[ D a i l y - B i k e - T h r e a d ] - /dbt/ "Chicken

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>>17021100
>https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?msa=0&mid=z7CKLSFiJH_M.kMZoQpBOKipI
holy shit who is this? You live about 2 minuts from me. Lets ride!

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>>17021124
The closest I got to where I live are a neato VFR and a ninja 650

>>17021124
The map hasnt been updated in years, he is probably with the skid demon by now

>>17021151
That rear wheel looks so big. Didn't realize there was a map, just emailed my info to get added.

>>17021153
damn that sucks, pretty cool idea.

>>17021155
Took me over a month to get my info added after I emailed, might be a while.

SoCal rider here... next year i'll be going to fairbanks, alaska for graduate school and id still like to, weather permitting, get some ride time while im up there but i don't think my current bike is fit for the drive up there or the conditions. could any friends that live in some of the colder states recommend me some bikes to look for... atm im leaning more towards a DR650

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what does /dbt/ think about Route 81 Support Gear?

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>>17021171
Why wouldn't your bike go to Alaska? They got roads up their, ya know.

>>17021184
it's a sportbike, i'd rather get something that is a better fit for the conditions

>>17021184
what is the appeal of these bikes?

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Clean baiku finally, ignore deathtrap chain pls

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>>17021191
Turbo 'Busa

>>17021195
underage pls leave

>>17021195
Very comfy for your 1,000 mile days

>>17021191
How is a sportbike not fit? Sportbikes are great for cold weather.
>full fairings to keep a lot of the wind off you
>really really hot engines to warm your lower body

>>17021209
Why ride 1000 miles if they're not fun miles. I can't imagine those are fun to rip through the gears or turn....
>>17021205
well beyond that lol

>>17021036
expected to see a yellow Porsche to be coming the other way

>>17021219
Have you ridden one? I can't imagine them being un-fun in any way.

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They want to take my money

>>17021036
are you saying always covering your front brake is a good thing or a bad thing?

>>17021219
because some people just enjoy being on two wheels, takign in the scenery, the weather and the fresh air.
thy still move out reasonably fast but are like riding on a sofa
and when you get old and brittle youll appreciate the comfort

>>17021228
I have not ridden one. There is no way they are possibly even close to as fun as a sportbike, sumo, dualsport, naked, or regular cruiser. They're big, fat, ugly, and slow....with so many other options it just makes me question why. I get it if you're 65+ but jesus...

>>17021236
Weird-looking ducati

>>17021228
Nah I've never ridden a bike and my assburgers prevents me from thinking others could have fun in a different way than myself.

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>>17021249
>I have not ridden one
>I will tell you what they are like

Being this young

>>17021195
How new are you to motorcycles?

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>>17021257
is he crashing

>>17021249
This nigger is dumb. Lol
Nice completely wrong opinions

>>17021195
have you ridden one? lol

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Picked her up today.

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>>17021262
Either backing it in, or stopped and balanced on the bumper

>>17021249
>couldn't possibly be as fun as a regular cruiser
What do you think a regular cruiser does better than a Gold Wing

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>>17021257
>>17021262
I like every style of bike except for these oversized motor homes with external speakers and cruise control
>everyone pretending to like them just to troll

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIEOxQDvvSU

>>17021249
check your autism

see >>17021255

1) those are the kinds of bikes sport bikes stemmed from. Fairings weren't a thing on a large scale until the '85 zx/gpz's came out and were accepted more than other fairing'd bikes before it (as far as production).

Clip ons aren't new, obviously, neither is a forward riding position, but cruisers are just as agile in most cases, being I'm sure you aren't tracking if you don't have basic respect for all kinds of bikes (but fuck scooters, right?)

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>>17021290
lean more than 2degrees before scraping.
not weigh 799lbs
not being ugly as fuck
Then again, they don't have air conditioning....

>>17021249
Cruiser and touring bike are not the same silly troll

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>>17021221
Why? we're all in our lane. Hell I've never crashed on the public roads and will only comment on things I can actually do rather than act as an authority on things I've never done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViuIMEhMtAU

Like making a video about kneedragging when you can't...for example.

>>17021242
Kind of just a bad habit, I'd be accelerating out of corners and still have 1 finger over the brake lever like this.

Doesn't make a big difference but it's just an example of something very minor getting photos taken of yourself can improve and it's not just the big things, you always discover stuff you can do better.

>>17021295
I thought not-turning-the-sportbike was an American thing?

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>>17021280
WTF... I'm not from Australia. Have a sick filter instead.

>>17021307
Looks are subjective m8

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In for dual sports.

>>17021312
have you seen the italians on /dbt/?

One thinks diablo rosso III's aren't good enough for him (and that he can feel where the compounds swap) and the other one thinks SV650s have too much engine braking so he can't learn to corner on it (and it's our fault for recommending it).

>>17021307
>lean more than 2degrees before scraping.
>not being ugly as fuck
This definitely does not describe cruisers.

>>17021312
Nice meme bruh

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>>17021322
dualsport best sport

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If I see yammie should I ride away as fast as possible, or does he only smash Daytona's and not all Triumphs?

>>17021295
eh, come on

you should be able to pop the bike up and down from your cornering posture to allow for last minute adjustments to your angle without worrying about straigtening out

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>>17021287
>stopped and balanced on the bumper
Pretty sure it's that based on how unnatural his position is. It looks like he's struggling not to fall down. When you're leaned like that while actually riding, the cornering forces push you into the seat so it takes no effort to stay on.

>>17021307
>>17021341
lel I didn't even see you uploaded that before me. It only popped up once the page refreshed after I posted it again

>>17021295
Any word on how rider is doing?

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>>17021311
When road riding, what kind of lines do you take? I generally shoot for a late apex (sometimes way too late), especially around blind corners or unknown roads. Do you normally do that or try to apex more at the center?

