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Aprilia sucks

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Join the discord
https://discord.gg/qgU57gt

Daily reminder no one likes bikers

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Early for yamalube

>get all psyched to replace clutch internals tonight
>new springs are a millimeter below service limit
>all the bike shops around here are closed till tomorrow morning
reeeeee

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Just put a new handIebar on my bike. Was never able to stand up on it comfortably without awkwardly bending over. Also the stock bar was steel and all scratched and bent. Replaced throttle tube and grips while I was at it.

Got the KX High bend because the spec sheets show it to be one of the highest bends. Also aluminum because reason.

Took it for a spin and it is a serious improvement in comfort and control while standing up. Also better while sitting. But it still is not quite there in terms of height.

Thinking of getting another 1" riser mounts to put it where I think it should be.

I'm 6'2" 34" inseam. Anyone else have to go to drastic measures to get the bars up to a comfortable height on a bike? Any reason not to get 1" spacers for the mounts?

>>17064012
>clamp them in vice one at a time and pry them out longer

>>17064007
So? No one likes furries and those fags still keep doing their thing

>>17064010
>he couldnt handle a real R6 so he got the knock off

Any of you Massachusetts fags going to be at MOMS Foxboro tomorrow morning? They are doing an Indian demo ride. I'll be there

>>17064010
if you're going to post pics of your """"new""" bike at least post some fucking good pictures you mongoloid

>>17064033
Yeah if there's one thing cyclists have right it's standards for new bike pictures.

>>17064022
well, fuck

>>17064033
He's on restriction and not allowed to touch it so he has to take pictures of it in the driveway.

>>17064022
>>17064041
Just for fun clamp them in a vice length wise with only about 1/4 inch actually in the vice.
Crank it until it shoots out and see what kind of damage it does.

>>17064044
eheheheheh

brb

>>17064044
Apprentice incorrectly installed a pair of circlips on a hydraulic part we were servicing, they both flew off during testing. Punched a hole in the corrugated iron roof and were never seen again.

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>>17063991
>tfw no RS250
One day.

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>>17064047
>10 minutes ago
RIP.

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Posted in last thread but didnt get any replies.

In the market for a new bike, want something comfortable for long trips, has dem torques, has good handling, decent suspension and decent brakes.

My search has be stuck on a fence between the xjr1300 and cb1300

Which would you choose if both can be bought for around the same price?

>>17064189
R1 with bar risers.

>>17064174
decided to be a bitch and watch deadwood instead

>>17064189
have you looked at bandit 1200s at all? very cheap in my area.

>>17064189
CB feels a lot smoother around town, fueling seems to be dialed in with a bit more effort over the XJR.

Ask to ride 1 for a day or two then swap.

>>17064189
XJR looks way better and it's not a honda
but CB is watercooled and newer

I'd say XJR because it's only down 8hp, weighs less, looks better, slightly cheaper

but take them both for a ride and see what you like best

Dragging toe sliders and pegs on my fz09 while hanging off the bike. Am I just not hanging off enough or am I going to have to look into adjustable rear sets? Been riding 7 years but this is the first time I've had this problem. Had an sv650 and z1000 before which feel much "racier" now vs the fz09 which feels more like supermotos I've ridden. I have my first 2 track days scheduled for this year and don't want to have this problem then. Fz09 has fully aftermarket suspension so it's not like a soft spring/sag issue.

>>17064028
I wanted something quick, relatively light and comfy enough to put 3k miles on in 6 days. It fits the bill well

>>17064033
>>>/reddit/

>>17064302
The peg sliders on that bike are just excessively long.

>>17064309
I did think about hitting them with my grinder. But toe sliders are still touching down. May just be cause I'm in the mountains and is unavoidable as most turns are not flat.

>>17064233
>missing out on a Super Four because of a dumb 4chan meme
God help this man

I bet you calls Hondas underpowered if they're down 5hp too.

>>17064352
you unscrewed the peg feelers, right? also try working on foot position and aftermarket rearsets or rearset spacers

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>top quality bearing race driver

>>17064352
you can just unscrew the feelers

>>17064363
what am i lookin at here

>>17064352
Just take them off, or don't worry about them they grind down eventually.
Idea is it is cheaper to replace those than it is to buy new pegs every second ride because alloy pegs and all that.

>>17064369
using a large punch to knock new tapered steering bearings into place

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>>17064363
Fucking stop that.
Get a socket that just fits in there and bash it in with that just wtf.

>>17064369
Boipucci

>>17064363
enjoy your fucked up bearings

should have built a homemade press with sockets or something like i did

>>17064369
niggers niggering

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>>17064386
>>17064393
sockets are too hard and will damage the race faces, the face is too narrow for much of anything.
mild steel like this punch wont do shit to the hardened races
the wheels are much more of a concern anyways

>>17064416
>fucking crowbar not going to damage races

a socket spreads out the impact, that big ass pointy thing is going to put nicks in your bearing race, that's why you're not supposed to do it that way, and why bearing presses look like sockets

>>17064416
>sockets are too hard
Hit the socket with a soft faced hammer/mallet then you mongoloid.

