What does he drive?

>>17126643
Hand-me-down Lincolns.

>>17126643

America, into the ground.

The rich and elite don't drive, they are driven.

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Ford Mustang

>>17126653
Bush did that. Obama had to pull it out of the ditch.

>>17126653
>cuts unemployment rate in half

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>>17126679
Nice!!

>>17126709
>>17126740
>>17126653
It was Bill Clinton actually.

Bush just didn't get anything done to prevent it.

Obama and the Democrat Congress added 9 trillion to the debt. Then Obama oversaw another 3 trillion debt as the Republicans took over.

Slowest economic recovery ever. the MSM is trying to make 3% GDP growth sound like it is fucking amazing.

>>17126643
he doesn't and the secret service wouldn't let him

he is going to spend the rest of his life in the back of a Black Chevy Suburban being driven by SS agents.

>>17126769
Who would even bother killing an ex president?

>>17126643
A Motor Vehicle. :^)

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>>17126643

>>17126740
*teleports behind you*

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Biden is a cool guy

>>17126778
People are crazy

>>17126761
Bush tried but was thwarted by a blue congress. Remember the housing collapse. Bush warned congress three times and the republicans introduced legislation, but it got shot down because the dems were making too much under the table money from Fannie and Freddie.

>>17126796
he was also busy starting unnecessary wars.

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>>17126813
>btfo dunecoons
>unnecessary

>>17126813
then Obama, the "peace president", starts bombing the crap out of pakistan, yeman, libyra, syria, and somalia.

while letting China take dozens of islands in the south china sea, and russia taking crimea.

>>17126826
Also letting Chinese claiming just about all the mineral rights in africa

>>17126643
>What does he drive?
What do you think a black man with money drives?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7XSoWv6p1E

Come on now guys, as if the US ever had an actually good president

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>>17126826
>one atrocity makes another one acceptable!
americans......

>>17126849
Carter, Eisenhower, Andrew Jackson, Grant, Teddy Roosevelt, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson

>>17126875
>Good

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>>17126875
>jimmy carter
LOL.

>he fell for the trickle down economics meme
Republicans.....

>>17126826
Ironically enough he may have killed more Africans than any other POTUS

>>17126834
of fucking course lol

also

>$1,000,000

lol

>>17126884
Carter's deregulation and economic policy actually brought down the Soviet Union and helped the prosperity of the 80s.

Reagan just gave his buddies trillions in military spending and never plan to pay off the debt.

>>17126875
>Jackson

Lel. Dumbass Southerner didn't think a national note was a good idea

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>>17126783
Lmao!!

>>17126740
>previously full time employee laid off and gets two part time jobs
>Look everyone America cut the unemployment in half!

>>17126826

when you declare a war on terror, you better make sure you pull out all the stops on one of the world's largest terrorist organizations

also, china dredged those islands.

and they imposed billions of dollars of sanctions against russia, what more do you expect anyone to do?

>>17126653
>>17126709
>>17126740
what if i told you there are just economic cycles that occur regardless of who is president and what party is in power? ups and downs are just part of the capitalist society.

>>17128026
I'd say you're a fucking idiot

>>17128026

I'd say that we fell right into a preventable recession because of blind greed. It would be nice if we had some -regulation- before the world had to eat dirt.

Thankfully now we have some stopgaps to prevent another mortgage disaster (until the GOP fucks us on that one), so now we only have to look forward to the student lending bubble, the advertisement bubble, and the boomer bubble (not really a bubble though, just a time of market uncertainty).

>>17128034
It's true. Humans are retarded.

When the going is good, people get shit loads of loans and mortgages. Usually living day to day. Then some sort of thing happens, layoffs, stock market crashes, or people simply can't pay up. It's all a domino effect. People learn, they start saving, stop making loans, things start picking up again and it repeats.

There was a dip in the 30's, 50's, 80's, and 00's . Along with some housing bubbles and the .com bubble.

>>17126643
No joke, when he was a senator in illinois prior to going to the white house, Obama drove a 2005 Chrysler 300, because of course he has to have one

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/president-barack-obamas-2005-chrysler-300c/#slide-207267

>>17127956
Russia doesn't care about sanctions. also they didn't cut off what really matters in russian exports, oil and gas.