Goldwing riders are always the best riders I run into. Been riding since before I was born and can outride most people on that big powerful beast.
Those things are beautifully balanced.

>>17021312
Europeans are natural pussies having grown up in culturally homogeneous countries that coddle them from cradle to grave. This makes them more likely to panic and target fixate.

>>17021312
nope. it happens to europeans all the time. It's usually just uninteresting to watch since their 125s can't make it past 50mph

>>17021372
>apexing
>public roads
fucking pointless, honestly.
there's not enough width for it to make hardly any difference.
I mean obviously you roughly eyeball it but i seriously wouldnt put effort into trying to perfect it.

>>17021373
They're babe magnets is what they are. You ever seen an empty Goldwing passenger seat? Nope. Always got a broad on the back. Girls want men on Goldwings, not crotch rockets.

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>>17021379

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>>17021391
excellente meme friendo

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>>17021372
There is almost no time on the road I will not use a late apex, I generally aim to be all the way on the inside of the corner by the exit so I have the entire lane as runoff or buffer if I need it.

If the next corner is the opposite direction then hey, you're already at the right part of the lane as well.

>>17021387
I don't mean crossing the center line or anything. Just choosing the points at which you turn in, then the points at which you aim to start getting back on the gas and straighteng out again

>>17021379
Exactly this

>>17021400
He's not wrong though

>>17021403
I thought the SV was supposed to be a relatively neutral riding position. I'm surprised the clipons are mounted below the top clamp. Is the top clamp just really high on those bikes?

>>17021191
Buy an African twin

>>17021249
Alright, I've got an fjr1300 which falls into the same category as the st1300 in your picture.

To start, they're just as fun to "rip" through gears on and to do aggressive cornering with, it's not like you can't go fast with 130-150HP. They're for the people who want to enjoy the sensations and fun associated with 2 wheels, but also want an element of comfort. Think of it like a Cadillac CTS, fast yet also comfy.

Imo a goldwing is comfier than most shit box cars, so there's that i guess. See below as well.

>>17021373
Agreed, I had the chance to do a trip on my dads 2002 goldwing, the thing handled really well, all of the weight being down below your knees gives you a huge amount of confidence while you're riding. It's only really when you come to a stop that they reveal their weight.

>got to sit on one of my dream bikes today
>my tall ass fits on it
>tfw I can continue to fantasize about it
Feels good mang.

>>17021404
I know. That's why I said it's too narrow. You always want to late apex because early apexing a public corner on a sport bike is like asking to die.

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Is there anything more cringe than the helmet mohawks?

>>17021435
Wallet chains.

>>17021435
you.

>>17021435
Older men on scooters

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>>17021432
>African twin
>African
come on m8

>>17021432
>Think of it like a Cadillac CTS, fast yet also comfy.
Thank you for the analogy, I've driven a CTS-V, makes sense. If that's truly the case, then my only gripe would be the aesthetics, but I totally concede that it's individual preference. Personally I just view them as almost something entirely different than any other class of motorcycle, but not in a positive way. Then again I'm only in my mid 20's

>>17021437
I foresee them making a comeback once millennials discover their existence ironically or something

>>17021433
what bike?

>>17021201
ayy that trip report was dope

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Pls tell if i look cute /dbt/ ;)

>>17021435
All black riding gear bought by the rider's mom that doesn't fit well

>>17021428
the "s" has clipons, the naked is neutral.

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>>17021448
Aprilia RS250, i'm 6'3" so fitting was a serious concern. Now I can think about saving up and importing and stuff.

>>17021438

Found the helmet hawker.

>>17021444
You come across as a huge autist.

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I want these handlebars. You could scoot your ass in the seat all the way back and pull insane wheelies.

>>17021462
that exhaust is....interesting for sure

>>17021480
that's a typical 2-stroke exhaust.

>>17021443
>>17021313

How do you like that thing?

I've looked at so many bikes as a possible replacement for the XR650L, but they're all either way less reliable, way heavier, or way less torks.

>>17021454
Post more

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>>17021443
I know what I said.

>>17021171

I think the XR650L beats the DR650.

Now, if you're going more adv bike, the KLR650 might be the ticket for you.

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>>17021428
it is not obvious from that webm but although the S model has the clipons mounted on the bottom they have significant risers inbuilt into them, 1.5 -2 inches easily.

The SV is quite neutral positionwise for a clip on bike, it has a very roomy cockpit and nice comfortable rear pegs and what not, it's actually a little too comfy for what I'm mainly using it for now as I ran out of clearance on track and with the raised rearsets the nice comfortable 31.5 inch seat height means my legs are folded up like pretzels.

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>>17021428
They're mounted below but they're still raised up like top mount clipons.

>>17021435
Surprisingly I don't sell a lot of helmet mohawks to people who roll through my store. Seems like the fad is dying out now, the replacement is ICON and matte black shitheads.

>>17021536

>Twin
>Powered by two legs

Well played m8

>>17021540
>tl;dr

>>17021171

Can never go wrong with vfr800. Interceptor a best.

>>17021537
>XR650L beats the DR650
Where is this coming from? I've heard a few people say this recently on /dbt/ when it's pretty common knowledge that DR>XR>KLR, the XR is like 10 years older than the DR.

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>>17021526
well, its still way heavier.
but its super comfy and above 10-15mph really give you the dualsport feel in handling, it feels light and quick on its feet for what it is.
my only gripes are the plastics are street plastics no the tough polyethylene that dirtbikes get and its still heavy but thats to be expected.

i should have a much more comphrensive review on it by mid may since im taking it through all manner of shit to get to utah then back home to wa

>>17021537
DR650 owner here that has ridden a XR650 and sat on a few different KLR650s...
XR650 a damn good. DR650 is second. KLR650 I'd rate a close third. All are gud bieks. Put an improved carb on the DR650, do the airbox mod, and get a good exhaust and it'll more or less equal the XR650. You can also go full retard if you have $$$ and get 60-some HP out of it with a certain couple of modifications. 790cc, cam, headwork.