>>17064429
>doesnt understand how hardening works
bearing presses are also not chrome plated or hardened steel. unless you have a socket within a few thous of the outer dia of the race it would contact the same spot the rollers do and that would give you chunky movement.

>>17064449
are you fucking retarded?
hardened steel on finely machined surfaces will fuck them up regardless of what you hit it with
thats why you always use a softer metal to contact your workpiece

>>17064449
dont force it

use a bigger hammer

>>17064458
putting dents in the bearing race is going to be worse lol, and it's gonna be way more likely to fuck it up that way than with a socket

>>17064363
That punch kinda looks like a chisel. It's not a chisel, right?

>>17064475
>mild steel
>denting hardened steel
u srs nigga?

>>17064479
some chinkshit punch, could have been a chisel at some point. from our old shop, if were any softer id just use sticks.

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>>17064416
XRR lyfe

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>>17064514
you still have the rubber band in there?
>tfw pads still have some life left

>>17064363
M8, you are seriously going full justfuckmyshitup retard right now.
Listen to the ample good advice being given to you. The socket is the way it's done, if the old bearing is not available, because you also fucked it into a mangled pile getting it out with that thing.

>>17064458
t. someone who has never worked with metal
>>17064511
>u srs nigga?
Yes you can dent hardened steel with copper.
The idea of using a socket is it spreads the force over the entire bearing rather than it being on a single point less than a millimeter thick.

>>17064530
well ill be sure to mic out the nonexistent damage if i ever replace them again, will that make you happy anon?
if it makes you feel better i use pocket knives to cut burrs off of motor armatures and blower shafts too.

>>17064527
thats the point m8 y'all are too easy to trigger

>>17064562
>shatters bearing
>damages sleeve
Don't come on dbt and complain to us when it happens m8.

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>>17064522
that's electrical tape kek.

I'm hoping my rear pads on the Tiger last through Moab.

Any opinions on a Honda VF500 F Interceptor.
I've found one for pretty cheap.

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>tfw

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>>17064628
Fun little bike but the carburetors are a pain in the asshole if you need to take them out.

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Make way for best bike. post your bikes

>>17064628
old bike, kinda heavy, not great for beginners, PITA to work on

I'm a "cager" with an MR2, but my dad has rode longer than I've been around. He beats sports bikes on his old R1150GS and wants a KTM 690 Duke next. Is this good? Rate my dad, /dbt/.

>>17064637
>>17064640

Thanks. I'm not new to riding but haven't had to do much in terms of wrenching besides basic maintenance. Is there anything else I should know? There arent many up for sale on CL and parts seem a bit tricky.

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>>17064650
sounds like a patrician-tier dad

>>17064650
Does he like Big goys.

>>17064652
If you can get it cheap then do it. >>17064637 was gotten for $350, ~$400 of parts put into it (with tires), and everything works gr8.

If you decide to go for it then buy a clymers/hanes shop manual and it will guide you through any maintenance you need to do.

Have to literally force the carbs in with a steel bar using leverage and we needed 2 people for it but besides that it's a good little bike.

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>>17064670

for jew

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>>17064639
>moving from a Chinese scooter to an Indian 1-step-above-a-scooter
Baby steps right?

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>>17064639
went for a nice ride today with my new tires and scrubbed off the meaty chicken stripz

Alright, which one of you is this

https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/mcy/6096264411.html

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>>17064701
>it runs like a raped ape

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>>17064704
what did he mean by this?

>>17064189
I bought a CB1300 when they came out in 2003.
Lovely ride, smooth and torquey.
Easy to work on.
Digital clocks, analogue style.
A little top heavy and prone to tankslappers.
A real man's bike.

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>>17064701

>like a raped ape

Every fucking time..

>>17064652
dont' do it, those V4's are a bitch to work on, and finding parts for those are going to be impossible. not to mention the early ones had oiling problems (not sure if that affected the 500s or what). also don't listen to this guy >>17064679 it's cheap for a reason, even if it is a cool bike

>>17064683
No No No you see im a multiculturalist.
>>17064696
I barely know how to operate a manual transmission and i have to go on the freeway tomorrow.

>>17064736
just slam it to 6th and open it up until you're up to speed

>>17064683
>Baby steps right?
yea, one day you'll actually use that knee slider buddy ;^)

>>17064683
your body shape reminds me of patrick starr

>>17064650
He's a lying twat, 1150s are heavy, aerodynamically challenged, horribly designed (flat twin) overpriced and hideous.
Only a fucking dunce on anything above a 750 sport would see his delusional arse overtake them.
3/10

>>17064769
>Only a fucking dunce
so the average sportbike rider

>>17064769
you're overestimating the average rider

Is the SV650 the best motorcycle ever made?
I've never heard of anybody hating on it, it's just such a solid, dependable, and versatile bike, with tons of power for both town and highway.

redpill me on the sv650

>>17064788
it's just a good all-rounder
>vtwins a best tho

>>17064788
>redpill me
go back to 9gag then kill yourself

>>17064755
won't it be likely to stall? and how is it stalling in a high gear. does it jolt you off if you don't put in the clutch immediately

>>17064788
Can do everything, but not good at anything. like the truck in motorstorm

>>17064777

This. My Dad also rides on a popular mountain pass in California, so you get plenty of people there with no idea how to ride the roads, despite owning pretty quick bikes. Some dude in a brand new R9T racer thought it was funny how much he was leaning that big 1150GS around the corners. Don't get me wrong, obviously good guys in sports bikes will walk away, but I just meant he regularly passes a few guys who should be much faster than him on his old fat as fuck adventure bike.

