THINGS YOU FEEL LIKE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED

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>>17109675
Are you even trying?

>>17109681
It's another "I don't understand anything about the car market" episode

>>17109675
Why would FCA discontinue what makes them money?

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>>17109681
>>17109694
> MR roadster
> Another AWD anything comparable to WRX
> AWD 392 Hemi Challenger

>>17109675
>86 discountinued
Don't worry. It's just a matter of time.

>390Z
Not happening. Nissan has publicly stated that they're prioritizing other faggotry.

>Dodge Charger/300, Challenger platform discountinued
Why would this happen? Boomers and n*ggers keep buying them.

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>>17109700
It's a great seller no doubt. But it's 2.5 ton single digit MPG city, maybe 20 MPG hwy landbarge. The last of its kind - it will not pass fuel efficiency or safety standards in a few years.

*Maybe they retool and go all aluminum or some bullshit, shave half a ton, and make these til the 2030s.

>>17109675
>Mitsubishi going out of business
>Awd 4cyl turbo sports car from Toyota

That's all I got.

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>>17109675
Bitchez!!

>>17109744
Honda would capture a huge market from subaru if they put the AWD from the Acura TLX into an Accord. Not that fake ass AWD they put into the CRV's and shit

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>>17109730
The Giulia from one one their parent company brands has a V6TT sedan that makes more power, is faster, better MPG, and weighs less than a 392.

It hits all the Charger/Challenger price points in cheaper models too.

>>17109675
Discontinue Civic/Accord coupes and revive the Prelude.

>>17109675
1.) An actual production mid engine Corvette so they can compete with ford gt (and fail likely)
2.) Supra revival
3.) Pontiac solstice and G8 GXP prices to come down
4.) Mazda to even seem like they're trying to compete in the hp race
5.) Mercedes to build cars to incredibly high standards like before and reestablishing the marque, then go a decade glueing them together again and rake profits from idiots (again)

>>17109675
Boyracer: the post

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>>17109771
This. When is Honda gonna stop fucking around
>turbo
>AWD
>Honda
>VTAAAK
ALL THE PIECES ARE THERE JUST DO IT

>>17109740

Why do all that when they can just lie about emissions and make borderline fraudulent fuel economy ratings? They already do and so does pretty much everyone else. It's like steroids in professional sports. C'mon just try it I'll bet you'll love it, nah man don't tell the EPA I thought you were a bro not a snitch, weak dude, weak.

>China flooding the market with literal clones of classic drivers cars

>>17109787
Oh and >>17109771 reminding me of another...
6.) Honda to finally make a rwd accord coupe

>>17109791
It needs to be the SH AWD. That amazing AWD platform is arguably better than Subaru's. But Honda refuses to use it for anything other than TLX's and their Acura SUV's and shit. The CRV's have this garbage ass clutch differential that fails when it overheats because it literally generates no torque, then quits

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>>17109790

>>17109675
Toyota to keep pretending to make a Supra replacement and then at next auto show unveil a 2000GT revival and shock everyone

>>17109675
Why would Nissan make a 390z?
Even if they were to go with a larger engine, why a 3.9 liter?
If Nissan wants to release another fairlady it should, and probably would be another 300.
A major complaint is that the 350 and 370 are so large, and with fuel and emissions standards you're going to be seeing turbos and or smaller engines.
If they made a good looking 300z with an inline six that weighed under 3200lbs and came in manual, I would heavily consider buying one.

>>17109848
If they make the engine smaller it will sound really fucking gay. I say go full retard and do 450Z. Time for those slopes to make a proper muscle car.

>>17109879
did you even read his post?

>>17109893
Yes. I regret nothing.

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>>17109848
Yes the trend is downsizing.

It won't be I6, probably a tuned up version of the 300hp 3.0 TTV6 in Infiniti models.

>>17109923
The last line was just me daydreaming.
I can't stand V6's.
They're shit to work on and generally sound worse than an inline 6.
Their advantages don't even show in a sports car application, you have no idea how devastated I was when he R35 was a v6.
I understand the R&D costs of a new inline 6 from nissan wouldn't make sense for a mid range sports car, but a nigga can dream.

>>17109675
>5.0/5.2 twin turbo from Ford

wont happen because it would hurt shelby

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lol 2/10 half-assed bait thread.

>>17109893
LMFAO!!!