>>17021437
At least wallet chains are practical.

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>>17021546
>due training course
>look around
>everyone has black helmets
>everyone

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>>17021537
xr is king of the three offroad.
Dr is the best middle ground and the klr is the road pig

>>17021552
in heavy offroad riding yes otherwise the dr usually wins out overall

>>17021552

>The XR is like 10 years older than the DR

What does that have to do with it? That's almost an argument in it's favor honestly. The aftermarket is there, the parts are there, it's incredibly well proven.

>it's pretty common knowledge that DR>XR>KLR

The KLR is just a different kind of bike, it almost doesn't belong in the comparison. DR vs. XR? Personal preference ultimately, but the XR just has it's own brand of magic where the DR is pretty generic.

>>17021562
>due
What the shit me

>>17021553
Hello fellow AT owner. Where in WA are you? Kittitas county here. I'm the white AT. I'm doing either a Yukon/Alaska trip in July or a southwest (if I'm feeling like punishment) trip. Got 3 weeks and will have broken my AT in.

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>>17021195

When Gundams become real, it will be Goldwings that first offer the options to transform into flying battle armor. You don't ride a Goldwing so much as you pilot one.

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>>17021577
king county here, ill be heading your way next weekend on my way to utah, wanna try for part of the BDR out of eburg?

>>17021562
Yeah its gotten pretty bad with how many people come in and want matte black with pretty much any brand they buy.

Matte finish is shit and the people who get them are shit.

Not even the salesmen selling the helmets to the shop I work at like matte helmets. Everyone in the industry hates that garbage.

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>>17021556
>pic related

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>>17021556

The DR is a great bike, don't get me wrong. You can do an airbox mod, carb swap, hot cam, 720/780 piston, and aftermarket exhaust on an XR too.

I'll never get rid of my XR probably. It was my dream bike all through my CR80, KX125, and XL200R. Then I got one, and I was totally validated.

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>>17021588
were you at odessa or something?

>>17021582

I was up Reecer creek road 2 days ago (not on a bike) and have been in the clockums as of last week. There is still snow at fairly low elevations. It snowed on Snoqualmie today (didn't stick to road but added to the snow still on the hills) on my way over to the west side to get my bike.

I know of guys who are going snowmobiling tomorrow.... soooo I wouldn't plan on riding the hills anytime soon.

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>>17021583
>>17021562
>just got a matte black helmet because i thought my blue/black one was a bit 'busy'
>blue bike and just wanted to be colour neutral
>mfw
I also have a dark smoke visor. Am I flame pattern hawaiian shirt wearing tier bad?

>>17021563

>xr is king of the three offroad.

That probably explains my bias, honestly. I learned to ride on 2-stroke dirtbikes. My first 4-stroke was an XL200R, and I went straight from that to the 650.

>>17021599
>flame pattern hawaiian shirt wearing tier
>bad

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>>17021598
well damn. i suppose ill at least take a look, i dont have a hard set schedule or route so if i cant get through it im not too worried about it

>>17021605
yeah i took my dr to odessa for the desert 100 and it was slow but it was nice and comfy the whole time, the 650Ls i saw were hammering through a lot better in the rough stuff as id expect

>>17021583

I have a matte black helmet, bought it ~4 years ago, and I wont buy one again. My next is probably going to be pearl metallic white or grey/silver tbqh.

>>17021588
sup alamonon

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>>17021595
I like CC's XR650. I can't kickstart it well because I'm a weak, skinny little shit but it's grunty and comfortable.

>>17021597
No, this was in New Mexico. CC81PT and I met his wife for dinner one evening and decided to take a trail that went behind one of the big runoff basin walls. It hadn't rained in a couple of weeks so we figured it was dry. Nope. We hit the first patch of mud (which is what caused most of that) at about 35 or 40 MPH. The dry and mildly-muddy sections were OK. There were legitimate bogs along the way that got me 10/10 mad a few times, though. I rode it from Las Cruces all the way back to the north side of Alamogordo like that. The Gestapo (aka Border Patrol) dudes gave me funny looks, but didn't hassle me since I'm a skinny white bastard and was wearing my dorky ADVgear.

>>17021619
eyyy whodis?

>>17021599
>mfw day after day people get shitty matte finish helmets and do not know the finish will turn to ass within a year and become a pain to clean

At least it looks dank right?

You're just the norm at this point mate, everyone buys that shit for whatever reason and the companies keep pumping them out.

I never understood it, I like my helmets to pop.

>>17021615
What tires do you have on your AT. I am going to southern Idaho/Montana tomorrow. Gonna be there a week. The dealer recommended MEFO super explorers for wear as they were sure I'd kill a set of TKs just doing the trip. Don't know if I'm bringing the bike as I couldn't get a dealer to work on my bike over there on my timeline and I will exceed the 600 mile first tuneup. Round trip I'm looking at 1000 miles and I put 70 on today. The guys I bought it from said they can't recommend it but besides chain tension they said it wouldn't kill the bike. Still up in the air as to if I ride. Best case I do 800 miles and do 200 by car as I will have access to a car half way there.

Fucking decisions. Really want to ride this thing. Don't want to leave it at home for a week or so after just getting it.

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>>17021624
cc81 has a 650R though, whole different animal from the 650L

>fat bikes and mud
not a good combo

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>>17021615

Odessa as in Odessa, TX? I lived out there briefly after leaving ND, but never got my bike out there before I relocated to AZ. Seemed like there was probably some good riding around, though.

