Is anyone else really intimidated by motorcyclists? As a car

I am a motorcyclist before a car enthusiast. I drive a pretty boring economy city car; and ride a supersport. Everytime I see either a exotic car, or a tastefully modded car; I just hope that me and the driver can click and be friends.

>>17026625
Is it even worth writing
t. Motorcyclist?

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>>17026625
every time I see a guy on a harley / hardley I think late life crisis Boomer and crotch rockets I think manchild soon to be dead.

but when I pull up beside a Norton, BSA, or Triumph (not new Triumph shit) I think you sir know a freedom I never shall, you sir are a god among men

>>17027384
and then they stall and you drive off, because you have functioning electronics

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Should I buy one? Always loved the BMW bikes. Never owned one before though.

>>17027657
>Should I buy one? A
sure why not

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>>17026625
>Just a jet engine

>>17026625
Yeah bikes are all dash and glamour until you actually ride one daily, with the sweat and the rain and the bugs in your teeth and the freezing night rides and no place to even put a bag of groceries.

Real romantic.

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>>17027827
>no place to even put a bag of groceries
You're an idiot for not buying saddlebags at the very least
>bugs in your teeth
You're an idiot for not wearing a full face helmet
>freezing night rides
You're an idiot for not wearing layers

>>17026625
biker here

the only way to alleviate this is to become one.

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>>17026625
what about a scooter

You all know that it isn't illegal or anything to enjoy both?
Why does it seem lile there's a divide?

>>17027827
Implying my econobox even has a working ac/heater. I freeze and burn more in my car than my bike.

I live in beautiful California right by the beach. There is only one week a year where I might sweat during my commute. And it is just sweat Anon. God forbid you ever sweat, the world might end.

>>17026625
Every time I see a motorcyclist I think they must be a serious douche bag.

I'll usually contemplate swerving in traffic to hit one that drives between lanes or on the shoulder, I think that they are douche bags THAT much that I would want to damage my own car to keep some sweet satisfaction.


I've only hit one though an that was about 4 years ago

>>17028107
Faggot.

>>17028265
>that was about 4 years ago
You just got out of jail?

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>>17028265
You seem like a dick. Driving my car I could give two shits if a bike passes me on the shoulder or splits lanes. As long as you don't hit my car I could car less.

>>17028339
>Something that never happened

>>17026752
If you want to be friends with car people then don't ride the thibg that turns anyone into an instant asshole.

Always swerving through traffic, loud and obnoxious (tiny bike motors sound like farts), squeezing through tiny gaps and other dangerous stunts and every time something goes wrong they drag a car and driver into damages and debts. Bikers can't fucking behave and have literally zero sense of danger.

The only exceptions are the guys riding classic/oldtimer low-powered bikes because the only people buying those are the people that aren't in a hurry all the time and don't have a tiny dick that makes them wanna show of their """"""superiority"""""" to car drivers.

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>>17028376
Caged cuck detected

>>17028376
How many girls did you lose to a biker?

Crotch rocket riders are useless bags of meat full of pent up testosterone and no way to let it out because every aspect of their life is mediocre.

>>17028384
See >>17028384

>>17027930
>>17028206
Bike fags are so easily triggered.

And you know I'm right.

>>17028265
t Retarded American

In the 1st world filtering is perfectly legal.

ever since I started riding motorcycles my respect for cars and car racing has been steadily diminishing.

It's a hard feeling to describe.

You have two people, both self-described fans of Boxing.
However, one side seems to think boxing is wearing full body heavily cushioned suits while wapping each other with pool noodles

The other group is fight club

and the pool noodle club is constantly shitting on the fight club people for being more dangerous, while also claiming their sport is just as dangerous.

in other words, motorcycling feels more true to the spirit of racing. It's you, a massively disproportionate engine, and two wheels. R
acing a car you have a giant fucking cage and room for three other people in there, all that wasted space adding nothing to the performance of the car, and it all winds being a huge tax on fuel.

it just feels... fake, disingenuous.

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>>17028107
Big scooters are the best. its basically a 2 seat car with as much trunk space as a Camaro. but fun to drive and easy to park.

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>>17028427
Anon, I know that feel very well. Ever since I bought a bike. Going fast in a car doesn't do it for me anymore.

