I am getting fired for sure.

Watch the Green Hell near December. This car will probably be testing there.

""""""""Leak""""""""
>lists all identifying info

>>17025297
>4 Valves Per Cylinder with Greater Angling
>Greater Angling
Odd, don't most manufacturers use a narrower valve angle these days because that's supposedly better for performance?

>>17025316
Detuned. This is generally done for greater reliability for break-in period.

>>17025297
>leak
Tell your marketing boss the only "leak" we want from toyota is the new supra.

>>17025329
That isn't coming. I6 needs serious work.

>>17025336
So it's getting its own straight 6, not one nicked from BMW with a couple of Toyota additions like they did with Subaru and the BRZ/GT86?

>getting fired to tell the world about a V6

>>17025339
We couldn't get the Europoors on the project.

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>>17025336
>That isn't coming.
Whats this in the picture?

>>17025354
You will see and hopefully be surprised.

>>17025346
So hype for a "3JZ" is back on track, then. Cool.

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>>17025346
Bmw and Toyota are currently testing the supra and the new z5. They both share the same platform.

Do you marketing people even know anything?

>>17025363
With major issues.

>>17025366
Albeit with diff. motors.

>>17025374
Although those should be worked out by the time the production version rolls around, since I doubt they'd release an engine with major issues.
I get it might take a while, though.

>>17025385
I hope you looked at the new shitty nsx and dont put some bullshit hybrid crap in it.

>>17025392
Please don't get your tiddies in a twist, but the Supra is probably getting a TT V6.

>>17025406
So if it's not going in the Supra, that begs the question: what IS it going into?

>>17025402
O.

>>17025297
>leaked

tell your faggot bosses to put a 6 speed auto in the corolla. only faggots drive cars with cvts.

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>>17025360
>leaks info

>refuses to leak other info

Fuck off with your shitty bait threads faggot.

>>17025423
Look out for a hot hatch with a 6 speed auto.

>>17025442
Hey, cunt, it's calling IS-F leaked specs for a fucking reason. Take your gay weeb shit to the Subie thread, if that even exists here.

>2GR-FSE
Why would they use a V6 from 2006?

>>17025412
Well, friend: probably nowhere. Our TT I6 is redundant since it puts two turbos in the same intake. If we keep our V6 TT, we have two big turbos on both engine banks. This is a win-win, so suck it up.

>>17025458
It's been in production since 06'. We have been updating it for ages; think of it like the Porsche design. It's hella old, but it works.

>>17025463
Hey, I'm just curious and eager to see another hugely overbuilt inline 6 that can be boosted to ridiculous levels with relatively little effort. That's why the 2JZ was such a massive hit, and it's cool to see that a twin turbo inline 6 is at least in development (albeit with major issues currently).

>No manual

fucking DROPPED

Americans love Manuals in their $60-80,000 sports sedans. Why didn't you learn and give it a manual? BMW offers a manual in the M3/M4

>>17025479
nigga he said it's going nowhere, which means it's never coming out of the R&D lab instead we get stuck with some shitty Ford Taurus SHO bullshit, 2/10 Toyota

>>17025479
I said it is PROBABLY not coming. We MAY put it in the FT-1, but not yet. Honestly, we are making this car with the most tuner-knowledge in mind. We are even trying to scrap the AA80E from the RC-F and plug in a 7-speed manual.

>>17025488
Sorry, but your shitty record of buying manuals says enough. Besides, the Chevy SS comes in auto and you cunts are willing to suck dick for that Holden rebadge.

>>17025491
You better look to an overpriced BMW if you want the cheap thrill of an unreliable turbo I6 with VANOS.

>>17025479
It will never happen again.

Planned obsolescence is not a meme.

>>17025496
So the FT-1 is gonna be a separate model above the Supra? This is interesting stuff.

>>17025512
There you go.

>>17025517
The FT-1 and Supra are the same car, it's just that they get different names based on geography.

>>17025511
I'll just look into something that actually comes in manual not cuck auto, with the maymay paddle shifters

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>>17025468
Is it same mounting position as the ft86 engine for easy swap?

>>17025531
Not my fault that you don't want fast shifts.

>>17025525
Ah okay. I guess that makes sense.

>>17025533
Totally different. This one is front, mid engine. The FT is obviously FR.

