Civic Type R Nuburgring

https://youtu.be/6LAB4cZ2V3Y

Have fun benchracing and memeing

Yeah cuz they sell it with a rollcage

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>>17079091
Gawd musheen. Can't wait for the new NSX Type R. shits gonna get ballistic.

Hondu a best.

Yeah but civics are gay. People will laugh at you if you drive one, and laugh harder when you say that it's a fast car.

>>17079091
>honda posting prototype laptimes again

>>17079181
Just like a Camaro then, only more practical.

>>17079194
Yeah, I personally agree, but a camaro is pretty popular with the normies

>>17079194
>only more practical
literally how.

Id still rather have an LNF cobalt.. especially since they r getting cheap

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>>17079208
Two more doors and a hatchback instead of this bullshit.

>>17079091
You know what i'm seriously impressed
Honda is god of fwd cars

Im gonna wait for 2018 base type r that hopefully it deletes the wing and 20's

>>17079091
Focus RS BTFO
Civic is 23 seconds faster than the faggot all wheel drive gay ford

>>17079333
Who got the 8:06 and was it a serious attempt? Was it on Super Sports or Cup 2's?

I'm sure the Type R is faster but that seems oddly slow for the RS

I expected more shitposting desu

/o/ is dead

>>17079513
Just wait until Fonzie and friends get home from school, you'll have your shitstorm.

>captcha: select all buses

>>17079381
The RS was done by Sport Auto so go figure.

The Civic Type R was also done by sport auto with the exact same driver and did a 8:15 so the Focus RS would indeed be faster there. Ford wouldn't really have anything to prove beyond that since all it would be is who can hand pick the best driver and squeeze as much time out as possible. wouldn't give us an accurate assessment of who's faster just which manufacturer is willing to play cat and mouse until the other gives up and is like "ok you can have it i'm not spending anymore money on this shit".

>>17079154
>nearly 200k (((super car)))
>really great mid-engine design
>super sweet motors in the front wheels for sweet torque vectoring
>but the car is still just average

What went wrong?

>>17079529
>8:15

The old civic type R or this new one?

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>>17079091
Hey, this Civic doesnt look like a turd and the hood is not part of the windshield. Took them long enough. Going to be nothing but ugly trash used Hondas for the next decade though.

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>>17079550
I think it was the van-like hatch not the Sedan shaped one in OP so maybe if they tested that one it would yield better results but still that is a pretty significant gap to make up.

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>>17079602
damn i am fucking useless didn't even get the time in.

>>17079581
I still think it's pretty ugly - it looks like it has one of those really tacky early-'00s ricer bodykits - but yeah, it's definitely an improvement over the last generation.

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>>17079613
Yeah I can see what you mean. But this front end is far more detailed than your 18 year old with daddies creditcard ricer kits. Those ports look like they have a purpose though, they are probably just panache.

>>17079638
The thing that bothers me is that the general body shape is really "un-sporty." Like something about it makes it seem more like an SUV or wagon or something than a sedan, with these beefy blocky macho styling queues, and then it's got all of this crazy race car shit tacked onto it.

The worst part is that the vents and grilles are obviously fake, you can clearly see that they're mostly blocked off, and I think it'd look better with a solid bumper and small vents where it actually needs them.

>>17079657
Most vents and grilles are 'fake' and blocked off in about almost every car. Streetcars don't need that much airflow not blocking them kills the aerodynamics

>>17079657
Going to disagree with you on the front end. I never liked the pointy bland front ends. I like big grills like its connected to a turbine engine. Looks tough. But the lack of functionalty does twerk my autism a bit, but not enough to make he like pointy front ends more. But overall shape is more important.

The overall shape, is unsporty but thats a problem with most wagon shaped hatchbacks. Its not sporty but its got a good engine but its engine makes a contrast. Overall shape I would say is pretty good. It has a nice slope to the back so the body doesnt look too bulky. But it does look like someone glued Ricer shit all over it, though good ricer shit.

The coop looks better overall probably wont get the engine. Only hatchbacks get the good engine for some reason.

>>17079545
american designed and built

LMAOO

>>17079695
Nobody cares what yurocucks think on this board famalam

>>17079550
Old one.

Mind you the 2018 is 6 seconds faster than the 2016. Assuming Sport Auto could do that much better, it'd be 8:06 versus 8:09, which is a wash on a track this long.