>>17110179
fapfapfap

>>17109675
>>17109730

>86 discontinued
This is honestly my dream car, drove it last year and loved every second of it. But I don't graduate from college for another year or two and I want to buy one new. I would be really sad if it was discontinued before then.

>inb4 you're a cuck
Fuck off, I love the car. Sorry you're poor.

>>17109771
>Fake-ass awd in the CRV

You mean 4WD? You realize there is a difference between 4WD and AWD?

> Dodge Charger/300, Challenger platform discountinued

Wow its as if you're actually retarded.

Thanks for the bait.

GM made a turbo 4 roadster. It was the Kappa platform. In Europe they also had whatever the Opel Speedster platform was too.

>all this American shit
Where is my Mondeo RS

>>17110285
>Sorry you're poor
This is such a lazy defense for the 86. A fucking server at Chili's can finance a $25k car.

>>17110316
A homeless person can finance too. However, they can't afford it. If the car is worth more than a third of your salary. You can't afford it.

>>17110292
The difference between 4WD and AWD:
4WD is a part-time system
4WD has a transfer case (not a center differential)
CRV: does not have a transfer case
Therefore: CRV is not 4WD
QED

>>17110335
>A homeless person can finance too
Wouldn't be surprised. I got my $10,000 loan without proof of income.

>If the car is worth more than a third of your salary. You can't afford it.
Lmao. So you're saying you must make at least $75k/yr to afford a Toyota 86? Where did you find this rule? Some article you read?

Listen. If it fits into your personal budget, you can afford it. Period.

>>17110381
That's not smart, AT ALL. You think it's smart to finance a car for 10 years? No it's not, you can't afford it. Take an accounting class and you learn budgeting real quick and what you can and can't not afford. The general rule has always been 1/3 of your salary OR can finance in 3 years or a MAX of 5 years though that's pushing it. You severely lack a sense of money.

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>>17109675
Isnt pic related habbening?

>>17110420
What is that? A Malibu hatch? Looks like it's gonna suck.

>>17110403
>You think it's smart to finance a car for 10 years?
Do you not know what a down payment is? Jeezus.

>Take an accounting class
I did you stupid fuck. Barely showed up and still managed to pull an A in financial and a B in managerial.

>You severely lack a sense of money
Lol. Wtf does this even mean?

>>17109675
>Turbo 4 roadster from Ford/GM
I unironically want to see something like this
it's not really an American thing though, needs at least a V6

>>17110425
Its a Cruze RS hatch, and IIRC, it is coming to Trumpistan.

>>17110432
>Barely showed up
So you didn't learn budgeting. Makes sense why your asking "wtf does this even mean?".

Please learn some fiscal sense. I have seen a multiple people file for bankruptcy because they have financial smarts similar to yours. Buying things they simply can't afford, like cars and houses.

>>17110454
Also IIRC it will come with a CVT, which means it will inevitably suck

>>17110457
>thinks budgeting is some elusive skill only taught by college professors
My god you try sooo hard to sound smarter than you really are. Pathetic. You have no idea what I can and can't afford, so don't project the misfortune of your loser friends onto me. K, thanks.

>>17110490
It seems a college professor really does need to teach you. One of 2 things will happen to you if you continue like this. Bankruptcy, or retire with next to no money. I wish you the best of luck.

>>17110503
>It seems a college professor really does need to teach you
What exactly? That countless people finance a car worth more than 1/3 of their income, somehow manage to pay all their bills just fine, and still have money left over to do fun things?

>I wish you the best of luck
No you don't. You're just wanking to your self-proclaimed wisdom.

>>17110539
As I said, best of luck.

>>17109675
Nice blog anon.

>>17110552
Wait! You don't have any more rules to regurgitate from your accounting textbook? What was that one about reporting income only when it is earned... Oh never mind :-)

Ah! And enjoy being BTFO.

>>17110458
A 6sp Manuel is an option though.

And the RS isn't going to be the "hothatch" one.

The SS will be.

>>17110381
You're pretty retarded mate. Anything can fit in your personal budget if you want it to. Doesn't mean you can afford it.

Electric roadster with a decent amount of power and range meant for the track. Fucking acceleration in a straight line is stupid waste of electric performance car possibilities

Speed academy did a video on a shop building a Tesla drive train in an evora.

>>17110420
I doubt that GM would continue an Opel platform. They just got rid of the entire R&D that went into that car.