Will the 86 ever get a Toyota-made engine or still use the cuck-tier flat-4?

>>17025531
Fuck u bench raicer. U can't afford anything than a 92 civic or a Miata. Fuck outa here

>>17025525
Does that even make sense? Supra is a well known name. Why drop it in some territories?

>>17025548
Subaru has major rights to the engine, and we can't put in a cucked I4. Thus, we are keeping the Fuck4 and watching Subaru debut their shitty STi (honestly, it is a terrible car.)

>>17025556
I own one. I've driven lots of cars. I beg to differ. The engine is shit thou.

>>17025551
86 was a known name in the states. Problem is, Toyota USA wants a "buyer friendly" name, meaning they want to push this car to normies. This again, is another reason why the FT-1 is getting the 8-speed in the states while Europoors and Japan get Auto and Manual.

>>17025569
What price they thinking for the ft1?

>>17025556
So, any chance of a new entry level sports car with a throttle responsive engine for muh driver car?

>>17025565
Fine, buy a non-turbo STi and then tell me how you feel?

>>17025572
Not out yet. Expect to put out above 60 grand. >>17025574
Amazing response is in the upcoming GT86. This is better than throttle-by-wire.

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>Removal of ABS
>6 Speed auto when they already use a 8

Low quality bait.

>>17025550
>implying
okay mister stay cucked cause you can't work a clutch

>>17025584
Do you know how much the ABS weighs in the regular RC-F? Also, the 6-speed works infinitely better than the 8.

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oh wow another heavy, twin turbo 6 cylinder, automatic, sedan.

i wonder how many of these things are on the market now

>>17025569
Can you please punch the guy in the face responsible for dropping real names like supra for some shitty meaningless symbols.

Same with the celica.

>>17025586
Stay cucked knowing your cluthcked ricer can't keep up with a stock FT-1.

>>17025586
My other DD is a manual turbo inline 5. So plz go kys

>>17025597
850 T5?

>>17025594
Ours is actually better, trust me. It weighs almost nothing and runs on the dime.
>>17025595
You would need to beat up the marketing team at Toyota USA for that one.

>>17025582
Why does the new 86 have this amazing new response?

>>17025603
Hes talking about the successor.

Dosent matter because hes a fake.

>>17025603
Really, really good ignition and fuel system.

>>17025600
2013 C30.

But my frs is just so much better to drive.... Blows my mind...

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>>17025590
>ABS is required on all new passenger cars sold in the EU since 2004. In the United States, the NHTSA has mandated ABS in conjunction with Electronic Stability Control under the provisions of FMVSS 126 as of September 1, 2013.

>>17025610
When is this hitting the market?
Can this new system be swapped on older cars?

>>17025621
kek gake and fay OP
Get iff out board you lying shill.

>>17025468
>>17025297
>see double injection, vvti, 500hp
>could it be?
>...
>twin turbo
GAAAAAY I was almost ready to believe that Toyota had made a screaming 500hp na v6. Now THAT would be Porsche-tier

>>17025630
Ya. 50:1 compression ration.

Glhf

>>17025621
ESC has a four-wheel braking system that we have incorporated into the car. The conventional ABS, thus, can be removed.

>>17025630
The Turbo system works differently on this car. Basically, we have two turbos that kick out power at different RPM.

>>17025622
Answer this plz

>>17025637
You really don't know how to calculate compression, do you?

>>17025657
Possibly. It honestly depends on how much money you're willing to put out for something like that.

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>>17025658
Sarcasm?

>>17025622
It hits the market at the launch of the second generation of the 86.

>>17025663
How much % of the price on trd parts is meme tax?

>>17025643
>four-wheel braking system
You mean it won't have separate front and rear brake pedals?

>>17025674
That varies from car to car. It generally is a 13% increase.

>>17025673
What's the time frame for next gen 86? 2 years? 5 years? A decade?

>>17025676
It gets incorporated into the 4WD so it differs from our RC-F.

>>17025637
I don't know what the compression ratio is in porches 4.0 but it's probably more like 10 or 11:1

>>17025684
Wait till 2019.

>>17025643
So if there's no ABS system, how do you expect the four wheel braking system actuates the brakes separately?

