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i mean yeah, you can get something more powerful, or handles better, or ( insert reason)

But if you get a good deal on one that isnt riced or butchered its a pretty fun ride
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>>17101007
They're pretty much all riced or butchered, though. I don't think anybody on /o/ hates a nice clean and tasteful WRX/STI, unless the owner is an obnoxious Ken Block fanboy or vapebro.
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>>17101029
This, fuck ebay level mods.
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>>17101007

It really is perfect in wagon form. It's as much power as most people can practically use most days on most roads. Plenty of room to carry things. Reliable if you don't drive it like a faggot. Gearbox is only glass if you're doing hard launches and shitty downshifts every damn day. Drive smoothly when you hoon and it will not break.

Downsides
>Premium fuel tax. Fuck paying $2.90 for premium when Regular is $2.20
>No option to put regular fuel in without lots of knock
>Eats brake rotors like there's no tomorrow even when I barely use them (happened on Outback wagon too so idk if it's just a subaru quirk)
>In sedan form with a wing, cops will love you
>It's not 2002 anymore so nobody is impressed with them
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Tfw I own a clean stock STI and have plenty of boyracers speed up to wave in completely riced out WRX's/STI's
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I actually really like subarus, it's just that 90% of owners now either ruin them with gaudy mods for street cred or think they're ken block and constantly drive like twats. I'm thinking about buying a saabaru as my next car so hopefully that will keep the vapeboys away
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>>17101074
This makes me sad that I'll probably never find one as clean as mine was. I got it right off lease in '05, stock except for wheels and shocks+springs and with only 35k on it. Selling it in '12 was one of the most painful things I've ever done.
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>>17101141
How much you sell for? How many miles it have?
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>>17101007

If you go and slam it to the ground then there's other RWD cars that that will outperform it for the price of a non-molested Subaru. If you use it as a rally car it makes sense but otherwise the awd is barely useful with 200hp on tap and winter is going to be shit with an inch of ground clearance.
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>>17101162
AWD offers alot more grip and stability than RWD
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>>17101152
6500 IIRC, with a little over 100k on it. It wasn't in the greatest shape by that point, needed a clutch and a few other things.
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>>17101166
Yeah, If you don't understeer into a ditch first.
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>>17101453
Know the car's limits before you go full equinox, oversteer is a thing too you know
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Or if your breath doesn't smell of vape juice and cum you can get the EVO.
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>>17101498
There is no difference from WRX/STI and Lancer/EVO crowds
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>>17101074
Wait im supposed to use premium? ehh
>>17101029
I got one thats mostly stock, its got an aftermarket blowoff and some faggot chopped the springs, but i planned on replacing them
>>17101111
Yup
>>17101141
Tasty, i got an 05 with blob eyes, but i wanted an 04 with the bug eyes
>>17101475
Full equinox? People drive cars without knowing their limits? are they asking to wreck it??
>>17101498
#VAPENATION
>>17101503
bunch of sony microsoft fanboyfaggots to be completely honest
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Its a car ive wanted to have for years didnt realize i was asking for vaper/ricefags. wouldnt mind driving a dirt track with it when i get used to it. My first manual and first turbo, and boy to i love the fuck outta it. The one i got was from some shop ive never heard of, and i kinda got fucked. rusty, but thats what i expected, he guys promised me body work and a fresh coat of paint, but ended up fixing none of the body work, fucked the paint the first time ( no primer) as it was keyed by the previous owner before being repo'd. ( yeah probably a red flag they had a crackhead paint it and he took it outside in the snow before it was dry so it needed a repaint, didnt fix any dings, managed to break a 1 square inch area off the corner of the passenger side door. said, oh were gonna replace some rear frame part, but i doubt they did. my dad was a mechanic for many years so i had him test drive it, tach didnt work and AC didnt work so they said they will fix it, old me it was ready to pick up,(after month)go to pick it up, the trunk, wing, and hood were painted black " i thought a two tone would look good" motherfucker i asked for rally blue not some asian rice fag garbage "you dont see many like that" because it looks like faggot tier shit... after a while it idled fucky, stalled alot, turns out the coilpacks were bad and barely attached, taillights full of water, wing not having the nuts bolted, lights not bolted, no AC belt, wipers were falling apart, they never bolted the passenger seat back down after welding in a floor plate from a rotted floor. Felt like tires are made of concrete, they had the fronts at 100psi and the backs at 90.after fixing the coilpacks i stalled out less often and it drove MUCH nicer... After this, i got hit in an accident. Insurance is covering it, and im planning on getting it repainted and body work done as well as some rust repair... I feel conflicted
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>>17101877
This everyone, is why you don't buy an STI if you're a poorfag. Save up for clean example with low miles or don't even bother
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>>17101897