>>17064807
When I ride around town I just see a bunch of shitbikes, when I ride the popular riding roads I see a bunch of panigales and rsv4's with huge chicken strips

>>17064801
Also curious about this.
Can you even stall at a speed above stopping?
What will the bike do you if it stalls at speed?

>>17064825
it kind of stalls and starts again, but it feels like shit and you get some mad piston slapping

>>17064704
>>17064708
i can only assume its highly unpredictable and inconsistent

>>17064825
>Can you even stall at a speed above stopping?
Yes, you can try this yourself by putting along at 15mph, shift into second, pull the clutch in, then turn of the engine. You will rapidly decelerate and come to a stop. If you don't pull in the clutch you will most likely dump the bike at it grinds to a halt. This will happen at any speed, if you don't downshift from 6th as you approach a red light, the engine will eventually die and you will stop almost immediately.

If it stalls at speed you will start slowing rapidly, as if you started applying both brakes. Your best bet is to quickly shift to neutral and attempt to coast to the side of the road with hazards on, while keeping the clutch pulled.

>>17064704
>>17064708
Are you guys meming or have you actually never heard that before?

>>17064845
never heard it before but im 7 beers deep so maybe i have and idk

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Rode around drunk last night

Got extorted by police in the red light district.

Twas a fun night overall

>>17064853
vry blur pictur

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>>17064854
I was like 8 drinks deep

>>17064842
Pretty scary t.b.h

>>17064860
pls no die nigger anon

>>17064853
rode drunk once in my life. never again was far to stressful. I did get home just fine though

>>17064865
yeah but unless you fucking turn the engine off with the clutch out, or are past the point of running on fumes, it will never happen. Your first instinct when shit is happening on your bike SHOULD be to pull the clutch in, slow down, and downshift, which will fix the problem if you get into trouble on a bike. At the very least, you will at least crash more slowly, with a higher likelihood of the car(s) behind you realizing something is wrong/getting out of the way/slowing down.

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>>17064867
I'm gonna go out tonite without my bike methinks. Almost binned it a couple times on the freeway

is it true all aprilias are made in april?

>>17064879
right now? me and you together

>>17064885
Lmao it's 10am. Gonna go out after quali in 12 hours

>>17064881
cannot be true. in 2007 there was 2 versions of the tuono (2007 and 2007.5) the 2007.5 has more horsepowers and better brakes and can be identified by the lions on the little fairings on the side like in >>17064696. if it has the lions it has 1 lionpower more.

>>17064874
alri, thanks

>>17064165
What's so good about the RS250? It's just an expensive 250?

>>17064916
2smoke, if im not mistaken

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>>17064916
>58bhp
>150kg
whats not to like?

>>17064926
i want to FUCK that bike

>>17064916
It's a 70hp V-twin, alloy frame, inverted forks, dual front rotor, expensive 250

>>17064926
>>17064928
not bad

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>want to see if there's any particularly good way to put a phone mount on my particular bike for GPS
>just get forum links where half the posts are KIDS ON TWITTERBOOKING ON THEIR BIKE ARE GOING TO RUIN SOCIETY

>>17064945
anime faggot post boipucci

boy-pucky

>>17064947
Fuck off and ask the furries Australia

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>>17064952
anime faggot post boipucci

captcha related dank af

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flyscreen or nah?

>>17064965
a WHAT in the WHO?

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>>17064965
I recommend having one for spring yes.

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>>17064967

>>17064965
Naked bikes are a meme
STs are where it's at

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>>17064975
does the oe style one actually affect airflow? I'm reading varying opinions online. All the aftermarket ones that look effective because they're fucking huge are too ugly.

>>17064928
not 70 hp tard

more like mid 50s rwhp

>>17064977
that looks bad

>>17064984
70hp with aftermarket crank and valve plugs

what is the furthest you've gone to get a bike from CL/fleabay only to turn up and its a total junker

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>>17064982
maybe if this was trimmed down a few inches just to cover the cluster

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>>17064982
That one you posted wouldnt really do shit for stopping bugs, pic related is the one i use on my bike and it only stops about half of the bugs from hitting my helmet.

>>17065018
45 minutes and it wouldn't even start

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>>17065022
i mean its not exactly pretty but at least it tries to do its job.

>>17065022
jesus christ that's fucking huge. It's like a sail

>>17065018
30 minutes.
Drove 1,5 hours to buy my current bike.