This is all conjecture but most bench racing is. Lap times that aren't same driver/same day don't tell you much.

vagina blown the heck out

>>17079545
>>but the car is still just average
Sounds like the last one. whats wrong?

>>17079687
I think I just really dislike Honda's current design language in general. It's like they're trying to make everything look like an SUV lately. I loved the late '90s/early '00s Honda look, the DC2, DC5, EK, and especially the S2000 are practically timeless, while I think the current Hondas are going to look incredibly passe by the time the next generation comes around.

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>>17079756
Not just Honda though. Everyone is doing it. It has something to with making the front ends more impact resistance, so I hear. Same reason the trucks all got bigger, flatter front ends.

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>>17079091
>A floating roll cage was added for safety reasons, but Honda claims that the cage did not improve the rigidity of the frame

>full cage

>doesnt affect rigidity

what did honda mean by this

>>17079805
they just set the cage in the backseat

>>17079805
>weld lengths of tube together
>those tubes are designed to keep the car from warping and deforming during crash
>somehow doesnt prevent car from warping or deforming the rest of the time

oh fuck off hondurr

>>17079772
A lot of it is pedestrian impact regs, but other manufacturers have done a better job of coping with it IMO. I know it's gonna raise some drama bringing it up in this thread, but I think the Focus RS did a much better job of making a cohesive-looking hot hatch than Honda has done with the CTR.

>>17079805
It says floating right there. How the fuck would it change body rigidity if its floating? Any sort of soft mounting would decouple it from the frame but it would still be effective in a crash.

>>17079849
pretty good

but incase anyone else isnt as smart as you

please explain in detail how a cage only works during a crash and not when the chassis is flexing during driving

>>17079869
>soft mounting
>effective cage design

its literally there for safety regs
and for normies to drool over

>>17079772
I heard from CNET it was for pedestrian safety. It knocks them away and spreads out the impact instead of cutting of their legs from the knee down and then have their heads slam into the hood/windshield.

>>17079805
floating as it isn't attached to the car, but will retain its structural integrity in a crash protecting the driver

>>17079805
>floating roll cage

OK, I get what they're claiming with this, but as somebody with professional cage building experience this is some weird shit. I can imagine how you'd do such a thing and how it might work, but I've never heard of anybody doing anything like this, and it sure as hell wouldn't pass tech in any racing series. I don't also don't know why Honda would bother considering most of these Nurburgring production car records are set with traditional cages installed. I don't think Honda is bullshitting, but I do think that there may have been a misunderstanding somewhere, either by the press or by Honda's PR rep.

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>>17079852
True, the Focus doent look like it has a bodykit but I think the overall shape of the Type R is better. Personally I wouldnt mind owning either of them. At least Honda is fighting back against the Focus. I thought they had given up.

>>17079878
>>17079852
Ahh, pedestrian impact. Makes sense. Rather than blowing out their knees and smashing their skulls, we will just liquefy all their internal organs. Good plan.

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>another one faster than 86

>>17079545
You've driven it? Tell us more

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>>17079898
>fighting back
nigga they just blew the RS out of the water with 7:43 with the previous gen still being faster than the RS

>>17079905
sorry bud, the Civic TYPE R was already in another league compared to that slow turd, even the Civic Si was faster than that "sports" car

Don't they want 43k$ for this? Who the fuck would pay that for a CIVIC

>>17079905
>porsche cayenne

lel

>>17079841
>floating

dummy

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>>17079934
people are willing to pay for real performance

How is this not one of the most practical but fast cars in that price range?
>5 doors
>Great Honda Build Quality
>Superb Handling
>7:43
>7:43
>7:43
>7:43

>>17079955
Yeah fast on a track but not fast on highway or what you'll be doing during most driving. Should be priced around 30k if they really wanted to sell in America.

I used to work for Honda engineering America and they most likely won't sell it in America because no one will be interested in that price. Sorry

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>>17079890
Please don't try to talk about cages when you clearly don't understand the physics behind them.

Cages have to be attached to solid, rigid parts of the car, otherwise they'll just tear themselves out of the floor if the car is rolled. Pic related is an example of what happens if you ignore that rule. The cage itself also has to be rigid to work, and when you connect several structural parts of a chassis, you make the whole thing more rigid.