>>17110803
>Electric roadster with a decent amount of range
impossible unless you consider a 2t monster still a roadster. The electric SLS has a range 15 minutes on a track and batteries have not improved one bit since then.

>>17110829
okay maybe roadster isn't the right word, but something more GT but handles well? idk

heres the vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDu9HpPD8VY

>>17110761
Tell me... What exactly is your definition of affording something?

>>17110854
For a car, being able to make enough for the down payment in only 2-3 months where you will get a monthly rate of less than $400 for 60 months. And the down payment can not break the bank.

>>17110873
Dude. It's not that hard to get a monthly payment of like $200/mo. Just save for a big down payment. Are you retarded?

Why do you have to make the down payment in 2-3 months? That's pretty autistic.

>>17110891
That's called affording. It's not autistic holy shit. You have a pretty shitty habits it seems. The other guy couldn't convince your nor could I.

>>17110904
No. Affording a car is simply being able to make the payments and still meet all your other financial obligations and basic needs. You're over complicating it.

>>17110917
So if I make $1000 a week. And my expenses are $600 and car payment is $400 a week, leaving me nothing. Is that car affordable? By your definition it is because I still met my other financial obligations.

>>17109675
>> Turbo 4 roadster from Ford/GM
Agreed, GM should bring the Kappa back, and Ford should stick the 2.3 Ecoboost into something F U N.
>> Dodge Charger/300, Challenger platform discountinued
They're moving to the Giulia platform in 2020/2021.
>> Direct-injected 427 or 454 from GM
The LS7 will eventually get the LT treatment. If not, you can already stroke the LT1 to about that size.
>> 5.0/5.2 twin turbo from Ford
GT500 soon stalker.

>>17110934
No, because having zero financial buffer obviously doesn't meet your basic needs. You're being a smartass.

>>17109774
Here's what they're doing in 2020:
>Move the Challenger/Charger/300 to a stretched Giulia platform
>Add V8

Here's what they should do
>Same as above
>Add aluminium block, cam-in-cam VVT, direct injection to the Hemi. Suddenly, the 6.4 can make as much power n/a as that V6TT.
>Add ~757 hp Hellcat engine to Giulia, making the Giulia SS

>>17110940
That's what I'm trying to tell you. After the payment, you still need to have a *majority* of your money remaining. That's I gave you the 2-3 months and $400 for 5 years figure, because that allows you a good buffer. Anything more and the buffer is unfeasible. Increasing the length of the payments also isn't good because you will be paying significantly more than the car is worth.

>>17109848
>Inline six
It's like you want a bad CoG.

>>17110314
Speedster was just an Elise though.

>>17110948
You're overthinking it. If you can make the payments and still enjoy a reasonable quality of life, you can afford the damn car. Creating some worst-possible-case scenario where I have zero left in the bank after my expenses is retarded. A financial buffer is implied.

>>17110948
You're also completely ignoring the possibility of saving for a larger down payment so you don't have to pay $400/mo and drag out the loan for 60 months.

>>17110974
This

Saving only 2-3 months for a down payment is stupid bullshit

>>17110420
GM just sold Opel, no Astra VXR/OPC for America.

>>17109675
>86 gets an STI/GT-Four treatment (i.e. turbo and AWD)

>>17109675
Hot hatch Hyundai i20, they have a rally team ffs.

>>17110420
That's a vw golf, son.

>>17111081
I can't tell if you're memeing or stupid.

>>17110355
>actually knowing something on /o/ and not just using aggressive phrasing to try and make yourself sound right
You must be new here.

>>17109675
>when you bae let you push the foreign

What the fuck does this even mean?

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>get a gf
>lose virginity
>feel happy again

>>17111172
When yo[ur] [significant other] let[s] you [drive] the [non-domestic automobile]

So, considering that this female is most likely American, as females from every other country wouldn't be this bad at forming a sentence, the fact that she doesn't know that Cadillac is an American, therefore domestic brand is thusly further evidence of her stupidity, on a comedic level.

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>>17109970
Nigga they would call it the Shelby GT500

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>>17110298
It's 10+ year old platform built on an even older 20+ yo retired Mercedes Benz chassis.

>>17110381
Thats not affording it senpai.

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>>17110403
You sound fucking retarded. So everyone making $100,000 should settle for an Accord or at besy a base Mustang GT?

Maybe you meant a 1/3 your monthly income? A Walmart cart boy, or a car wash attendant, or a 16yo hostess at a restraunt - ANYBODY making at least minimum wage could afford a $25k GT86 financed for 5 years.

