butthurt over something that effects you in zero ways what so ever. Not like your spending your money on his engine. Maybe you should grow up, kid

>tfw still too broke to take engine to the machine shop

asldkfjal;skjfal;

>>17185673
>That's assuming it works out of the box
What part of plug and play don't you understand?

And if I only cared about mpg, I wouldn't be driving a 60s pickup. If you add all the small benefits up, it is pretty nice.

I love carburetors, but you have to be a Luddite not to understand the benefits of efi

>>17185727
m8 part of the appeal of classics is ludditeness.
Anyway, my larger point is it seems the build you've got going on is spiraling out of control in terms of cost. At first you wanted to pull a 302 from an explorer and basically drop it in your truck and do the disc brake conversion. Now you want to fully rebuild the engine and slap 1000+ in EFI on the top.
How long have the parts for the front end been sitting m8? You're putting the cart way before the horse. You're worrying about how you'll aspirate a engine you don't even own yet

>>17185880
>spiraling out of control in terms of cost.
>Engine from a junkyard: $2-300
>Rebuild kit: $300 tops
>EFI: $1300
That's still less than $2,000. I wouldn't quite call that spiraling out of control.

>Now you want to fully rebuild the engine
Good. That's what he should be doing anyways. We had this discussion about 2 months ago, with everyone yelling at him that he should rebuild it.
Y'know, that way he's starting with a good, tight engine instead of a sloppy tired oil burning wreck.

>>17185880
Most of this is theoretical, and if I swap to an efi system it would be down the road.

I've got the suspension stuff, is sitting in a storage unit but it's lower on my priority list than building the motor. As for the engine, I just picked up a motor stand and I'm getting the 302 hopefully next paycheck.

The thing about my Ford is I'll probably never get rid of it, and with that mindset I don't mind waiting a year or so to change things.

Besides, EFI is a long term money saver, and helps with power delivery overall. The beauty of a plug and play unit is it's not engine specific, and I can put it on any engine I swap into this truck

>>17186009
He'd need machine work more than like.

>>17186015
Why are you waiting on doing the suspension?

Because I'm retarded and I want to make horsepower first. Redoing the front suspension really is just upgrading to disks and new shocks and bushings but I wouldn't be able to drive the truck for however long that would take to do. The engine swap will be relatively quicker as I'll build the engine, then pay some dude to put it in in a few days.

>>17185727
Converting to EFI is NEVER a plug and play matter with an ebay setup. You'll have to fabricate sensor mounts and so other miscellaneous sundries. Anticipate lots of headaches.

>>17186015
If it's theoretical, why BUY it? I don't get your argument of "money saver" because it WILL add complications. You're also probably spending more on a storage locker than you'll save with EGO.

It makes no sense to try to argue fuel savings as a reason to do it. If it were "because I want to," that'd be fine, but that makes no sense.

>>17186179
>I don't get your argument of "money saver" because it WILL add complications.
This bro, an Autolite 4100 will be far cheaper.
If only you could learn how to tune a choke.
Yes you can immediately drive off in your truck after starting it on a winters morning if your choke is tuned.

>>17186151
m8 you weren't able to drive your truck the entire time it wouldn't start. You could have swapped it the same time you fixed everything else

>>17186179
Mpg is a nice side effect, but my biggest thing is driveability and power delivery. I've lived with a carb for the last 3 years, it's not terrible, but it's not perfect.

There's a benefit to either system, but for me I strongly dislike wrenching on vehicles, and I only do it because I'm too stingy to pay someone for most shit. If I can have a system that reduces running headaches, I'm all in.

Plus fitech is not an eBay company, they're blowing up in the hot riding works. Also msd or Holley just takes they're own self learning EFI systems for less than a grand. That's bordering on a decent brand new carburetor pricing at that point.

>>17186211
This is true, but I live in an apartment complex and to work on the starting system, I can do while parked. I can't really do a front end rebuild there. An engine I can build in my storage unit, buy it's not big enough for a 65 Ford

>>17186245
>Mpg is a nice side effect, but my biggest thing is driveability and power delivery. I've lived with a carb for the last 3 years, it's not terrible, but it's not perfect.
considering your lack of knowledge on pretty much every subject i'll hazard a guess that your carb was out of tune and you didn't realize it.
from a driveability standpoint a carb feels no different to fuel injection when it's running right.

