What is with all the autism over displacement?

only relevant metric is power to weight

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No shit. That's should be common sense for most. However, Europeans have been brainwashed into thinking the only thing that matters is hp/l.

>>17062392
this always take a lighter engine, especially if its also larger.

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>make 500 hp out of 8 liters
>IT'S A FEATURE

>>17062406
Yup. Aluminum v8 > iron i4 with turbo and intercooler

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>>17062418
>what is delicious torque nectar

How the fuck do you only get 1200hp from 16 cylinders and four fucking turbos? And here's the kicker... It weighs almost as much as a fucking Cummin's.

>>17062375
No you see i make over 135hp/driven wheel :^)

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ITT: dumb americans who took trolling serious

>>17062443
Why doesn't your butthole country build the worst's fastest production car if you're so much smarter about everything?

>>17062443
Its meant to be reasonably reliable.

unpopular opinion: Because of wind resistance, to truly get more and more top speed you simply need more displacement. Forced induction won't carry your car as far as pure cubes (pubes lol) can.

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>>17062418
645hp and 600lb-ft that lasts throughout the entire rev range, thank you very much.

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>>17062455
They have. A 1200hp street car out performs it in most ways other than useless top end which gets beat by a shitty Cessna plane.
"production" is irrelevant here.

>>17062460
It isn't though. Even with 5 figure yearly maintenance work. They can't even handle idling in traffic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72jjJNdyFAw

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>>17062482
>Henneshit
Not production

>>17062482
> "production" is irrelevant here.
PPFFFPFFPF AHAHAHAHA ENJOY YOUR "LOTUS" IN THE PAPERS AND CONTINUALLY WAITING FOR A RETURN RUN

>>17062460
>>17062482
Veyrons require a $300k per year maintenance regiment, or something to that effect.

>>17062497
Citation needed on that bullshit number, you stupid cunt.

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>>17062488
They will sperg at this

>>17062500
internet.com

>>17062488
>>17062502
Absolutely BTFO

>>17062502
>No actual laptimes

How will lotusfags ever recover?

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>>17062502
For a track toy, I'd get the 3-11. For a weekend car/summer daily, I'd get a Viper. The T/A package though, not the ACR, suspension is too brutal.

>>17062552
>daily
>Viper

>>17062548
How exactly is being slower a victory for the viper???
Or is this one of those vietnam momemts.???

>>17062552
Ok, the viper is slower tho

>>17062567
>he thinks we lost Vietnam
lel
12-1 KDR gook

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>>17062505
>internet.com

Sucks.

>>17062567
>Lotus fags have to change context from the Viper's insane ring time to backpedal

LOTUS FAGS BTFO

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>>17062571
>Ameriburger actually replied to my vietnam bait
Kek, this is too easy
The russians won the space race and WW2 btw

>>17062576
>Viper
>Ring time

???

The 3eleven lapped it in sub 7 minutes btw

Wth are americans retarded???

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>>17062579
>he thinks i wasn't baiting him

hook'd

>>17062588
Baited again X-DDD

>>17062592
masterbeighted
:^)

>>17062502
why is the lotus so fucking pigfat

a SR3 or SR8 is way lighter

>retarded pushrod cucks think their engines are light and compact
>posts something with a chrysler engine
lmao

>>17062443
>what is delicious torque nectar
irrelevant

>>17062482
>A 1200hp street car out performs it in most ways
lmao they actually believe this

>>17062691

A electric sedan hits 60 faster. Even a sub $15k drag car destroys a Veyron in the 1/4. A Veyron would get murdered at a Texas mile competition. Even on a highway pull there's a plethora of street cars that would destroy it. It's just a rolling advertisement for Arabs to idle around in London. That's all. Meanwhile attainable cars are being used for things that matter.

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>17062691 (You) #
>implying a lighter more compact engine isn't lighter and more compact
Wew lad. You went full retard there.

