Say something bad about a car you like

The battery was relocated by the previous owner to the frunk, so now a spare won't fit. Neither will a donut

>Honda S2000
It's extremely overrated at the current price point and almost "boomer" "I know what I got" tier when I read craigslist ads for these things.

>>17136848
Oh yeah, it's an AW11 with a 3SGTE swap

>mine
FWD.

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>Ford Crown Victoria

woefully underpowered, ancient and crusty

>>17136854
this
just saw one for 28k when it had over 50k miles with "tasteful mods" it's just stupid at this point

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>Burns fuel more violently than the local "tough" boys
>Requires maintenance almost once a week
>Terrible if you're antisocial

>>17136832
>gt86
subaru collab was a mistake.

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it's probably the least practical road car put is series production. Its not expecially good to drive either

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Cant go over 55 without the entire thing shaking

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>>17136930
that's pretty sexy...

>740
why could it not have had a 3 litre i6...

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>electrical nightmare
>dash cracks
>headliner rot
>pop-up motor failures
>leaky
>no center console arm rest, but you can buy one for the low price of $200 on ebay
>uncomfortable sitting position

>>17136943
>memetax

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>>17136832

>pre-facelift is shit tier reliability.
>post-facelift is too outdated.
>fucking expensive on the second hand market. A 2007 model costs over 8k euros.

>>17136891
fucking lol I think I know the one you're talking about. The best part was:

>featured in super street magazine!!

Oh thanks that basically lets me know that its total fucking garbage

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Only cunts buy Porsches.
>I still would buy one if I could

>>17137030
something something ruf

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Boy, where do I begin?
The 4 cylinders were all shit.

>>17137045
Lmao this guy
Having a 330ci but faking a M3
s a d

It's a total fucking unibody pile of trash with ancient engineering, shit-tier ECU and comes with incredibly weak axles stock.

But I love my MJ anyway.

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>>17136832
>Say something bad about a car you like
I..I can't

>>17137064
ikr? xd what a shitbox lol

>tfw I found an S2000 that was hit on the side and would require some body work but only 70000 miles and ~$4k
LADS

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>>17136832
>mazdaspeed miata

they're slow and need at least $5k to be made decently quick

I don't fit well in almost any nice two seater import.

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Overpriced for what it is
Engine is relatively fragile and frame is prone to rust

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underpowered when stock

>>17136832
1993 Dodge D150 360 5.9
>6200LB Shit boat
I like this

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can't have a manual with leather seats unless you go Type R

>>17136832
>Rx-8
Too heavy.
Burns through spark plugs.

All I dislike.

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>>17136832
Can't steer

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You can't drive it on the street :^(

>>17137254
Power is about the last thing I'd complain about on a fox. They're fast enough to be fun stock, just not really amazing. The rest is truly awful stock. Still enjoy mine but you don't love something if you can't criticize it IMHO.

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>>17137586
>legally

>>17137783
Lotus keeps it to make sure you don't but that would be fun as shit

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>>17136832
Made for Midgets

>>17136832
S2k
>over priced
>sketchy electronic steering

BR-Z
>too slow
>seats are tiny

Corolla (GT-S)
>literally a meme car
>noisy
>slow
>seats suck

300zx TT
>maintenance nightmare
>cost is not good for normal car owners

M3
>shoulda been faster for the cost
>too luxury now

Corvette
>garbage interior quality for the price

Foxbody
>it's bland as fuck
>interior is absolute white trash garbage tier

Focus RS
>LOL that price
>LOL that price all day

Tundra
>falling behind
>body too bubbly and rounded

Titan XD
>fucking chrome
>absurd truck pricing

240sx
>will never get low mile, unmolested one like when I was 16
>NOT reliable
>NOT fast
>interior was pretty bad in s13

>>17136832
>Focus RS
>could have a mustang GT for the price
>looks a little too boyracer
The price point of that car really fucking bothers me.

>>17137074

>Minivan

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>FD
I love this car, but where to fucking start

>unreliable
>apex seals
>burns oil by design
>flood city
>horrendous fuel economy

Good luck with those electronics. Also enjoy the sparkplugs. T. E32-E38 7-Series BMWs

>>17137925

Eh it's not too bad if you're willing to autism out, you can get DIS/Gt1 to find everything wrong with the electronics.

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>>17136832
>tfw no turbo

>>17137851
>BRZ seats are too small
Fatty detected

>>17137913

>horrendous fuel economy

You don't DD an FD.