My guess is that they put some kind of flexible bushing or coupling between the frame and the car. Like I said before, that's some weird shit and would never fly in a professional racing series, but they don't have to deal with those regulations so I guess they can do whatever they want. (I'd bet it's perfectly safe in a single-car rollover but wouldn't be able to handle a side impact from another car.)

>>17079931
I'll be interested to see what happens when the same driver gets in both cars. As noted in >>17079529 the driver who did 8:06 only did 8:15 in the last CTR. I'm not denying that the new CTR is fast as fuck, but these tests can be pretty deceptive when one time is set during a record attempt and the other is a magazine driver who did a few hot laps. I'd be shocked if the RS couldn't at least manage to break into the :40s if the driver had all day to shave seconds off.

>>17079967
>http://www.businessinsider.com/honda-civic-type-r-america-2017-3
>https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/auto/2017-honda-civic-type-r/preview/
Its coming to America boyo and you're going to like it

>>17079955

God damn I thought enormous fake vents died with Pontiac.

Why are you idiots even comparing it to the RS? The RS was never even close, not even to the last gen Type R. The Golf R was the real competition.

>>17079967
300+bhp isn't enough for a 2800lbs car on highway driving?

American isn't Germany, highways here have stupid low speed limits

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>>17079987
Literally where have you been the last 3 years? It's the biggest new industry meme.

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how do you like my version bois

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>>17079982
Well the argument is that RS has been out there and no one seems to post better times, the 7:50 on the last gen was done by Honda themselves but I think the reason Ford never really bothered by lap times because their marketing is going for the Ken Block crowd
>http://blog.caranddriver.com/thank-you-for-smoking-ford-explains-the-focus-rss-drift-mode/
>drift mode
Fucking really?

I just hate the new styling of the Civic and how large its gotten, I wish they had the balls to do a Honda Fit Type R

>>17080007
Still looks ricer only now there are no fake vents to distract from the body kit.

>>17080007
It's shit. The front looked good imo, it's the the wing, rear honeycomb panels, and rear doors that look like shit.

>>17080007

You closed off two vital vents for cooling and intake.

>>17080014
a fit si or r would be too cool

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>>17080014
>that feel's when no fit si

>>17080007
Looks better. Try rounding off the sharp corners on the wheel-arches.

>>17079982
Just strap the driver to the cage, problem solved.

>>17079955
>>17079967
My real question is what it's like to drive in the real world. You can make anything fast around a track if you throw enough tire and suspension at it, but you also end up with a car that's not good for much else.

IMO the real thing that will decide whether this car is one of the greats isn't how fast it is, but how well Honda managed to balance speed and driveability.

>>17080014
Ford's whole philosophy is different in general. Their cars are quick, but they've been pretty open about the fact that they prioritize "driving experience" over sheer speed. The RS would probably be a very different car if they'd built it for Nurburgring times. (And, IMO, probably a much worse car in the real world.)

I just really hope that Honda hasn't ruined the CTR in their quest for Nur records. They wouldn't be the first company to fall into that trap.

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>>17080035
>>17080052
Its one of those cars you can't really explain to a normie why you want it.

>>17080075
http://www.shizukiproject.com/#spec
i love japan

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>>17079764
Slower than the ford gt.

>>17079228
lol

>>17080075
the mugen rs kit for the 2nd gen fit is so nice I just wish it came with a bigger engine

>>17080093
That Beast is left to the NSX Type R to slay. Its more strategic to let the Ford GT have its day at the top. Honda will defeat it with the legendary symbol of Type R and be crowned king of automobiles.

Ford's day's are numbered.

>>17080111
K swaps are suppose to be really easy from what I heard, but the engine bay gets cramped because going 1.5 -> 2.0 or 2.4

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>>17080114
The GT350R already is just as fast as the nsx. lol.

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAA.
>a base model mustang is just as fast as an nsx
the ford gt will utterly annihilate that piece of shit.

>>17080129
>>a base model mustang is just as fast as an nsx

I really hate to defend the new NSX, even indirectly, but you might want to reconsider your sources.

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>>17080129
Don't you have some cooling issues to worry about? Oh wait your car is cooled by the blood of the crowds of innocent people.

Honda will reign supreme.

>>17080075
Kawaiii. Watching it race around the track is like watching a sicky girl trying her best.

