Colorado pushing legislation to ban coal-rolling

>>17140754
Connecticut's doing the same thing.
I hope it goes through honestly

>>17140754
>>17140767
This

>>17140754

Thats nice...thank you for sharing this...

Colorado based as fuck

Yeah I see no issue with that. Literally the only reason you'd roll coals is to be an insufferable cunt.

>>17140754
As much as I hate coal rollers, it shouldn't be illegal. As soon as the government decides it can ban things just because we don't like them, they could just ban whatever.

Oh wow, so what you're telling me being an obnoxious faggot in public will make legislators get involved like when open carry org decided to be embarrassing in public and suddenly places didn't want to allow open carry anymore?
Good shit, good shit.

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the Facebook normie salt is going to be delicious, I can't wait.

Hope this won't affect retarded poorfags with broken exhausts.

>>17140794
It's already illegal to tamper with the emissions equipment, it's just not enforced.

>>17140794
I would argue for banning it not just because it's beyond annoying, but because it is a legit safety issue. That black smoke can impair your vision momentarily, which makes all the difference in panic braking.

Breaks the NAP if done towards a person so it should be illegal desu

>>17140818
i lol'd thx

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>>17140818

>>17140807
Especially considering they roll coal on soccer moms in Priuses.

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>>17140822
>>17140828
you jest but it is an act of agression

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>>17140754
Good.

>>17140804
this is what pisses me off
why bother making a new law and wasting time and money when you can just enforce the existing ones and get the same result?

>>17140804
no it's not

>>17140855
Actually it is. It's completely illegal to tamper with your emissions equipment under the Clean Air Act. It's just not heavily enforced unless you're in California.

Law is stupid as hell. Modifying new diesels 2008ish and up with dpf making them roll coal is one thing. But fining people with older diesels that can't necessarily help it is just retarded.

>>17140754
post the other edit

>>17140882
There's a big difference between a small amount of black smoke upon acceleration and rolling coal.

>>17140872
it is but emissions didn't really apply to pre-2008 diesels. so while it's a federal crime to delete your DPF, there's really nothing against chipping your old 5.9 and making it roll coal all over the place.

I'm torn on this one because I can appreciate that diesels making big power tuned properly are going to chuff a little until they hit full boost, but your average high schooler making out his stock injectors just to dump smoke on a prius to amuse people needs to learn a lesson.

>>17140907
maxing out*

>>17140896
I have a 03 duramax. 0 emissions from the factory to delete. But it's tuned. Should I be fined still? Law is stupid like the liberal fucks that made it

>>17140917
They'll say "you don't NEED to tune your car, just buy a faster one!"

>>17140917
but was there any reason other than personal desire to tune it? was the tuning inadequate from the factory?

>>17140872
If modifying cars was illegal, crate engines, catless exhausts would not be legal, restricted for off road use at the very best.

The Clean Air Act only put rules to meet requirements at time of production.

>>17140847
all life is an act of aggression
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mijYXcSCS4

>>17140981
It's his private property, he should do what with it as he sees fit as long as it doesnt immediately harm anyone.

Quit taking away my property rights.

>>17141015
Blowing smoke in people's faces is immediately harmful.

>>17141027
Don't be a dumbass and stick your head in a tail pipe then.

>>17141039
Have you never seen the videos of coalburners positioning themselves next to cyclists, tuners and regular people in priuses and blowing their retarded smoke into their faces?

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>>17141007
Well you see, in polite society and not savage animal ecosystems, you should not legally be able to commit acts of aggression
>>17141027
>>17141057
Ive made that distinction.

A light tune that causes a small amount of smoke to unintentially come out of the exhaust under load is different from intentionally tuning it so that it causes a significant amount of smoke to come out and obstruct vision, possibly trigger respiratory problems, and possibly dirty up my car.
>>17141038
Theft is the price we pay for civilization

>>17140794
LE slippery slope fallacy
Gtfo

These vehicles are intentionally modified in a manner to make them non compliant with epa regulations

>>17140754
>>17140767
haha

I hope it goes nationwide

fuck these assholes

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>>17141039
#shewasaskingforit
#tailpipesneedpersonalspacetoo

>>17140981
I run efi live. There are five tuning options for mostly every day scenarios. A modified stock tune, a towing tune, 100hp street tune which I get my best economy out of and a 125hp and 150hp that I just never use. My truck my money let the liberals regulate something else. Maybe something more useful then worrying about what my truck does.

>>17140754
>Coal-burner
Means something totally different where I come from.