That's half the country, so it feels really far away for most people here, I'm used to 2+ hours commutes though.

>>17064189
The XJR is oil-cooled and carbed istn it?

For gods sake take the Honda.

>>17065077
>Drove 1.5 hours to buy my current bike
>That's half the country
What the fuck?
thats like 150 kilometers?
and that is supposed to be long distance?

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>>17065022
My screen isn't even big enough to stop all bugs.

Just put a deposit on a R1200R, pick it up next wednesday

>>17065083
In a country that's 300km long and 200km wide, it is.

>>17065086
Noice, which colour?

>>17065082
Oh wow I didn't even pay attention to the year. XJR1300 didn't get fuel injection until 2007, why the fuck would you even indeed.

>>17064994
Which is easy to install since you need to service it every other month lol.

Used to own an RGV.

>>17065087
How is that even a country?
thats like smaller than tasmania...

>>17065087
>the pope buys a harley

>>17065084
>needing a screen to protect you from bugs
>PROTECT you from BUGS

this makes you weaker than bugs you know.

>>17065110
I don't need a screen against bugs, just stated even my massive screen doesn't help.
Actually looking for a small one for the summer.

>>17065104
Size doesn't matter if you don't know how to use it.

>>17065087
Netherlands?

>>17065088
The executive black/grey

>>17065084
Bugs are a complicated thing because they can approach from pretty much every direction. Like somehow I have bug splatter on my stomach on a faired bike, you'd need a dustbin fairing and even then some would find a way in.

>>17065115
what country is it?

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>>17064965

Yes, obviously

>>17065143
He got it >>17065119

>>17065129
Why not the s1000r?

>>17065169
he likes ugly bikes

>>17065184
>R1200R
>ugly

Go wash you mouth!

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>>17065169
>>17065184
>Sport bike vs touring bike
Are you being willfully ignorant?

>>17065192
>naked
>touring

>>17065189
Not really inspiring though
Why would you want a naked tractor?

>>17065192
>Touring on a naked bike especially when the RT exists

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>>17065192
but its superior in every type of riding

>>17065192
The R isn't a touring bike.
It's a comfy naked.

>>17065198
Because tractor life, best life.

>>17065110
Hit a bumblebee with my visor at 110mph, literally sounded like a gunshot.

>>17065202
It's one of those bikes that blurs the line between sport touring and touring I think.

A touring bike doesn't have to have a fairing, IMO.

>>17065201
It's also a high strung 4cyl vs a big lazy proven horizontally opposed 2-cyl

>>17065169
because the R1200R has more low end torque, and is more refined than the S1000R

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>>17065207
meh

>>17065229
>Close to max torque through rev range
>Max torque 4k lower than the 4cyl

>>17065207
>refined

us that how they call this ridiculous front suspension?

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>>17065234
Agreed, I'll take the lazy twin, thanks.

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>>17065235
The USD forks?

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>>17065234
>max torque is 4k lower
>redline is 3k lower

>>17064788
Did my DAS course on one. It's just... fine. There's no problem riding one, but I have absolutely no desire whatsoever to won one.

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>>17065240
>Wanting a narrow powerband for a DD/tourer

If that's your thing, sure.

Secondhand bike, went to lube the chain and found a tight spot. Apart from that, the chain is fine (not stretched, no rust), sprockets are fine. Worth fucking with it and bending the link, blasting with extra lube, etc? Or just accept it's hoopajouped and drop £80 on a new one?

>>17065253
Cook it in paraffin.
I've had a few chains get tight spots, even with a scottoiler, some lasted 5k's before getting too noisy, some kept till I sold the bike.

Should do sprockets and chain at the same time, IMO just hold it out and give it a good clean.

>>17065248
I wouldn't call being over 75% of maximum torque from 4000rpm to 12000rpm a particularly narrow power band

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>>17065248
>the S1000R has a narrow powerband according to /dbt/

do you even listen to yourselves.

>>17065260
>/dbt/ is a single entity
K.

>>17065259
Narrower. I agree, but like, don't.

>>17065239
thats not what this
>>17065192
thing has

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>>17064788
>solid powerband
>teaches you not to chop your shit
>aftermarket out the ass
what's not to love?

>>17065260
Lmao

>>17065267
what did you do to your bike mang?

>>17065264
They went to USD forks after 2015.
They only removed the telelever to cut costs.
The GS's still have it.

It's a pretty good system, don't know why people hate it.

>>17065272
lopped ~10kgs off of it
ye it looks janky, i'll fix it someday

>>17065281
Just a simple satin/brushed ally flashing or something to cover the rear subframe would look mint.

>>17065284
i was thinking of sourcing a tail section off a crashed RS or RSV
mounts should be similar and i'd fix the undertray
too bad i'm poor

>>17065258
>Cook it in paraffin.
Though that only worked on old non-O-ring chains? Paraffin would wash out all the grease packing.

