when was bmw dead to you?

When they made the F10 M5 and got rid of the V10.

>>17070274
When they stopped selling NA cars.

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>hehe I listed it again :)

>>17070274
right after the E30.... then it turned to your rich boy i dont know shit about cars. Also turned to good luck fixing it yourself you peasant only our engineers can get in there

>>17070274
When a BMW owner fucked my wife

>>17070350
>t. person born after E30 went out of production

>When everything started coming with an automatic or a dual clutch
>when they gave up on being a drivers car and focusing on their luxury image
>when they stopped selling wagons that were manual
And when the ultimately kill the inline 6 soon

>>17070361
? and what are you saying ...

When they positioned themselves as a luxury brand.

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>>17070361

lol this, so many hipster douches on here from reddit

>>17070402
tell me one car car that can be worked on buy your average mechanic and that has the same after market parts selection.

the look of the E30 is trash, but not as trash as the cuck lovers of /o/ who fucking love the homosexual miata thats for sure. also never have gone to reddit. im just a /sci/ fag passing by.

>>17070418
>tell me one car car that can be worked ...
meant to say by BMW btw.

>>17070274
E60 and E65

when they made the e60

>>17070350
E36 and E46 were fine. The decline started after.

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>>17070274
Fangirl's face when a soccermom BMW with a truck motor is faster and more frugal than their subpar Suburban

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bangle

>>17070274

When their engines became so shit that they had to inject fake noises into cabin to make it sound decent.

after the e92

when the "e' chassis codes got replaced by "f" and now "g"

>t.e90 owner

lol they havent died but just changed, cant say I wouldnt be happy as fuck in an m4, or i8. I saw some rich asian student driving the i8 and he seemed happy as fuck. but desu the newer 2012 and up versions are just for rich faggot businessmen, a sporty luxury car, almost all under waranty so they dont have to worry about whatever maintenance. But, the e24s, e30s, e36s, e46s are just damn classics in my mind. and maybe im a nieve faggot but they are still my favourite.

somehow i feel like the guy replacing the m of mazda by ///M is less pathetic than the owner of a "///M"550d

when they let a cuck design their cars

>>17070274
When they put an M badge on a fucking crossover.

Let me tell you something. I grew up in Iraq pre-shit fest. I was probably 5 years old and I saw what might have been an E30. This was the first car that made me think "wow". I grew up as a BMW kid but alas as the years went on, they got uglier and uglier and uglier.

That memory I still have, passing by the car on the hit summer day, looking at the mysterious blue and white badge and asking my dad "what's this car?" I still remember it so vividly. It was my first love, what I dreamt about getting when I grew up.

After the e9x chassis.

>>17070274
When I started driving and realised that they were exclusively driven by morons.
When one of their employees forced me to stop and then verbally abused me at length for DARING to go ahead of him at a roundabout, I realised that I would actively try and harm the company's sales whenever I could, and would never drive one.

>>17072137
On top of this, when one of their cars put a dent in mine without leaving a note, I decided I despised BMW drivers as well as cars and mechanics.
One day, I will exact genocide on BMW. Drivers, owners, employees, the lot. The cars will be recycled into wind chimes, and their factory turned over to making bicycles for children.

>>17072137
>things that never happened by 14 year old busrider

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>>17072144
>>17072137
>points to where the BMW touched him*

>>17070274
pretty much all the time between e36 and the M2. Since the M2 I like them again.

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when they made the 2 series GT

After they wanted to piss in Mercedes's market because the performance market wasn't good enough.
after the e36 and e46.
And now BMW gets cucked on all markets by Mercedes

>>17071100
Pretty much this M sport everything and making nothing of much interest since the e46 CSL, or possibly the 1M

>>17070418
e36 and e46 you fucking hipster and btw the e30 costs gazillions of yurcoins now, so fuck off

>>17072229
>BMW gets cucked on all markets by Mercedes
>BMW has higher profits, higher EBITDA, higher total assets and equity
Why are teenagers on this board special kind of stupid?

>>17072264
Muh profits
Mercedes sells more units you fucking autist also BMW has their faggy bike department.
Why are kissless virgins on this board a special kind of stupid?

>>17072264
t. Bus driver

>>17072275
>>17072284
>assmad Mercedes fangils detected
I'm sorry that an S1000RR>all

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When the M3 made the jump from straight six to vee aint

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>>17072354
>when the M3 improved

>>17072358
If the GTR & most Porsches can make do with six cylinders than the M3 can and should as well. Save the upper tier of displacement for the M5 & M6.

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>>17072364
>the i6 was so shit, even racing versions of the E46 turfed it for a proper engine
Why "make do"?

>>17072229
>Gotta make shit up quick

>>17070274
M550d is fucking hektik though
0-60 in less than 5 seconds is not bad for a huge sedan

With the 1 series haha baka

When the last E46 rolled off the line.

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When the lease market took over their business and M became a box you check at the dealership that gets you some cool stickers

>>17073588
This.