>>17140754
I've been waiting for something like that to happen to me
>swerve directly into truck
>tell police I couldn't see or breathe do to the smoke around me and panicked
>coal roller is now at partial fault for accident, likely full fault if I get a nice cop

>>17140754
This is a good thing, also who's that cutie pie?

>>17141095
I do not think the modification should be illegal but aiming it at people should. (and I think is in every state)

It's like guns, some dudes shoot other dudes with guns but you can still choose to own one and they are not banned (yet) universally, right?

>>17140754
I support coal rolling
People with shit car taste should be gassed

>>17141118
BLACKED

>>17141136
?

>>17141143
BIG

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If coal rolling brotrucks are banned I want fucking Honda's with fart cans banned too.

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>>17141152
Thats, just like, your opinion man

>>17141162
They are, if they exceed a certain decibel limit. Even if they don't, you can get fined for violating noise ordinances.

Redlining your car in your driveway at 8PM is illegal pretty much no matter what exhaust you have. Why do you think the Corvette has the multiple exhaust modes?

>>17141178
>morals
Morals aren't a factor. Once they ban cars over 100hp after a natural progression of more restrictive emissions laws you won't be laughing. Fucking liberals man, biggest idiots.

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I'm in favor depending on their definition of rolling coal.

If, to them, it means any amount of black smoke is coming from your pipes is illegal, kind of not shit IMO.

If it means rolling coal while actually dumping black smoke clouds on cars/people, then I'm fine with that.

>>17141178
I know you are just baiting me now, but:

>implying my political views were not based on Rand's objective philosophy and moral views were not based on Stirner's egocentric philosophy
Neitzche is entry level as fuck.

And you can see that I never brought morals into this, cock goblin. I am only concerned that others can harm me and I can not legally do harm back.

And did you know that you are fucking retarded because I am advocating for coal rolling being illegal seeing it's an easily enforced way to stop people damaging my shit and how no one enforces current laws against smoking me out?

>>17141162
>I want fucking Honda's with fart cans banned
what is a sound violation

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>>17141241
>third world
>cops give no fucks

That's because you don't have a car for them to give a fuck about.

And since you seem to be new around here, guess your country just established an internet connection! Welcome to the internet newfriend.

>>17141279
I doublespoke and I rescind my opinion on the law in >>17141126 in favor of the one proposed.

>>17141222
>>17141222
>le slippery slope fallacy
Stop posting any time

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>>17141312
Opinions such as "it's for fags" are not objective and non arguments, thusly I told you that it is an opinion and implied it had no right to be in the conversation because they are spooks and should be irrelevant when thinking about law.

I never used a moral argument. You brought it in and me dismissing it because it is a non argument because I never took that position, I was dismissing your position.

Harm is objective and "It will damage my property and hurt me" is a valid argument which is the position I took.

cmon I learned the difference between fact and opinion in elementary school

>>17141405
> You brought it in and me dismissing it because it is a non argument because I never took that position

*
You brought it in as an argument. Me dismissing it because it is a non argument is not an argument against me because I never took that position.*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9M13B-T_R8
>this kills the emissions cucks

>>17141446
>coalburners actually think this is what their brotrucks look like when they roll coal on their way to Wal-Mart

>>17140917
But does your truck roll coal?

>>17141465
>your understanding of certain philosophers is shit
Okay.

Well since I do admit I only skimmed Stirners wikipedia page because I only have mild autism, I will give you that. I thought I agreed with it but really now that I give more than a few seconds thought yeah you are right about my misunderstanding of stirner.

I did read atlas shrugged, though.


I will not argue on your terms because it seems to me like its:
>hahaha I win because of a fundamental difference in the way I value power
I say I win too because of mine too. And to be completely honest with you I do not care about your opinion either. I'll let you be a cuck to the more powerful, and I will prevent others from gaining power over me.

That is our difference in thought, and because it is fundamental and I am getting sleepy, I will agree to disagree, feel free to spam smug anime faces at me. I wont look at them.

>>17141322
Stop changing your name everyday and maybe people won't think you're a newfag

Its no good you've resorted to name fagging tho, real shameful

>>17141495
Ehhhh it depends. It happens from a stop or rolling into it no matter what you do. On a hotter day and mashing it from a stop it will cover people. But the real question is where is the line drawn with this law? The law is ridiculous no matter how they state it.

>>17140754
PLEASE HAVE THIS BANNED IN TEXAS FOR FUCK SAKES.

I can't stand having some microdick faggot in a Dodge with a cumguzzing Cummins diesel roal coal on me because I drive a god damn Prius.

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>>17141561
sounds like your the faggot in this situation desu baka senpai

>>17141570
really? how so?

>>17141576
you drive a prius in my state

I bet you have cali plates too

>>17141570
>your
coal roller confirmed

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>>17141561
I was there until you said Prius, you had it coming.