>>17065288
>Poor
>Aprilia
Best idea

>>17065292
>implying implications
i do the servicing myself and i've already solved the bi-yearly attempted self destruct

>>17065292
out of all the aprilias you've picked one of the 2 with a solid engine

>>17065291
True, but I've always figured if a link got rusty/overheated and started to seize, something is fucky either way. The seal may still be intact, but maybe the grease is gone or it's just not able to make proper contact.
I oil my chains pretty much every other day since I routinely do 700-1000km a week.

can someone link me to the video of the guy riding on track, the guy in front of him highsides and flips his bike, and the fucking bike comes flying towards the guy riding behind him form his pov?

i cant find it

Cleaned my carbs after getting random flat spots and sometimes unstable idle.

Didn't manage to take the carbs apart, so I just sprayed carb cleaner into the throats of each. Took a loooot of cranking to get up, but now it sounds a fuckton more aggressive and idles stably, but im worried it's sounding that way because I haven't tightened something (even though I made triple sure to leave everything as I found it) or I've lost a cylinder or fucked a spark plug when cranking or something.

Should I be worried about the "improved" sound, even if the idle issue seems solved and it seems to rev cleanly now?

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What helmet i should buy? Im thinking about pic related.

>>17064870
I rode drunk once to a petrol station to get some cigarettes, it was more or less a mile long straight road. I gradually kept veering towards the pavement (side walk), so I occasionally I'd have to stop and point the bike straight then set off again. I was wasted, never again.

>>17064916
It's stupid quick, stupid fun, and glorious 2 smoke.

>>17065380
great if you don't mind being a no jaw

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>>17064639
Have other plans today, but tomorrow I'll go for a nice ride.

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Thinking about getting something like this. Looking for a good farm bike, something low maintenance and reliable. It has to be able to sit for a few months and still start.
It's a toss up between the Honda or a DRZ. Personally I prefer a kick start though.

(Couldn't use a URL shortener because 4chan thinks they're spam for some fucking reason.)

http://www.bikesales.com.au/private/SSE-AD-4668089/2001-Honda-XR400R/?cr=0&psq=%28%28%28Make%3D%5BHonda%5D%26Model%3D%5BXR400R%5D%29%26%28%28%28%28SiloType%3D%5BBrand%20new%20bikes%20available%5D%7CSiloType%3D%5BBrand%20new%20bikes%20in%20stock%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BDemo%20%26%20near%20new%20bikes%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BDealer%20used%20bikes%5D%29%7CSiloType%3D%5BPrivate%20used%20bikes%5D%29%29%26Service%3D%5BBikesales%5D%29&pso=0&pss=Premium

>>17065424
>farm bike

Get an xl650, Im assuming you wont be doing tight single track stuff all the time, and you will appreciate how much better it is on the highway if you live far from the nearest town.

Also easier to work on

>>17065404
is jaw really important?

>>17065433
just get full face/hybrid

does a minibike count?

>>17065317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkaKU8yzt3g

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>start bike with choke on and immediately switch to half choke (as per the manuals intructions)
>immediately struggles and stalls if I give it any throttle
>can get it to rev with choke fully on but it will stall if I let it idle
>after about five to ten minutes of fucking around it seems to warm up or something gets cleared out and it will rev without choke
Anybody any ideas what's up?

In the past it was a simple matter of a little throttle and full choke, fire it up and switch immediately to half. Give it a little gas and build the revs slowly to warm it up, for at most a minute even on cold days, then turn choke off and ride.

Recently cleaned my carb but might have done a shit job of it...

>>17065461
seems like the problem is your wrenching doesnt it?

>>17065461
Leabe it idle with thr choke full on for a minute.

Ive had to do this with every bike and atv ive ever owned on cold days, its normal.

>>17065429
Are they heavy? I like the idea of being able to throw it around when I want to.
It won't all be tight stuff, but my property does have a lot of bush and small tracks.
Not worried about road stuff.

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>>17065467
Thanks for your input. pic related
>>17065470
It won't idle with the choke fully on but it will rev. It will idle at half choke but not rev without stalling.

>>17065479
Just get a dr650.

Already getting bored of 75 hp. What amount of power never gets old?

>>17065492
None. Take your pleasure in skill and technique.

>>17065492
>bored of 75hp
Go find a road with a turn.

>>17065479
Not too bad

Not drz400 light, but if you're put putting it wont matter.
>>17065481
Time to take it apart again, have fun

What are the best high mileage sport touring tires?

>>17065577
Car tires

>>17065577
TKC80

>>17065492
Around 100 is perfect. Learn to turn fast af

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>>17065229

>>17064013
You're supposed to be hunched forward a little while standing. It's hard to not get flung off when standing bolt upright.

I tried bar risers for a while on my KLX. They ended up making it more awkward and my shoulder would go numb when sitting for a long time

>>17065627
>he never breaks 9000 rpm

Why do you even bother riding a bike?

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When my bike is on the side stand should the rear shock be fully extended or slightly compressed?

>tfw not sure if damaged or just always shit

>>17064416
Use the old bearing races to push in the new races

>>17065665
As a means of transport

>>17065671
Slightly compressed, the weight of the bike is still on it. If it's fully extended it'll pull off the floor the second you use the front brake.