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>>17126783

>>17126643
A Chrysler 300, or Dodge Charger, or Pontiac Gran Prix.

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>>17128034
You should read das kapital

>>17128248

ah yes, Marx..the father of the modern neckbeard

>>17128061
Then how do u explain the fact that the stock market has gone way up since literally the day trump was elected?

>>17128285

because he's still riding on the ripples of obama's financial prowess.

8000 to 20000 in 8 years

let's see where the market is at in a year from now.

>>17128170
not gonna lie i expected more chrome

>>17128285
stock increases != economic growth
sears downsized their store count as a result of loosing market share, and their stock prices went up.

>>17128297
It has been going up for months now

You're a typical retard liberal. Go move to California and join up with those other antifa degenerates so you can land in a jail cell with Jamal and Tyrone

>>17128311
They cut cost by closing under performing stores, why wouldn't their stock go up? Better than keeping them open because Obama wants to give out glorified welfare via shit part time jobs

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>>17128316

Show me on the graph where President Trump touched you.

It's been going up for YEARS thanks to some defensive financial moves from the executive branch back in 2009-2010.

When will conservatives learn that the way to a strong economy is through taxing the rich and keeping a tight hold on banking?

I mean seriously, the last time we balanced the Federal Budget was thanks to George H.W. Bush's tax increases, and the economy during the 1990s was booming because of it.

>>17126740
Misleading statistics 101

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>>17128341
>When will conservatives learn that the way to a strong economy is through taxing the rich and keeping a tight hold on banking?
Jesus Christ, why are there so many pussy faggot college liberals on fucking 4Chan now? You people are ruining this site

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>>17128263
Its okay anon, one day you'll leave the basement and talk with the top economist in a big firm, and it will surprise you what they'll tell you about the fee-good economics of Friedman and Böhm-Bawerk

>>17128285
>Pricing bubbles = value growth
Lmao senpai

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>>17128379
>>17128316
Look, we found an autist

>>17128379

Oh please call me more names.

I voted for Kasich btw

>>17128418
Like I said, pussy faggot liberals

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>>17128341
It doesn't help that the U.S government wastes billions a year pursuing the "war on drugs".

When will people learn that prohibition literally NEVER works?

>>17128432
It works to keep degenerates like you in jail

Not everyone wants their kid to be a drug using trashbag like you

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>>17128444
>it works
lol, i needed that laugh

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>>17128444
>You are of the same specie as basement dweller autists like this

Why, I could have been something cool like a cobra

>>17128432

Considering we were within a couple years of federal marijuana decriminalization before Commando Trump stepped into office with his self-righteous agenda, I think you guys need to look into your ballot options for next year.

>>17128449
>>17128454
Oh right I forgot, spring break is this week. How's high school going for you kiddos?

>>17128468
doesn't disprove my point. War on drugs is as stupid as California's cigarette tax. All you retards are doing is inadvertently creating a black market.

don't worry, you'll reap what you sow.

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>>17128468
I am not in high school, but what is wrong with spring break, are you such a low functioning autist that you dont have anyone to spring break with?

>>17128458
I don't think Trump cares much about marijuana, but that old fart who really needs to die already (Jeff Sessions) is really against it

>>17128475

Trump just praised Duterte as an effective leader, a man that has killed over 8,000 people to date in drug-related crimes. Not like trafficking or anything, for shit like possession.

Not to mention Trump prides himself on being sober for most (all?) of his life.

Contrast that to a couple years ago when the head of the DEA said he wouldn't be pursuing any grow operations in states that had decriminalized marijuana.

>>17128492
Well why would he if the nigger in chief is telling him to ignore the law? Because that's what Obama did for a large portion of his presidency, but the msm of course doesn't talk about it whatsoever

>>17128500

Because some laws are meant to be ignored. Not all laws are just or even effective, they're just rules that a select group of people saw as necessary for one reason or another.

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>>17128341
>When will conservatives learn that the way to a strong economy is through taxing the rich and keeping a tight hold on banking?