Not an sti


I wanted an STI, but i didint want to pay for overpriced shit, and i wanted better insurance rates

...... But you arent wrong
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>>17101934
Should have just got 3k civic until you could get a clean one. How much have you invested in that car?
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>>17101952
5500

Plus wipers, the belts and the coil pack work, but that SHOULD be coveredby the warrenty i paid 490 for.... 500 for coil pack and less than 50 for the other stuff. Im not too worried about that shit though. i fully intended to drive it till it died though, maybe when the engine shit out or headgasket went, i was planning on doing my first rebuild for funsies, i got the subie and a beater saturn, i was thinking of keeping the subie for fun so i wouldnt have to worry about driving to work when i needed to fix the subie
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>>17101007
>if you get a good deal on one that isnt riced or butchered
>good deal
>isn't riced
>or butchered

So what you're saying is there is not a chance in hell.
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>>17102004
I mean if you can do basic to medium difficulty work on a car you could wait and find something with some issues for cheap, which is what i was hoping for. I mean you could get a riced faggot mobile, and un faggot it. See, i dont mind working on a car and spending more than its worth if i can enjoy myself
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>>17101671
98 octane or higher. Or use an additive.
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>>17102312
what additives and how often?
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le bump?
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Why would I get that over a Mitsubishi Evo, thought?
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>>17102986
Find me one within 100 miles of boston for less than 10k, ill seriously think about it...
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>>17101029
>I don't think anybody on /o/ hates a nice clean and tasteful WRX/STI, unless the owner is an obnoxious Ken Block fanboy or vapebro
So the average WRX/STi owner?
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>>17102312
stop

>>17101671
>Wait im supposed to use premium? ehh
this is why people say they are unreliable filling with fucking 87 and redlining every stoplight.
put 91/93, change oil, follow the simple maintenance schedule.
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>>17101671
>wait I'm supposed to use premium?
People like you are the reason the Subaru community has gone downhill. These aren't the fucking base model Civics you moved up from where you can dump in 87 octane and expect it to run perfectly. It even says on the gas cap and owner's manual to use at least 91.

>>17103197
couldn't have said it better myself
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>>17103197
I mean i could just put regular in it, oil changes, not driving like a total faggot and doing regular maintenance


you know, the things you do to any car you plan on not totally fucking destroying
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Because why the fuck not?
Hating things are good.
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>>17103324
or you put in the proper gas so your engine doesn't grenade.

learn what engine knock is and what octane does for that. unless you intend to never hit boost (2800RPM and lower ALL THE TIME/never driving on the freeway) fill with the gas on the label you fucking retard. it has nothing to do with "hammering on the gas" all the time and all to do with the basics of how a turbo engine works.