>>17137958
Care to elaborate on this DIS/GT1? I am not too good with electronics nor computers.

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Awful gas engine, electric gremlins out the ass

>>17138004

DIS/GT1 is a software package that BMW used before '07, it has the capability to read out every electronic part of your vehicle, and more often than not tell you exactly what's fucked and what you need to do to unfuck it.

For OBD1 cars (pre-96 got America I believe) you'll need a laptop with a hard serial port, or the possibility to use an extension card to add a hard port.

Then you need to install windows on your laptop, they often say XP works best but with a little cocking around I got it to work on 7.

Then you need to install VMware and use that to boot GT1.

With some finagling you can get it to work with obd1, using what's called an ADS interface.

Using Gt1 you can diagnose basically everything.
It told me exactly which abs sensor was fucked, and that my pump was fucked.

It's told me about some other small doodads like a/c not working for reasons I don't recall etc.

Basically it's a setup that'll let you read and reconfigure your car in minute detail, short off remapping your ECU.

>>17136913
What about cars like the Ariel Atom and other cars with no roof or boot?

>>17136832
>ae86
Literally a shitbox that eats more of your wallet than oil

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It's a princess

>>17137977
Manlet detected

>Slow as fuck
>battery is too hard to get to (tucked into corner where wrenches barely fit and can only do tiny turns with big hands and terminals are covered by stupid bar thing like its pretending to be a racecar

Atleast its relatively comfortable

t. '86 Celebrity Eurosport owner.

>>17138245
Also
>3spd auto
>fwd
>no tach

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>>17138228
>implying tall people can't be skinny

>>17138306
>insecure posture
what are you doing?
Do you have no dad?

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They are all too huge and heavy, even the kei sports cars.
>tfw seat all the way to the front in small car

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>nightmare to work on
>overweight
>actively trying to kill you
>kinda slow

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>>17138320

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They are all gone since 2003.
All crushed by GM.
Not a single one is still on the road.

>>17137074
Lets see here cheap exterior (starts falling apart over 120mph)
Barrier to true power is $5000+

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>>17138340
>sub-3000 lbs
>overweight

autism much?

>>17138530
for as small as it is, ~2,900 lbs is heavy. 3sgte is an iron lump.

>gt86
>slow
>overpriced
>just a sightly larger miata

I still want it though

The focus ST steering rack is too fucking short ratio and drives like a truck

>>17138353
My dad's friend had one, and managed to fight GM in court and keep his for a few years longer than just about anybody else. I think he's in that documentary about the whole saga.

I believe there are a few dozen left, but don't know if any are drivable anymore. There's one on display in the Petersen Museum in LA.

>>17138004
>>17138159
The GT1 suite is actually really fucking old. DIS is a nightmare to use even if you do manage to jump through all the hoops, and I never managed to get SSS working. Fortunately, you don't need to use any of that shit!

There are basically two software packages used for diagnosing and reconfiguring ("coding") BMWs nowadays.

The new official one is Rheingold's ISTA, which includes ISTA-D for diagnostic and ISTA-P for coding. Both of them, while not as bad as DIS, are rather cumbersome to set up. I've only used ISTA-D and can confirm that it's pretty easy to use, at least if you just want to see and clear error codes and don't mind how slow the scans are. It's supposed to provide technical information as well but I can't confirm that because it never worked properly for me.

The older suite is usually called "Standard Tools". It includes INPA for diagnostic, NCSExpert for coding and some other things nobody uses, like WinKFP for bricking your engine. All of these are bizarre Win95-era software programmed by insane Germans, translated into English by someone who doesn't speak it. Also, there's no official documentation for any of this shit and the BMW coding "community" is basically retards trying to teach retards how to do retarded things.

That said, take a look at these resources if you're interested:
- http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1220039 for a 120GB VM containing both ISTA and ST
- http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=918608 for a tutorial on how to install ST (do it in a VM. also, see the last page in the thread for some less shitty download links)
- https://mega.nz/#F!4pQjXRYb!YmZcD6u1taTxzmiCbn5TDA and http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=642883 to get the data files for your car

wrt cables, you can find USB ones marked "K+D CAN" on ebay for like $30. Mine came with an adapter for the round plug you find in older cars - I've used it to diagnose and code an E38.

>>17136913
holy fuck what size are those tires

>>17138340
>overweight
LS4 swap

>>17136943
>no center console arm rest, but you can buy one for the low price of $200 on ebay
Try spending $500 on an ashtray. If I'd waited another year or so I'd have been able to get a brand new repro for less than half that.