Flathead- Indestructible
OHV- lighter, smaller
OHC- better fuel economy
DOHC- more power

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>Europeans try to make the fastest car ever made
>twin turbos
>DCT
>AWD
>electric motors
>water injection
>KERS
>torque vectoring
>active aero
>launch control
>almost entirely carbon fiber body work
>computers so advanced they learn from their driver
>cost 1 million Euros

>Americans try to build the fastest car ever made
>biggest engine ever put in a car
>widest tires ever fitted on a car
>largest wing ever put on a car
>manual gearbox and rear wheel drive

How could you not love this car? It's so cartoonishly excessive you can't help but respect it.

>>17062742
>Japanense try to build the fastest car ever made
>JEE TEE ARU
>lemans wins
>Japan*: 1
>USA: 0
>*with a wankel engine no less

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>>17062781
>USA: 0
Nigga what?

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>>17062781
>le mans wins ("le mans" is two words you silly weeb)
>japan: 1
>USA: 4

fixed that for your dumb ass lel

>>17062443
>Chiron
>1200hp
Found the guy that has no idea about cars

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>>17062742
See
>>17062502
>>17062488

Dumb ameriburger

>>17062886
1479hp*** Excuuuuse me. Too bad that's still less than a truck engine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PznboTtpwA8

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>>17062781
No Le mans wins, nigga what you smoken?

>>17062718
A 1,200 HP street car isn't going to perform nearly as well off of the drag strip or be as reliable. Also your american wall of a car is gonna be fighting the air around it at any speed.

>>17062742
The ACR is also probably at the limit of what can be done with a mostly mechanical car.

>>17062375
Everybody here who owns a car knows that. Ignore the autistic busriders and don't encourage them. Polite sage.

>>17062742
I'm an FCA hater but damn do I love the Viper. I considered getting a first gen but ultimately the 80's work van interior put me off and I went with an NSX.

>>17062843
>>japan: 1 fluke
>>USA: 4 in a row

fixed

>>17062467
> redline of 6400 rpm

if it made 600ft-lb through the rev range it would peak at 730hp at that redline

>>17064634
>1.17 lb ft per cubic inch
>1.26 hp per cubic inch
It's possible to make a flat torque curve and 645 hp all the way to 6400 with that low of efficiency.

>>17062399
This.

Yes, racing engines can be more efficient with DOHC and yes, it's better.

But for a street car, displacement is the most enjoyable and reliable.

Faggots push the hp/l meme because they care about muh emissions, on the street you'll enjoy driving a big displacement engine more than a tiny one that sucks emissions cock.

Racing is a different story, not gonna get into that can of worms.

>>17062502
>viper
>0-100khp 4,0s
>0-60mph 3.3

are you fucking kidding me???

>>17065435
Fastest Laps is fucking shit with zero quality control.

I could go make a page about how a 1974 Ford Pinto can go 0-60 in 1.8 seconds and lap the Nurburgring in 6:56 right now if I felt like it

>>17065526
>fucking shit with zero quality control.
Its like a match made in heaven for this place. i could make an entire thread spamming the exact same shit with a single other person and that thread wouldn't be pulled down by the mods for the garbage it clearly is until like an entire fucking day later and i (have) actually done that.

>>17062392
you mean motorcycles > cars

>>17065435
Must have to shift at 61 mph.

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>>17062375

This reminds me of one of VW's most reliable engines of all time - EA827
It was a NA 2.0L 4 cyl petrol engine that developed 109, 116 or 120 bhp.
The cool thing about the 120 bhp one ( the ATF code ), which was found only on the mk 4 Golf and the B5 Passat, had peak torque at just 2400 rpm. It was a large engine that didn't spin all that much and it had so little technology on it that it was just about unbreakable.
Sadly however, big low-reving NA petrol engines that don't break down are a thing of the past.
It's spiritual succesor was the 1.6 MPI 102 bhp, but it had more technology on it, 16 valves and DOHC. It still was a tough as nails engine that never broke down, but this one actually has/had to spin far more than the leviathan 2.0 litre.
Then the 1.6 mpi got the fsi treatment and it all went to shit.

>>17065570
how much do these engines weigh?

>>17062451
i think it's the eyes, but the blonde bitch looks way hotter in a "i'm not MC" sense