>>17021624

>I can't kickstart it well

Honestly I fucking love electric start. I'm 5'10 ~160lb so kicking these big singles over would be hell for me too.

The only bike that I would trade my 650L for is an XR650R, but Honda discontinued it and the kits for fitting an e-start to it are also discontinued. I've looked at the KTM 690, but I hear too many stories about it breaking and my XR has been unreal fucking reliable.

>>17021645
>650R vs L
Ah, I didn't realize there was a difference. I'll look it up.
>mud
I fucking hate mud with a righteous passion. Short version.
>goop
The handles on the stock rack are handy, ain't they? Also, which exhaust is that and do you have a clip of it?

>>17021646
I'm about 5-10lbs heavier (turned 31 last year; time to slowly slide to being a white fatass apparently).
>discontinued e-start kits
Any aftermarket solutions available?

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>>17021645

>fat bikes and mud

Funny you should mention it. I actually got fucking buried in the mud trying to get back out to the road after it thunderstormed alll.fucking.night the day I took this pic. I was up in the mountains on the indian res between NM and AZ. It took me like 3 hours and half a tank of gas to extricate myself, I had to get fuel at some dumpy native rest stop and it took me two days to dry my bag out.

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>>17021642
shinko 805 rear and a karoo 3 front.
i like both of them pretty good, the karoo does great on the service roads, moderate mud, dirt and loose gravel, and roads havent had it on sand but im not holding out hope.
the shinko i havent gotten much time on yet but it makes it so much easier to work with off the pavement and tracks really well.
ive heard a lot of good stuff about the super explorers, may also look at the motoz tractionator ADV tires everyone seems to love them or mitas e07 if a lot of mud isnt on the plan


as for the 600 mile tuneup, do it yourself, its just a once over and an oil change, follow the book and it takes an hour or two, bring oil of your choice and a filter and find a place that will let you do it on the way over.

>>17021664

The electric start kits WERE the aftermarket solutions. Once Honda discontinued the bike the aftermarket just started to disappear. Used to be you could get frame sliders, electric start kits, oil coolers, all kinds of goodies for the R. Now your best bet is to find someone selling one that's already been tricked out.

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>>17021583
What if I have a matte finish over carbon fiber weave?

>>17021671
Have you and much issue with chain tension? Especially in the first 600 miles?

>>17021678
That's a shame, man. I dunno, maybe some of those bike salvage operations might have a junked R with what you want on 'em.

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>>17021664
yeah the L is a the estart aircooled lazy DS
the R is the water cooled kick start desert race bike of the baja 1000

>>17021646
odessa WA, stumpjumpers MC puts on one of the most popular races in the northwest every year there

>>17021665
clay? i fucking hate the clay shit its impossible to get around in/on

>>17021683
nope, almost 2k on it now and ive made one minor adjustment at 600 miles

>>17021698
What is your mileage at currently? Any major issues?

>>17021685

Maybe some day. Honestly, I'm pretty happy with my L, and there's a lot of untapped potential there still. I'm still running the factory carb (modded tho) and exhaust. I'll slap an exhaust on it this year probably. Once the top end goes I'm going to bump the compression up and put a 670 piston in it, maybe a better carb.

If that's not enough, I'll have to take a real hard look at a the KTM690 despite reported reliability issues. I'm really wary about buying a discontinued bike because of parts availability.

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>>17021709

Love my L. It might be a fat pig, but it's my fat pig.

Now I just need to jet the TM properly and get that out in the mud.

>>17021709
>not enough
I kind of want to save my shekels and go full retard sometime next year on my DR's engine, but I already have a V-Strom 1000. hah

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>>17021698

Ah. I've never ridden in that part of the country. Maybe some day. I should really start looking in to organized events, I've always been a solo rider.

Yeah, it was clay. Once I got out road I had probably 50 pounds of the shit stuck to my bike.

>>17021717
nice chicken strips

>>17021100
I'm thinking of getting a bike.

How much of a pain in the ass is it to get liscensed?

I don't really want tos it in an 8 hour course. I'm an MD, and no offense, I can read the book and retain all the info and pass that test in about 30 minutes, I don't need 8 hours to learn how a clutch works.

Can you do these things online/independant or is a classroom necessary? Can you get a permit and learn on your own or is there always a riding exam?

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>>17021721
For my "adventure," it was the fine New Mexico desert soil mixed with water and that particular kind of tall grass. There's a reason people use it as a building material; once it dries, it's well-sealed and tough.

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>>17021704
about 2k miles due to work and too many projects
only issue ive had is it looks to have a very minor oil leak on the front of the case near the dipstick.
gonna warranty it when i get back
other issue is dirt in the left hand switch gear making buttons stick a little

>>17021721
>mud collections
made the mistake of letting some of that dry on there which only added to the shit baked on the engine and exhaust already

>>17021717

I've opened up the airbox and done "Dave's Mods" on the carb. I'm running a 155 main jet and a 50 pilot jet right now. Seems pretty good. My gas mileage fluctuates wildly depending on how I'm riding. Avg. elevation ~2500ft, but I've had it down to sea level and as high as ~14,000 without any problem.

>>17021745
The practical part of the class is pretty fun, especially if you have good instructors. Don't look down your nose at the less well-educated people; just take it for what it is and treat it as a fun outing.

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>>17021749
>>17021721

>>17021749
Sounds like sticky buttons is a known issue and a big one. You don't have a DCT? I guess it's a huge issue on DCTs.

>>17021749
>>17021760

Haha, yeah that's about right. I've got some mud of the exact same color permanently baked into ceramic on my header.

>>17021745
Most instructional time in a motorcycle riding course is to try to beat it into your head not to get yourself killed. It's mostly just demo then practice.

>>17021680
Is that an old Star? Might wanna check the mfg date of that thing buddy. But yeah that's not too bad.