Or go to a tuner and ask him give you an 87 tune and he'll laugh in your face.
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>>17103336
>Ask him for a 87 Tune

You know that's common in places with high altitude (Colorado and Rockies) and low quality fuel (Alaska and Northwest Canada), right?
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>>17103290
well shit, youre right, thats what the damn manual reads. Normally when it requires high octane theres a sticker... Also nothing on the gas cap, and the car didint have a manual in it. Im just gonna assume the guy who owned it before me removed it, along with the emblems..
" people like you are the reason the subaru community has gone downhill"

How about go fuck yourself? Ive owned the thing for less than 2 months and apparently im cancerous...
Whew lads
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>>17103336
WELL THEN
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>>17103324
Why didn't you just get a normal Impreza if you're worried about needing premium?

>>17103387
>You know that's common in places with high altitude (Colorado and Rockies) and low quality fuel (Alaska and Northwest Canada), right?
They basically use an economy map that keeps the wastegate open all the time. In other words, they turn it into a normal Impreza until they can get proper fuel. This brings me back to the above reply to >>17103324.
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>>17103468
i assumed the WRX was fine with regular and the STI needed premium... but fuck me for being wrong right?
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>>17103411
Not him, but:

>not doing even basic research on the car you're planning on buying
>expecting said performance car to only need minimal attention when it's already known for being fussy with how it's maintained/modified
>new owner likely to make shitty modifications that may result in the engine grenading, the car becoming borderline unliveable, or both based on the above two points

>" people like you are the reason the subaru community has gone downhill"
Here, I'll sugarcoat it for you since your feelies are easily hurt. The current wave of people new to Subaru consists largely of Hondafags, now that the Evo has been discontinued. What these new people perceive as OK for tuning/maintaining a Honda, they think applies to turbo Subarus the same. You see this a LOT on the Subaru forums where they'll argue, with Subaru veterans mind you, that Honda methods work with Subaru. This is in addition to bringing the vapememe and stance scene to the Subaru community, which before the Evo died, was actually much smaller and had a higher proportion of off-road/rallyX enthusiasts.
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>>17103479
The WRX can run on regular for a short time if you REALLY have not choice, and that's IF you can stay out of boost. If you keep using 87, the pistons will crack and/or the ringlands will fail (especially with the 2.5L engine, which is already known to suffer ringland failure).

The STI needs at least premium because of a higher compression ratio. Do some reading up on engine knock and octane rating, also on properly maintaining an older turbo Subaru. It seems to me that you've been terribly misinformed on these cars, if informed at all.
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>>17103324
>regular fuel in a WRX
seriously?
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>>17103324
Wanna hear a knock knock joke?
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>>17103824
Idk, I'm not much of a "slap" stick fan.
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>>17101671
>doesn't even know what fuel his shitbox is supposed to take

This is why anyone who buys a second hand Impreza is an idiot.
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>>17101007
>one that isnt riced or butchered
lol
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>>17103479
>he didn't bother to read the note in his owners manual/inside of the fuel filler door
>he argues that simple maintenance and always driving it like a grandma will keep engine from blowing up from low octane
Either learn how to treat an old turbo car properly or sell it and get a shitbox that can take the neglect you're going to put it through. If you're a faggot who's dead set on looking/sounding like you have a WRX but not wanting to worry as much about maintenance, just get a 2.5RS.
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My 04 wrx is stock. should I do anything to it? I'm tempted to go for gold wheels and turbo back exhaust
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>tfw Legacy GT
>tfw AWD perks minus the boy racer label

Inb4 wheel gap, putting my coilovers in later this weeks
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>>17101007
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Heh. Some aren't too bad.
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>>17103387
Colorado has 90, which given the altitude is probably fine since I don't ever recall a spike of residents in rocky mountain states reporting knock.

It's not like you can't buy high octane tiers in high altitude areas, I've never seen a gas station that is exclusively regular without being out or having some other service issue.

Going off the law of averages I'm highly doubting he's posting from an igloo in the great white wastes in the north or a poo in loo where all they have is fart gas fuel.

>>17103568
I've seen plenty of WRXs that still run even after the owners abuse them. They can handle some things well but they ain't hondas.

