Mr2

Any supercharged Lotus Elise.

Fitting, considering an MR2 is just a poor mans Lotus.

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Mr2 is king

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I just found out today that there's a convertible SW20.

Pic related, yeah it's all factory.

This is pushing it, admittedly, but you can get a stripped-out GT86 in Japan (called the RC). 205HP and 2650-ish pounds.

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1987 Porsche 944 Turbo

>>17101466

WINRAR

Too bad the usdm doesn't get to see cool stuff

>>17101466
What shit is that stripped model missing?

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>>17101410
First generation mustang with a HiPo Windsor V-8
>210 hp
>2445 curb weight
>rwd
niiiiiiiiigaaaaaaaaa

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>>17101477
I was gonna bring up the 'ol 944 -- but only the NA models are that lightweight. Turbos push anywhere from 2900-3100lbs stock. Super easy to strip down though.

>>17101460
wasn't sure when i read your thing, but yeah doesn't look bad at all. hows it look top up?

I always liked the looks of a 944. Too bad it would probably shit the bed if I tried to DD one.

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>>17101532
It's straight up a Porche

>>17101508
Ford would make me so happy if they went back to making the Mustang small, like they did with the original and the Foxbody.

Big engines in small cars > big engines in big cars

>>17101410
>2750lbs

holy fuck that is fat. just boost a miata

>>17101497
No radio, no passenger airbag, not sure if it has aircon, no infotainment. It's literally sold as a car they expect you to mod the shit out of, it's even on steelies.

>>17101497
Paint, for one.

>implying 1250kg is light
oi vei

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2855lbs.

>52 more hp.
>much nicer
>badgewhores like it

>>17101410
GC8 WRX and WRX STis were around 2600-2800lbs.

>>17101653
Also seven times more expensive
;-)

>>17101793
A GC8 with a turbo is seriously my dream car. Pretty much the only lightweight awd cars ever.

BBR NA MX5
220hp
maybe 2200lbs at worst
60k mile warranty

>>17101801
>seven times more expensive

closer to only twice as much, really.

a decent mr2 turbo isn't a cheap car either

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>>17101575
Steelies ;)

>>17101410
s2000 CR

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>>17101856
They didn't even paint the fascias in the toyota version

>>17101410
if you will forgive 100 lbs ~

neon srt4 WHP/WTQ 245

>>17101410
I can't find anywhere that says an SW20 Turbo is 2750 lbs. Must be a super rare hardtop model? The T-top turbo is 2888 lbs according to some sources.

Pic of one on a scale?

>>17102014
Because I was going to bring up the Boxster too. Stick with early model base cars to keep the weight low.

1997 Porsche Boxster
Luxury vehicle
4.2/5 · Cars.com
Horsepower: 201 hp
Engine: 2.5 L 6-cylinder
Curb weight: 2,756 lbs
MPG: 19 city / 27 highway
Dimensions: 170″ L x 70″ W x 51″ H
Fuel tank capacity: 15 gal

>>17101466
>>>17101490

>205hp
>to the crank

still only 170whp

>>17102014
Also maybe not relevant to those in the US, but I'm sure a 1991 Nissan Silvia K's is similar weight and power as the SW20 turbo.

>>17102037
As if drivetrain losses don't apply to MR2s.

>>17101466

mr2 turbo can easily reach 290whp on stock turbo,ecu,injectors, provided you also go with 3 inch turbo back and get a larger intercooler.

>>17102066

see

>>17102084

>>17101410
your mums sweaty snatch

>>17102093
You can do that with most factory turbo cars. I thought we were talking stock here. Because guess what... You can remove weight from both cars too. And for free, even. Which would make this whole argument irrelevant.

>>17101410
S13 Silvia

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>>17101410
>500lbs lighter and over 1000hp more than the mr2
introducing the worlds fastest production car

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>>17102810
modified car*

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2,688lbs, 210hp
There's at least 50 different make/models from the early 60s that meet this criteria

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>>17101410
>Curb weight: 2,376 lb (1,078 kg)
>Power Output: 406 bhp (303 kW; 412 PS) at 7000 rpm
>Torque Output: 349 lb·ft (473 N·m) at 4500 rpm

>>17102755

>s13

The chassis is floppier than your moms vagoo.

>>17102838
yea... "gross" horsepower maybe. Dyno one of those.