>>17186245
I've been using carbs for decades the only time they don't start immediately is when it's been days; takes a few cranks, or when there's a fuel pump or adjustment issue.

If you hate wrenching, WHY do you own a classic? I don't know what to make of that...

Have you even priced a carburetor? You can get a rebuildable core for less than $100.00 and a new Edelbrock for under $350.00

>>17186318
No I've rejetted it for altitude and tuned the idle and whatnot. Maybe my accelerator pump could be better, but when the carb is cold it needs to be warmed up. On the 100 degree days we have here, if you stop driving and try to turn it on again the fuel has vapor locked.

Pretty much all you've tried to convince the world in this thread is that I'm retarded, because I want things you don't and that my personal preferences trigger something inside of you my dude.

>>17186386
http://m.ebay.com/itm/1965-FORD-4100-4BBL-CARBURETOR-600CFM-WITH-AUTO-CHOKE-TAG-C5AF-F-/162431971343?nav=SEARCH

Checks out.

>>17186390
>No I've rejetted it for altitude and tuned the idle and whatnot.
Just because you tinker with it doesn't mean what you did was correct. Not saying you're wrong but without a wideband O2 you won't really know for sure.

>Maybe my accelerator pump could be better, but when the carb is cold it needs to be warmed up.
This is indicative of your choke not being correct.
When it is set right you can literally turn on your car and drive off like it didn't even care, not that it's good for the car.

>On the 100 degree days we have here, if you stop driving and try to turn it on again the fuel has vapor locked.

You're talking like this doesn't happen to fuel injected engines too. The problem is in the fuel lines, not the carburetor/injectors.

>Pretty much all you've tried to convince the world in this thread is that I'm retarded
Nobody needs convincing when you do a pretty good job of proving it yourself.
I don't care if you go fuel injection or not but you keep spouting half-truths about carburetors and it's blatant to anyone that has spent 20 minutes reading a book about them.
Tell me, did you even bother to get a gas tank to work with fuel injection?

>>17186471
No, you don't need a new fuel system with the fitech command center. Read a book

https://m.summitracing.com/parts/fif-40003

>>17186523
>No, you don't need a new fuel system with the fitech command center.
kkk...That's a new fuel system you fucking mong.

>>17181444
Hey drac, I saw an Imperial for sale near me. I wanna go check it out, and if it's good enough, I'll buy it. That said, what are things I need to look out for? For reference I live in NY so obviously rust & rot is huge, but what else specifically about the Imperials? Thanks

>>17186537
You can literally run it off the stock fuel pump, you don't need a return line a new pickup or anything else, you just run power to it and plumb the mechanical pump to it

>>17186543
>You can literally run it off the stock fuel pump,
Obviously, that hardware is to convert your tank to an in-tank pump so why would you bother with having two fuel pumps?

>>17186564
It isn't, maybe you should try reading

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>>17186594
>Obviously, that hardware is to convert your tank to an in-tank pump
It's not an in tank fuel pump. Try reading

>>17186574
So then it's a completely useless piece of hardware?

>>17186600
m8 it's a sump tank with a pump. The conventional pump feeds the sump. It's a new fuel system

>>17186604
No, it pressurizes the fuel coming from your average classic vehicles high volume, low pressure fuel pump.

Basically it's a secondary inline fuel tank that doesn't require a return or change to the stock fueling system up to itself. Pretty neat for converting to efi

>>17186674
You're buying this, i presume for the primary purpose of eliminating your so called vapor lock.
So you can spend almost $350 or just route your lines on the fenders away from the source of heat and not waste $350.
No you don't have an excuse when electric fuel pumps and fuel pressure regulators combined are under $100.
This might not even solve your problem even, Jay Leno's Galaxy would stall out from the heat, I've never heard you claim that's happened to you so i don't think you actually have vapor lock.

It's funny how your $700 fuel injection suddenly went over a grand.

ported four barrel works for me

>>17186541
Depends on the year. Do you have any additional information? Overall, they're great cars, but trim pieces are almost impossible to find.

>>17186692
From the get go, I've claimed that spending 1300 was what I'd do.