Absolutely retarded. When will people realize that the main reason for their poverty or money shortages are either laziness/being a dumb ass/socialism itself?

>>17128629
the real reason people are poor is because shareholders and inversionists keep part of the value they generate

t. Investor that doesnt work yet get paid

Good thing the average joe is as brute as you

>>17128492
Duterte has no issues with medical marijuana. It's meth and the like that he's after

>8,000
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/04/21/1692511/abella-calls-7000-extrajudicial-killings-fake-news

>>17128635
First off, it's their money, so who gives a fuck what they do with it? I don't tell you what to do with your money
>Big greedy capitalists! They just keep all the money for themselves and don't use it to help people!
>Damn large corporations putting Mickey D's and Wal-Marts everywhere!
Fucking pick one, I'm so tired of you people

Investors make money by not "working" because they provide the money and take a gamble or chance with their money

>>17128636

Oh his own spokesperson said the claims were unverified, how convenient.

https://www.hrw.org/report/2017/03/01/license-kill/philippine-police-killings-dutertes-war-drugs

Human Rights Watch says over 7,000 by March. Here's what Duterte himself has to say.

"Hitler massacred three million Jews. Now, there are three million drug addicts. I’d be happy to slaughter them. If Germany had Hitler, the Philippines would have (me)."
-Duterte

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>>17128647
>Investors make money by not "working" because they provide the money and take a gamble or chance with their money
Lmao, what did I told you

I can afford not work and afford several luxuries aswell all because I invested some money years ago, and I dont gamble nor chance my money because if the hedgefun fucks it I'll sue them

Keep drinking that kool-aid

>>17128647

It's not really a gamble if you also own the lawmarkers, the advertising firms, and buy out the competition.

I'll never understand sympathy for rich people. We step over homeless people in the streets, feel sorta sad when an old lady loses her house, but suddenly we all have to cry because some corporation is taking on new taxes.

>>17128673
Moreover, its not our money because the money I "reinvest" is just money I ended up receiving of past investmemts, which I didn't work for

>>17128663
I don't really understand your English and I don't think you understand

>>17128673
>The lawmakers
Vote them out
>Advertising Firms
Expose them for advertising someone bad, or pay them to advertise their rival, it's a business and they want money
>the competition
Well of course people try to buy out the competition, it only makes sense to want to do as a business owner

>We step over homeless people in the streets, feel sorta sad when an old lady loses her house, but suddenly we all have to cry because some corporation is taking on new taxes

That's because it's their fault they're poor or it happens 75% of the time, sure it sucks, but why do we have to forcefully rob people just because they do well?

>>17128678
Investing IS work though, one or two wrong investments and you're poor and lost your job

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>>17128686
>Investing is working

Lol no, that is done by the hedgefunds and the banks, the one that loses his job is the guy working for them, and I do not lose money either, because in the case of a terrible loss the government will pay back, or else we invest in another country

So naive, this is why you dont fall for the bourgeois feel-good lies of hard work = money

>>17128697
>the government will pay back, or else we invest in another country
I've been arguing that government in economics is the problem all along, I'm glad we agree. If they stop doing this then it's all good

Go to Venezuela you faggot, I haven't been calling you names or anything, but you can't seem to stop. Go kill yourself

>>17128686

>vote them out
Yes, so easy

>Expose them
For legal work? There's nothing wrong with advertising, even if you don't agree with the company.

A lot of this has to deal with Person A having more cash than Person B, so Person A has more logistical leverage than Person B in just about every societal area.

>Invest IS work

You're crazy if you think most wealthy people actively control their own investments. They have a vague idea of what is in the books, might play around in the markets for fun, but the real cash is holed up in 401k's, IRAs, and mutual funds that are backed by investments from a firm like Morgan Stanley or BofA.

People that 'lose it all' aren't very common in today's economic world. The economy for the rich is still booming, so if you own stock in anything worth its salt, you're set until the next bubble bursts.

>>17126740
>people looking for jobs go on welfare
>unemployment rate drops
Zddd

>>17128704

>government in economics is the problem all along

oh yes, let a bunch of greedy people play with the economic livelihoods of everyone for their own gain. i can't WAIT to relive 2007-2009

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>>17128704
Why would I go to venezuela when I profit from exploiting dumbasses like you???