Take the MSF course and get a bike, you won't regret it.

I love my supermoto AND my drift car. Is this wrong? (you people hate fun, so this is rhetorical) They do different things. I don't target shoot my pistol at 100 yards and I don't plink targets at 25 with my AR. I don't get the competition.

>>17028509
you can't drift the sumo?

>>17028526
Not yet, no. Haven't really even tried it. Even if I could, the bike doesn't have the power to sustain the slide through the back half of the corner at track speeds. I can back it in and pretend I'm drifting for now, right?

>>17028413
cager nobike sure is salty :^)

Perhaps one day you'll actually ride.

>>17027930
That looks gay with all those saddle bags though

>>17028427
the thing about motorcycles for me is that it just adds so much more to the experience being required to throw around your body weight, having front and rear brakes, being able to clutchless shift etc...

Motorcycles are oldschool PC games, cars are modern AAA console shooters.

>>17028828
Motorcycles are dark souls, cars are dragon age: inquisition

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>>17028825
You look gay with all the cager metal around you.

>>17028828
>the thing about motorcycles for me

motorcycles vs cars are like cats vs dogs

cats are smaller, way more aglie, they have retractable claws, they hunt in a ways no dog can do

dogs are clumsier and basically use brute force approach like attacking prey in packs.

riding a motorcycle is akin controlling a cat, many variables, requires faster thinking and faster dicision making. and if you fucked you are proper fucked.

>>17028835
Possibly so since my daily is a duramax. My Vulcan 1500 had bags, but didnt look gay.

>>17026625
>buy a vstar 250 for first bike a few weeks ago
>put a couple hundred miles on it
>broke down on me yesterday
>feel inadequate watching all these dudes drive by on their bikes on a beautiful day
why did nobody tell me how great riding is sooner?

>>17028840
What a load of shit, cats are uncontrollable cunts and vehicles don't have personalities. You do the exact same thing in a motorcycle as in a car, only with much more exposure and involvement. It's like chipping firewood to make a fire to roast meat on it as opposed to buying ribs in some drive-through. You'll arrive at the same destination on a motorcycle as in a car, but on the way you'll have chipped firewood and roasted meat.

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i drive a nissan micra most of the year due to climate but i do have a 600cc sport bike for summers when i want to have fun

person who hasnt tried fast bike is missing out a lot

>>17026625
You're a pussy. Stop being a pussy.

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>>17028861
Or even a slow bike. You don't have to turn into a chicken stripping squid to enjoy biking.

>>17028850
>What a load of shit, cats are uncontrollable cunts
so are motorcyclists

> and vehicles don't have personalities.

that was an anology


> You do the exact same thing in a motorcycle as in a car, only with much more exposure and involvement. It's like chipping firewood to make a fire to roast meat on it as opposed to buying ribs in some drive-through. You'll arrive at the same destination on a motorcycle as in a car, but on the way you'll have chipped firewood and roasted meat.

kind of but still not even close. you'll likely end dead or have serious injuries if you get into accedent if you are riding a bike comparing to driving car.

also most motorcycles have waaaay better power/weight ratio, and one typically don't commute on a car that has over 500hp per tonn, that being said you are very likely to have an accident waiting again comparing to cars.

>>17028413
>And you know I'm right.
Except he pointed out all the reasons why you're wrong and have no arguments. Why did I even reply?

haha motorcycles are cool.

then you turned 16 and realised everyone who has ever ridden one died or brutally crippled themselves.

>>17028916
but all fun things in life are dangerous

cocaine, fighting etc

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>>17028916
That's what makes it so exciting.

verdict on LAMS yamaha MT-07 ???

>>17028916
I've had a couple of old dad neighbors with motorcycles and 4 of them are still alive. Really if you don't drive like a huge jackass you should be totally fine on any vehicle. The passed on neighbor I had was drunk when he lost control.

>>17028921
we are pretty close to full immersion VR, then you can get the same excitement without any risk.

imagine what a giant retard you would feel like if you broken your neck in 2020 only to find out by 2025 we have 100% digital immersion.

i can understand the appeal of a road bike in the 30s, 40s, 50s, shit you might go off and die in a war anyway, live a little. but the 21st century is all about playing it cool and waiting for immortality before you do stupid shit like skydiving or motor sports.

