JUST

>>17138607
The Electric Herbie

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You aren't the demographic they are looking for.

This car is for the millennial male middle-management demographic working in either law, tech, or finance. Low level personnel.

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>>17138630
Wrong.

Strong, Independent, Women.™

>>17138623
I thought that was the Voltzwagen kit from EV West.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXsQGWWz3Is

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>>17138655
Strong, Independent, Women.™

>>17138607

looks like a background car from gta, always driven by some chai drinking wimpy armed mystery meat millenial irritant

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>>17138668
Found the strong independent woman™

>>17138670
the most apt description of a tesla I've ever read

>>17138655
what a bunch of bitches. Can you imagine walking behind them at a quarter mile an hour having to listen to their hideous cackling?

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>>17138687
What? There's nothing wrong with being a strong independent woman™. In fact, it's the opposite. It's stunning, powerful, and brave.™

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>caring about how people spend their money

>>17138607
im not even mad

>>17138655
>>17138663
>>17138674
>>17138706
keep on keepin' on anon

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>>17138715
Hey Anons! This chicka just got her new Tesla 3! Ugh, sure is hard savin' the world and lookin' good doin' it! Time for a break and a Chai Tea latte run! #tesla #model3 #starbucks #tea #crazylife #selfie #coffeeselfie #strongindependentwoman #stunningpowerfulandbrave #hotties #coffeehotties #teslahotties #yolo #green #ilovetheenvironmentandimnotashamedtosayit #science #sciencegirl #nerdgirl #nerd #coffeenerd #greengirl

>>17138742
>saving the world
Well, she isn't wrong. Electric cars do pollute less.

>>17138742

did i just wander onto instagram fuck, my eyes hurt

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>>17138618

>>17138607
Tesla front end design fucking pisses me off because you have this awesome opportunity by not needing a grille and they fucked it up so awfully.

>>17138760
***ATTENTION: BAIT POST***
***ATTENTION: BAIT POST***
***ATTENTION: BAIT POST***
everybody who sees this post, this is bait. I am only responding to this faggot so that others may not give him the pleasure of a thousand (you)'s.

>>17138777
>facts are bait
Yea, I'll take facts from the EPA over some autist on the Internet.

>>17138771
this, why the fuck do they leave that flat spot? It looks ridiculous.

holy hell that's ugly
at least give it a :-D so that it appeals to more people as a green car ad not that life less expression

>>17138785
of course they produce less emissions while driving, but they produce plenty of emissions when they are made, plus extremely harmful lithium mining for batteries. I'm right, no need for any further conversation.

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>>17138760
>>17138785

LOL! I KNOW RIGHT?! Electric cars 4TW! LOL I'm so random. I learned that gaming. I got big into it after I took this programming class online and I learned to program. God, don't you just love Teslas? I totally love them! They're so cute! Cyber five, anon! #hateuscuztheyainus #electricftw #savethewhales #ifyourenotfortheenvironmentyouwontbeinmine #greenlyfe #tesla #teslahotties #greenhotties #enviromenthotties #savetheenvironment #strongindependentwomen #stunningpowerfulbrave #downwiththepatriarchy #lovelife #love #meditation #yoga #coffee #coffeeaddict

>>17138753
tru

>>17138801
Yes, you are right. They do pollute more initially but over 100,000 miles they pollute over 50% less.
>>17138821
take some anti psychotic meds, retard.

>>17138785
>>17138760

That's where your wrong. Electric cars are much worse for the environment than Tesla, ecowarriors, and liberals want you to think.

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/electric_emissions.php

This website goes state by state, if you're American. In many places, especially where coal is still king (ie. many states), you'll have less of an environmental impact utilizing a non-plug in hybrid car.

And like >>17138801 said, production. Lithium is harmful to acquire. Cobalt, an essential part of pretty much every rechargeable battery, comes from mines in sub-Saharan Africa, some of which utilize child labor.