>If they stop doing this then it's all good
They wont, because big investment firms buy government officials, law is legal fiction

>The government is the problem
Lets see, dumb ancap, who will stablish and defend property rights without a government?

Lmao, frustrated as fuck he fell for the feel-good economics drivel

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>>17128706
>Yes, so easy
It's called informed voting, I know it's hard but it's do-able

>A lot of this has to deal with Person A having more cash than Person B, so Person A has more logistical leverage than Person B in just about every societal area.
Start a group or something, or obviously people don't care enough about it making it not a widespread seen issue

>You're crazy if you think most wealthy people actively control their own investments. They have a vague idea of what is in the books, might play around in the markets for fun, but the real cash is holed up in 401k's, IRAs, and mutual funds that are backed by investments from a firm like Morgan Stanley or BofA.
Right, and I don't think it's right that they have or keep all their money, but IT IS THEIR MONEY. I don't want people to forcefully have their money taken, that is just as immoral.

>>17128709
> let a bunch of greedy people play with the economic livelihoods of everyone for their own gain
That's called them expanding their business/businesses and creating jobs you nigger

>>17128711
vote them out
>Lets see, dumb ancap, who will stablish and defend property rights without a government?
Not Ancap, ancaps are retards that go a bit too far I think. I only want the government to do their rightful job, and that doesn't include redistribution of income or mudding up the market

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>>17128725
And his rightful job is to protect the bourgeoisie, the propietor, not the worker or the propertyless

Please do keep drinking that kool-aid

>>17126643
>What does he drive?
countries into the ground

>>17128725

Man, you really don't understand anything about the world do you? How old are you, 16, 17? Do you even pay your own rent/mortgage?

jew dick

>>17128733
>>17128737
I'm pretty immune to bait and this retarded shit you're pulling for laughs. Good try

Idk why I even try discussing this shit anymore, I'm just so fucking tired of the constant 24/7 bant

>>17128734

see

>>17128341

you guys all just hate obama because he's black, and refuse to accept that he was an okay president.

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>>17128744
He's black? No, he is a nigger

>>17128742

You should stop discussing this stuff when you didn't even pay income tax the last time the economy went belly-up. It's obvious you don't have a grasp on any sort of economics.

>>17128744
>you guys all just hate obama because he's black
you are assuming things anon & that is not right.

>>17128742
>Facts are bait


Lololol

Its going to hard when it hits you

>>17128746
I'm pretty conservative and typically vote Republican, but Jesus Christ images like this are fucking retarded. Anybody can cherry pick statistics to make any president look good or bad, it's meaningless and just shows how much of an ignorant fuckwit you are.

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>>17128755
Yeah? Show me something good he did then, I'm all fine with that if you can. The negatives outweigh the positives

>>17128746
how much of that could be blamed on increasing automation in the workforce

>>17128757
http://www.economist.com/news/special-report/21700758-will-smarter-machines-cause-mass-unemployment-automation-and-anxiety

anyone who thinks that the president has any real effect on jobs and job creation should read this. it details how automation will change the workforce forever

>>17128757
It doesn't matter, most of what he did helped fuck people out of real jobs and making them either food stamp recipients or making them work 2 or 3 part timers

>>17128764

how so? by requiring companies to give health insurance to full time employees? so instead the companies just axed their full time workers?

it sounds more like the companies should be to blame.

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>>17128756
>show me something he good he did
I would say gay marriage but that was the Supreme Court.

In all seriousness, he released tons of non violent drug offenders from federal prison right before office. But I'm disappointed in him because if he really cared he should of released them on day one or long before.

>>17128767
Or it's the government's fault because they're making unrealistic demands to smaller businesses?

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>>17128762
This was explained by a german economist almost 200 years ago tho, just read das kapital

>>17128770
Fair enough, I'm cool with that. But that isn't enough to justify starting more shit in the desert areas and hurting the economy more and shit

>>17128774
And was learned to be horseshit many times over

>>17128771

Then how do you justify companies like Wal Mart? They should have plenty of ability to insure their workforce but instead they just cut down the hours people were working.