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Torana SLR5000
2608 pounds
240 hp

>>17101989

>playing easy mode

>>17102941
http://www.mustangandfords.com/parts/mump-1003-1965-hi-po-engine-versus-shelby-289-short-block/

Not sure why you think 210hp out of a 5l with 10.25:1 compression and a 600cfm carb would be difficult to attain, if anything the 1964 K code was underrated and the 1965 (the one dyno'd in the link) was accurate in it's claim

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>>17102931
>Curb weight: 1,100 kg (2,425 lb)
>4.0L Mk1: 360 bhp (268 kW), 310 lb·ft (420 N·m)
>4.2L Mk2 T440R (2003): 440 bhp (328 kW) @7600 rpm, 475 N·m (350 lb·ft) @/6000 rpm

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>>17103002
>Curb weight: 1,100 kg (2,425 lb) (Speed Eight)
>1,060 kg (2,337 lb) (4.5 Lightweight)
>...a 4.2 L V8 producing 360 horsepower (268 kW) and gave the Cerbera a top speed of 185 mph (297 km/h). A 4.5 litre version of the engine was later offered with 420 horsepower (310 kW).

>>17102996
Thanks for proving my point. Testing an engine on an engine dyno with no accessories and an electric water pump. Perfect definition of "gross" hp.

>>17103002
>>17103007

I can rely on the SW20 to actually work, though

>>17103013
>proving your point
>in disbelief that it could make 210hp
>makes 270hp

>>17103021
>moving the goalposts

>>17103029
270 gross hp.

>still doesn't know the difference.

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If playing easy mode, an rsx type s has 200hp and weighs about 2700

I did last time motherfucker

>Subaru BRZ
>2600lbs
>205-210 horsepower

>>17102938

Floppy compared to modern cars, but will take a 400hp motor through the drive train and still drive with good dynamics.

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the GT-Four is about 2600 pounds iirc and makes around 250 hp

>>17103230
never mind, just looked it up and it weighs just over 3000 pounds. Disregard my post

So far the only USDM wins are;


1997 Boxter
>expensive and unreliable
(inb4 "muh german engineering")


RSX Type-S
>easy mode

>>17103211
FRS is 27xx
BRZ is 28xx

Still close enough to be a win

>>17101460
>Spider
unicorns m8

>>17101410
S2K comes pretty close weight wise.

>2800lbs
>~250hp

Also, RSX type S, NSX-R

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>>17103061
>water pumps parasitically draw 70hp
>the MR2 horsepower is measured at the wheels

>>17103254
>so far the only wins are x and x, if you ignore at least 50 other cars already mentioned

>>17103300
Cars need to be USDM and stock. Should have clarified I guess?

>>17101410
elise or built 2zz mrs.

Only thing that can defeat a mr2 is an mr2 + tune

s2000

>>17103240
only because it's awd. if it was rwd it would be the right weight.

Does anyone know if the first generation mr2 came with a hard top? No moon roof, no t-top, just metal.

>>17103619

Yes 85 models made before June will be hardtop only.

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Z3 M roadsters are <2900 lbs

the coupes are like 3100 lbs though

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Ford Sierra Cosworth

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Alfa Stratos

>>17103671
Oops meant lancia

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>>17101410

227hp, 2690 pounds, awd: Nissan Pulsar GTI-R

>>17103717

GOAT

>>17102941
>gross
It was common for alot of engines to be advertised with less power
And 200 hp with a 5l v8 is pretty low

>>17103254
>Boxster
>USDM
jej.

>expensive
>unreliable
Stop being a poorfag who neglects maintenance.

fd rx7
fc comes close
both can be stripped down a significant amount as well

In order of appearance

>Porche Boxster
>Acura RSX Type-S
>Scion FRS
>Honda s2000
>Mazda rx7 FD

>Toyota wins again

any of the first 3 lancer evos, no problems

>>17103860
>fc comes close
FC type RZ is less than 2750lbs according to wikipedia

>>17101410
Lotus 3-11 410 hp and 925kg (2040lb) in road trim

>>17103717
Arent the gearboxes in these made of glass?

Elise SC
218bhp
2000lbs

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RX8 Type S.

234 bhp.

1.300 kg.

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>>17101410
>Opel Speedster Turbo
What did I won?

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>>17101410