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New Marquez reps in the mail! Should match my Indy rep pretty awesome.

>>17063991
right today I rode fast on that OP pic related piece of shit for the first time and holy shit
you guys warned me, but I had no idea it was THAT brutal
I'm starting to re-think my purchase, it really is scary

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Want

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>>17065702
>just respect the throttle and everything will be okay they said

>>17065470
Same here, do this.

>>17065701
Muuuuuuuurica

Arai helmets worth the money or just a meme?

>>17065705
>eurocucked engine

>>17065733
>125 hp and candy lime paint

My dick, as they say

>>17065671
depends how fat you are.

>>17065705
>>17065733
Does anyone know if the UK gets proper bikes now that we've told the EU to go fuck itself?

>>17065731
worth the cash if they fit your noggin properly

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>>17065744
>proper bikes
What do you even mean.

>>17065707
it's terrifying because if I let off the throttle engine braking comes in (and it's mild since it's a relatively small displacement two stroke) but if I get even just a bit back on the gas when the revs are still high it gives a powerful kick
also, the front lifts so easily that I nearly shit my pants

>>17065749
Ones without the shitty Euro4 emission standards

>>17065705
>that windscreen
it's like if botticelli sneezed on one of his paintings after finishing it

>>17065627
Are you retarded

>>17065461

I have two carbed Japanese inline 4s (a 600 & a liter) and I leave it at full choke until the engine starts to run at high rpms and then give it a 15 count before I go to half choke. Takes 20-30 seconds in total depending on hold cold it is that morning.

>>17065750
cre
ti
no

>>17065461
My DL-1000 has no choke. My KLR650 has one, I leave it on full, for about 30 secs and it is warm enough to have no choke.

>>17065461
you can solve a lot of issues by going up one pilot jet size and resetting your idle air slightly richer.
makes it a lot less tempermental and runs cooler

>>17065461
is it really a problem to leave the choke fully on for a bit more time?
my bike needs like 15 seconds of full choke otherwise it shuts off if I even slightly lower it, so yours doesnt really sound like a problem
if it didnt use to be like that, then it's likely because the tolerances have changed, so it should be back to normal after an engine rebuild (this doesnt mean that you must rebuild the engine because of this)

is degreaser safe to use on rubber hoses? i know dish soap is frowned upon, and silicon spray is argued about a lot, so should i just rinse them gently with water?

How are R1150GS'?

https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/mcy/6089173354.html

>>17065761
That shit is there to curb the fucking emissions bro...
I know I know, you are manly man with your beer gut and spaghetti thin arms and you dont care about the environment...

Doesn't matter, half your jobs will disappear over the next 10 years, suck it Britfag

>>17065816
no, just leave it on till the bike is warm enough to run normally, if youre concerned about the revs while its on just slowly open the choke till it calms down

>>17065835
depends on what type, gunk engine brite is all good afaik

>>17065841
good bikes, heavy, comfy, run for a long time.
just be mindful that repairs can be a bitch and expensive

>>17065835
petrol works nicely

So dbt

Why is that in the bike community at large, dirtbikes, sportbikes, naked bikes, UJM types and even those mongloidly huge ADV bikes are all accepted and generally not frowned upon, but Lord have mercy if you ride a cruiser (metric or otherwise) you deserve ridicule and all horrible words of the english language thrown at you??

Hell, its even quite common on dbt threads.

Can you answer why riding a cruiser is wrong??

>>17065705
all I see is pepe's face in that bike

>>17065863
slow, heavy, boring, poser bikes with no real purpose.

>>17065863
>dirtbikes
good for gravel
>sportbikes
good for fast
>naked bikes
cheap and easy
>ujm
good middle tier
>adv
comfy
>cruiser
back pains, no clearance, shit turning radius, awful audience

sumo fags all the same: bikes not even that bad, owners all jumpy faggots

>>17065863
They're fashion accessories. Anything you can do on a cruiser can be done better on another type of bike.

>>17064945
I have a Ram Mount that replaces the factory clamp for the clutch reservoir that looks almost OEM.

>>17065879
you can't larp as a hells angel during your mid life crisis on any other type of bike.

>>17065863
every experience ive had with cruiser/harley fags has been negative.

I swear to fucking god I was kicked out of a charity ride event because my bike was "too loud" and in reality it was because I was the only sportbike in a sea of loud ass harleys

>>17065863
For one there's a stigma around cruiser riders even among non-bikers that they're try-hards who want to act like they're an outlaw biker.

There's also the stigma around harleys in particular, a lot of harley owners are diehard harley fanboys and talk shit about pretty much any other bike. If you ever go to a harley meetup you will definitely understand what I mean and it definitely turned me away from the harley community even though there is a massive amount of resources out there for them.

They're generally more concerned about the image of riding than actually the riding itself, they're not really meant for maximum performance but most are gigantic motorcycles and it's common to fit pipes that are really fucking loud because it's just what a cruiser has (around here).