>>17021757
I didn't mean to be condescending. I'm looking and it seems like these are 8 hour classroom classes.

Driving classes at 15 were pretty boring, you're saying its not lame?

Do i buy a bike first? Do i need a small 300cc type of bike or does it not matter for noobs? What about gear? Leather or is that non-leather stuff they sell just as good?

You see I feel a bit like a fag looking in to this becasue motorcyles are so hated in our field just like tanning beds and cigarettes.

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>>17021761
nah dct is heavier more expensive and ruins a big part of riding for me.
i guess if you use a razor and open up the holes slightly they stop doing it. i just push pull them by hand until the shit works its way out and continue on

>>17021766
yeah..i know the feeling...

>>17021774
MSF is recommended for all riders, the class part is kinda boring but the ride test is worth it.
you can skip it in some states if youre over 18 and just take a ride test at the dmv

>>17021773
It's a star custom, It was brand new 2 years ago.

>>17021774
You did sound a little condescending, yeah, but I get it. Look up the Motorcycle Safety Foundation website and select the Basic Rider's Course. The actual classroom time for mine was less than three hours, and that included waiting on a late person, the sign-in, book work, etc. I had a fairly small class, though. They'll provide bikes for everyone. As for gear, they want you to have your own helmet, gloves, good jeans, a long-sleeved heavy shirt or similar, and sturdy over-the-ankle boots (combat boots or work boots are the usual).

>>17021745

>>17021745

In every state I've lived in there is always a riding exam.

You get the book, take a short multiple choice test to get your permit, then take a riding test to get your license.

Or you take the course and do all the same shit with additional practical instruction and get a waiver that you take to the motor vehicle department and they issue you a new license with the proper endorsement.

I did it without the class, my wife took the class. Then again, I started riding at 13 on dirtbikes so it's probably a good idea for a new rider.

>>17021774
also full MSF classes often supply bikes you just bring your own gear, its a fairly commitment free way to test the waters for new riders, if you know how to ride its good for a few laughs at others expense when they inevitably fall over

>>17021749
I didn't even consider the possibility the brown shit on the header of my street bike could just be baked on mud from all the shit I rode through and not rust. It seems like that would make more sense.

>>17021792
The only person to fall over in my group was a tall old rancher. We felt bad for the guy; he put his foot down just right to where the cuff of his jeans caught the footpeg on the TTR-2something he was on. Didn't hurt him or the bike, thankfully, but he was super embarrassed.

>>17021792
>>17021789
>>17021783
Nice, thanks, I'm completely new so I'll go through the MSF. You can get waivers and all that done in one day?

>>17021813
Yeah. Depending on the particular location, you'll do the liability waiver (usually just one paper) the same afternoon as the classroom component.

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>>17021793
its a bear to get it back off but if you have patience and elbow grease you can scrub it back off.

or be a lazy shit and sand blast it like i did when i initally got the bike

>>17021800
my class was me, one other kid my age and the bunch of 30 somethings who wanted harleys
the other kid ate it the first go on the bikes and left and all but one other person fell over at some point.
the falls knocked the egos down on them

>>17021813
if you dont do the class in WA you just go to the dmv and take a written and then schedule a ride test if they cant do it right then
if you take the class, at the end you get a cert of completion you take to the dmv and they will issue you the new license on the spot

>>17021825
That's how it seems like it works in my state.

I can get a learner's permit after I pass written and then I can ride for a year with a helmet and gear and take a riding test after the year for a full license.

Would that be a better choice?

>>17021825
We had one kind of cocky kid who'd been riding motocross since he was 6 or so; one of the field instructors knew him so they'd talk smack from time to time. Pretty funny. The others were mostly dudes from the Air Force base, the old guy, and one 18 or 19 year old girl. The bikes that everyone said they wanted ran the full range from dual-sports to sport bikes to cruisers. Nobody really had an attitude or ego besides the kid. The girl lacked confidence, but she did OK and her dad showed up the afternoon of the first practice day on his monstrous old Harley, put her on the back, and rode her around the different exercise areas to show her that it's all about looking where you want to go, a little back brake, and clutch/throttle control. The physics are the same between a 280 pound minicruiser to a 700+ continent crosser.

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>>17021835
its really up to you, since youre totally new id reccommend the class before you do much of anything else.
ive been riding since i was little so i got my permit but still had to take the class since i was 16 and had no choice, it had some valuable stuff in it and was worth the time.
had i been 18 i wouldve skipped it but thatd have just been me being a cocky kid

>>17021825
I'm not too worried about the dirty part of the header because to see it you pretty much have to be standing in a specific spot while the bike is parked but I'd probably want to clean it up if I was selling it.

>>17021562
> nice looking helmets fancy colours
> only black in your size

Fuck I just bought another jacket, sized down and hope it fits because I didn't want another fucking black jacket

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>>17021853
that sounds like a good group you had, i was the only DS guy there so i was kinda out of place

>>17021858
not to mention after however many years, good luck getting the fuckers off there.

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>>17021867
I was hoping for them to put me on the other TTR (since I'd already bought and had been riding my DR650 in the desert with CC), but they put me on a TU-250X. It was an ok little shitbike. Except for looking hipster as hell, it would make a good little city commuter for someone who doesn't want to be scootermode.

Have a webm.

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>>17021890
almost need to have the cam somewhere you can see the bike for reference, hard to tell if its rough or your just looking around a lot
have a nap

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>>17021911
That part of that road was pretty smooth for packed sand and gravel; the roost shield on that helmet gets caught by wind pretty easily and the wind was off and on gusty. I've been thinking about different mounts for it on the DR; unicorn suction cup mount didn't work. It fell off on a different ride, but fortunately some farmerbros helped me find it up the road.