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>>17080148
Sorry! It's actually faster! LOL
>GT350R
>1:36.11
https://youtu.be/9kPRxiOB48Y
>NSX
>1:36.36
https://youtu.be/dwD-WeY6Ivs

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAA. BTFO
>>17080163
>a supercar from honda can't compete with a base model mustang with cooling issues
and you expect it to beat the ford gt. LOL

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>>17080172
>>a supercar from honda can't compete with a base model mustang with cooling issues
>base model

>track oriented car vs luxury minded supercar
hmmmm

Honda has the power of dreams on its side.

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>>17080188
>track oriented
sure if you consider a riced out base model mustang "track orientated". the upcoming gt500 is the performance model lol.

>dreams
yes, in your dreams honda will actually be able to beat a base model mustang. lol

ford>honda

>>17080172
>>GT350R
>base mustang

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>>17080203
Keep believing your delusions, in motorsports the Mustang is already threatened by the Acura ILX, and Honda will set the new benchmark of Supercars like they did with the first NSX.

>>17080227
yep, the gt500 is the performance model. honda literally btfo. recovery impossible
>>17080230
>ford still has more f1 wins
>ford still has more le mans wins
sperg more

>>17080246
No dude, the base model is the V6.

>>17080256
nope the gt350r is. the gt500 iz the performance model
>literally mad about being slower than a Mustang
LOL.

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>>17080263
I'm not mad about the NSX being slower than a mustang, I'm mad that you won't acknowledge you lied about the base mustang.

>>17080246
>Ford, literally one of the first car companies
vs
>Honda, a complete underdog

Also you can't compare wins if only one of the companies was competing in that race. From a logical standpoint both companies have to be present. But you're a "Ford" guy so you probably don't understand.

Id love to be a mechanic on one of their teams. You would really get good at putting in clutches.

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>>17080271
it is the base model. lol. the gt500 is the performance model.
>>17080275
>damage control
sperg more.

>honda is such shit they can't compete with a gt350r let alone a gt500 or a ford gt

>>17080282
also ford is more successful in relevant professional racing series.

>this will trigger them
lol. assuming they don't ragequit of course

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>>17080282
Fuck you alphonse, you piece of shit.

>>17080293
What they don't seem to get is how great Ford really is.

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>Ford and Honda arguing over professional racing

Cute.

>>17080305
Don't argue with yuropoors anon.

>>17080305
gt500 is the highest performance model.

sperg more.

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>>17080316
There is no argument. It's just some small dicked white boi sperging out at ford's superiority.

reminder that ford has more f1 wins than honda.

>>17080318
It was for previous gens. It isn't currently though

>>17080336
it is though. sperg more white boi.

>>17080339
That's like saying the e55amg is the top performance e class. It was at a time, but not at the moment.

Trinity v8 was tits though

>>17079695
>make sportcars from the part bin of fucking dodge and chebby
>beat most supercars
(if its front engine its not a supercar)
>make supercar
>have trouble losing a v6 camaro

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>Gets BTFO by the older Type R
>Gets BTFO by the new Type R

This is why fake AWD is a bad meme

>>17079931
>RS 3 wins
>Type R 3 wins
>manufacturer lap vs literallywho magazine lap

Pointless comparison, neither is confirmed faster

>>17080349
gt500 is the performance model. sperg more

>>17080364
It's a fair comparison. If someone, anyone, thinks they can take the burgerking faster with the RS, they're welcome to try.

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>>17080371
Show me a single place where I can buy this mythical GT500.

>>17080382
it's coming in September.

>>17080371
>T. Autist who knows nothing about owning things
Must be hard being a minority

>>17080386
t. small dicked white boi

Enjoy getting laughed out of the bedroom

>>17080392
>T. Numale who's never even eaten butt

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>>17080417
nice projection

>>17079091
It can go as fast as a fucking supercar round there, the problem is just look at the thing. It's horrendously ugly.

>>17080424
Stay BTFO

>>17080439
no u

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I hope the new GT500 doesn't disappoint. i want (something) from Ford to get the bad taste of them not putting their best engines in their super cars out of my mouth.

>>17080471
the 3.5l is their best engine. dumbass.

v6>v8

>>17080481
>Alpacuck calling someone a dumbass

Just fuck off and kill yourself you autistic cuntbag.

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>>17080481
>0 le mans wins
>11 MPG
>Zero world records broken
nope.

>>17080493
t. small dicked white boi
>>17080496
>3.5l is faster around a track
Yep. it actually is. they chose it for lap times. sperg more.