They have a few drawbacks inherent to their design: pretty much all very heavy bikes for a relatively low power, poor suspension and ground clearance makes handling inferior, a lot have an enormous displacement so fuel economy is not as good as you might expect

These are just generalizations though.

If you want a cruiser then by all means get one, they have some drawbacks but they're still motorcycles and are still fun to ride if you like riding. Have some self esteem and just give them a try but still try other things to get an idea. I'm not interested in them much personally but if I had to pick between not riding anything and riding a cruiser, I'd still ride a cruiser if you feel me.

>>17065875
>cruiser
>back pains, no clearance, shit turning radius, awful audience

Some cruisers have absolutely fine ergonomics, considerably better than many sportbikes.

>dirtbikes
Shit for anything other than gravel
>sportbikes
cramped ergo, highstrung engines/needs revs,
>naked
cheap, engines without character
>ujm
see above
>adv
high center of gravity, slow, heavy

See, its easy to list all the negatives for each type.

>cruisers
Usually Vtwins with torks, low center of gravity, easy/relaxed to ride, comfy...

Granted SOME of the audience of mainly HD are incredibly obnoxious, but the same applies to some Ducati riders and a whole slew of sportbike squids....

So I ask you again, if I want a torquey, relaxed 2wheeled transport, why is it wrong for me to wanna ride a cruiser?

Oh and the poser argument is fucking hilarious with your aftermarket slipons that are all noise and hardly any performance gain.

>>17065816
Starting is just much more time consuming and difficult right now. I'll just pull the carb and try to clean it better than last time.

>>17065935
>if I want a torquey, relaxed 2wheeled transport
Big displacement sport tourer/adventure bike do the same thing.

>>17065925
>a lot have an enormous displacement so fuel economy is not as good as you might expect
1600-1800cc and somehow only get 76hp out of them and the 40mpg that people seem to get is about what id expect from such a weak engine

>>17065925
Thank you for your well argumented input anon....

Though your complaints mostly pertains to harley riders, of which I would tend to agree.

I dont want harley mainly because I think they are not worth the premium price.

Oh and I intend to get a cruiser as I prefer torque as opposed to revs, I am just curious why people choose to hate on a general basis... Much like the mentality of harley riders

>>17065950
I am sorry, do you know how torque and horsepower correlate??

Big v-twins are massively undersquare which results in lots of lowend torque but low redline (and thus low horsepower figure).
Much like that MURRIKAN MUSSSEL v8 one hears so much about...

>>17065953
there are other bikes with large displacement that are actually capable of leaning over

>>17065848
Savage

>>17065935
you don't need our permission, you know

>>17065901
haha, thats funny I see more midlife crises on S1000RRs than Harleys around here....

>>17065627
>Comparing torque to power

>>17065994
I wasn't trying to imply that was the only crisis bike, just identifying a unique function.

>>17065991
I am not asking for it, I am asking why some in here have such disdain for cruisers?

Personally I have had more bad experiences with sportbike riders, but that doesnt make me hate sportbikes

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Torque to weight is the only metric that matters

>>17065971
yes i do and i also know how fucking gear ratios work.
a lower torque bike that revs out to a much higher horsepower will still walk all over a harely at any point.
but i guess when your bike weighs upwards of a a small car you need 100ftlbs to drag its lardass off the stoplight.
76hp is 76hp, its the total power available, and the sv650 makes that much power with literally a liter less size, and guess what, it can deliver the same torque to the tire through the transmission. its why we have the fucking things

>>17066005
Truth is, most cruiser riders are bro tier

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>tfw will never be able to ride a dual sport because 5'8

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>>17066012
we can go deeper

>>17066005
We've already told you. It's the same answer everyone who asks the question gets. The bikes themselves excel at nothing performance wise. The reason people buy them is because they like how they look. If you want to cruise and have a big engine get a BMW K1600.

>>17066021
my dad and my cousin are both about 5-8 and do just fine.
whats your excuse?
>you arent supposed to put both feet down on the DS

>>17065849
I know, mine was a rethorical question

>>17066021
>tfw thought I wasn't a manlet
>turn out I'm 5"8

>>17066021
You can ride whatever you want. Many dual sports aren't even that tall. Lowering links and sliding your ass off the saddle to put a foot down are things that people do.

>>17065953
There are a lot of bikes with a very upright position, lower rpm torque peak and better all around performance than you can get with cruisers, most mid-weight bikes are moving to 2 cylinder engines because people want a low range torque. The one thing I can think of that cruisers in particular offer is a pretty low height and long steering rake which is why they feel so stable at speed.
I think people hate on them because they can't look past whatever gives them the maximum performance/cost/whatever spectrum they rank bikes with; not everyone wants to ride fast with as much lean as they can get and carry their braking through turns or generally ride as intensely as they can, and people just can't imagine riding at a slower pace. They're called cruisers for a reason. It's just like how people shit on economy and heavy cars because they aren't at the upper end of the performance scale, even though it is still a car and you could definitely still enjoy the actual drive you take it on.
tl;dr people hate because they don't want people to like what they don't like

I think if you give a bunch of bikes a try and still like everything about the cruiser then you will be happy with that bike and that's all that really matters. It's not the bike but the rider.