Peak hp will probably be close to the same with either, all either system has are 4 holes and gas hoes through them. The EFI with a wideband can self tune to a desired afr, which allows it to get the correct ratio in part throttle situations. That's what I mean by "under the curve" and improved driveability, you'll be making more power in these situations compared to a carburetor.

Furthermore, I've already got a carburetor I'm going to be putting on my Ford when I buy the motor. It's an Edelbrock 1405

>>17186802
>which allows it to get the correct ratio in part throttle situations. That's what I mean by "under the curve"
And you can do this with a carburetor, stop claiming otherwise.

>>17186844
You can, but not as accurately. Enough to work, but not the best possible one.

>>17186859
Accuracy depends on your skill and patience alone. Stoichiometric is possible with enough time.
I question your reasoning for polishing a 5.slow when you;ve admitted yourself you're planning on swapping multiple engine into your truck, so what even is the point to all this bullshit?

>>17186731
no additional info yet; I only saw it in passing but from afar it looked good. I'm gonna stop at it and look closer tho. If this general dies I'll update you in the next one.

>>17186869
Because they're modular. If I swapped to a 351w based build down the road I could retrofit the carb back on and sell the motor as a "built motor I know what I got."

Then I can take the tbi unit and put it on the next motor. That's my vision

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>>17187241
m8 you're thinking way ahead of yourself. You're making choices based on selling a motor you haven't even bought yet so you can build another motor to build after building the motor that you haven't even bought

>>17187611
You're point? I know what I want out of this truck after 3 years with it, I just can't have the end goal at the moment.

A 351 build would be years down the road as well

>>17187633
Every half step you take in the right direction is a waste of money and time. Building the 302 when you really want a 351 is a waste of time. Don't spend the money on FiTech now when you can wait. I guarantee you there will be better EFI units 3 years from now and the ones currently on the market will be available for less money new or used.

>>17187690
I'm not buying an fitech now, I might in a year or so. I know I can do a V8 now, and it doesn't blow up I can sell it for 1400 or so. I just am completely done with the 300 right now and the 302 is the easiest way to make more than 300 horsepower. I figure that will be fun for a little while

The end goal is to have a 500hp muscle truck with aluminum years, a 3 link and cvpi suspension.

>>17187736
If you want a muscle truck you might want a better starting point than a longbed 3/4 ton

>>17187803
It just kind of happened. I love it anyway

>>17187831b
m8 it's dumb. It would be like building a monster 455 olds and putting it in 98 instead of an 88 or cutlass

>>17187850
Your trying to come at this from the position of a gtr vs Corvette fanboy. I don't really care about how it compares to other vehicles, if I did is be turboing an LS swapped Fox body

>>17187862
Do you actually expect me to believe for one moment you don't care how your truck compares to other cars?Your whole self image is based on how other people perceive you. It's so painfully obvious. You spend less time working on your truck then you do attention whoring on /o/. You absolutely do care about how your vehicle compares. Don't delude yourself into thinking you don't. Because I guarantee when you see some other guy's car getting more attention at a car show than yours. You'll feel bad and you'll start from fucking scratch and you'll blog post about it on /o/ and all the newfags will know you're the legendary idiot Kit Kat who couldn't take advice and wasted thousands of dollars and years of his life just so he could get attention from strangers. Good luck on your build though.

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>arguing on my comfy board
S-stop plz

>>17187915
Dude if I gave a shit about how my vehicles compared to other vehicles, I would have bought an r6 instead of an fz6 and I wouldn't be driving a truck that runs 22.9 seconds in the quarter mile.

One day you might understand getting satisfaction from operating, and being pissed at your own vehicles.

If I worried so much about what others did in life, I'd have a Twitter and a Instagram and I'd post on Facebook daily but those never appealed to me.

>>17187943
m8 never once did I mention speed. You care about how much attention you get. Why did you post about your skis in a classic car general? Why did you post in multiple threads trying to get heartbreaker to notice you and your ebin new torque wrench. You literally have posted photos of people taking pictures of your truck. And you never fail to try to make every conversation about yourself

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>>17188065
Because I'm human. Shocker.

I'm more amazed that at this point your this upset about shit like this, maybe you need to realign your priorities, this is 4 Chan, it might be an outlet but it's not a way of life.