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I have a pic related right now but I kinda want something better for long distance and carrying camping gear. What would you get?

https://desmoines.craigslist.org/mcy/6088270330.html
I... want to spend my tax return money on it. I do not need a third bike though...

>>17021923
That with a windscreen and a luggage rack and different seat

Please talk some sense into me /dbt/
>Brought new gsxr750
>Perfect for everything
>Love it
>Want to buy drz after watching videos

Will I get sick of it after a week? Will I ride the gixxer 90% of the time? Will I continue buying 100 bikes like I have for the past 5 years

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We webms?

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>>17021918
why not cheek or chin mount?

>>17021938
always

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>>17021936
Yes. There is no cure except to have ALL THE BIEKS.

>>17021938
All I got is old ones, but why not. Having a good weekend m8?

>>17021936
>>17021945
im thinking of buying a drz 400

is it a cool bike?

>>17021935
What about light offroad?

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>>17021936
fast is cool and all, but youll find you spend a lot of time on a smaller bike like a drz just for the fun of tearing around like a retard.

>>17021949
its a meme but its an alright bike. what do you want to do with it?

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>>17021945
Yeah man just got off work, being lazy instead of unpacking house stuff or packing for Moab.

>>17021945
y no pass

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>>17021949
Do you like it? Then it's cool to you. They're pretty reliable and simple. They have a bit of an antagonistic bent here, since a fair few seem to be owned by idiots who do stupid shit on them (especially the supermoto version), but they aren't inherently bad.

>>17021942
>cheek
Wind torque on my neck would be no fun. Teletubby-mode was bad enough.
>chink
That helmet has a giant vent thing front-center and even having it offset wouldn't work because of the stupid curves in the shell. May just go back to a handlebar mount and call it good.

>>17021958
Lazy days are good days.

>>17021954
>Light offroad
If you mean like fire trails, you can do that on anything

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>>17021960
Oddly enough, the semi wasn't the lead part of that train of fools. Also, blind corners and the town of Cloudcroft was only two more turns up so it wouldn't have made any real difference.

>adventure bike beating a busa on the dragstrip
LMAO. Suzuki fags btfo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6GWgXWkFYQ

>>17021923
Fj09 is a nice option for something on the new side if you're just on road, alternatively just get some farkles for that thing, alternatively to the alternative, you could get a vstrom.

>>17021924
I'm seething right now, that's literally my current dream bike and I haven't seen any within 5 hours drive for less than $3000. If it were in Minneapolis or anywhere further north I'd buy it tomorrow. But I can't justify a 2600km roadtrip for that.

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>>17021963
How are things in flatistan?

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>>17021963
ive been doing cheek for all my stuff and the wind pull is negligible to me but teletubby mount i did notice a lot

>>17021966
Even with street tires? Never tried it honestly.

>>17021975
>Canadabro
Sorry man. Sometimes there are insane deals if you're willing to fuck with carbs down here in Iowa.

>>17021976
Wishing it wouldn't rain on the days I'm off. I got yard work and vehicle maintenance I need to do. Aside from that, generally being lazy and also waking up at 0515 isn't going well.

>>17021987
I might have to give it a shot, then. If I'm on the DR I usually end up riding about 70-75MPH to get to the dirt/woods, but I can just put the cam in my pocket until I get to the good stuff.

>>17021992
You'll be fine. Unless you

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Why is the new triumph street triple RS so much Better than the R model but they decided to give it the shittiest pain scheme of the theee models

>>17021973
That isn't an adventure bike......

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>>17021443

>>17022002
To match your matte helmet and wallet chain.

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>>17021923
>>17021935
Sadly its hard to find luggage racks but yes

>>17022002
Who buys a Striple for looks lmao

Most casuals will think you're riding a junkyard bike.

>>17022009
Stop trying to force memes, no ones gonna be your friend any more becuase of it.

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>>17022005

>>17022014
I think they look like bugs, I can dig it. But yeah everyone will underestimate the bike anyways. Surprised to see the weight on that tiny thing

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>>17022002
>take last years R spec level to the new model
>call it RS now
>make an R that's more like a 1/2 R (has showa suspension now)
>get free perceived premiosity for no extra investment on their behalf.

Gotta hand it to triumph, they really know how to suck their audience dry.

>>17022016
It's an SUV

>>17022012
Oh hi, you brought your 919 to my city.

I've noticed that accessories are pretty rare for the 599 and 919. I have the Givi windscreen but no rack as of yet.

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>>17022020
top kek

>>17022020
All adventure bikes are SUVs

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>>17022016
>this autism again

yes, and yamaha called an MT-125 a "Hyper naked"

marketing terms don't mean what things are, the S1000XR is an upright sportbike.

>>17022016
Sorry I forgot. BMW doesn't make real adventure bikes anymore. Just overpriced luxury sedans on two wheels that attract the dad's who didn't opt to get a Harley post midlife crisis.

>>17022032
Why are poor people so salty?

>>17022026
Literally jumped my bike off your crazy streets, but yeah the only real option is hunting for used racks....
But yeah im a huge fan of the 919

>>17021151
MTL?

>>17021155
VFR400's have an 18" rear wheel from the factory, same as the VFR750 race bike. But a lot of people swap the 17" off the RVF400 onto them for favorable handling characteristics

>>17022019
Can't tell if you're dumb, aside from the numerous body upgrades, the new RS has almost 19 more bhp from the prior models R spec.

Now maybe you're handicapped and you meant to talk about the speed triple, but oh wait, their R spec is a 1050cc engine, completely different size. Oh and it's also 3000$ more than the current street RS.

Sooooo you're fucking dumb

>>17022031
To be fair, the mt125 is more fun than it has the right to be

>my second year of riding my insurance goes down an astonishing $2
I can't even really complain about this because my car insurance has gone up like 40% in a few years just because of the market rates being bullshit but how will I get affordable baby killing high performance assault superbike insurance at this pace.

