Name a better 4x4 protip you can't

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only saudis and other oily middle easterners like patrols
master race right here

>>17065973
Yet you see them the most in Africa, Australia, New Zealand, Russia, Inland China and any other hard to reach area.

>>17066001
areas*

>>17065869
>4x4 ad
> shows tug of war between two SUV's in 2wd
My focus can do that, too. Am I /offroad_god/ now?

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>unchanged for 40 years

Literal perfection, nothing else can even compete

>>17066023
>Drives a focus
I guess that means that you're the one to talk? faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv_rKqC88Ic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvbKE6R6Q_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soRKSRzlNWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dRYksyb2lw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5WDbPMbjE

LC79 is probably the "best" one can buy new today

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Isn`t the Patrol just a shittier version of the Land Cruiser and Pajero?

I dont even generally hate Nissan.

>>17065973
>>17066071
KGB tier cars, GET OUT OF MY THREAD BORIS REEEEE https://youtu.be/tUlVbU1BaII

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>>17066108

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjsStMS02J8

>>17066112
>implying KGB would ever be seen in a Niva

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>>17066124
Seriously, show me another 4x4 so good that they made a tractor out of it.

>>17066111
Other way around lad, the reason why there's so much hate for patrols is because of the price range when they initially sold, way more than the landcruisers but they're actually way better offroad and out perform them, unless you're talking about the really old patrols or the newer soccer mum ones. You can pick them up for really cheap now though although the running costs for them is fucked (they're thirsty as fuck) that's another reason why people prefer landcruisers, but take away money from the scenario and patrol beats the shit out of mitsubushi and toyota any day.

>>17066132

I have no idea what Patrols cost new, but new Cruiser already cost a shitload, especially vee-aeights. All of them are used as mallcrawlers.

Anyone who doesn't like patrols has never seen Ahmed bang off the rev limiter and soar up a sand dune.
t.burger

Wranglers are great and all but anything other than the 4.0L and your fucked

>>17066118
The thread title was a joke I made it that to piss off ford raptor fags since they always pull the same shit, lc79 is by far my favourite 4x4 that you can still buy to this day, Nssan went full retard and discontinued all of their good shit.

>good 4x4
>pigfat

pick one

>>17066148
If we're talking about 2002 when they first dropped the 4.8 patrols they were around 75k brand new for the TI variant and land cruisers were a lot less, you can pick them up for about 7k second hand here and 30k in gulf states brand new, when they first launched it though it raised the bar entirely because of how good it was during the time. I wouldn't waste my money on a new 4x4 because they advertise them as having good engines and all of that shit but they're absolute boats desu and the ground clearance and the ability to modify them is absolute garbage

>>17066156
They look pigfat but once you drive one it's the absolute opposite with all of the torque it has, one of the best things I have ever driven.

>>17065973
Emaratis are the ones known for patrols

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>>17066111
>Assmad toyocuck screaming "muh lamd cruiser"

Top heh

>>17066118
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug :DD

That is so sexy, how can Wrangler fags ever compete?

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>>17067363
(you)

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>>17067493
Toyotas already come donk'd from factory

>>17066111
>>17066132
Nah its like a LandCruiser from Nissan, they used to be worst than Landcruiser until they kept the solid front axle and Toyota moved on after 1998 so they have better axles (modern solid axles) and stuff

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>>17065869

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Nissan Patrol > Land Cruiser

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQm1C8BpXI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4p6hCwESSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_HsM-OYhnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gOfxaDETGI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F64XOZavS-w

https://youtu.be/1xDkYOfwx3A

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Patrols: getting towed out of mud by Landcruisers and Pajeros since 1951

>>17071635
>Pajeros

You're trying to bait at this point poorfag

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Landcruiser fags btfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THvU-yrZJtk

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>>17072306
I fucking remember that ad clear as day.
>Landrover not worth mentioning
LMAO

>>17072330
This is my favourite one desu https://youtu.be/wJNn_Wwz29o

>>17072228
How does it feel getting rescued by a poorfag pajero because your pooptroll cannot into offroading?