Why do rednecks hate the Prius?
If you drive an eco-friendly car, the liberuhls win?

>>17141597
you bought your car now live with it

I'm all for it, only to save the B50 life of those poor innocent engines.

It's absurd just how much particulates, ash, carbon black and sulfur is added to the lube oil when A/F is down around 15:1 on a diesel engine. Combine that with excessive exhaust valve stem temperature and bore wash down and that shit ain't healthy.

>>17141597
You are buying into a trend for uglier eco bitch cars that are becoming more prevalent.

>>17141584
no it does not. texan plates, and it's not my fault I drive something you gas guzzling freaks hate. i laugh at you everytime i get the chance knowing you have to pay extra for gas.

>>17141620
are you in austin by chance?

>>17141624
no san antonio

>>17141633
god DAMNIT there is a whole fucking containment city for you fucking cucks I'll roll the next prius I see and hope its you

>>17141620
I'm not poor so gas is no issue and I'm going burn as much as possible and fry the earths ozone layer just to send your faggot ass straight to hell.

>>17141597
Why do schoolkids make fun of the smartest/fattest/ugliest/prettiest/slowest/whatever kid on the playground? It's in our nature to believe that the choices we've made are the best and that the choices that are different from ours must somehow be inferior.

>>17141639
fuck. you. microdick.

i bet you're the kind of guy that would let your wife get fucked by a more superior alpha male who drives a Tesla, and your sorry scrawny little ass won't do shit about it but roal coal on other people to vent out your anger knowing you got cucked hard.

>>17141650
i'm sorry you have to live in my america for 8 years

>>17141657
i wish i wasnt, knowing you sad fucks have to compensate for your micropenis so you have to bully people on the road in your jacked up piece of shit mobile and roll coal on people to make them "inferior" to you. you are the most depraved species to ever walked on this earth.

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>>17141684
i kind of feel bad for you, having to just keep LOSING for 8 years in a row

>>17141280
a $175 improper exhaust ticket :(

>>17141697
>he assumes i voted for hillary

wow, you are fucking trying hard aren't you? just stop you are embarrassing yourself. xD

fyi i didnt vote for trump nor bernie

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>>17141684
Well, do you feel inferior?

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>>17141465
>morality is objective
people don't actually believe this, do they?

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>>17141714
then you LOST, cuck

>>17141716
Answer is: it can go both ways,

https://philosophynow.org/issues/115/Is_Morality_Objective

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>>17141720
haha nice meme check out what i did on inauguration day with some friends from /r/the_donald

>>17141756
stay TRIGGERED, cuck!

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>>17141756
>republicans
BWAHAHHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

>>17141756
FUCK OFF YOU ARE NOT ME

I WOULD NEVER SUPPORT AN ORANGE CHEETO WITH A TOUPE

>What does /o/ think about this?
Truck cucks btfo, but now who's going to keep our streets safe from pedalcucks and lycrafags and "peaceful protestors"?

>The new version made the behavior and type of vehicles targeted by the law more explicit.
This is the bit that interests me. Is it going to be a clear case of cops going after people being nuisances, or will it be someone going after old trucks for a bit of smoke for the sake of raising revenue?

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>>17141756
NO! DELETE THIS!

I'm disappointed. Rolling coal is a symbol of freedom, the freedom to tell the liberals that made these rules to fuck off. We don't want electric and hybrid cars. We'll keep our diesels and high displacements until the government takes it away.

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Mfw making a bicyclist lose balance by getting super close on redline

>>17141799
Found the degenerate tricycle rider

>>17141799
you did that all the time, nigger

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lmao faggot tree hugger manlets

>>17141830
Still angry being the helpless bitch on the road? I'd throw you into a bush kiddo

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>>17141840
This triggers many here, watch em sperg

Have a read of the comments on the article. You sharts are fantastic.

>>17140804
>It's already illegal to tamper with the emissions equipment, it's just not enforced.

FUCKING THIS. HOW DOES LITERALLY NO ONE KNOW THIS

>$100 fine
Weaksauce. Truck should be impounded and subsequently deposited on the owner's front lawn as a nice little compacted steel cube.

>>17141901
>I don't like person. Crush his stuff daddy govt.
If you don't have the balls to slash his tires yourself you're a spineless cuck.

you're free to leave america if you don't like our black soot

>>17141915
>slashing tires
Now that's just petty.

Mfw no cats so my smoke is invisible muahahaha petrol lyfe

I do it to libtard cyclists all the time.