>>17025648
Weren't you just saying that sequential twins are redundant now in >>17025463

>>17025463

Two things confuse me here. If having a 360 degree plenum was so harmful to an inline six with standard firing order, why is this not an issue for any other inline six engine? Why wasn't it an issue for the Toyboata I6 that came before it?

If having a 180 degree plenum was that important, why didn't a single nip put their hand up and say 'why don't we just cast a divider between three and four?' This achieves the exact purpose of two individual plenums of three cylinders each.

Why not just use the ACIS module from a 2JZ-GE with a butterfly in the casting between three and four?

>>17025354
Next-gen 86

>>17025720
Redundant in the I6 due to feeding through the same intake. V6 has it in separate banks, os one big and small turbo on other ends.

>>17025688
What?
You're not making anymore sense.
Stop playing eith these benchracer kids they don't know any better.

>>17025712
Trade secret. And yes, I am being dead serious. I actually can not say something like that without risk of hurting Toyota's tech. The leak I sent out was basic engine info and specs, and the ISF itself is releasing soon enough so that this leak won't prove too disastrous.

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I am a DigiPen grad working at the top secret H0nda rasetrak. I stumbled on these specs in the office, and decided to release it to my br/o/s here.

Here goes nothing:

Honda Civic R (duh lol)

Engine: the same one in a bugatti veyrun but more powerful from n0s

Power: 5000 HP 4000 LB-FT

Fuel Injection: Direct + Port Fuel Injection with VTEK

Weight: 100 LBS

Weight Distribution: 50-50 baybee (Front-Rear)


Engine Specifications:

VTAK: activation >1 RPM

40 Valves Per Cylinder with VTECH

Engine Block increased from 1 to 1.1L

Nonary Turbocharging with No Intercooling System

Lightened Flywheel (200 LBS lighter)

Titanium Block and Heads


Drivetrain:

Four-Wheel BIG Brembo Brakes Slotted, Carbon Fiber secret compound Dick Brakes with Strengthened Brake Calipers

Braking Distance:

60-0 MPH: 1 FT

100-0 MPH: 1.5 FT

Front and Rear Anti-Roll Bars and rollcage for TRAK DAY

Increased Chassis Reinforcement via nippon steel, folded over 1 thousand times

Lighter Weight resultant of Removal of:

gay pussy shit lol

Performance Statistics:
0-60 MPH: 0.1 S

0-100 MPH: 0.2 S

Top Speed: 1,000,000 MPH

ya it also has n0s its pretty fast

>>17025744
Now you're trying to say doyoda has created a new electronic brake system to replace conventional abs? This better be real and revealed on release or you're a faggot.

think OP is legit because no troll would give a fuck about Lexus

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>>17025753

>>17025730
The firing order isn't the issue, even though we tried a different one with the I6. The issue lies in the fact that the inlet manifold itself does not run with our performance runners without burning extra A/F mixture.

The ACIS is only efficient at higher running conditions, but the issue we have now is during low idle.

>>17025763
Fuck off. Lexus is really good; better than the Honda cunts you guys circle jerk to.

>>17025783
My EG with some simple mods can smoke your shitbox

>>17025757
It will. It is coming in slower stages (expect to see it in the Camry and newer Lexus LS first).

>>17025757
Also, be on the lookout for KERS. It is the beginning stage to our newer braking system.

>>17025739

How are two compressors functioning sequentially 'redundant' if the plenum connected to the summed output has six cylinders connected to it, yet this is not the case when two compressors are operating sequentially and the summed output is connected to a plenum with three cylinders connected to it?

This isn't adding up. No engine that I have configured begins to lose either pressure or volume of charge air from two sequential turbochargers inexplicably because of the cylinder count.

>>17025775

Right.

The inlet manifold itself does not run with our performance runners without burning extra A/F mixture.

Did you even proof read that before you hit post?

You are saying that a poorly flowing plenum is causing issues with your 'performance runners' (cathedral, long runner, short runner, D port, oval floor, asymmetrical, what are we looking at here?) causing you to burn 'extra a/f mixture.' Extra Air/Fuel mixture. I'll take your poor grammar to mean extra fuel.

So you are trying to tell me you can't get enough air into the engine, so you need to burn more fuel. Are you aware of how buttfuck retarded that is?

ACIS is used at low operating speed in a GE to change from a 360 plenum to a 180 degree plenum to enhance low speed engine response.