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>>17128786
>Capitalism proved to be horseshit

Yes actually, or do you think das kapital is a book about communism? as I told you before some people spend all day working while I reap the benefits simply because of the fact that the government defends my investments, just as marx pointed out

You've never read das kapital, so why do you even respond lmao

>>17128789

Or...the Waltons who are worth a collective $149billion dollars, would rather keep watching their own pockets fill up rather than ever give their employees something so trivial as health insurance.

This is why I have no sympathy for the rich. Tax them. Tax the fuck out of them.

>>17128804
B-but they are the job creators!!!!

Reminder the name fag is a mexican (with a hard x)

>>17128789
Right, so blame the govt for imposing those rules on Wal Mart, therefore it's the govt's fault for the cut hours.

Why does a company HAVE to provide those things? The government is just meddling in the market which makes things worse.

>>17128804
>would rather keep watching their own pockets fill up rather than ever give their employees something so trivial as health insurance.
It's their business, who cares? They donate. They pay their employees half decent for the work they do.

You people don't see that forcefully taking people money = being a frugal dickhead, it's all immoral

>>17128812
*citation needed*

>>17128815
>Why does a company habe to act morally and insure their workers?
>W-What?!? Taxing them is immoral!!

Lol

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>>17128833
I wasn't talking to you you fucking communist cunt. You had your chance and you just kept being retarded. I'm talking to someone that genuinely has decent points and seems interested, go fuck yourself commie swine, you should've been purged

>>17128815

>they donate

https://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/06/03/report-walmarts-billionaire-waltons-give-almost-none-of-own-cash-to-family-foundation/#5df0e19e7d52

Not all of them.

>The report goes on to detail how the Foundation has been funded over the years, namely by tax-avoiding trusts established with assets provided by the late Sam, Helen and John Walton or their estates. The study found that 99% of the Foundation's contributions since 2008 have been channeled through 21 Charitable Lead Annuity Trusts. These CLATs, as they're known, are specifically designed to help ultra-wealthy families avoid estate and gift taxes.

Again, you don't understand how any of this shit fucking works. These 'foundations' and 'charities' are literally just shell non-profit corporations that can tunnel the millions right back into these people's pockets. It's not like they're riding through Harlem giving out scholarships to kids or through West Virginia helping old mining towns out with their crushing poverty. They throw a couple million in the pot, let their accountant and lawyers run it through the financial system, and eventually they get it back in a nice check for some 'work well done'.

You are so willfully ignorant of how this system works, how can you really defend these people for being 'job creators'. do you know why they create jobs? so you and all of your peers can go to work for $7.50-$11 an hour and do all the shit work that they don't want to do, all so they can ride back and forth from Arkansas to Monaco and enjoy the luxuries of life that you never will.

Don't forget, these people haven't worked a day in their lives. They show up to meetings, sign a few papers, and let the accountants do the rest.

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>>17128835
>This assmad
I am not a communist, I read Marx, invested moey and now I am a NEET that doesnt have to work because I leech off the workers

God bless capitalism

>>17128815
I'll never understand the mentality of people who support big business
Kiss ass all you want they will never let you join their "inner circle"

A small business owner busts his ass own 60+ hours a week and pays his employees as well as he possibly can, benefits, leave and sick days, loading rates, lojg service leave etc... he is taxed to the tune of 30%+
A company like Apple uses save labor and pays less than 1% corporate tax.

Explain how that isn't immoral

>>17128842
Then that's a shame, they SHOULD donate, I'm sure there's a group somewhere, or you can boycott if you care that much. Sucks but it's their money sadly.

>do you know why they create jobs? so you and all of your peers can go to work for $7.50-$11 an hour and do all the shit work that they don't want to do
WOW, IT'S LIKE THEY CREATE AN ADULT AGREEMENT! YOU DO X FOR ME, AND X MAKES ME MONEY, I'LL GIVE YOU MONEY FOR DOING X, IS THIS ACCEPTABLE? IF NOT YOU CAN GO THOUSANDS OF OTHER PLACES FOR THIS MONEY

>>17128844
Checked, and I DON'T agree with that, that's retarded. It should be a flat tax

>>17128847
Why should a small business that puts back into the communuty pay the same rate of tax as a multi billion dollar company that uses slave labor?