>>17137891
so don't buy one then anon. oh wait.

>>17137431
I wish it was RWD. It looks nice.

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>>17137073
Jeep feels best feels

My 99 WJ had the parking brake fail the other day (need to take out entire center console to fix), one window dosent work, tailgate has no manual lock (thanks Chrysler) and electric one has failed, battery drains if it sits for more than 3 days. If the windows are open it buffets like mad, wind pushes you all over the highway, loud as hell past 45.

I don't care, I wouldn't sell it for anything in the world.

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>>17137913
>SA
Vacuum Hoses
Won't Idle
apex seals
2-stroke
rat's nest

>>17136941
>not just getting a 960

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>>17136930
Hah, I swapped a 110 in mine, went about 62 before I got scared.

I got a spare 180 turbo engine in my barn, you want?

>>17140875
Forgot, rust and all the plastic disappearing.

>>17136832
parts are almost unobtainable even though it is built on a extremely popular chassis

>>17137972
have you at least made it rumble?

>>17141383
Nope. Gotta buy parts for my EJ205 swap

>>17136832
The decision to bore a 6.2, slap a turbo on it and put this unreliable piece of bog iron into a Suburban is absolutely retarded.

People think you're a huge faggot.

And they're probably right.

>>17141301
Let me guess, del sol?

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>>17136832
FA20DIT WRX
>Paint is ass and chips if you look at it wrong
>STI owners sneer at you (though you have the newer engine with direct injection, and they still have an 8 year old engine)
>electronic steering is not the best
>everyone makes vape jokes at you
>community is garbage
>looks like a honda

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>MacPherson front
>Engine made off of vtec-e platform so it burns really lean
>original owner has done a number of questionable shit that takes forever to explain
>Dimond ring was stuck to strut for some reason
>Paints weak
>drum rear brakes
>Srs light stuck on
>At

>>17141396
There's so many better engines then an ej205 to throw in there. Those came with the ej25d right? if you could find and old ej22t block you could use your heads with some ej20k cams, and save a bunch of money and be able to hold 3x the horsepower of a ej205.

I like the NA Miata and I have really wanted one since the first time I saw one in person. (About 2-3 years ago)

But let me start.
>no truck space
>no power
>homo/hairdresser magnet
>not a lot of room in the engine bay for stronger engines right off the bat
:^(

>>17141488
fox cougar

>>17140875
>recirculating ball steering
>my arms hurt

>>17141638
If I put in something that made more than an EJ205 could, that would become exponentially more expensive since I would need an STi 6 speed, custom driveshaft, r180 rear diff, 04 STi axles and hubs, etc. An EJ205 is almost completely bolt in. Just need the turbo crossmember and WRX subframe so the turbo and exhaust fits. My 5 speed manual transmission definitely won't take more than around 300hp, which is probably about where I'd draw the line anyway since I still want it to be daily drivable.

I already have a merged harness anyway for it anyway, which is probably the hardest part to get for the swap since it's a fucking nightmare to wire yourself and costs an assload of money to pay iWire to do it. Someone else was going back to stock to sell it and sold me the harness for $500, which is $250 less than just the service fee from iWire, not including the cost of a WRX harness, a spare Legacy harness, and shipping.

>>17138561

How'd you manage that? My 91 GT-S weighs 2695~ and with just a boost controller I've gotten up to 310whp, that's not all that slow to me.

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CRX (any year)
Literal Deathtrap

still miss mine though.

>>17141910
>deathtrap
Why?

Everytime i turn a corner i pray to god that i dont snal oversteer into a wall or off a mountaun face

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>>17137074
The fact it's faster than a miata triggers homosexuals.

>>17141931
if you hit something at any reasonable speed youre going to end up hurt, its a tin can thats smaller than pretty much every modern car

>>17141948
My car is much smaller, and I drive up to 175km/h on 155mm 14" prius tires...

>>17141931
anything other than front impact can pretty much kill you.
its the price to pay for a light weight car

>>17141961
>light weight
How much doés it weight?

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>>17141958
But was it made before 1996?

on the other hand they're roomy as hell because what are airbags

>>17141966
I can transport bicicles without any disasembly in my Aygo.

>>17141964
the model i owned 88 hf comes in at
1,819 lb or 825 kg if youre not into freedom units

>>17141975
Fuck, 50kg lighter than my car.