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>>17028850
If cats are uncontrollable cunts, then why can I call my cat to come take some löyly with me?

>>17028933
I dunno, man. I think the risk is what makes it so exciting, I don't think it would be the same of you're not actually on the edge of danger. I reckon VR horror games are probably pretty frightening, but actually being kidnapped and tortured by redneck maniacs would be whole other level absolutely terrifying.

>>17028943
It's not the cat, but the owner.

>>17028933
>imagine what a giant retard you would feel like if you broken your neck in 2020 only to find out by 2025 we have 100% digital immersion.
being crippled wouldnt matter much if you could submerge yourself in a totally convincing computer program.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com.au/hotnews/motorcycle/all-new-aussie-mt-07-arrives

what does /o/ think ???

>>17028933
Except simulation is never as good as the real thing, video games gave shown us this. Even if you had a full motion rig it still wouldn't feel like you're doing 100mph down a country lane or 50mph up a twisty mountain pass with your knee hovering centimetres above the ground because you can't replicate those sensations.

Apples and oranges, bikes aren't cars and cars definitely aren't bikes.

I don't see the point in hating, life's too short to be bickering about trivial shit like this. It doesn't matter at the end of the day.

3/10 I replied.

>>17028955
Niggers crash them

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>>17028947
I don't understand what you mean, but here's another picture of my cat in the sauna.

>>17028948
unless ur a vegetable and can't enjoy it because ur brain is mush.

>>17028963
Some owners think you can't train a cat, so they don't. Making them unpredictable.
My cats listen to me and follow me around all the time. Even making them do tricks before they get food.

>>17028959
i just figured since it's a general purpose ride, an everday rider >600 cc. lams certified, and has great options

(supposedly they'll be including their clutchless shiftbox on it, i forgot what they're called)

and it's not a horribly expensive bike, maybe it would be a great first bike / only bike type deal for a guy who just need good transport.

>>17028265
Think of it this way

If you drive a single seater racecar with no safety equipment, you deserve to be allowed to drive where you can fit. You have no protection from the elements, your tiny race motor has a tiny cooling system, but you are very, very small. So why do you have to wait at the end of a line when you can just drive up to the front of it, because, you are, after all, driving a racecar, and will take off from the front of the line so fast it'll be like you weren't even there. Only that guy in the legit sports car will be anywhere near you.

And then +1 spaces in the que for family haulers.

If traffic is moving below 30mph, let people shoot gaps at 35. Modern cars are so fucking safe that the worst you'll get is body damage from purposefully driving like a dangerous asshole who doesn't signal and intentionally blocks people he's jealous of.

>>17028427
That is really the point I am trying to make here. I don't know how anyone can call themselves a car enthusiast but is too afraid to ride a motorcycle (which most of them are)

>>17029242
>That is really the point I am trying to make here. I don't know how anyone can call themselves a car enthusiast but is too afraid to ride a motorcycle (which most of them are)

typical pussies

they want a car that can do 0-60mph in less than 5s but reject to ride stock bike that does 0-120mph in less than 7.5s.

my first jap bike was GSX-R1100W'95, then I got GSX-R1000K3, then gen2 ZX-10R, then bought GSX-R600K7 as track bike, after spending all $$$ on tires, gear, trackdays, bike parts I sold zx10r and gsxr600 and got hayabusa. what a boring bike. hopefully a turbo and new suspension would make it blast to ride.

>>17026625
clever double bluff you got there, cager

>>17028966
How would you even feel like a retard then?

>>17028427
Thanks for putting words on my feelings.

>>17029299
>what a boring bike.
If you've got cash to burn try European sportbikes, their feeling is really different than japanese bikes. S1000RR, F4RR, Panigale... No way you could find them boring.

>>17026625
I used to think motorcyclists were cool until I actually experienced them
>Holier than thou attitude
>literally cannot go through a tunnel or under an overpass without bouncing off the redline for a few seconds
>lane splitting is fine, but not in places where it's illegal, like where I live.
>muh bikers lives matter where if you even drive within 4 meters of them they starts screaming and try to break off your mirrors

I'm not even joking, anyone that buys a bike should just be euthanized.