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>>17188101
Of course he is upset. You're literally the antithesis of what 4chan is supposed to be. Everyone's supposed to be anonymous. There's not supposed to be attention whores like you. Yet here you are telling others they don't belong. You my friend are the odd man out. He's not a lot either

>>17188211
I'm not saying he doesn't belong, I'm saying don't put as much weight into a Vietnamese underwater basket weaving forum as he appears to be.

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Why do mommy and daddy have to fight?

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>>17188303
Autism, on both sides

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>>17188327

Makes sense

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Got back on the project today, re-familiarized myself with the car, scraped and cleaned a bit, pulled out some emissions crap and the defroster hardware in the trunk to get at the wiring, and removed the steering column to work on it

>>17186731
Hey bud so I went to go look at it and it's a '66. From the outside I noticed the paint is peeling (worst sports were around the vinyl top/trunk lid), and that there is a rot hole where the hood meets the quarter panel. Following the bottom of the car I did notice surface rust, but nothing too severe like the rot hole up top. I couldn't get completely underneath it, but the frame appeared to be ok (no major rust/rot). Looking through the windows it looked respectable - interior is worn but not destroyed. The for sale sign is asking 6500 or best offer.

Your thoughts?

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>>17188416

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>>17188493
And the rust holes from the death foam.

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>last week
>order fitting to use old power steering pump line with new metric pump
>metric male end with the 45 degree flare female
>backordered for a month
>fuck that I don't have time
>buy $30 worth of fittings to convert everything to 6AN
>backordered fitting came today

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So here's a picture of where I'm going to work starting Monday. It's pretty much the dream job.

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Only have a few weeks left with her, going to miss this thing. It was with me for some of the roughest, and best times in my life so far and it's sad to see her go. Good think I know i'm selling her to a guy that will love her as much as I do.

>>17188972
Lucky bastard you.
I tried to get a job at a shop in my town that dealt mostly with classic and vintage cars, but it's basically a 2 man shop and they had no need for me

>>17189061
I will wholly admit I'm a luck bastard. I've been trying for 5 years to get back into this kind of work. Finally succeeded at a British/foreign car restoration shop in PA. Best thing is, it's an expanding business. The shop is currently 7500 sq ft split between shop and storage, the owner just bought a building that's 14,000 sq ft to move the business to.

>>17188972
>Corvettes and MGs
Nice

>>17189176
Don't forget about the Jaguar and Morgan that are visible. There's also a TVR and a couple of Austin-Healey 3000s.

>>17189216
3000 is sweet. Big Healey's are fucking cool

>>17165021
I'm in Phoenix and I see them on there occasionally. Went to a junkyard today in Casa Grande and they had clapped-out stacks of them

>>17189571
https://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/6118083925.html
This was the nicest car for the most resonable price I could find, 64's are the best early gen corvairs due to having a better suspension, 62's have the aesthetic whiskers though. after 64 the second gen had much better suspension.
All corvairs are great, just avoid the 69 because its less great.

>>17189603
forgot to add, there are a few complete rip offs in your area, NEVER BUY A WRECKED ONE, they are not worth a dime, if you ever find a original spyder turbo pick it up, the turbo is worth more than the car. The only reason this car is worth more than 4k is because of how good of shape its in, normally 2k is the price range with 4k being the max

http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/pages.cgi
These guys are the best call them if you ever run into problems.

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>>17188467
1966 is the best year; 440 V8, least issues. The frames are indestructible, but body panels are scarce.

It's not an unreasonable price, either, but please post pictures so I can assess.

By comparison, my '66 is roughly a $6,500.00 car.

>>17189651
God damn that thing looks good in profile. How's wind noise at speed? My truck is retarded loud

>>17189728
Not terrible; it would be great if I replaced the vent window rubber.

While I'm not one to shill for a car, the 1966 Imperial is one of the finest cars I've ever owned. There is vey little plastic and the few bits aren't a detractor. The speedometer is unique, yet easy to read. The car feels distinctive from behind the wheel and handles better than it has any right to. The lines are good from every angle, the engine and transmission are bulletproof yet powerful. The brakes are the only drawback to this car

>>17188972

>split window corvette

The boomer white whale.

>>17189952
>boomer white whale

And I'm much more interested in the Jags and MGs. I'd personally rather drive an MG TF, Morgan, or big Healey than a Corvette.

New thread? New thread!

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>>17191648