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The 3000GT experience is burning your money.
If you see one of these totaled, go run up to them and ask for parts. Because god knows you will not find parts anywhere else.
When it comes to holding power, anything over stock is going to eventually kill your motor.
Even a tiny dent in the oilpan will seize your engine.
It looks like a fish.

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>>17141983
just looked up the Aygo, damn that looks cute af

also to keep in topic with thread:
03 tacoma
> Base Model manual doesn't have an rpm gauge

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>corvette
Slower than the gtr

>turbo NA Miata

Since she had a blast test driving it, my wife instantly agreed to get it.

She's been bitching ever since how she'll only feel safe in a truck.

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>RX 8
Engine wants to explode
Eats oil and apex seals
Engine rebuild around 100k mi if you want to keep it around
I can probably think of a few more, but mine hasn't been too bad.

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unreliable heap

>and its still my dream car

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>e92 bmw 335i
HPFP is ass
non bmw owners look at you like a tool
m3 owners look at you like your vagina is showing

>>17136832
>RUF CTR
If it wasn’t for the the “Yellowbird” Nurburgring video from the 80’s and the Wangan Midnight comic series I wouldn’t care about this car.

>>17136832
>RX-7
Heat problems, and a rotary specialist is hard to find.
>LFA
Too fucking expensive.
>NSX
Unobtainium in my area.
>Miata
A bit too expensive for what it is, could have been a bit faster.
>Honda Fit
Could be faster
>Nissan Juke
Looks dumb
>Toyota bB/Scion xB
Everyone thinks it's a shitbox.
>Eunos Cosmo
It's fictional

>>17142159

>Burger tuning
Blow them m3s away.

>>17136983
Leave the mercs to the kikes

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>italian engineering; more complicated than it has to be
>isn't as powerful as it looks like

>>17137030
Cunt

>>17141939
>my favorite car wins because these statistics I chose to show

>>17142528
Another triggered snowflake.

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>interior is fucking dog shit, ancient Mayans could scavenge better materials to construct a nicer interior than Ford did.

>>17136913

IIRC those things are completely undrivable if you're over 6'.

I know the wops are all manlets, but it seems really stupid to limit your customer base like that.

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>>17136832
wrong wheel drive

>>17136832
>dodge daytona

...

>>17136832
AE86
>became weeb cuckbox
>they're old enough to require major work

>>17136854
>I know what i got
>electronic steering

>>17142976

Wops make pretty cars, not functioning ones.

The Ferrari Testarossa convinced me of that, basically impossible to get in and out of without knocking your head, given you're not a manlet yourself.

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almost nonexistant to find for a good price
almost nonexistant stock
rusting because bad protection
often beaten to shit
Turbo breaks after 160.000 Kilometers

>>17136832
>Stock engine is weak
>stock audio system sucks
>the transmissions 5th gear likes to pop out with age
>vacuum lines for days
>it's a pain to work in under the hood
Aw11 in a nutshell for the negatives

>>17142803
Im now imagining a Ford Mustang with an interior made of stone, jade, gold and alpaca leather.

>>17138353
They were ALL leases only so they never had right to own when contract ended. Insert "you never had me" jpg

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its a piece of shit

>>17136832
Seats don't go as far back as they used to in Civics (and all newer cars for that matter).

I'm 6'1". The seat in an '01 Civic goes so far back I have to scoot it up a little to push the clutch in all the way comfortably. The seat in a 2013 Civic doesn't go back as far as I would like it to, period.

>>17145263
the seat in my sanic goes way farther back than my 07 civic and hell farther back than it does in my 90 ford fseries.

6 foot 3 and with the seat in the sonic all the way back i cant even push the clutch to the floor

of course with the seat all the way back no one could ever be in the seat behind you

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>>17136832
Its a 4banger in a 3400lb cuck mobile.

>>17141710
US spec lists a 1991 hardtop turbo at a curb weight of 2860lbs.

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Unreliable oil drinking meme engine with garbage mileage.

Still love it.

>>17145205
Lol exactly. Least it wouldn't be shitty plastic.

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It's likely an electrical nightmare if something goes wrong
Costs 25k just for yearly maintenance, tires, etc.
It has a horrible fanbase. Seriously. GT-R fanboys are the worst. As much as I like the GT-R, I don't want to associate with those people.

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needs to be babied and have a bunch of modifications done to it for it to actually run reliably and with any kind of longevity.

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>>17146089
So tsundere~