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>>17028342
>I could give two shits
>I could care less

Fucking yanks

>>17029378
too pricey for me to track them and I see no point in riding on the street on a sport bike.

I'm thinking about getting old GSXR600/750 like I had in the past. It cheap, I still have quite a few spares since I tracked that bike (spare gearbox, front end, rearsets, clip ons, sprockets, wheels, brake rotors, etc etc)

>>17029387
You seem to surround yourself with shitty people.

>>17029407
>Hayabusa
>on track
You're doing it wrong.

>>17028928
I don't know about lams but I've got a 2017 Mt 07 restricted to 48 hp and all I can say is that it's a great bike, even for beginners.
It's incredibly agile and really light and manageable. The only downside (but you get used to it) is a bit of jerkiness during on-offs and a quite strong engine braking.

>>17029442
>restricted to 48hp

jesus

christ

>>17029450
bruh my bike has 14hp

>>17028204
Because most normies are pussies and afraid of dying.

Most other motorcyclists I know fully enjoy cars trucks and bikes, and pretty much anything with an engine, there is no divide with them.

>>17029450
It's for the A2 license that you can get at 18, which allows bikes of any cc but only up to 48 hp.

>>17029450
48hp is absolutely sufficient for smooth twisty riding, tolerable on the highway and suitable for urban traffic.

>>17029472
Mine has something like 10, and limited to 60MPH. That's about as low as you can go.

>>17029411
More like, he seems to surround himself with YouTube videos. Literally none of what he says happens with the people I ride with.

>>17029566
Pretty much this, and the same could be said for car drivers too.

Anyone can cherry pick the bad things from a particular demographic, it's not hard.

>>17029513
GROM

>>17029144
About safety on bike and being douche, the "funny" part is that it's quite impossible to do two identical accident.

Story from my town: Some car backed into some 50cc young driver, who just stood on the parking lot. He went to hospital, they found no harm on the biker. Next day he died of internal organ failure or something like that.

Another story: My friend crashed into deer doing probably >80kmh. He was just in helmet and motorbike jacket. He destroyed front panel and scratched fuel tank. Almost no body damage.

tl;dr, damages on you on motorcycle is 40% how you dress and 60% is luck. You can lay bike with 120kmh on and with good trousers just do a few scratches, or you can fall over near pavement and break your neck.

Ofc this don't allow you to act like driver with dying wish desu

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>>17029504
>48hp is absolutely sufficient

>>17030031
Ok, I'm game.
Twisty riding isn't equal to track riding.
High corner speeds are easily attainable so long as you have enough power to get up to speed between corners. Even on a 15% incline a 48hp bike will get from 30mph to 60 in a very short distance provided you select a low enough gear.
You probably think the minimum is a literbike so you can overtake 6 cars between corners without downshifting, which is nice admittedly but absolutely not the minimum requirement.

t. owner of a 600 who has ridden literbikes and 48hp bikes

>>17028439
true they are so comfy with heated grips and seats

>>17030069
riding smaller CC bikes is fun for sure

albeit it dictates different lines and different tactics as you would be trying to save as much corner speed as you can.

I enjoyed riding on a 250cc I4 old kawi on the track, it was really really fun.

[ ridding 600cc, 1000cc gixxers and ninja on the track, and busa]

>tfw Brit
I want to ride a motorcycle to commute since I don't have my car any more and taking the bus sucks, but I'm worried about the wind and rain seeing how I live in the North East. I'd also only be riding a 125 since I don't want to get the A2 license just to have to pay for another test in 2 years.

>>17029912
CBF125.

>>17030155
Surely you can save up £80 in two years?

>>17030190
>implying they just let you pass on your first go
kek
anyway, I'd have to buy 3 bikes over 2 years since you need to take the test on a bike that meets the requirements, and I'd want to buy a 125 first to get practice in.

>>17030197
I passed first go. I agree about the expense though, if you're almost 24 wait for direct access and get a nice soft 500 or 650 to last a few miles.

>>17028206
Being in a car with no heater in winter is babbyshit compared to being on a bike in the winter

>>17030215
I'm 21. It just sucks that direct access still requires you to take a practical.
If I wanted a bike that could do both A2 and A tests, I'd need to pick out something with 595cc+ and 40kW, that can be restricted down to 35-20kW so that it doesn't exceed 0.2 kW/kg, right?