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>>17080502
Ferrari uses a V12 Hybrid and is faster because of it.

Ford could've used a V8 Hybrid.

>>17080510
>v8
inferior to v6.

>>17079657
It's a fucking civic hatchback. They've never looked sporty, it's just the car scene makes you see them as so.

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>>17080518
I can't wait till they get BTFO by the Mclaren 675LT in a 3rd party test so you'll eat your words.

>>17080527
The ford gt is already faster than the 675lt and 488. ford already tested it.

sperg more

>>17080536
>ford tested
in the SHITUH

>>17080536
>ford already tested it.

kek

>>17080545
>>17080574
nice damage control

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>>17080582
>literally THIS enraged

>>17080603
nice projection.

>>17079581
idk 9th was a weird in between with the hood. good thing about these are the weight is lower than 9th.

>>17080607
kek so mad

>>17080619
stay btfo

>>17080626
I will. ;~;

>>17080643
stay btfo

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>>17079955
You forgot
>Most powerful Civic (if I remember correctly) of this generation is also a hatchback
Hatchback Civic's are the best looking in my opinion and are really useful for moving stuff.

>>17079852
Yeah but the mouth-gag on the RS isn't the best design choice I've ever seen

>>17079117
So they made it heavier and that's a good thing in your opinion? Lol

>>17080073
What gives you the idea that they engineered this car exclusively for the nurb? Genuinely curious because until it set that time I hadn't heard much about any connection between the two.
Seems flimsy, I'm more angry that my NA dream is ruined again by yet another TC hot hatch.

>>17081103
It's 2800 lbs, it won't suddenly become pigfat because of a roll cage.

>>17079967
you are the most clueless mother fucker

>>17081128
So why the mention of the roll cage. It wouldn't be a benefit in terms of track time.

>>17081179
If this is the same one they did a few months back the rollcage was primarily installed to offset the weight reduction from the removal of the AC and seats.
I'm not the original anon btw.

>>17081189
But I don't think so because I swear the GTI put out a faster time.

>>17079545
You can only get 400~ launches out of the clutch before you have the replace it, one of the many "enjoyments" the makes this car a shitty successor to the last NSX which had a focus on reliability.

>>17080502
Nigger

question: what is with the "t." meme? Idek how to find out

>>17081315
that's how finnish people sign letters at the end, sort of like "sincerely" or whatever

>>17079091
Okay, this makes no fucking sense to me. How does a Civic R set a faster lap time than an 09 V10 R8?

>>17081327
so they're signing off lol good meme

>>17081328
Racecar drivers and meme tyres. Also the Nordschleife is just a bunch of quick corners with shitty curbs that RWD and AWD cars cant fully take. A fugging meme track

>>17081328
Tires count for a lot when setting lap times. Manufacturers like to throw on the stickiest set they can get their hands on. Alfa Romeo even got Pirelli to make custom cheater tires just so the Giulia could set s 7:32 time.

>>17081372
>Also the Nordschleife is just a bunch of quick corners with shitty curbs that RWD and AWD cars cant fully take.

man i hear some dumb shit on this board but this is up there

>>17079228
Lmao, can you even get a tire through that?

>>17081372
>>17081392
>they didn't throw sticky meme tires on the audi and use a professional driver

yeah ok m8

Everyone plays the game to get the best possible lap times.

>>17081192
it had a 7:47 but from a certain trim that only 500 were made ie cheating

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>>17081417
Maybe a bicycle tire :^)

>>17081425
>Audi

?

Who are you quoting?

>>17081415
Its the truth tho. Most curbs on the exit of turns are high as fuck

>>17079967
how is all that torque and HP not enough for straight line driving? an ST is awesome for daily driving, and RS is better than that. IF THE TYPE R IS EVEN FASTER THAN AN RS, DOENS'T IT STAND TO REASON IT'LL BE GREAT IN HIGH WAYS?

>>17081444
the post before them was talking about the 09 R8

>>17081444
jesus christ anon at least try to keep up

>>17081425
Because audi really cares about laptimes. Kek

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>>17079228
KEK!

>>17081427
Thats not cheating

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>>17081451
The Type R is faster in the twisties, it's not faster in a straight line.

Or at least, that was the case with the last gen Type-R. I'm sure this one will close the gap somewhat in that regard, but still. That said, a 0-60 under 6 seconds is more than you'll ever need for the highway.