When:
- Sponsoring James Bond movies
- BMW SUV
- 1 series
- 2 series
- 4 cyl engines
...

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BMW 2 Series Active Tourer
I like their bikes still doe

>When they made the 5 GT
>When they didnt make an M5 GT

>>17073951
>4cyl engines
>>17074312

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>>17074327
>>17073951
>4 cyl engines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Dixi

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>>17070274
>when was bmw dead to you?
when they decided they were too good to compete

When they changed the M3 to be sedan only

>>17073588
So in 1985?

>>17070418
Get the fuck off my board normie. The E30 and it's design is a gift from the heavens above and you are not worthy to gaze upon it's perfection.

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>>17070274
>When they started selling fwd minivans with transverse engine

>When they thought selling 3-cylinder 3 serieses was acceptable

>>17070274
When they introduced the X3

>>17075291
What bmw engine is 3 cylinder diesel?

>>17075291
the 3 series never, ever has had a 3 cyl engine
that is a shitty memeball made by a clueless fca cuckboy

>>17075348
the 116d and 216d minivans have 3cyl diesels

>>17075375
Oh how i missed that, holy shit those performance numbers

>>17075348
Just checked the wiki and apparently they only offer the 3 cylinders as gas engines

>>17075365
The new 318i does :^)

>>17075365
>The BMW B38 is a DOHC 1.5 litre 3 cylinder turbocharged petrol engine

B38A15M0
Applications

>2014- BMW 218i (F45)
>2014- Mini Cooper
>2015- BMW 118i LCI (F20)
>2015- BMW 318i LCI (F30)
>2015- BMW 318i LCI (F31)

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When i did this

It's my favourite car brand again

>shitskins went for mercedes
>no more shitty bangle
>interiors got better
>back to the straight 6 in the M3/4
>the new bimmers are reliable no matter what japcrap shitters will say
>b58 is a blast

>Petrol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B38
>Diesel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B37

>>17075395
>318
Lmao the cheapest trim you can buy here is the 328, the 318 is some cuck europoor special

>>17075416
Don't forget the 316i exists aswell

>>17075384
0-60 in 10 seconds isn't bad for a family minivan shitbox. Not excusing BMW's manufacture of such unappealing vehicles, just saying.

>>17075416
It's a shame the 3 series is so pigfat now, back in the days of E30 the 318is was a respectable MUH HANDLING machine. At least the 4 cylinder 328i has over 200hp.

>>17075674
but a toyota sienna do 0-60 in 7 sec.

>BMW 114d
I am not making this up

>>17075787
No it didn't.
>inb4 fake 0-60.com times

>>17075807
I just took the first thing I found on google and might have been the AWD.

>>17070274
The first time I saw one of these I thought it was someone fucking around and putting a bunch of badges from 3 different cars together.

>>17077186
Na that's just how BMW attracts it's teenager buyers

right about 2000 when everything else went to shit

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>>17070321
I agree with this poster

>>17070350
E36 isn't bad

>>17075416
stop being ignorant

>>17070814
I agree, E90's were kind of charming in their own way, but the general decline began around that time, maybe a few years before.

When I learned that they offered the E60 M5 in manual in America but not in Europe.
That's just some backstabbing shit. I don't care about the economic arguments for this move, I just want muh manual V10 M5 here in Europe without needing to import one from the US.

>>17072264
>doesn't even bother to look up the numbers
well shitposted

>>17070418
Every BMW can be fixed by any mechanic in Europe, also lots of aftermarket in every model
>Americans can't even

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>>17073588
>my car has all the m stickers

Leave it alone, there was no ///M version of the car that year fuck off its only 30 hp less
pls

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>>17073549
>not with 3 Compact

>>17075375
BMW once lent me a 116d m sport for a weekend as a replacement vehicle
By far the best shitbox I've driven.
>120hp
>RWD
>6-spd manual with autorev match
>surprisingly rev happy and silent for a Diesel
>4l/100km

>>17070274
When ///M stopped being built by the motorsport department and became just another trim level, which was right about the time they switched from "E" to "F" chassis codes.

I know some people dislike them, but the E90/92 M3 was a fucking masterpiece. The S65 is an amazing engine and the cars themselves are spectacular and quite reliable if maintained properly. (I say this as somebody who worked for several years at a shop that specialized in M3s, BTW.)

>>17070283

This.

>>17073549
>>17078876
I'm actually unashamedly fond of both of these.
>3 compact=reskinned E30 coupe with same wheelbase
>1 series=compact hatchback with engine and drive at opposite ends with the option of a big six
Infact, apart from various 4x4s, a manual 130i would be just about the only reasonably priced late model car I'd buy (135 variants are a little out of my reach)

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when they stopped making E31 and started making this fugly piece of shit

>>17078937
>3 compact=reskinned E30 coupe with same wheelbase

As far as I know it's more like the back half of an E30 grafted to the front of an E36.

>>17078954
And I have no problem with that. Especially with the option of the B25 six.

When they designed and built the e46, a car with more problems than a Peugeot shitbox.