>>17030268
Yes, that's why Kawasaki's 650s are so popular. Basically pick any motorbike up to 94 bhp and restrict it (or get someone who'll sign the paperwork for you) and use it for a few years.

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>>17028265
This is why I carry a gun when I ride. You try this with me, you will get shot. Promise. :)

>>17030384
Ok, I'll do a bit of research into them then. Is it actually a good idea to buy a 125 first to get real practice in or am I just being overly-cautious?

>>17030403
Depends on what you want. Starting on low capacity gives you a bike with low power but (with the right bike) good brakes and handling, so you can learn to ride on the limit without riding at instant-death speeds. If you don't want to race on the roads, any comfy bike on low throttle through traffic will do.

>>17028376
I don't even have a motorcycle and you sound like a giant faggot to me. Im guessing a dude on a bike cucked you or something?
Yeah there's idiots on bikes but there's plenty idiots in cars too. A lot of bikefags are spending the majority of their rides trying to avoid getting hit by some jackass soccer mom in her pigfat Suburban running a red light or something.

>>17030155
£2.5k for semi-new bike, mid-range safety gear, cbt, insurance, and tax.
CBT is a 1-day course.

>>17030268
>If I wanted a bike that could do
B I K E R E N T A L
Any decent training centre will rent you a bike to do the test on. It'll be old, scratched, dented, and held together with tape in places, but it'll run fine.

>>17028933
Fuck immortality. I'd rather have fun in the short time I'm alive than live forever in this shitty life. And I'd rather have REAL experiences rather than artificial ones when possible because it's never the same. I can play a VR racing game and yeah, it's fun, but taking my car to back roads or the track is way more fun. The danger and risk are what make it fun.

Same thing with bikes, the freedom to get hurt if you fuck up rather than having a big metal box safety net is what appeals to me with bikes, and I'm sure thats how it is for a lot of riders.
VR can be great, but until they can 100% trick you mind into thinking you're actually in a dangerous situation, it's not the sme as the real thing.

>>17030649
>VR can be great, but until they can 100% trick you mind into thinking you're actually in a dangerous situation, it's not the sme as the real thing.
Some day anon. Sadly I think I'm gonna be old as fuck by the time that actually happens.

>>17027471
>t. doesn't know how engines work

>>17028204
because the internet is full of shit-stirring faggots with nothing better to do

t.motorcyclist who likes cars too

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>>17026625
Faggot. Just go buy one. It won't take long to see what an over-rated experience it is. Trust me.

>>17026625
Motorcycling and driving cars are two different worlds that slightly overlap.

One isnt better than the other. Both have their good and bad. I like both, and both are fun and both take work and effort to enjoy to the max.

Ideally, as a car/bike enthusiast, you want to have both vehicles, as either can get tiring when you ache to experience something different on your drive.

Dont feel intimidated by motorcyclists. It's an absolute fact that motorcyclists have the liking of "being free" which can translate into wanting to do whatever the hell you want, but at the end of the day, motorcyclists just like the driving experience motorcycles give them. They dont necessarily take pleasure in terrorizing other people and being unsafe on the roads, they like pushing the limits, and having fun.

Most motorcyclists love and appreciate other people and other car culture, and other bike culture, as there are a lot of different bike types and riding styles within motorcycling. Just dont drive like a dumbass, pay attention, and enjoy the drive. That goes for all cars and bikes.

Oh, and remember, if you treat people like the bad guy, they're gonna be the bad guys, and then that's a YOU problem, because you care to much.

>>17026625
just buy a motorcycle. if you are an American it is incredibly easy to buy a liter bike and die on it or something, nothing is stopping u my man.

Riding a motorcycle kinda sucks
>baby it around public roads because of potholes and debris

Iist of interests goes from cars>motorcycles>expensive bicycles>cheap bicyles

>>17031523
Forgot to mention that the healthcare in the US is terrible especially when it comes to emergency care for bones...

Brits/Australians have valid reasons to love motorcycles because they wont end poor after one accident. In the US it just takes one to ruin your entire life

>>17029442
my bike literally has 4x more hp than yours

does that kind of power difference make you as hard as me?