>>17104617
if you're gonna do anything, do bushings/suspension.
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>>17101007
>h6 liberty b4 wagon
>180kw NA flat 6 has a bit of power
>tfw cant get much power out of it as if it were a turbo without spending big bux :(
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>>17103568
well i guess after looking into them for months i guess i overlooked the simple fact i have to put better gas in it... whoops, guess ill do that from now on, what a terrible person i must be

>>17103609
well its a 2.0. the NA wrx is a 2.5 as well as the sti, but the wrx turbo is 2.0. Yeah thats the thing i noticed and not what gas it uses

>>17103824
=/

>>17103929
well ive always been an idiot, astounding observation though, bravo

>>17104170
well at least im not completely unable to do my own mechanic work, i was just fucked because i should have expected a shady dealer to try and fuck me

>>17103568
damn i cant even save a car from some Asian faggots without being a faggot, good thing i dont plan on modding anything, as idiots who mod shit generally dont take reliability into account.
Glad im not a hondafag, and anything that i break i am capable of repairing/replacing

See as im capable of learning from my failures, this engaging conversation has made me understand the car a little more. Thanks i guess
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>>17104812
there are alot of cars that i could have gotten with more power for less money if i gave a shit about power. I wanted the STI look from the factory because thats what i liked, and i always wanted something with a turbo, and i searched for months and found what was too good to be true, so now ill spend the next year or so fixing it because theres no maintenance records


As far as what i should now check and replace at 130k~ assuming the timing belt was done ~100
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>TFW this thread made you realize that WRX's are all unreliable because their faggot owners use the wrong fuel
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>>17101007
But it's 90K for a new one here
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>>17105224
Good thing i only did it twice before i got hit by a chevy avalanche and its spent the last week at a body shop. And i can bet you anything that the faggot who had it before me used regular its whole life


You know its almost like if you want something nice you have to take care of it or something
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>>17104665
please tell me that isn't forester
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>>17101007
Because it's literally boyracer: the car
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Mine ran 12's in 2008 on all-season tires w/ less than $1k in [used] mods.

Pretty fucking respectable, especially at the time.
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>>17105269
Well I still like it and enjoy driving it, so why does that matter?
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>>17105224
I think it's only the retards on this board, the inside of the fuel cap on my Liberty GT literally says used a 95 blend or higher
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>>17105417
Busrider spotted
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>>17103568
The reason I'm most sad that the evo is dead is that i see 2x the amount of wrx's now and 50% of them are owned by obnoxious fags.
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>>17105493
wat
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People always say it's the community that's the problem, but I got one thinking I'm getting it for the car and it makes me want to do bad things behind the wheel. Now I've plastered dumb stickers on the back and I'm contemplating dropping it an inch or two and modding it past the exhaust the last guy put in it because I'm a dick.

I blame the car.
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I have an opportunity to buy a 2016 wrx used off a repossession from the bank or I buy a used 2017 wrx from a dealer

What's the difference between a 2016 and 2017 wrx?
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>>17106507
365 days
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>>17104756
>if you're gonna do anything, do bushings/suspension.

recommendations/ideas?

I was never into modding but have been curious
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>>17106630
Is that really it? Surely there must be differences
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>>17101007
stop trying to justify buying a ricer mobile
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I fucking wanted an Impreza wagon

but no, we didn't get the STi when they were new and the ones we did get were depowered, and those were all bought by ricers and dudebros who quickly ruined them beyond salvation

now there's nothing left
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>>17106688
but im saving it from being ricered

you gotta save them from faggots instead of letting them ruin them all
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>>17106688
t.leased automatic FRS

You have no room to talk faggot
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>>17106682
http://lmgtfy.com/?iie=1&q=what+is+the+difference+between+a+2016+wrx+and+a+2017+wrx%3F
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>>17106818
I already did this and I got either speculative results from before the 2017 came out or websites listing shit for the 2017. Nothing comparing the two at all
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>>17106833
http://www.lynnessubaru.com/subaru-impreza-vs-subaru-impreza-bloomfield-nj.htm