Bicycles should be banned from colorado secondary roads anyway.

get cancer cucks

>>17141561
>drives a prius
Why on earth do you drive a Prius? Why not get a hybrid Camry or Accord instead? Infinitely better commuter car IMHO.

>>17141559
>impair vision of cars behind you with your shit truck
>legitimate safety issue
>FUCKING LIBERALS WANT TO BAN MY FAGGOTY COAL ROLLING

Neck yourself

>>17142243
Image. Prius is as much a lifestyle accessory as a Miata.

>>17141039
>don't be a dumbass and stand in front of a bullet

itt: liberal arts majors are scared of smoke

>>17142273
i dont even give a fuck about that shit.

i just get mad because they are reducing the goddamn power and efficiency of their engine to make smoke.

shit my goddamn petrol v8 can do the same thing by being old and shitty

>>17142273
>LIBERALS WANT TO BAN
America sure became a weird country, the forefathers are crying

>>17142329
It's one of those things that attract smug faggots to it. In a sense, I can sympathize with coal rollers when it comes to the prius.
>mfw my dad's accord hybrid gets 45 mpg and still has leg room

>>17142399
Eh, I know a few Prius drivers and they're okay people. I guess they're smug but that's one of the prerequisites to live in Oregon. Even the rednecks are smug.

>>17142404
right, let's defend ourselves with muskets
fuck off yuropoor

>replying to nigger Alphonse threads
saged

>>17141830

what's so funny about this sentence?

one can be a nationalist and globalist at the same time

globalist does not = rapefugees welcome multiculture is the best etc etc

>>17141109
That's the joke

>>17142344
>they are reducing the goddamn power and efficiency of their engine to make smoke.

Uhhhh not here. Nobody here rolls coal on purpose. Everybody cranks up the fuel to get more power but they spent all their money on Mickey Thompson's and monster stickers so they run the stock turbo, Which results in coal being rolled.

Ban it, only delt with bad drivers who do that.

>Driving my shitbox in 2 line highway
>Hit the uphill section
>Move my slow piece of shit into the right lane to let people pass as I lose speed.
>RUSTING pickup behind me honks as he tail gates me
>Gets over and cuts me off to roll coal

We were still going 5 mph over

WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?

>>17140754
I cannot for the life of me figure out why people make their trucks perform worse just to blow smoke so it looks like the engine is shitting itself.

>>17140804
>Hope this won't affect retarded poorfags with broken exhausts.
Yea that would be my one concern with laws like this.

>>17145190
I'd get one just to roal coal on the faggot bicyclist on my touge that can't stay in a single file line

>>17140754
Burn the coal, pay the toll.

>>17141924
Perhaps, but if you've got an axe to grind with the truck cuck you'd best do it yourself. Slash his tires, smash his windshield, or even march up to his doorstep and fuck him in the mouth. Whatever. You're a scumbag for it, but more than a dozen rungs up from the sort of filth that hides behind legislation because he doesn't have the balls to do his own dirty work.

>>17141924
>>17145231
You NEVER fuck with another man's automobile you degenerate. Go fight him you pussies.

>>17145235
That's the proper option, to bash his manlet head in. But we're talking effeminate ecofags and pedalcucks here. They'll always do something slimy, but better they do it themselves instead of crying to the government to have things they don't like cubed.

>>17145235
Cuck

>>17145162

It's fucking annoying when slow cunts like you block traffic. Especially on hills where you kill momentum. You shouldn't be in the fast lane if you're only doing 5mph over, Grandpa.

>>17142329
Except the miata has no competition in the DDable $5k RWD sports car segment unless you buy German trash.

>>17145259
How am I the cuck for having the moral code of never fucking with someone else's car? You have a problem with someone you let them know instead of being a scared little bitch vandalizing his property when he's not around. You are either Basketball American or underage, which is it?

>>17140955
you don't NEED a faster car. Your current car is perfectly capable of reaching the speed limit

>>17140794
They want to make it illegal because it can be hazardous to health, the biosphere, and is entirely unnecessary.

>>17145298
>be cuck
>get mad and puff yourself up over hypotheticals on the internet

>>17145274
>move over to the right lane so people can pass

Civilized drivers: Slower traffic keep right. Faster traffic move left.
American drivers: NOBODY GETS IN FRONT OF ME FUCK YOU

>>17145311
Prudent acceleration is a safety issue. Try merging onto the freeway at 35 because the fucking lifted brotruck in front is afraid of flipping if he takes a slight turn going faster than that.

>>17145324
>be section 8 black man
>have nothing better to say
Gee, what a surprise

>>17145274
can you read?

>>17145320

But 3rd world countries are allowed to burn ethanol and leaded gas in dirty old 2 strokes? But were the ones doing the damage to the earth right?