>>17026625
>Is anyone else really intimidated by motorcyclists?

I owned a Ninja for a few years (in addition to my car). I was more intimated by cars, and their distracted drivers.

Finally sold it; after nearly getting rear-ended by a van that didn't notice I stopped for a redlight (he blew right through it, i barely made it to the next lane over), the joy was basically gone... every ride was just a fucking stress test.

>>17028107
Best way to lose a foot

>>17030649
>Fuck immortality. I'd rather have fun in the short time I'm alive than live forever in this shitty life

It's not always about immortality. For some people, it's about being a quad in a wheelchair shitting in a bag because some stupid fuck was texting and ran you over.

Enjoy the paralysis. ;)

>>17031584
You're right, and if I ended up like that I would sincerely hope that someone would have the balls to mercy-kill me. But at the same time its the fear of something like that happening that can make it so fun and exciting. I'm not saying it's rational, just explaining why I think it's more fun to do dangerous shit in life rather than a virtual risk-free environment.

>>17031158
I don't know... I think money would be the major limiting factor for us regarding a ultra-realistic VR rather than age. Technology is advancing at an incredible rate.
But then we might also get the moralfags to halt production of VR before it gets too realistic.

>>17032428

Not trying to say "don't get a bike". I had one for awhile, and enjoyed it.

Just know that it's inherently a risk, and one you really don't understand/appreciate until you've been in the seat for awhile and seen the crazy fucks that don't see you.

Get a bike, take good training, ATGATT, and enjoy the experience. Just don't be... so fatalistic about finding an exciting (though potentially deadly) hobby vs regular mundane life. No life is so fucking mundane that you wanna spice it up with eating food through a straw.

>>17032485
That's fair, I absolutely agree with you. I realise I may have been talking more dramatically than I meant to but I didnt know how else to get my point across.
Fear can be fun but i also understand we feel fear for a reason, to hold us back from doing excessively stupid shit we shouldn't do.
Bikes for example, yeah I'd love to race around in rush hour traffic pushing limits and seeing how fast I can go all the time. But I also understand how fast things can go horribly wrong even when riding extremely cautiously at safe speeds, so I keep my personal limits in check.
I agree with you that that doesn't mean we can't have fun, we just need to have fun sensibly and understand the risks.

i have bikes
love em
i also have a big slow truck and i almost got killed in it the other day when a truck was coming right for me in the wrong lane on a blind corner
shit happens and no one gets out alive

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>>17026625
I ride a motorcycle because the numbers just dont add up for cars. 10 grand you can buy an incredibly fast bike that will put a smile on your face. The most expensive exotic top of the line motorycles such as Ducati and MV Agusta are 50 grand. 50 grand is entry level for sports cars. I ride a Moto Guzzi which is built in a small factory in the Alps by passionate people and it puts a smile on my face and does a 10 second quarter yet doesn't bankrupt my poorfag budget.

>>17027657
Yes, but it not the best 300cc bike.
I mean if you really love BMW go for it.

>>17029430
this the busa is a sport tourer for niggers senpai.

>>17026625
It is romantic. When I go on 2 hour rides at midnight and just get to see the lights and world go by while reflecting on shit, there is no better feeling. Its worth every bit of yourself you put in danger by riding one.

>>17033257
i never do that on my bike.

>>17033266
Well I'm an introspective faggot.
I also go on gang rides and street race so I have at least a semi-manly side too.

>>17033326
i like to push my limit and scare myself but thats about all i do.

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>>17029387
Holy shit all those things you listed sound fun as fuck. Man, I love owning a bike..
We like loud noises, dangerous shit, and aggression. Who are you nu-males that are scared of anything fun.

>>17033257
>riding at night

shiggydiggy

>>17033445
Really, you don't? You're missing out my man.
>Ride a black bike with all black gear
Does that extra trigger you?

>>17033490
Not sure why you think it would trigger me. Visibility at night is just too low to enjoy riding. It's too hard to discern any imperfections or potholes in the road and the light from oncoming traffic is overwhelming.