>>17075787
Doubt.png

>>17070274
>m550d
>4.5s 0-60
>6l/100km

Remind me how this is bad /o/? Or is just OP a huge nigger?

>>17079015
They will always have more problems than a Peugeot, it wasn't really what BMW was aiming for
Peugeots are pretty reliable and didn't have many options to go wrong back in the e46 era

>>17075397
>interiors got better
no. the rest is correct, though.

>>17079053
>6l
I can't get it to 6l/100km in a 435d, which is lighter and it's "just" twin turbo, not a triple turbo

>>17079095
>turbo count=fuel consumption
Only on /o/

>>17075397
>Reliable
Yeah kind of, but a 10 years old dct and twin turbos and all those electronics will be a pain to maintain.
they have nice build quality, but they are disposable, they are no built to last

>>17079086
They did tho compared to the last few gens

>>17079110
Why should I give a fuck about the problems the 3rd owner is going to have?

>>17079101
More air = more fuel
That's the whole point of a turbo.

>>17079126
If you are buying new it's the perfect car, but a brands reputation isn't only about how a car performs in the first 5 years
Why do you think Toyota gets all that hype?

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When they made this...
>Nothing says M Motorsports more then a 5.0 diesel SUV :^)

>>17079138
>new
More like if you don't buy it as 10 year old abused shitbox

>toyota
No one here even buys toyota anymore. They are basically dead in yurop and got replaced by hyundai/kia

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>FWD
Then and there. Next thing you know, they remove the kidneys and start making scooters

>>17079157
You don't buy it, but check the used car market and compare the price of an used Toyota and an used Hyundai from the same price range when new

>>17079167
>scooters
anon...

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>>17079167
hehe xd

>>17079182
And now what?

>>17079127
>More air = more fuel
That completely undermines the fact fuel economy is measured over distance, not just peak fuel rate. The fact of the matter is you'll have the capacity to achieve more "work" for a given litre of fuel burnt.
>That's the whole point of a turbo.
Not that it's relevant, but more turbos=/=more air. It does however aid power over greater varying throttle positions, thus the capacity to achieve more "work" over a broader spectrum.
Only on /o/

Ever since they dropped the ball on an e30 wagon in us market..

>>17079152
It takes the thunder away from the try hard GM crowd masturbatory over their new flagship sports Suburban... That's slower than a soccermum SUV with a truck motor lol

>>17079188
>>17079189
It's like finding out your daughter is dating tyrone the local crack dealer.

m550d is one of the best cars on the market now. 7l/100km with 380hp? i'll take it.

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>>17078916
Literally this.

Since this turned into kind of a BMW thread, can somebody tell me why a huge majority of new bimmers in Ireland are diesels?
My parents drove their 318d F30 into a pillar and I noticed all the cars in the dealership were diesel models (from the X5 to the 4er coupe. I though diesel was on the way out in Europe?

>>17079234
>Same engine + heavier car + extra turbo + magic = more MPGs

Dude I'm not an expert but from what I know turbos make a engine more effiencient BUT always making it consume more fuel, it's worth for the extra power, sure, but you can't make it use less fuel adding more boost

>>17079435
diesel still is the most popular choice in the whole europe because you save lots of moneys on gas.

>>17079435
Bmws don't care about petrol anymore, just in the M version
320d >>> 320i

>>17079315
>being this poor

I'm not a hipster by any means. But I notice a lot of douchey folks like young males who think they're hot shit driving and wanting to drive BMW. I think they have some nice cars such as the m3, I don't know enough about the brand to know why the image in OP is such a joke (please inform me), but I know i would rather choose a different car maker. If I'm gonna spend $50-75k on a semi-luxury vehicle I might as well get something not every cuck and wannabe has. I could spend a little more and get the Lptus Evora or something.


A friend of mine has an M series 300 something (it confused me because I originally thought only M1-6 existed) and he has it lowered with aftermarket mods and it is a total cuckmobile in my opinion. It is a pain to drive and although it is fast it just doesn't appeal to me in looks. Never drove it though.

>>17080707
>buying shit

When Bangle happened

>>17070608
This.

>>17075416
I thought the 328 became the 330 for god knows what reason.

Also, if the x4/x6/fwd minivans/fwd 1 series/pig fat m5/needless separation of the 3 and 4 series/plethora of electronic garbage (internet connectivity, anyone?) haven't killed the brand for me, than the fake exhaust note through the sound system has.

That there was probably what did it for me.

>>17079447
Again, you fail to take into account the work over time being achieved with that fuel mass. Just because something can flow at a higher rate, doesn't mean it uses more fuel over a distance.
The heavier car definitely does not help, you're right. But there's also the variable of the 435d driver above, who for all we know is a ham fisted retard who's entirely incapable of achieving manufacturer quoted economy.

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>>17070274

>>17070418

lol, every turkroach garage on the corner in my country is specialized in bmw, audi or mercedes. Its literally cheaper to own a german car than a japbox, since nobody has parts for a subaru or a civic