>>17138607
ICEfags BTFO

>>17138843

it's a false economy designed to massage the egos of effeminate urbane pricks, what else is new?

electric cars, the automotive equivalent of sketchers shape ups, pilates and colonic irrigation

>>17138760
>>17138785
Well, she is wrong. Pollution from operating cars is ultimately negligible, especially in civilized countries that don't use diesels (it's all carbon dioxide, a weak greenhouse gas that is easy to sequester). Even if you leave it be, climate change is not the end of the world. The end of human life with sub-100 IQ scores in the equatorial zone or anywhere affected by an early ice age? Maybe. The end of polar bears? Maybe. The world? Life has adapted to more dramatic changes.

However, manufacturing new cars requires the wanton and permanent destruction of our planet in order to mine the metals and petroleum needed to make the part for the damn things, including stocks of replacement parts, metals, plastics, wires, paint, you fucking name it, and the polluting byproducts are TOXIC. Period. They kill, poison, and sterilize, and cleaning them up can not be done naturally or easily as it is with Co2. Buy new = rape the earth.

If anyone here wants to save the planet I recommend restoring an old bicycle using nothing but salvaged parts and natural oils for the finish. If a motor is your thing then if you can not find a suitable electric motor to retrofit into a moped/scooter/pedalbike then a modern small displacement motorcycle or a used prius is your best bet. Never buy new.

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This where your lithium battery comes from.

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>>17138843
>that's where you're wrong
Nope.

>literally cites a website that shows 70% of U.S power comes from renewable energy
lol

I live in Nevada where over 75% of our power comes from natural gas. Over 90% comes from renewable energies.

>blah blah blah lithium mining
Already accounted for if you would get your head out of the sand, dumbass. EPA statistics show that they pollute over 50% less.
>>17138867
>pollution from operating cars is negligible
[citation needed]

>blah blah lithium mining
see post above

>>17138843

In addition, utilizing an electric car requires one too many compromises and lifestyle changes.

>don't even bother doing any spirited driving, the batteries will overheat and go into limp mode
>your long distance trips? LA --> Vegas for example, a 3.5 - 4 hr trip becomes 5 hours since you gotta charge
>electricity interrupted because power outage or maintenance on the grid, too bad, you're not going anywhere

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>>17138885
oops forgot the source on my claims

https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=NV

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>>17138885
>bla bla lithium
I never specified lithium. Copper, steel, oil for plastics. It all has to come out of the earth. Here's a copper mine.

BUY NEW = RAPE THE EARTH. "But my greenhouse gases!" Yeah, have fun with that unchanged climate when you have no unpolluted land to enjoy it on.

>[citation needed]
22% of total Co2 emissions is negligible.

Global warming's actual effects are negligible unless you really think preserving the current state of animals like polar bears, penguins, africans, and south united statians is that important.

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>>17138923
>22% of total Co2 emissions is negligible

>>17138769
That unironicly looks way better than the origional.

>>17138885
Okay, how about people living in

Colorado
Hawaii
Indiana
Kentucky
Missouri
New Mexico
North Dakota
Ohio
Utah
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

>>17138923
Yup. People want to buy new to suit their stupid wants and to fill the coffers of the big auto companies. It is better to find, restore/fix, and maintain an old vehicle.

>>17138923
Wow, I didn't know we had a gold medalist in mental gymnastics on our board

>>17138932
It is.

Go fuck a polar bear, cletus. If it bothers you get a fucking bicycle.

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>>17138885
>[citation needed]
I don't know why people need these shitboxes so much.

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>>17138719
>alphonse ban evading AGAIN
>mfw

get reported kiddo

>>17138932
If you really want to make an impact on solving (((global warming))), ditch the car. Get a fucking bicycle. Take public transportation. Stop eating meat.

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>>17138941
lol. if you don't live in a degenerate state then your state will have adopted renewable energies.
>>17138970
stay btfo
>>17138971
a bike that gets 100 mpg is matching an electric car

>>17138997
(((Renewables))) are a fucking meme. Those states like the People's Republic of California are wasting taxpayer money subsidizing those power sources when coal works just fine.

>>17139026
>renewables are a meme
Not really. they're significantly better for the environment

>>17138971
>stop eating meat

more like stop eating literally anything commercially produced. you think those combine harvesters run on unicorn farts? grow your own food.