>>17081468
>have all your cars get completely BTFO by BMW and AMG on the track
>w-we weren't even trying to go fast! ;~;

top kek m8

>>17081475
It's not in the rule book, but making the absolute minimum of the number need to classify as a "production car" to get to secure the lap time "fastest FWD production car" isn't very sportsmanlike at all.

Why couldn't they play fair and offer that as a more standard trim instead they needed to tune a car specifically for that track just to beat Honda's Civic Type R.

>>17081502
It's alright m8, they still got completely btfo by an actual production car in the end.

Stupid, dumb, VAGinal scum.

>>17081474
Nice boat.

>>17081502
They didn't beat a normal civic type R but a prototype. Everyone knows it was on slicks

>>17081415
It is mostly high-speed corners, though. there are a few spots where you have to slow down and downshift to second or third to get through some s-curves or its whopping two hairpins, but otherwise you're mostly flat-out.

At least in low-powered shitboxes.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1YiQwqYV4s

Was it kar kino?

>>17081447
and this relates to drivetrain how, exactly?

>>17081530
there are no second gear corners on the nordschliefe unless you're slow or on a bike

>>17081546
Also here's the actual lap if anyone's curious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LAB4cZ2V3Y

>>17081548
What's the difference between taking the carousel in third at low revs versus going through in second revving the fuck out of the little shit?

It's about the same speed.

>>17080658
Literally butt-rekt

>>17081581
>unless you're slow
if you're in the carousel in second, you're slow

you'll also be losing time when you have to shift right after pulling out of it because there is a decent straight after

>>17081474
Does that come with a trolling motor as an option, or do you have to get an aftermarket one?

>>17081548
Yes because the awd/rwd cars lose traction on them

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>>17081607
>Yes because the awd/rwd cars lose traction on them

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>>17081607
>this is what awd/rwd cucks actually believe

>>17081616
Are you fucking ret? Watch some rwd/fwd memelaps. Drivers in rwd cars take the turns completely different because they can't take some curbs without losing the rear

>>17081621
Never said that fwd is bad m8

>>17081566
>It's different from an indistinct picture record of Volkswagen.Volkswagen is fraudulent.Because a camouflage is favorite in VW.

literally what did he mean by this

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>>17081631
Your telling me one of the most established race tracks with a reputation of being the benchmark of a car's performance is a "fugging meme track"?

>>17081631
>watch some laps
i've actually driven it, and you're a fucking retard

>hurr i know how to drive a track from watching youtube videos
kill yourself

>>17081645
>Volkswagen is fraudulent. Because a camouflage is favorite in VW.
lying about emissions and they made a super trim (only 500 made) of the GTI just to make sure they get the record for FWD car.

>>17081601
there's not much of a straight there though, unless you mean the one after the gentle right.

Even then you can't really open up for long. Plus, with traffic and slow old fucks in their Porsches most drivers tackling nuburgerking are going to be slower than they'd want anyway.

t. drove the ring staring at the ass end of a 911 the whole time

>>17081649
Why are you lying on the internet?

>>17081668
long enough that you're gonna have to shift an extra time if you come out of it in second

Is it good on the tougay tho?

>>17081679
Best Motoring will do a touge test hopefully

>>17081200
I want to know how often you launch your car that you think that's going to be an issue. 400 launches is ridiculous. You could take it to a street night at your local drag strip once a month during the season, get 10 runs in a night, and it'd last you 6 years doing that. And guess how many times you launch your car around an actual race track? Zero. You think race car parts are supposed to last you forever? The more hp your car has, the longer your clutch should last? WTF is wrong with you. Want a zero maintenance car then stick with your 120hp Corolla you jackass.

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>>17081671
>jelly and in denial
how pathetic

>>17081693
Du hast bestimmt jeden Randstein mitgenommen ;-) Bist ja ein echter Rennfahrer

Thank you OP for making this thread, /o/ is so comfy now that you have all these autists rev'd up and contained ITT.

>>17081689
Clutches are literally designed to take the wear and just be replaced, anyway. At a certain point, people are just looking for shit to nitpick.

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>>17081696
ja

>>17081711
Fährst mitm Motorrad auch über Kerbs oder?

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why is he such a jelly cunt lads?