Apparently not TOO much difference, but I would go with a 2016 if you can get them after a nice markdown for the new models
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>>17106859
This is the impreza. I was talking about the wrx
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>>17106869
looks like I was wrong again

I would still assume they are almost the same car, considering they haven't changed the engine much
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>>17107063
Yea I cannot find a single thing that really changed other than some added safety features and a slight change in how the front and rear face look.
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>>17104645

My nigga.
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>>17106658
Kartboy F/R shifter bushings, engine/transmission mounts, pitch stop mount, Andrewtech transmission cocktail, Pennzoil or Castrol synthetic 10w-40 every 5K, and if you have a pre-06 WRX, catless uppipe.
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>>17107191
what should I look into repairing/replacing to get a smoother driving experience?
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>>17107429
Everything I mentioned above. I'd also do the sway bars and end links so the car stays buttoned down when turning.
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>>17106815
spotted the NEWFAG
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>>17107429
>>17107609
Forgot to mention, a lightweight flywheel will really wake the engine up too.
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>>17107615
spotted the literal fag
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Should I buy it?
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/6051239715.html
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>>17107615
t. leased automatic FRS
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>>17107640
Test drive it, and make sure you have a spare $1500 for any possible repairs.

At that mileage, don't bother modding/tuning it unless you want to drop $3k on a new engine.
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>>17107679
Thanks for the input, if I were to buy it, it would probably just be my daily.
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>>17101007
Pretty fun until you blow a ringland or the turbo. They're great cars otherwise, but the ej25 needs to be built to be reliable, at which point you may as well upgrade the turbo and do all the other ricer shit. God tier transmission though.
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So it looks like the body shop is gonna total it, so i MAY end up walking away with an extra 2 grand.

So can i get an RS turbo?
Will it sound the same?
Same engine and transmission?
recommendations?

Im sure given time i could rebuild the engine if i end up fucking it

Clearly i am an amateur
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>>17108573
there is no RS turbo

a quick google search would have told you that.
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I'm like many subie owners here, >5000$ in repair parts, done all the labor myself etc. I just learned that you can do a 4.44 diff swap front+rear in the 5MT.

My question is, with an 18lb flywheel and lightweight pulley coupled with 4.44 final drive, Will my car be significantly faster than stock without needing to mess with the engine (which is stock but well maintained), or is it way more complicated than I'm thinking and is a waste of time?
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>>17109237
OP here
i was hoping for a cheaper alternative, but i guess ill suffer as a poorfag
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>>17109348
I don't see a point in the 4.44 gears for a DD when gas economy is already so shit and with the 5MT you're gonna get a 1-2-3 shift to 60 instead of the 1-2 stock. your car is faster to accelerate but slower in top speed in each gear, do some research with gearing.

shifting will be faster with that flywheel but you need to remember that the 5spd is not meant to be honda shifted. 18lb is not that much less than stock (iirc they are 24lb) I usually see people get the 14lb one so your gains from the flywheel may not compensate for the 1-2-3 shift. desu it'll be like when subaru revised gearing in the brz to be "slower" but more "fun". if you just did the flywheel you'll keep the 1-2 0-60 and have better response overall still.

>>17109503
premium isn't really that much more expensive. going off my local prices (low end on reg, high end on premium)

assuming you drive 15k miles a year at 22mpg average
Regular @ 2.40: $1636
Premium @ 3.00: $2045

if you can't afford 400 extra over an entire year just buy a civic or miata.
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>>17109599
nah it really wasnt that big a deal, its not that much more, plus i wont be driving it every day, i just cant believe after all this time i never noticed anything about fuel type.