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>>17022100
all motorcycles are fun, that's not the point.

>>17022073
Literally read the opening line of my post again.

If you're gonna call people dumb at least read the first sentence of the post you're replying to, in other words.

>Sooooo you're fucking dumb

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this guy passed up another 6 or 7 vehicles

>>17022138
It really ought not be illegal to go past people like that. The specific manner in which he did it is a dick move, though.

>>17022138
Oh no traffic was slightly less backed up, whatever will you do

Got into my first "race" today

>casually rolling to red light that turns green
>new subaru pulls to next lane
>wanna say hey because I also have a subaru
>dumps clutch before I can even see him

I just wanted to say hey but thats cool I guess

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>tfw I have to ride for 25 mins in order to get a good patch of road

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>>17022147
>>17022146
weaving in and out of heavy traffic raises the risk of vehicle damage.

>>17022156
Weaving at speed, yes. Lane splitting properly, not really. Moving through stopped traffic, little risk unless the car driver tries to cut off the motorcyclist suddenly.

tl;dr: lanesplitting is fine but doing it poorly is asking for a rekting

(Secret: I don't lanesplit. Against the law where I'm at and I'm a noob who doesn't want to try it yet anyway.)

>>17022156
So does driving 20 car lengths behind the next car while barely moving but here you are.

>>17022162
stop and go motorcycle weaving in and out of a one lane ramp doesnt make things better.
i try not to gun it the second everybody else does.

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>>17022155
>tfw I have to ride 4 hours for the nearest proper twisties

>>17022005
Course it fucking is

>>17022214
That was me when I was forced to live in Clovis, New Mexico for four years because of my job. I made fairly decent money but that place is literally Hell.

>>17022226
My entire country is flat with straight roads, but at least it's a great place to live.

There are some twisting roads around, but not like you will find in mountains. The best we get is following a river, which is pretty good, but any road in the Alps beats it.

>>17022231
Imagine a place that runs from about -10C to nearly 49C, is bone dry most of the time, smells like the inside of a cow's ass most of the time, has people that are morally bankrupt, has a city council that is thoroughly corrupt (collusion is simply how it works), the real estate market is pants-on-head, and the only thing that grows there besides expensively-watered lawns is corn and weeds (which, as a side effect, the water table can drop by meters per year).

>>17022214
>have to ride an hour for twisties
>they have extra low speedlimits for bikes
>they have undercover cop-bikes going around pulling bikers over

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>>17022241
It's a bummer about eastern NM because western NM is pretty bitchin

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>>17022253
Yeah, eastern NM is what West Texas didn't want and Mexico wouldn't take back. Thoroughly awful, repulsive, horrendous, vile place Clovis is. Alamogordo beat it by far.

>>17022031
it still is, it just has a sports-bike engine.

Engines arent what makes the bike you know?

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>>17021180
99% of /dbt/ has no clue what you mean

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Some kid just threw a rock at me while I was riding.

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>>17022306
Execute him.

>>17022306
couple of buddies did this when they were kids.

Biker got off, walked up to them and gave them a slap across the face.

>>17022306
Your gloves has re-enforced knuckle, right?

>>17022306

I was headed home from an airshow once and my skin was burning like fucking fire from sunburn, some drunk highschoolers at a house party ran out in the road and started shouting faggot and shit at me. Never been so close to headbutting someone with my helmet.

So I rode home and drank beer.

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Hey lads,
Looking for a used ~650 sport/adv/dual
Basically sport but capable of gravel range roads and trails on occasion.
>$2500 budget
What you guys got for me?

>>17022320
Dear diary...

>>17022322
KLR 650 if it mostly for road.
650 V-Strom is nice but costs more.
Else you could look at big Duel Sport Thumpers; Honda XR 660

>>17021180
thats the gayest shit ever

like "hey im not even a prospect of a support club or some other lowly shit like that BUT LOOK AT ME I ASSOCIATE WITH BIKERS!"

I've had loads of close calls and I've only been riding 9 months, is that normal?

>>17022214
>mfw I live in twisties
>live in the Yorkshire Dales

>>17022330
Yes, but try to be careful.
My dad has always said you get a few close calls before something happens.

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>>17022327
>a prospect of a support club

>>17022325
Can most bikes handle levelish gravel with the right tires and a good rider?

you all ride like grannies. except the sv guy

>>17022331
>mfw that's 4 hours riding
>and a night on the ferry

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>>17022364
Orly.

>>17022316
I don't wear gloves

>>17022314
I got off but the kid scampered into a slum

>>17022320
Bad idea to confront a group of drunkguys desu especially if you're alone. Good choice

>>17022370
yea I can tell most of you are newer riders

>>17022384
I have only been riding since August 2015, but that picture was as far over as I could get on my V-Strom before I scraped peg/boot. I'd say that's pretty fucking good, considering.

>>17022374
>I don't wear gloves
Idiot

>>17022330
Take a few minutes to examine WHY you're having so many close calls. If you're having close calls because you're driving recklessly or too fast or otherwise doing stupid shit, do less of those things. If you're having close calls because other drivers in your area are professional fuckwits, plan and assume accordingly; remember that on a motorcycle you're invisible and everyone is trying to kill you especially if they're not trying to.

I've only had a handful of close calls in the 8 years I've been riding but there's been the POTENTIAL for quite a lot more; I ride under the rightful assumption that drivers in my city are a cavalcade of fuckups and read/predict traffic to keep myself safe. At this point there's an almost zen-like quality to my paranoia.
>>17022348
Yes, just be careful especially with road tires since the handling will be a lot messier, particularly with heavier bikes and/or deeper gravel.

>>17022364
But I'm never in a hurry

>>17022403
might as well buy a cruiser trike if you don't want to go fast. fucking pussies

>>17022364
That's why I have an adv bike, it suits my grampa style.