>>17072458
lol you're a dumb cunt

>>17072547
greater. comeback fuckstick.

Bump for more Landcruiser/Pajero carnage

>Landcruiser/Patrol/Pajero rankings
1HD>>>TD42>4M4x
FS5R50A>>>H151=V5M31
H233B=Mitsu 9.5">Yota 9.5"
Take that as you will faggots.

>>17075723
No one disputes this?

>>17066118
>Dual cab 70 series
Ugly as fuck, single cab ute or troopy only
>>17066148
I have driven a 200 series off road, they are great with just a lift and bigger tyres


Really anything with a turbo diesel, full lockers all round, and decent big tyres will get you most places. Winch and snatch for the rest

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>>17065869
TRICK QUESTION!

The best 4x4 is the one you own! Go out and have fun friend!

>>17076390
>Ugly as fuck
You're talking form over function in terms of J70 Landcruisers? Good job Mr Redundant.
And yes, J200s are fantastic contrary to what the Americans believe.

>>17066111
old petrols had L-Series motors? my favorite :D

>>17076583
That old thing that was completely out of place in this application? Sure...

>>17066001
>chinese zipperheads use them
kek no.

>>17076896
Wut

>>17075723
>>17076334
TB48DE>ALL that you mentioned

take this as you will faggot.

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You all are wrong

>>17076896
The whole world uses them except the United States, the best versions were only limited to certain countries that's why Toyota fags don't know jack shit about it and spam the same old "LANDCRUISER BEST XDDD DAH REST WORST" you fags are cancer kek.

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Based UN Patrol

http://www.trasco-bremen.de/armored-vehicles/nissan-patrol/nissanpatrol/#c244

>>17077441
I take it as wrong, but ok.
>>17077467
Literally what does a Niva have against a Patrol/Landcruiser/Pajero?

>>17077579
You must take a lot of cock too then.

>>17077579
1HD-FTE 4.2 L
164 hp (122 kW)

TB48DE 4.8 L
248 hp (185 kW)

^ 280 hp in Australian / Gulf spec models during 2002-2003 and electronically limited in later years.

>>17077625
>outright power
That's well and good, if your idea of a perfect offroader is something with a 250 mile range.
Good for day trips to take some fully sick flex photos for your 4WD Action forum avatar.

>>17077645
The petrol consumption is pretty fucked but on a full tank (including sub) it can get me roughly 840km

>>17077645
Just stating that since it was your argument to begin with.

>>17077667
>since it was your argument to begin with
Since when?
>>17077660
How big's your tanks? That's decent range for the petrol.

What does /o/ think of the 4Runner I just bought? I'm curious about off-roading in it.

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>>17077717
Pic related. I'm new to this. Where do I start?

>>17077704
>>17075723
Unless that was someone else

135 litres ~840 km from Broken Hill to Melbourne

I'd agree, but the 3.0 diesel is a fucking shitbox.
Have one in my SES unit, shit just bogs constantly and chews juice for no real movement.

>>17077734
Nah, that was me, but that wasn't based purely on power rankings. Hell, if that was the case the 147kW 4M41 would've come a close second to the 157kW 1HD-FTE with the older fashioned TD42ti off in a distant third. I have a fair few reasons as to why I ranked them as such.

And while that's not unappreciably bad economy, I still wouldn't accept that unless my vehicle was loaded to the hilt and offroad. It's the 20+km/L the petrol six cylinders get in these conditions makes touring quite limited.

>>17077779
I'm just saying that people complain about the lack of power of the lower models of the Patrols but then when you tell them about the more powerful one then they whinge about the fuel economy, you can't have both with today's petrol prices, it's either powerful and reliable with shitty fuel consumption or just plain shit to be honest.

That's why they're always the first or second best selling 4x4 in the UAE because the petrol prices are nice, they're powerful, reliable and have really good aftermarket support for them.

>>17077625
Also worth noting, that's the derated non intercooled HDJ78/79 power plant you've listed, not the full Monty HDJ80/100 motor.
>>17077740
Yeah, the ZD is pretty lame. At least the CRDi is not quite the grenade the early DDi motors were, but it's still not as dependable as even the Mitsubishi four cylinder diesel.