>>17138997
in post-production emissions, given the electric car is only recharged with electricty produced renewably.

in total emissions and environmental destruction, the bicycle is 20lbs of metal that could have come from a local small-scale mine and been made into a bike by someone with some basic hand tools and a drill/riveter, and the electric car is 4000lbs of lithium, cobalt, petroleum, steel, copper, aluminum, fiberglass, etc that had to be made in a large scale factory, and all of that had to be transported via very polluting boats at some point or another.

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>>17138840
>implying a tesla can even reach 100,000 miles
argument nullified

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>>17139056
BTFO

http://insideevs.com/200000-miles-tesla-model-s-experienced-6-battery-degradation/

>>17139040
Bullshit. Instead of building and wasting billions of money into renewable tech, how about reducing consumption.

>>17139047
Fuck off. /pol/ is right.

>>17139056
Yup. Battery degredation is a fucking bitch. Gotta change the battery after 300-400 cycles (<100,000 miles)

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>>17139070
>gotta change the battery after 100,000
lol

see
>>17139067
B T F O
T
F
O

>>17139067
>Clinton
Too bad. Trump won. Climate change denial is the official policy of the United States. Freedom has won.

>>17139070
>reducing consumption

but daddy i want a shiny new luxury car

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>>17139081
>freedumb has won
no, it hasn't.
>>17139088
lol a

>>17139088
>>17139080
We are mere mortals who will forever fail to understand the means of a god. We are unworthy of Trump's leadership.

>>17139086
Right. I WANT A NEW CAR. WHYYYYYYYY WON'T DADDY BUY ME A NEW CAR

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>>17139112
Electric cars run off of american sources. ICE runs of off foreign sources.

electric>gas

>>17139103
Yes it has. As long as I can refuse to drive or ride in a "green" car, we are free. Hybrids and electrics are heavier and inferior to their pure gasoline counterparts.

>>17139067
>a source that is biased against ICE cars and is trying to propagate electric cars is a """reliable source"""
fuck off back to huffington post faggot

>>17139124
Gives us a reason to go to war. I like war.

Electric cars are disgusting. Quiet electric car versus the roar of a NA V8 with the biggest displacement on the market revving to 9000RPM. I'll take the V8.

>>17139067
>front motor had to be replaced at 30,000 miles
LMAO he didn't even read his own source

>>17139125
stay btfo
>>17139129
>>17139142
stay btfo
>>17139143
>replaced as a part of a infinite mile warranty
lel, btfo

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>>17139143

>motors and batteries both replaced at some point under warranty, teslas aren't really unreliable

>i had a new engine and gearbox fitted under warranty, brand x cars aren't really unreliable

what the fuck mane

>>17139149
>tesla can't even make an electric motor that lasts beyond 30k miles
lmao, the fucking warranty doesn't matter. Warranty won't help you get home when you're stuck in the middle of nowhere with no hope of rescue.

>>17139158
did the engine and transmission give out after 30,000 miles? If so, then yes, that is a very unreliable car dumbass.
>teslafags can't into logic

>>17139159
>ice so shit it doesn't have an infinite mile 8 year warranty
lol

>>17139194

i was comparing how the failures of the tesla in the article wouldn't be acceptable in an ICE car

it's like starbucks or apple, the shiny brand will make people ignore the shit quality beneath

>>17139196
>tesla so shit it needs an infinite mile warranty so people won't get frustrated at the horrid reliability and shitty electric motors that can't last beyond 30k miles
lol

>>17139209
oh sorry for the friendly fire anon

>>17138607

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>>17138821
>#lovelife

I'll take it.

>>17139226

dw bro, i'm amazed that both the standard 12v battery and the main pack needed to be replaced, i've just replaced the original battery on my 2000 daily last week lmao

>tfw not replacing engine at 36000 and letting it run to 125000 miles and counting

how can tesla compete

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>>17139263

How long does this shit take to charge, if it's longer than 3 ish minutes than what is the point of running one like they did in the article

Waiting for false battery level readings to leave teslafags stranded in the desert, needing hours of charging and software resets to get going again

>>17139263
lol, upon further reading of mashahshifag's source, it says the batteries were replaced some time before 200k miles. So he just cited a source against himself.
>teslafags are getting THIS btfo and still digging themselves deeper

>>17138840
Doesn't make up for the amount of pollution they make initially.