>>17022374
You some kinda pussy? Can't fight or what? Just fucking shoot at them. Silly nigger

>>17022405
2sanic5menothingpersonnelkid

>>17022364
>t. sv rider

>>17022405
Tell me again how you go 50000mph around every corner anon! You're so impressive on the internets

>>17022019
The RS also has showa suspension, at least in the front.
The unit in the new STR is fully adjustable, and i see no reason why it should be worse than the KYB suspension on the old STR.
Do you actually think the brand name is the only thing that determines performance?

>>17022416
called skill brah

>>17022424
Something you don't have if you're bragging on here :^)

>>17022364
lol you haven't seen mallorca anon then, his riding is nice and sexy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGSTd_ZNp_g

t. sv guy

>>17022429
damn you are butthurt. not everyone can be a skilled motorcyclist. its ok

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>>17022424
Bet Yammie though way too.

>Bet Yammie though way too.
mm yes

>>17022432
Butthurt, nah. Now post scooter so we can all giggle at you

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>How true might this be

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>captcha AlphaVille

>>17022455
lol you fell for the third world enduro meme

KLR a shit.

>>17022459
christ dbt really has gone downhill hasn't it

>>17022462
call the whambulance we got another butt fracture

>>17022462
The katana way

>>17022462
Must be if kids are getting klr

>>17022467
how new r u

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>>17022459
>"KLR a shit."
He cries as he endures the pain from his violated rectum.

>>17022493
is that ur anal probe? is that what is causing all of this

>>17022474
>caring about some dead faggot

>>17022462
that's why everyone stopped browsing

>>17021296
where in georgia are you

>>17022012
As much as I love the look and specs of something like this, I can't stop remembering that good side cowls are actually the most significant wind protection there is unless you ride full tuck because fuck visibility and a good COG

>>17022364

I've seen him on the old pacific highway. Been funny watching him post his progress clips in /dbt/, I remember watching him wobble round eddie's corner a year or two back (he's gotten quite a bit faster).

>live in nice quiet town
>drivers are nice, easy to go around, no need to worry usually
>go to nearby city of Bradford
>muslim paki infested shit hole
>arabs blasting their call to prayer stuff on full volume with windows down
>on their phone
>ignoring any lane discipline

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>>17022652
pre leathers I guess? here's a pic from my first week on L's, the first time EVER I hit up old pac lql.

>>17022054
North shore

>>17022448
Isn't it fucking huge?

>>17022782
So is the gw, but anyone on those will outride you easily.
They're very well balanced.

>>17021180
I totally encourage stupid people to buy gear from a culture they are not part of. If you have to ask, stay the fuck away from it or buy SOA gear so while you can still identify as gay, you'll just get laughed at instead of a boot dance.

>>17018512
it must have been one of those 600cc scooter or something, that thing was stupid fast and large and took corners at 120kmh +

my 500cc shitter cant keep up with that

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R8 my chain slack

>>17021296
>1) those are the kinds of bikes sport bikes stemmed from.

Sport bikes stemmed from the original British cafe racers, which for many years were the only way to get a sportbike.

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>>17022841
>Sport bikes stemmed from the original British cafe racers

no, sportsbikes stemmed from race bikes, which is what cafe racers were emulating in the first place, the gsx-r750 was basically a street legal XR69 endurance racer.

and race bikes had been fully faired since the 40s and 50s

>>17022840
Bit tight

>>17022850
True, but that's just so I don't have to adjust it for a while

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>>17021435
On a similar note, i was thinking of doing pic. related to my completely white Lazer. How shitty of an idea it is?

How often do you lube your chain?

>>17022870
Never

>>17022870
Everytime I adjust it

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>>17022867
I like the idea a lot personally.

Little kid who threw shit at me came over to my house teary eyed.

His dad must have heard and scolded him.

Feelsbadman.

>>17022896
My dad forced me to apologize to some ugly girl we used to bully when I was a kid.

>>17022848
>and race bikes had been fully faired since the 40s and 50s

Most race bikes of that era were privately built with very few exceptions. All that was decades before GSXRs etc which are very recent history. Their immediate predecessors were Dunstall and Seeley-framed specials whose aftermarket chassis performed better than the horrid late 1960s thru early 1980s factory frames.

Dustbin fairings in pic related were rare and later banned because they are dangerously sensitive to crosswinds. Fine for salt flat racing though.

>>17022897
You deserved it, m8. Bullying ruins lives.

>>17022906
But she was so ugly m8 you have no idea

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>>17022306
>>17022896
Fucking lol, you should do a wheelie past his house.

>>17022841
Only half right. Cafe racers definitely proved there was a market, but I don't think anyone was dragging engine swapped nortons to their factory to base future designs off of. That honor was reserved for the actual race bikes.

And modern cafe racers are just low performance standards with pod filters and taped over headlights so you know someone is going to be offended by your post

How much should I expect to pay for a pair of good quality street riding boots?

Just lowsided in gravel/sand. Clutch is functional but damaged. Gear lever is functional but bent. Cosmetic damage on tank cowls.

Jdimsa

>>17023010
150 freedom coupons

>>17023034
> has bike
> dies in sleep anyway

>>17023057
nice bathroom

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why can't everything be Amazon prime

> fly 4 summer jacket because fatty

>>17023057
wr dox

>>17023057
I'll assume you broke in that white man's house to steal things

>>17023075
Yeah, just lookong for his wife first

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>>17023057
Listen you dumb nigger, wear your fucking gear. Else get checked for AIDS.

Also lets have some pics of the bike.

>>17023079
I can feel my credit score dropping

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>>17023095
Give
>>17023095
Us
>>17023095
Pics
>>17023095
African
>>17023095
King

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>>17023079

>>17023105
Fit for a kang