>>17111522
That... is a fucking great pic.

>>17110403
It's not smart if all you care about is money, I happen to care more about driving than money and put most of my money towards enhancing my driving experience. Would it be smarter for me to be miserable

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>>17111028
The turbo is imposibru because the exhuast plumbing is already barely wedges in, the AWD is really out of the question because the whole front of the car is a cluster fuck - no space for drivetrain.

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>Brad, 25, entry level gig making $15hr /30k yr - takes home $2000 /m
>Rents $600 /m shitty efficiency apartment
>Spends $500 /m on utilities, groceries, protein powder, Axe body spray
> $300 /m gas and insurance
> $500 /m 2017 Mustang GT financed for 84 months and Brad's $1000 tax return as down payment
> $100 left over for weed and to take /o/'s bitch to Applebee's.

>ferd/mazda relationship rekindled to stick a single-rotor range extender into a pigfat fiesta EV
>rotary Ecoboost moostang

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>>17111659
MEANWHILE:
> /o/tist, 34, IT gig making $45hr /90k yr - takes home $6000 /m
>Mortgaged $1200 /m new house so hopefully mom will move in when dad dies of AIDS.
>Spends $1000/m on utilities, Taco Bell, Japanese gift boxes, hentai
> $300 /m gas and insurance
> $500 1986 Honda Civic with over 200k miles
> $3000 /m goes straight to retirement fund because you know anything could happen and you really just have to be responsible

>>17109923

>Hellcat Wagon

Hnnnnngggg

>>17109675
A RWD Lincoln sedan and coupe.
Also a turbo version of the 86

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>>17111730
The 2 ton Mustang should absolutely have a Lincoln sedan clone

>>17112935
It actually needs one. The Mustang is currently on a path to extinction because it shares so little with anything else Ford makes. It's basically become Ford's Corvette and historically Ford despises one-off's and kills them the instant the model shows any market weakness.

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>>17109675
A new Mazda RX-7 or 8

>>17111730
Arent Lincoln Town Cars RWD?

>>17109675
I'm more surprised that a 3rd party hasnt started releasing semi-affordable "gas-stretcher" and/or gas to electric kit.

Essentially something to help ease gas cost pain, but not eliminate it completely. It takes your gas guzzler from horrible MPG to moderately efficient.

I'm sure plenty of people would pay 5K to bump their Hummer H2 from 12mpg to 25mpg

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GTR FUCKING DISCONTINUED AND REPLACED ALREADY

its fucking 10 years old.

>>17109675
>390Z
Instrucions clear, building more C̶a̶s̶h̶c̶o̶w̶s̶ Qashqais.

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>>17113381

Looper portrayed this, modern cars retrofitted with alternative fuels in the future.

With "glass roofs" becoming a more common feature, how long until we see EV range extenders powered by solar roofs and or deceleration regeneration.

*imagines being able to install a range extender in the massive boot of muh V for max MPG

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>>17113387
>This
R36 when?
It either needs to lose half a ton whole resting AWD and 600+hp

Or

Stay the same weight but gain electric motor assist for max acceleration

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>>17111600
I guess 4chan is home of the autists for a reason. I'm shocked there are people this retarded living in this world.

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>>17109675
why's her knuckles so brown?

>>17113683
R35 is garbage anyway. Automatic, driver aids. Cars are being designed for women.

>>17113837
>GM
Never will I ever. I would rather own the GTR than Corvette.

>>17109700
i thought about getting a charger then i saw they get 16 city/24 highway. there are full size pickup trucks that get better than that. that's even with the 8 speed

>>17110420
but it'll still have the gay little 1.4l turbo (135hp) instead of the 2.0 from the Camaro that should go in it

>>17110292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkiv-bWbLIo
watch this and learn

>>17113948
Wow...... I thought it was just you guys being anal about the placement of a bolt or something and blaming that for the reason. But no, it literally does not drive the rear-wheels whatsoever.

>>17114037
yeah, honda released some statement about it not being designed to withstand the full torque of the engine so it won't transfer enough power to the rear to break it, which is also not enough power to move the car

>>17114056
I think the 2017 fixed it.

>>17109799
Nice.

>>17109923
Door needs to be longer

>>17109675
Cadillac putting a V8 in their cars. I hear they're doing that next year though.