Your average straight piped gas ricer puts out more nastier shit than a diesel. If you're making over 500hp you should be allowed to do whatever the fuck you want. Let the poor people be cucked.

Americans dont need assault weapons or big diesels, they should be taken by the government

There are too many school shootings and too mamy overcompensating males there

>>17145345

Yes I can. Can you not read the "slower traffic keep right" signs? Get the fuck in the slow lane, Especially if fucking brotrucks are passing you.

>>17145355
This here is the definition of a cuck, it's known as a compliment in some parts of Europe

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>>17145373
First (You)

>>17145311
>need
Irrelevant. This is an argument for Yuropoors and losers to justify their compromises.

>>17145320
You know what else is hazardous to the biosphere? Cargo ships. But I see no move for greener freighters.

Leonardo DiCaprio is a bit of a shitcock here too, what with his pontificating about how the plebs shouldn't pollute while he jets about the world on his private jet.

Truck cucks are a drop of piss in an ocean.

>>17145328
Something something white bois.

>>17145389
Thanks senpai, feels good when I'm right

Americans do not need musclecars, they just drive big heavy v8s to overcompensate for ther small penises

Same with guns, most americans only should be allowed to have a shotgun by the gogernment, they dont need an m-16

All for this.

>>17145416
Can't wait until the EU bans 4chan for hate speech and /o/ is usable again.

>>17145416
>inb4 "huur I don't need anything I want it"
Its like, they don't need to eat unhealthy food and get fat and get cucked by bbc, they just want to
Lmao

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>>17145422
Second (You)

>>17145389
>>17145432
This shitposter is broken

Americans are fat and dumb, all fast food chains should be closed and salad bars should be built there, there should be mandatory literacy programs so that they understand the benefits of socialism, multiculturalism and a big government

>>17145450
You forgot cultural enrichment

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>>17141162
do quebec truckers murder just as many prostitutes as american ones?

People who roll coal are just mad their wives are coal burners
Lmao

>>17140804
>Hope this won't affect retarded poorfags with broken exhausts.
It won't theres no way a dinky poorfag's car makes this kind of exhaust

>>17145459

I doubt it. 99% of truckers in Quebec are brown. They're too busy talking on the phone and shitting through the truck floor to be murdering hookers. Also our prostitute scene is shit in Canada, The lot lizards are all toothless Indians (feather not dot).

>>17140754
Oh good, maybe they'll tune their truck right, as an outcome.

>>17141559
Get the truck tuned. If its tuned well, it wont smog people, and you'll have more power as well.

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>>17145369
>Anon moves to right when slow.
>Another Anon angry about him not moving to right lane when slow

???????

>>17140754
>4100 fine
They should have their trucks crushed for willingly reducing road visibility to 0 because they're mentally 12

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>>17145394

We've been through this dance again and again.

Not only do Panamax and smaller bulk carriers make up less than ten percent of the CO2 emissions globally according to the IMO, there have been extreme steps taken in the past decade to bring coastal and international vessels in line with IMO Tier 3. For an industry that has forever placed the reliability of the plant as paramount and emissions as a non-issue, the fact that the industry is shortening the service life of plant to enact Tier 3 limits is incredible. These changes include the reporting requirements to prove that only ULSDFO has been bunkered and burnt, restrictions on the burning of HFO being widened up to twenty nautical miles offshore in some areas, the budgeting of higher service costs associated with boiler failure, injector plunger failure, injector pintle failure and the scuffing of large bore liners that required the sulphur in the DFO/HFO to prevent ring no.1 binding, implementation of SCR on engines pushing 50+ years of service, implementation of emissions control measures on low and medium speed two cycle engines (!!!), implementation of EGR for auxiliary power units, the implementation of jacket water pre-heaters on auxiliary power units to prevent startup emissions breaching Tier 3 levels, and more that you can find out about if you are interested enough.

And if you are dumb enough to 'roll coal,' you deserve the bore wash-down, contamination of the lube oil from abrasive particulates and sulphuric acid build-up in the lube oil that awaits you.

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Been through this dance again and again too.

So the smoke tune on EFI Live, Bullydog handheld tuners and MiniMaXX's are for what else exactly? What other benefit could there be for applying the full 5V to the MAP signal input at idle and low engine speed? Is there any other reason to add 30% rail pressure at idle and low speed? Taking three to five degrees out at idle and jacking up the post injection values, what else does this achieve?

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>Your average straight piped gas ricer puts out more nastier shit than a diesel. If you're making over 500hp you should be allowed to do whatever the fuck you want. Let the poor people be cucked.

Oh no... it's retarded.