You are trying to tell me Toyota and their associated researchers can't get an inline six to idle properly because two turbochargers feed the same plenum.

Hang yourself.

>>17025823
You should look to N54 engines for the same issue. While the TT's feed to the same plenum, the pressure drops due to the plenum layout.

Also, the E/F mixture in itself is provided so as to supplement the ACIS. Problem is, this cuts down on reliability.

>>17025739
So there is a small turbo on one cylinder bank and a big turbo on the other? Wouldn't that cause more back pressure on one side? Or are there actually 4 turbos?

>>17025865

Now you've lost it. It was a valiant effort, but very poor bait.

Would you like to start a new thread and try again?

>>17025873
The intake runners on both sides run at different variable conditions based on the CM which regulates the volumetric efficiency of the A/F mixture. Back pressure does not occur due to CM monitoring at higher load capacity.

awe shit OP is trying a little to hard it's starting to look legit. Hard to believe even the most tismic of tismos would go this far.

>>17025865
Here's a novel idea, make it an I6 with a single big dick turbo. Problem solved
I have no idea why people want their "turbo" car to feel like an na car anyway

>>17025297
>visco coupling

Lmao why do you feel the need to lie on the internet?

>>17025886
>not wanting immediate boost
turbos simply cost less than the gains of increasing displacement anon.
Manufacturers (especially toyocuck) are all about saving in any way possible. People wanted NA power but doyoga wanted to save still? add another tarbo.

>>17025883

Are you just writing technical words on playing cards, playing Pickup 52 and posting the results now?

>>17025899
This

>>17025883
Ok I have a twin turbo 300zx with two little turbos. It makes 400hp, but looses out at around 6-7krpm because you are trying to fit a fuckload of exhaust through a little hole and without an external gate, the turbo taps out.
How does CM monitoring fix that?

>>17025908
No I think what he's trying to say is it's more efficient to be able to control two different intake plenums in boost than just one.

>>17025915
CM monitoring works by restricting the runners to allow adequate boost at certain RPM. It is controlling but it prevents overflow.

>>17025917
This.

>>17025917

1) But it's not, there is minimal difference in reality

2) Quick translation; The intake runners on both banks are variable based on inputs to a CM(?), which somehow regulates the pumping efficiency of a ratio of fuel to oxygen (what the). Back pressure does not occur due to a computer looking at it during high load.

Seriously, anyone with even half a clue is reading this with a smile and a sensible chuckle.

2) Old mate reckons the issue they are having is at low idle. How much boost control issues do you think they must be having at low idle?

>>17025899
Immediate boost meh. My z boosts at 2.5-3k and any earlier it would be hard to hypermile. I just want the word turbo to mean "wow turbo" as in 911 turbo, 300zx turbo, supra turbo ect not just vacuum cleaner v8 wannabe

>holding the throttle steady then suddenly a surge of power kicks in that steps out the rear wheels
>lift off and plant it for that sweet induction hiss
>rises to a scream of 90s high-output v6 and wastegate
>ends with a satisfying PSCHHH (I'm on MAF)

If I wanted na power I would have bought a v8 commodore

>>17025937

Where does the 'overflow' flow to?

Why would you control turbocharger efficiency by derating the engine's volumetric efficiency? There is no way this would be adopted.

If you restrict the inlet runner and reduce the volumetric efficiency, making the compressor achieve a higher pressure ratio to move the same volume of air which increases absorbed load of the compressor, which in turn will increase the required amount of drive on the turbine, which in turn decreases the flow through the turbine, how does this reduce back pressure?

>>17025937
Yeah but were does all the exhaust go? Does it have an external gate?
>I know very little about modern turbo cars

>>17025962
Yeah cool you make good points but managed to completely ignore the reality of manufacturing costs and why manufacturers choose the cheaper platform almost t always.
I don't disagree with you but it's just not how today's world works.

>>17025990
:(
Guess I'll always be stuck in the 90s
>keep your electronic shit I've got my vacuum hoses

>>17025297
How did you get your job? What kind of degree did you need? And how much experience?

LARPing faggot.

Sage'd

>>17025336
What do you mean bro? Just throw in 2 turbos along with the inlin- oh wait, that would make it a BMW M3/4