>>17077797
Whelp, I'm not the one complaining of the lower Patrol's lack of power.
From memory the TD42ti only makes about 115kW, but it's the way that power is delivered in which the peak number doesn't really tell the story. It can also achieve that output at WOT in some very arid conditions with a 100% duty cycle that's more important to me.
Not saying the TB petrols are just as bulletproof, but their power density isn't there. As a city slicker offroad toy they get top marks however, and I think it's a shame the amount of people who readily turf the petrol six in favour of an alloy LSx V8 instead of turbocharger the Nissan.

>>17077825
>Not saying the TB petrols are just as bulletproof
aren't* just as bullet proof
>turbocharger the Nissan.
turbicharging* the Nissan
I think the diesel particulate has gone to my brain.

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bump

>>17077825
If Nissan made the 4.8 turbocharged from the factory that would be so sick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AT_KeVk-yw

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>>17078407
Eh, no point if there's no market for it. It's generally simple enough to apply your own turbo setup anyway. A path that's been well trodden before.
Meanwhile, the Amerifails can keep stroking their dicks over that boat anchor they call a 300ci Ford.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xDkYOfwx3A

>>17078669
Did you hear how the worlds fastest SUV record was broken by the Nissan Patrol running a TB48DE block? and less than a month later there's already another one with 1/3 more hp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU_oAu4sqC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA8ElgCit1A

>>17078707
I normally lament Patrols and the demograph that typically drives them (seriously, patrol4x4.com is full of fuckwits), but all this talk of force fed TBs is almost enough for me to give up diesels, and buy shares in BP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7RkyMaOVPI

I'd be happy enough with a ghetto rigged TD manifold on a TB45 though.

>>17078732
They're honestly so fun to drive as a weekender, but as you said before they're not really good for weeks out on the beaten track or in areas with only diesel.

>>17077807

I don't see how the ZD has such a bad rep. It may just be the turbo models because our primary road transport is a fleet of privately owned urvans with the ZD30dd and you wouldn't believe me until you actually see how they treat these vans. I am talking full bore clutch dumps with the engine only held back by the limiter for every gear change with 21 people in the van.

That said they change the oil every 3 weeks because the engines are ran like that from 6 am to 10pm, drivers taking shifts.

>>17078755
Caribfag? Isn't that because the majority of ZD30DDs are non turbo?

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Is the patr/o/l /ourcar/???

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>>17066131
Trac master race

>>17077579
>Literally what does a Niva have against a Patrol/Landcruiser/Pajero?

If it breaks down you can fix it by randomly hitting it with a hammer like in Battlefield.

>>17079568
yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vXsC7fDbBo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wd36Vu3RRSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VoDR33SVs0

>>17080000
quads confirm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gsnuxli4Hk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ReeoP14GM

>>17079626
kek

>>17077579

Actual offroad capability. Enjoy getting stuck in the bog with your pigfat mallcrawler.

>>17081420
>Actual offroad capability
Nice unquantifiable claim Mr Shitposter. But all three mentioned have more if that than the Russian parts bin special anyway.

>>17079642
>If it breaks down you can fix it by randomly hitting it with a hammer like in Battlefield.
You've just described the Patrol/Lanndcruiser/Pajero. If the Niva breaks down in the battlefield you can warrant writing it off because it's a cheap disposable shitbox.

>>17066071
On top gear it almost proved to be a great off-roader, then breaks down just as they were coming to a consensus. Ruskis eternaly BTFO.

>>17077467
Looks like a Suzuki Swift that got pulled apart vertically. Plus you can't carry anything with you in it.

>>17077467
shitbox

>>17065869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNwh0wa84E4

>>17084989
those clutch knifes tho

>>17085023
yeah boiii

Bump for TB48DE madness

>>17089452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rezgc4no8DE

>>17065869
https://youtu.be/1Ay6IBvenys

>>17084989

>3rd gear power skid
>Going backwards