Stay btfo.

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>>17139301

so basically the REPLACEMENT battery pack suffered 6% fade in the time it was in the car, the first pack being too fucked to function?

can someone who isn't about to go to bed work out how long that 6% fade took from the date of REPLACEMENT (lol) to when the car was written about

>tfw normal 12v battery didn't last 17 years in a tesla

>>17139317
yep, it does

>>17138607
john, what the fuck is that?!

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>>17139344
the car I drive my wife's boyfriend in to our house so that he can satisfy my wife

>>17138630
So literally the apple of cars

I'll keep my 20 year old cat deleted V8

Only spend 50 $ a week on fuel

>>17139344
Porsche SUV + Downs

>>17138607
>ugly front that tries too hard to look like a Panamera
>electric

No thanks. I'll take a V8. I'll never fall for this eco warrior bullshit. Gas expenses are meaningless to me, I'm not a poorfag. Doesn't matter if electric cars are cheaper to buy and operate. I'll pay a premium for no hybrid or non electric if I have to.

>>17139383
Apple of cars
>objectively inferior car than competition - hardware, software, design
>walled garden
>overpriced
>"trendy" people on social media will have this and constantly shill for it

Can't wait for my peers to give me grief for refusing to buy into the Tesla meme, or even just the electric meme. Electricity is for your toaster, liquid hydrocarbons are for real machines.

>>17139344
The shittiest car to ever hit the road. An attack on traditional ICE cars.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-04/musk-employs-unusual-marketing-plan-for-model-3-anti-selling

Tesla will not be offering any test drives for Model 3 until as late as February 2018.

>>17141768
>dude apple sucks!
>uses the piece of hot trash that is windows
I will never understand winbabies.

>>17143304
>>I will never understand winbabies
I will never understand Applefags who pay $1200 for a laptop with 1 port.

>>17143304
>many configurations
>modifiable
>serviceable yourself

>>17143304
>implying people dont dual-boot windows and linux so they can have games.
Do you even rFactor?

>>17143284
Ah yes, it's the whole "video games can sell without demos" mechanism all over again.

>>17143337
At least you can return the video game with little hassle if it turns out to be a hot mess. Can't do that if your $50,000 Model 3 turns out to be shit.

>>17138688
Go around stupid

>>17138618
it's like a super cute panamera

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>>17139026

>Renewables are a meme

Meanwhile,

>China, a nation of over a billion people, is leading the world in renewables
>The cost of renewables is dropping sharply around the world because of increased production, particularly in China & the US
>Solar + wind energy in America is already cheaper than coal and already provides more jobs
>All the major tech companies are running on renewables
>Oil & gas giants like Aramco, BP & RDS are pushing billions of dollars into renewable energy investments

You can argue all day long about electric cars and I wouldn't give a shit, but actually believing renewables are a meme shows you're either deeply ignorant or deep in duh Nile.

>>17139150
You are autistic but that was an extremely amerilard post

This coming from an amerilard

>>17138769
>>17138618
This actually looks really good

What the fuck man

>>17138607
This does not look like a finished car. Also those tiny wheels and tires just make a fat car look even fatter.

>>17144773
The only decent renewable is dam power plants because it will basically never run out unless we have an apocalyptic environmental shift, and it provides huge amounts of potential energy. Wind is alright but only for places where it's windy all the time. Solar is inefficient shit-tier technology.

>>17143643
>not enjoying the rage

>>17138742
It makes me fucking sick that this isn't just a joke. So many faggots, and cunts really do present themselves this way, hash tag faggotry included.

>>17138607
lol they don't have to house an engine in the front so they thought they would extend the cabin into it to make the cabin 'more luxerious'.

Looks like fucking shit prius. All that extra space and all you get is an ipad and no controls.

>>17138769
good lord that is beautiful.

>>17138997
lol California is 'all renewable' but in reality has to import coal power from across the border to provide energy for the population. Only fucking morons beliebe anything they read about cali from Californians.