>>17065950
My bike put about 145hp on the dyno and I still get around 40mpg when I really give it the beans. Not at track pace though (about 30mpg), but way better than what people expect from the agricultural performance a lot of big cc cruisers put out.

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>>17064639
Got stuck in the centre of our second biggest city with this beast, without knowing where the fuck I were supposed to go.

>>17065421
Where are you planning to ride?

>>17066039
>>17066036
>>17066028

it's bad enough that literally no girl will fuck me because of my height, but now I can't even enjoy any hobbies to take my mind off of it

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>>17066053
5'8 guys can still date and girls tend to fuck their boyfriends

>>17066053
get a fucking DS and learn to ride it.
its not that hard to figure out how to put one foot down instead of flatfooting like you wanna duckwaddle like sportbikes and cruisers do

>>17065744
The UK already gets proper bikes, what do you mean?

I can only assume you're a nobike

>>17066061

if you're 5'8 in america, literally no girl will touch you

I have an attractive face and i'm really intelligent (I study marxist philosophy in my free time) and yet i've never even kissed a girl once in my entire life at 22 years of age.

It's fucking unbearable. Not to mention that Drumpf has only made this place even harder to enjoy living in

>>17066042
I meant better performance for fuel cost
I have known quite a handful of different people that swapped their big cc cruiser for a smaller bike because for some reason there seems to be an idea that cruisers should get 60mpg just because they're big tractor engines, which just doesn't happen unless it's strictly steady speed highway riding if they're on the right bike.

>>17066072
>(I study marxist philosophy in my free time
>Drumpf
stop being a fucking faggot and you might get somewhere

>>17066072
One of my best buddies is 5'6 and is engaged to a cute blonde who cooks for him and helped him through law school

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>>17066072
>intelargent
>marxist philosophy
>drumpf
>5'8"
ahahahahahahahah
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>17066086

sorry, i'm not exactly in the market to pull 80 IQ redneck girls from your hometown in rural West Virginia

>It's a "everybody crashes out in FP3" episode

>>17066091
if you think your only choices are liberal feminists or backwoods inbreds, you're dumber than the 80IQ redneck by a long shot.

>>17066072
You deserve your fate for being such a fucking societal assassin who puts females on a pedestal.

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>tfw 5' 9"
>will never have a 6' 2" gf

>>17066091
>>17066072
Excellent bait :^)

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https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/mcy/6097973321.html
>$4200

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>>17066091

>>17066150
>$1
>$4200

Why do people even do this?

>>17066160
because if he listed the price in the title everyone would know hes fucking retarded and not even click the link

why are yanks obsessed with IQ? its an arbitrary test and has no baring on a humans potential success in any field. It measures your learning up to that point not your physical limit on cognition.

>>17066150
wot m8 it's only a dollar

>>17066072
Ignoring all of the highly visible red flags with you post,lLet us see and decide on you face.

Its a noob question but i cant find consensus about it
when exactly should i use the clutch and gear lever when im shifting?
for an upshift should i pull in the clutch and wait then click the shifter in on put a pressure on the shifter then click it in as soon as i pull in the clutch?and downshifting is the same question really

it feels smoother to just pre load the shifter for up shifting but down shifting is kinda unpredictable. im not talking about clutch release to the wheel but you can hear and feel the crash inside the gearbox sometimes on up and down shifting but im not too sure

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>>17066170
>>17066170

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summoning XR650

>>17066170
IQ measures your cognitive abilities
it has many different sections testing shit like short and long term memory, rational thinking, problemsolving...
a proper test, carried out by a real doctor (not some online survey) can give you a very good estimate of your potential

i tested 137 and i'm a shitcunt who barely passes exams so don't think it's some end all be all judgement on your character

N >>17066217
E >>17066217
W >>17066217

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>>17066210
Super Euro Meet: the beach episode when?

>>17066211
>can give you a very good estimate of your potential
>except I did it and it didn't

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almost ready to ride again hnngg....

>>17066005
>I am not asking for it, I am asking why some in here have such disdain for cruisers?
heavy, ugly, sound like shit, owner usually wearing S&M gear, and they come to the touge to ride 5 under the limit and rev a lot

in short, KYS

>>17066226
>here anon, it says you could be super good
>i don't wanna put any effort tho
geniuses are lazy :^)

>>17066072
So here's the deal, you aren't really that smart. Mainly because you lack problem solving and analytical skills.

You did well in school with minimal effort purely because school only requires regurgitation of knowledge, this inflated your ego and makes you think youareverysmart.

So in the end you are short, not good looking, and can't apply the knowledge you've absorbed, if you were a girl would you date you?, absolutely not.

>>17066468
Christ, m8. This is /dbt/.

Kawasaki W650 or W800

Anyone with any experience?

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Should i buy a new yamaha fz10 or a new r1?

>>17066830
fz10 is better value I think so it depends on how poor you are

how nice would it be to have an updated /dbt/ map, i think it woiuld be real nice