>>17128847

Man, you are so brainwashed. Watch The Big Short, it will re-instill your faith in big business and the way our economic system works. It's on netflix, it's a nice feel-good movie.

>>17128847
>A flat tax will stop them from evading taxes

Lel!

>>17128852
Because it's fair, why should they be forced to pay more?
>they use slave labor
Ok, but forcing a company to pay extra is cool, but providing a source of capital for willing and consenting people is evil? I'm confused

>>17128854
You find them evading taxes, expose it and boycott. There are ways around this

>>17128853
Friedman is rolling in his grave

>>17126643
>WOW, IT'S LIKE THEY CREATE AN ADULT AGREEMENT! YOU DO X FOR ME, AND X MAKES ME MONEY, I'LL GIVE YOU MONEY FOR DOING X, IS THIS ACCEPTABLE? IF NOT YOU CAN GO THOUSANDS OF OTHER PLACES FOR THIS MONEY
And then we all end up working 16 hour days for a bowl of rice

Kill yourself cuck

>>17128859
>People will stop buying on firms that evade taxation

Lel!

>>17128026
This is dumb. The housing crisis occurred in part due to deregulation. Sure, nobody fully controls the economy but we can do lots of things to influence it.

>>17128862
Not the companies' fault that you have two kids and didn't go get a trade job or something, you willingly accepted the job and work there. It's a market, go somewhere else if you can, if not you just have to power through it.

That's why capitalism is beautiful, it's survival of the fittest, Darwinism in it's purest.

>>17128867
>People will always buy from corrupt company A, even though Company B does the same thing and isn't corrupt

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>and then he said Friedman

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>>17128872
There are retards that keep buying GM cars after all the issues

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>>17128873
I'm done replying to you. Go fuck yourself you commie spic

>>17128872
>That's why capitalism is beautiful, it's survival of the fittest, Darwinism in it's purest.

Case in point anon

>>17128875
Yeah, I agree. I'd NEVER buy a GM car

>>17126643
Although to tie it back to OP he probably drives a fuckin Gold plated caddy

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>>17128876
I already told you several times I am not a communist, communism implies liberating retards like you from the law of value, and that is true evil
I want retards like you to stay exploited. Darwinism in its purest form

>>17128883
Maybe I'm just envious of the NEET life, poncho, but I don't think I could do it. I have to go wagecuck now and pay my way through university, thanks for ruining my night, but I haven't had my free marker boner in a long time, so thank I guess

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>>17128888
>I get cucked by capitalists
>Yeah well its the American way®

The problem is that you have been taught not to love yourself, either by your parents or by society, and you do not want tonbe happy, its a typical case of sadomasochism

There is nothing else I can do for you buddy, it's sad people end up as cucked by the bourgeoisie as you, but life sucks

>>17128872
There are still big companies paying tradesmen with 20+ years experience the absolute minimum they can

You sound like a neet who has never held a job and has taken a stupid position on workers right for the sake of being contrarian and in opposition of le silly college liberal commies

Henry Ford introduced a 40 hour work week and payed his employees double what rival companies did
He was a hero
Everyone at the time hated him, except for the workers
Do you hate Henry Ford? Are you a dodge brothers kike?

>>17126657
Yap.
I wouldn't be able to live without driving, what a shitty life

>>17126709
>9 trillion dollarydoos later

go to bed Alphonse you braindead negro

>>17128918
Of course not you nigger.

Henry Ford is amazing, he did what everyone SHOULD do, he treated his employees with respect and such. Ford is the perfect example of the free market; if you treat your people like shit, then they won't work hard or you won't find somebody to do the work because they'll go work for the Dodge Kikes because they get payed more. No government needed, if there's a finite number of workers that'll do something as simple as assembly line work, then he who offers the best will get the best. You don't like a fucking government to say what to do.

Do people not fucking understand what I'm arguing? I don't like people being exploited, but it's THEIR CONSENT, when the government steps in and makes a business do such WITHOUT consent such as minimum wage or force them to provide something, it's horseshit