Side note, anyone know someone who imported a subaru from japan? i know right, listen to this jackass talking about importing one. But to be fair, the prices arent terrible, they are generally kept up with maintenance, low mileage, especially since i would be getting a 98-2000 instead. i know RHD but that just means i switch hands
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>>17110475
>Inb4 25 years old only
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>>17110475
>import subaru worth the time and expense
>get crushed
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>>17101007
meme engine
meme wheel drive
shit community
unreliable
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>>17110493
1/4
See me after class.
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>>17110481
not noticing i posted about the 25 year old rule there. Its just what i want at some point in my life
>>17104645
>>17107167
wow, thats a way better idea... Jesus fuck Thank christ, if insurance totals the car, get a legacy and pocket the rest...
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>>17101985
this is tough to say, I love subies, I learned to drive stick as a tiny kid in my mom's 97 outback hatch, but dude, you gotta let her go. That thing is too far gone, for the cost of fixing it up you could have gotten something in almost factory condition, and that's coming from someone living in the rust belt.
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I drive a CVT WRX sue me
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>>17112226
kill yourself. cvt a shit
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I drive an STI and I've noticed that I'm starting to become more and more like the stereotype. I daily it driving maybe 25k a year too which is completely unsustainable.
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>>17101007
>a good deal
>isnt riced or butchered
Good luck finding one.
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>>17112322
25k a year what the fuck you doing in it? over the road douchebagging?
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>>17112171
yeah, at this point im sorta hoping its totalled, that way i can grab a legacy gt. Same engine , still turbo, and not looking like vape douchebro while driving it. In another 8 years when i get some spare cash, the nice subies i was looking at will be legal to import from japan, meticulously maintained and only 50-60k miles is nice
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>>17112226
My wife has one of those. It's not complete shit.
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oh golly the manly man who drives a manual right ? how small is your dick because people who care what transmission people drive are pretty beta
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>>17102020
There is no such thing as "some issues" with a Subaru. It either runs perfectly or it total fucking Armageddon. Once they start to go they practically shit the fucking bed.
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>>17112878
i care because i enjoy it. It makes my driving experience more fun for me. Does your inferiority complex compel you to project so hard bro?
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>>17113063
Sounds like EVERY CAR EVER
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>>17113063
im sure thats true, but ive been fixing my shitboxes for years, and i was a mechanic apprentice for 8 months, im sure i could handle a bulk of the issues i would come across aside from serious rust issues or frame damage.
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>>17113413
idk but youre a faggot
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>>17112322
after owning my WRX a year I have become the stereotype too.

25k a year is a lot, how is maint? I don't see why the STi would have any extra issues over the WRX if you aren't hammering it.
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>>17113740
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>>17113063
My 95 lincoln comes to mind. Damn thing makes a new noise every time I drive it.
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>>17101007
No hate, got a 2016, fun as fuck to drive
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>>17116148
Actually the only thing I hate are people who rice them out, plasti dip every second panel, mod them without research and cry that their shit breaks.
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>>17116164
The 2.5L EJ motor needs a ton of research to mod right. They're a bit temperamental, but do well when properly taken care of. I'm putting a downpipe on mine tomorrow and working with a reputable tuner and have all the supporting mods for my 2015.
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>>17105251
it isn't a forester
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>>17101007
All beat to shit and overpriced here because Colorado. The only upside is that they come with a complementary flat brimmed hat and a vape
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I got an new '17 STI because I liked the wing.

I didn't even know how to drive stick.
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>>17117785
Too lazy to do the work yourself or are you just slow?
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>>17117797

I must be, because I'm not sure what you're talking about.
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>>17117820
Part of the reason why people buy those vehicles is to do the work themselves..you spent 10k more for branding
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>>17118040
especially now that the STi is virtually the same as the new WRX. wew 10 less hp but way better tork curve for actually driving around town, then a set of coils that would kick the shit out of the STi suspension for 2.5k.
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>>17119093
>>17118040

Honestly I just liked the wing. I saw one on the road and bought the STI the next day. Hadn't even sat in one before.

I figured there wouldn't be a car in that price range that I could drive about in the Canadian winters with that much pep in its step.