>>17081451
>how is all that torque and HP not enough for straight line driving
From a dig, itll get btfo by awd with less hp and torque. Its the same with the ms3, st, and srt4s. They cant launch for shit

>>17081727
>implying new hondas or new cars in general are easy to steal
maybe except the stupid key-less cars

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>>17081723
;^)

>>17081727
>le professional car thieves meme

they make up for such a low percentage of car thefts, and probably wouldn't even bother with trying to steal a car worth $60k or less.

What you need to be worried about is Jamal and Tyrone, which is really easy to counter.

>>17081745
Und nu?

>>17081727
He wants to convince himself that his si is a better "all-around" car than the Type R.

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>>17081752
ich nicht bin ein berliner lul

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>>17080318
And it was still a pile of shit lmao

>>17079117
It wouldn't surprise me if they included it as an option. Nu-Honda pre-riced the Civic's exterior, so it's only a matter of time before they start ricing out the interior from the factory too.

>>17079181
>People will laugh at you if you drive one
Bus cucks on a Chinese cartoon forum aren't people.

>>17081307
t. small dicked white boi

>>17079581
>this Civic doesnt look like a turd
Now it looks like a WRX STi.

>>17081593
nice projection
>>17082011
stay btfo

>>17079898
I just noticed how totally ripped off the evo the front fascia is on the focus

And Honda seems to be appealing to the Subaru fanbois with the Type R. It is fucking fast, however.

>>17082036
>projection
>btfo
This is how you let others know you know nothing about automobiles

>Type R
>redlines at 7k rpm

>>17080029
those vents weren't actual vents.

>>17082048
stay btfo

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>>17082048
It's just busposting.

>>17082048
why are you replying to someone who's really blatantly """"""""""""trolling""""""""""

So the type r has better lap times than a mustang and camaro?

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>>17082092
What the fuck are you even talking about? This is why /o/ has turned to shit. Some faggot like you spouts out random bullshit and thus the meme fad starts.

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>>17081850
He doesn't even have the SI anymore, he sold it to buy a second EX-T. He admitted he can't afford a Type-R yet he bought two of the same fucking economy cars.

God I hate this fucking faggot.

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You guys are doing a great job making /o/ buttmad about the civic, however it can be better, I recommend you guys to make several threads pretendilng tl be inteested inna car that happens to be slower than this civic, like a 996 or an e46 m3, then after some replies just post >slower than a civic, and watch the assmad flow

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>>17082135
Also he's a manlet and a jew.

>>17082140
>honda brand advocate
aka unpaid shill

>be known to make affordable cars
>poorfags are your best customers
>make a car they can't afford
?????????????

>>17082168
>he does it for free!

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>>17080172
NSX is fucking trash. Try again Hondashit

>>17082188
That's what the SI is for.

>>17082218
yes, i know. honda a shit desu

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>>17082218
https://youtu.be/01XQzYz1c6I?t=500
>only slower by 1 second to the NISMO GT-R
>fucking trash
Try again.

>>17082188
That's always been the Type R models. Then they depreciate, poorfags get their hands on them and ruin them.

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>>17082271
>A second slower on a fucking 3 lap one minute track
That's trash
>gtr is 11 years old
Honda fags cant be this retarted can they?

>>17082188
Don't worry, these types of cars appeal to a very small demographic. The type r will most likely have sales similar to the 370z. So around 6k-7k sold each year, the first year will be its highest amount because its new.

>>17083269
>So around 6k-7k sold each year

Pretty sure they already said they're only making 4k.

Or maybe I just dreamed that, I don't know.

>>17079602

fyi the hatch like one is the old one, in one of the vids they said the new one is 7 seconds faster than the old one

>>17083317
According to the US sales data, the 370z sold 5,913 units in 2016. Which is a huge decline compared to what they sold in 2015, which was 7,391.

>>17083341
It's fucking old, what in god's name does Nissan not understand about this?

I read somewhere they had no plans to replace the 370z with a successor, which just blows my mind considering many people still confuse it for the 350z. In that regard, they haven't even really given it a chance to sell for several years now.

>>17083364
They really need to do a successor. The first two years the 370z was out, it sold 10k and then 9k. Which is pretty damn good for a Japanese sports car in the US. I really wish Nissan would go the retro route, similar to what Dodge did with the Challenger. I would totally be up for 280z or 240z rehash.

>>17081474
Nice catch m8! Where did you store the poles?