I need to ask. Since the Teslas accelerate very quickly and gives off the impression that they're extremely fast cars, would this be the kind of car /ourguy/ Nakazato would drive?

>The "S" emblem on the rear is the legendary symbol for invincibility! Can you get close enough to read it?

>>17144907
Why don't they just make a car-van?

>>17144931
Honeslty they may as well. The 3 almost looks good. The design and contours look good and even the fasces but the proportions make it look cheap and womanish.

Compare it to a boxster or another car without an engine in the front where they make it look sporty and sophisticated.

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>>17144828

>Wind is alright but only for places where it's windy all the time

>The contiguous United States has the potential for 10,459 GW of onshore wind power. The capacity could generate 37 petawatt-hours annually, an amount nine times larger than current total U.S. electricity consumption.
http://apps2.eere.energy.gov/wind/windexchange/pdfs/wind_maps/wind_potential_80m_30percent.pdf

>Solar is inefficient shit-tier technology

Is that why solar employment had overtaken oil, gas and coal employment in 2015 in the US?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-25/clean-energy-jobs-surpass-oil-drilling-for-first-time-in-u-s

And is that also why it takes ~0.6% of the country's landmass to run entirely on solar?
>A previous NREL report, “Land-use Requirements and the Per-capita Solar Footprint for Photovoltaic Generation in the United States,” had estimated that if solar energy was to meet 100 percent of all electricity demand in the US, it would take up 0.6 percent of the total area in the country.
https://www.energymanagertoday.com/it-takes-2-8-acres-of-land-to-generate-1gwh-of-solar-energy-per-year-says-nrel-094185/

>>17139142
>I'll take the V8
>with a side of micropenis

>>17143304
SOME PEOPLE HAVE A CAREER THAT REQUIRES SOFTWARE TO WORK %100 OF THE TIME

FUCK OFF /GEEEEEEEEEE/

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>>17138843
I guess it kind of makes up for the palmetto bug problem...

>>17144988
>wind
kills lots of wildlife and is ugly [X]
>solar
only exists due to government funding [X]

>>17139070
Kek

>>17145054
wind only exists because of government funding too.

arguing about energy on the internet is completely pointless though because most people couldn't pass a 7th grade physics exam.

>>17145003
Found the faggot. Are you a top or bottom?

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>>17145054

>kills lots of wildlife and is ugly
Just like virtually every other source of mass energy production

>only exists due to government funding
Not really.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-10/big-oil-unexpectedly-backs-newest-non-fossil-fuels
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-oil-climatechange-idUSKBN12X0WA

>>17144988
Just wondering, what are your thoughts on nuclear power?

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>>17138769
I can only dream of being so happy.

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>>17145134

I would take nuclear over coal/oil/gas, but I don't like the risks associated with it so I'd still prefer solar/wind.

>>17138607
Holy shit those are ugly. Now I have a new ugly car to see every day.

>>17138607
the car looks too self aware
perpetually trying to find its meaning in a world where it has no right but to serve
knowing it's somehow different than all the other cars, but not knowing how or why
nonetheless, gutted of any individuality
traumatized by hecklers and objectified by delusional buyers
kill it, please

>>17145193
that picture isn't showing what you think it's showing

>>17145318

>maximum tsunami wave amplitudes from the 2011 Tohoku tsunami

It's misleading but it doesn't really change anything because earthquakes, floods, tsunamis etc. can cause disastrous meltdowns like Fukushima

>>17138607
Fuck that electronic nonsense.

>>17138618
>renault will never make an electric twingo in the US

Tesla is the only good car company

tesla as a company is worth more than ford. i don't know how to process this information

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>>17145590

That's mostly due to hype from investors over the company's potential, not what they've actually done. Primarily because they as a company are attempting something no one else is really doing, not so much in terms of going electric but also because of their autopilot tech, sky-high safety ratings, direct sales to consumers (cutting out the car dealers), etc. And let's not forget America is fully erect for Elon Musk right now. So investors are hyped and they want to see Tesla succeed.

If the Model 3 delivers on what's been promised, then it'll be a different story.

>>17145409
at least it wasn't no where near as bad as chernobyl