It is stiff as fuck though.
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>>17120010
wrxs/stis have plenty of pep for a winter, dangerously even but I think they are plenty for the average guy to have fun in. just make sure you get winter tires because that's what really brings out the potential in the snow. just try and stick to parking lots to get an idea of what you can do.
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>>17120010
Are you a woman by chance?
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>>17119093
You know, except for all the differentials and an insanely tough transmission, they're the same.

You don't know shit about an STI vs WRX do you?
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>>17118040
Do wrxs still have open front and rear Diffs and no dccd?
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>>17120639

Nope I'm a 27 year old male with a penis.
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>>17121509
spend 10k on diffs and dccd, wew lad

also >implying any subaru transmission is strong
is there even a difference between the WRX and STi 6 speeds otherwise? honestly curious

as a DD the STi serves no purpose, but I don't like any of the new subarus anyways.

>>17121572
everything is open except for the viscous center iirc but not sure. subaru got rid of rear WRX lsd a long time ago.
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>>17121613
>also >implying any subaru transmission is strong
stop spewing memes, its not 2006. The 2010+ transmissions are fucking great.
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>>17101007
I got to drive my brother in law's today. It's a fun car and seems decent quality but that fucking spoiler just makes me cringe every time. Does it even need that? It looks like shit. Other than that it seems like an ok car.
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>>17121815
Theres actually a version to remove the spoiler and replace it with the WRX lip
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>>17121817
Nice. That wing is fucking gay. I'm not in the market for one but if I were to buy one I'd def get it without the spoiler. I subtlety talked to my bro about the wing and asked what he thought of it and if he had ever considered getting rid of it. He seems to enjoy the wing and thinks it looks good because it's a head turner and it makes him stand out. I'm glad he enjoys it but personally I think it's hideous.
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>>17121613
The drivetrain on the STI is completely different. The transmission in the STI is incredibly strong and completely different internally from the WRX six speed. The WRX six speed is the old five speed with an extra gear and carbon syncros.

The cost of the STI is worth it for the diffs and transmission alone. You'll spend more than the cost difference swapping it.

That's also counting out the brembos, hydraulic vs electric steering, improved interior, DCCD (which lets you adjust front/rear lockup from in the cabin via an electromagnetic center diff), and other improvements.

By the time you upgrade suspension, drivetrain, and brakes, you're far better off in an STI.
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>>17119093
>the STi is virtually the same as the new WRX
Idiot.
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>>17121613
>>17119093
go back to playing forza please
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>>17121870
When I bought my STi, I was considering having the wing removed. The dealership offered to replace it with the low profile spoiler for an extra $700 since I got the base model. I decided to leave it on since I didn't want to pay the extra and it has grown on me since, not because it's a head turner but it kind of fitting for what it is. I took a road trip with a friend who drives a '15 CTS-V and he's a normie and he loves that wing, probably more than I do.
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>>17101671
>mostly stock, its got an aftermarket blowoff and some faggot chopped the springs

yea bro sounds super sick and stock and not fucked up/riced at all
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>>17101074
i know tfw but hey my gf liker my wrx so its all good
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>>17110475
Yeah I got a stock 08 jdm sti. Mint condition, 42k on the clock, cost me 18k
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>>17121613
Actually the 6 speed used in STis since 2001 is good for 600 ft-lbs, a lot of times more. You'll break axles before you do a transmission close to that power level.

>>17122116
My bigger beef with the STi are the ugly mesh wheels. They look so much better with the Limited wheels.

>>17110475
Do it if you're in Canada, but remember Subarus are only 2nd place to Mazdas in how bad they can rust out. Usually rear wheel wells, rear strut towers. Even as new as 2005-2007 GDBs.

Shit, I'd personally love a STi Wagon. Anything from a v4 to a v7 Bugeye.

If you get something like a GC STi I wouldn't keep it as anything other than a summer/nice weather car. They're getting rare and rusty even in Japan like every other 1990s Sports Car.
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