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>>17114072
Literally just sell the ATS-V with the LT1 instead of the V6TT. Or take a V8 Camaro and give it the Cadillac treatment. They share the alpha platform.

>>17113381
>Aren't Lincoln Town Cars RWD?
Well yeah but they stopped making that 6 years ago.

>"The 86 is so bad I hate it lmao"

Stopped right there

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>>17115391
Who said that?

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>>17109675
>discontinuing incredibly popular cars
>turbo charging muh V8's in the current year

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>>17109675
>> Direct-injected 427

LS7

MX-5 with a ~200hp flat engine and transverse leaf springs would be the perfect car.

>>17115307
But what if I want an American naturally aspirated V8 sedan?

>>17117568
Nigga LS7 is not direct injected, new LT1 is.

>>17110490
>>17110539
Honestly i kinda agree with you. If you don't have many expenses (ahem, budgeting), then why not? Don't listen to the guy who has an post-Doctorate degree in advanced budgeting that tries to use overly complicated algorithms like the "1/3rd rule". We're not mathematicians here, okay? Take you're cutting-edge, research-level budgeting and go make everybody feel dumb on some theoretical physics forums.

>>17113613
a few square feet of pv panels doesn't much power sorry

NEW RS COUPE STI

>>17117798
SS
Charger

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>>17109675
THE APOCALYPSE

>>17110403

>You think it's smart to finance a car for 10 years?

Well, that depends. If I can magically source a 0% APR 10 year loan on a $25,000 car, which gives me a monthly payment of ~$210/month, and I can then use the extra $210/month from not having a 5 year loan to invest in an index fund at a return of 1-7% annually, then yes, I would say financing a car for 10 years is a motherfucking wonderful idea.

Of course, the likelihood of someone actually putting the extra money aside into something that builds value is incredibly low, but still, it could happen.

Financing is not always the devil. That said, if you're putting 50% of your income into a car payment every month, you're pretty well proper fucked.

1/3 your salary is a load of shit. Paying cash for a brand new car is not only a load of shit, but also a terrible idea unless you have absolutely horrible credit. Credit unions regularly offer sub-2% finance rates for new car purchases, and several manufacturers regularly run 0% APR financing specials. If you have $25k saved up, why in the ever loving seven hells would you dump it all into something that you can finance FOR FREE for 5 years? For fucks sake, put $5k down or whatever the fuck it takes to make the payment manageable and put the rest into something, literally anything at all that will build value. A gods damned CD account would be a better fucking idea than buying a car for cash when there's 0% financing available.

Even at 2% interest, it still makes absolutely zero fucking sense to pay cash for a car when you could invest in literally any index fund at all and see well above a 2% annual return.

Yes, staying out of debt and budgeting sanely is priority #1 for the vast majority of people, but if you have the slightest clue as to what you're doing, financing is not only not the devil, but is in reality the better of the available options for the financially secure.

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>>17117963
>SS
not available in canuckland. pic related.
>Charger
FCA trash.

>>17117971
Happening in May, m8

>>17109774
>72k
What's so special about the pedrofaggio?

>>17113381
I mean you can get a tune or a performance chip can't you?

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>>17118441
AWD and 500hp, in a 4 door "foreign" lol

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>>17113933
>tfw I have the 1.4l turbo cruze

>fiero remade
>engine is either Camaro 2.0T or ATS-V V6TT

>>17109716
>another awd like wrx
I thought dodge made a AWD charger? Not sure about the pricing or so

>>17119294
Yea but it's closer to 5000lbs and WRX is closer to 3000lbs. And I don't think the Hemi+AWD has been an option since the early models.

*they did just start making an AWD Chally with the 8speed zef and V6 Pentastar

>>17119013
sucks, don't it?

>>17109675
>390Z

This is never happening, what you're going to get is a 300ZT with a turbo 3.0

>>17109848
>inline six

Expect a turbo 4, MAYBE a V6.

>>17109740
The next gen charger/challenger will be based on the Giulia platform.

>>17109809
Better AWD? Sauce

>>17109675
>modern vehicle design never happening

>>17109811
Explain

>>17109675
Suzuki bringing cars back to the US

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>>17111603
what about a transverse awd BRZ

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>>17109675
>THINGS YOU FEEL LIKE SHOULD HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED
>Turbo 4 roadster from Ford/GM
been there, done that, kicked everyone's ass.

>>17109675
>390z
>not something like 200z
but bigger is better amirite

when is that sfr coming out for fucks sake