>>17033510
Meh I commute home.on my bike at like 1am all the time. I don't smash the togue at night though

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>>17026625
Carfag reporting in. I too feel like a complete an utter faggot whenever I see a motorcyclist on the road. They appreciate the grit and experience of motorized transport more than I will ever know.

>>17033510
>ride dual sport
>hit potholes on purpose
Is good

>>17028265
You live in San diego?

>>17033510
Alright fair enough man, mb for being snarky.
But if you use a clear visor and ride around the city with street lights, visibility is not a problem at all. But I guess if you live in a shit part of town with potholes and no street lights, I totally get that.

For real though, if you can get to a better part of town that is well light at night, shit is thoroughly relaxing.

>riding a motorcycle
>not racing or doing track days
why even bother

>>17030031
how fat r u

>>17033490
I don't mind this with motorcycles, but as a cyclist who starts his commute in the dark in winter the black bike black gear no lights cunts shit me off to no end.

>>17033257
do you achieve orgasm by the end of your ride?

>>17028963
I want a sauna

I want to live in finland

You all sound like fags when you argue about who's bicycle or station wagon or whatever is more dangerous. Something about it screams "I have a small penis"

>>17026625
omg i hate motorcycles now

>>17033788
Orgasms dont leave you feelin as good as those rides my man.

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Guys what bike is this?

>>17034142
>>17034142
something about it makes me think its based off of a V-Rod

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>>17028916
The death rate is only 1:2000 motorcycle owners. It's still Russian roulette, but no risk no reward.

>>17033730
how slow are you

Scooters=gay
Harleys = loud/fattys bumbling about.
Crotchrockets=edge lords that act obnoxious cutting everyone off.
"Cafe racer"= hipster
Dual sport = redneck
Dirtbike = more redneck
Chopper= attention whore
Cruiser(goldwing )= some dad
Adventure = idk some blend of everything

Did i pass the test?

>>17034142
Chubbmax1000

>>17034202
What about muscle bikes?

>>17034202
>Dual sport = redneck

Rednecks don't know what dual sports are.

The only motorcycles that exist to them are Harleys.

And most dirt bike riders here are suburbanites who actually have money to blow on a non-road legal bike.

>>17034142
a lolcan'turn

>>17030390
>shooting anything
>on a motorcycle

Life isn't a movie, sir. Chances are when taking into considerations all the factors that come with riding at a reasonable speed, you'll be lucky to even hit the car. Alternatively, you could take your eyes off the road to aim and die in a crash.

of course, there is the off chance that you are actually extremely skilled with firearms, but that seems to be out of the question as you used a stock image of a gun to show your masculinity.

>There is something almost romantic about it. No airbags. No seat belts. Just a jet engine between your legs and the hard pavement.
My shitbox also has no airbags, one seat belt, and some Jap-scrap tin plating between my body and the 5,500 pound SUV next to me. What makes you so special?

>>17034641

It's about the potential. I can twist my wrist a few inches and take off like a missile

>>17034202
Adventure is soccer mom clearly

>>17028844
>Vulcan 1500 had bags, but didnt look gay.
How about, no. Gay with or without bags.

>>17031560
I can say the same about my current bike (that 48 hp mt07) and the previous 125 4stroke scootsie I had.
Btw what do you ride?

>>17034142
A shit one

>>17029479
True. I have cars, trucks, bikes, boats, and so on

>>17031537
Not even close to true. At least you tried

>>17033621
>riding a motorcycle
>not touring around 1000's of miles or more a year
Why even bother

>>17034202
Goldwing isn't a cruiser and Harley are not loud stock

yeah i wouldnt mind being a biker but a few things put me off.

...people dont give a sht.. most people are unaware arse holes at the best of times.

..i used to have to travel through the valleys for a while.. hospital visits..

literally every time the sun came out some poor sod has over estimated something or other and the roads are inevitably closed..

lastly, i did that thing where you window shop for bikes.. and the first thing that came to mind was lighter weight..

and then the prices sort of went out of my league.

the most "fun" iv had is go karting.. it felt like freedom it did.

>>17033621
Because track days are expensive and most tracks aren't even conducive to the type of riding people want to do. It's much cheaper, easier, and more fun to do late night highway hooning with the bros than it is to go to some meme track where you sit in the sun for 12 hours for maybe 80-100 minutes of actual riding time

>>17035932
It boils down to this:
1. Do not get shiny new 1000cc bike but a get older 600cc
2. invest saved $$$ in gear and tires and track days.
3. profit: riding a "beater" on the track is a LOT of fun, trust me. being there did that.

>>17033621
>track days
> No scenery
> People always up your ass or taking up the best line
> Dead smooth road surface - boring!
> Fall off? Bike gets fucked up by gravel
> Wait wait wait GO FAST GO FAST wait wait wait
> Bullshit rules; can't do X can't do Y can't do Z you have to do ABCD before coming on the track no we won't refund you even though you paid us and didn't tell you this shit in advance

I'll stick to twisty country roads. Being able to go faster isn't worth the time or effort to deal with track bullshit.

>>17035993
>> Fall off? Bike gets fucked up by gravel
>> Wait wait wait GO FAST GO FAST wait wait wait
>> Bullshit rules; can't do X can't do Y can't do Z
>I'll stick to twisty country roads.


Back roads aren't safer then a track.

You have to abide a lot more "stupid" rules on the street.

Gravel is nothing, you can repair or get a new bike but you can't have brand new ankles, neck, wrists, spine, etc.

Ride safe

>>17034142
that's a custom bike based on V-Rod

>>17035932
More like track days are expensive, almost nobody lives anywhere near a good track, and tracking a motorcycle usually means towing it there and back incase you highside and properly smash the thing.

>people actually believe the pavement on tracks is necessarily good

>>17034202
Standard/Naked = saw the light

>>17026625
go get a bike op and you too can experience fear and adrenelin for a fraction of the price of a car.

i get what you mean tho, even as a wannabe bike enthusiast even i find them intimidating, maybe its the helmet or the noise.

>>17036020
> Muh sayyyfety
It's a goddamn bike.

> Rules of the road
Only apply if there's a cop around.

>>17027827
well yeah, thats the point.
its not supposed to be easy, if you want easy go buy a gt86.

its the same reason some people daily rat rods or road legal racecars or scrapers.

the fun comes from the difficulty and the edgyness of it.

god alot of bike hating fags in this thread

ok listen up niggers
the problem is that you are all assuming all bikers are like those twats you see doing wheelys
those people are a small portion but just because bikes are rare you assume all of them are like that.
its the same as you assuming all people who drive one specific model of car are the same.

and if you are so jealous that they can filter through traffic then go get a bike yourself

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>>17029387
>Bikers who ride loud as fuck bikes that pretty much split your ears as they ride past

>>17036104
loud pipes save lifes

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>>17036104
>exhaust is at ear height
>window open in summer means deafening sounds right next to your eardrum
>cars get pulled over if too loud

>>17036073
Listen, fucktard. This is an english-language imageboard. There is a minimum expected standard of english, and you are well below it.
Learn to spell.

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>>17036115
Nope

>>17027657

Go for it, super comfy and ergos are great. Not as fast top end as Honda's 500s but probably way more fun to ride. Only other thing that comes close would be a KTM RC390/390 Duke.

>>17029387
>it's fine but if not if the law says no

Disregard the laws except in the presence of the police. Legislators who don't allow simple shit like filtering through reds or a strict definition of a traffic jam are probably too retarded to even balance their state's budget.

Law != omnipotent/presenrt god
Cop != angel of death and vengeance sent from the heavens to punish anyone and everyone for the very immoral act of disobeying an aging lawyer with as many traffic engineering related qualifcations as a high school dropout with five DUIs

When state legislators talk about splitting the first thing that happens is someone pulls up a video of stunters in california breaking the law doing 100mph wheelies through sparse traffic that was already moving smoothly. Because nobody was going to do that if splitting was illegal.

I don't respect their wishes to make our roads worse when every other first world country has already gotten their shit together. And neither should you.

The government is your peer, not your parent. Their only claim to correctness is the loyalty of very violent, angry, well armed people who hold the keys to some very secure cages. And the 5 you're fine 6 you're mine rule shows, that loyalty isn't absolute when it comes to fucking traffic laws.

>>17036104
sucks when you buy used and every single bike is like this, and the stock muffler is $100+$50 shipping for a scratched up one on fleabay