What's the best performance orientated naturally aspirated V6?

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>>17020086
KLZE

>>17020086
Toyota 3.5l

>>17020086

3.6L Camaro (335bhp)
3.8L Genesis Coupe (348bhp)
3.7L 370Z (350bhp)

If I wanted reliability, I'd probably look into the Toyota 2GR 3.5L

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>>17020086
AJ30 v6

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>>17020086
Two v6s grafted together.

Has anyone tried turboing an SHO v6?

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VQ37VHR

6G7 series

>>17020086
There's no definitive best, but there's some decent ones to look for:

Nissan:
VQ35HR/VQ37HR

Mazda:
KL-ZE

GM:
LQ1
LGX

Ford/Yamaha
SHO 3.0L/3.2L

>>17020206
yes. shosource even offers a turbo kit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PWTcPS1gJE

>>17020250
No. Fuck off. The Mitsubishi ones were shit-tier.

The Cologne Cosworth engines but most colognes were utilitarian in nature, at least the ones in larger displacements.

New Camaro V6 sounds very nice.

>>17020294
My ranger's cologne V6 farts out 160 horsepower with 4 liters of displacement, are we talking about the same engine?

>performance
>N/A
>V6
Pick one

>>17022248
Fuck off, /o/ would cream themselves if Toyota shipped the gt86 with a 2GR-FSE

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VR6

>>17021746

It also farts out 225 torque lol

>>17022275

not the best performance oriented

but deffinately the best sounding 6 cylinder of them all.

>inb4 i6 and S54 babbies crying that their metallic screech machine sounds good

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C32B

>>17022355
Soichiro my son...

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>>17022302

U wot m8.

Everyone knows the best sounding V6 is the busso.

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>>17022302
>but deffinately the best sounding 6 cylinder of them all.
Giuseppe Busso would like to disagree with you there.

>>17022302
Man, have an old M3 and it's such a fucking noisy engine. Not good noise, but the kind of noise that makes you nervous unless you know better.

That being said, performance wise it's hands down one of the best out there. This is, however, a thread about v6 not i6. For v6 usually lean towards Nissan, but there's a lot on offer out there and there's always pros and cons for each.

Protip: to eliminate frightening stock sound of s54, simply get exhaust loud enough to mask it :^)

>>17024408
This. Fuck V6s, just get an LS. Much more power, better sound, more reliable and infinitely more torque.

>>17024417
>pushrods
>2 valves per cylinder
>only 6000 revs

no

>>17024451
>>pushrods
More compact than DOHC
>>2 valves per cylinder
Still plenty of airflow, also simplicity
>>only 6000 revs
And all of them usable because torque

NSX C30 and C32

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>>17024471
Why would anyone use anything other than an LS for their swaps?

>>17024471
I prefer the exhaust note of higher revving euro v8s. American engines sound so unrefined and agricultural.

>>17024497
t. millennial faggot

>>17024497

Porsche engines sound like tractors.

>>17024500
What's it like to know most of your life is over, boomer?

>>17024451
Funny every LS easily revs over 6000. Just get some better valve springs and you can go over 7000 if your camshaft it spec'd right to make power at that level. Pretty simple faggot.

>>17024503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fID1RnrTxs

doesn't sound like any tractor I've ever heard

>>17024533
Only 7000? that's fucking pathetic. Ferrari V8s rev to 9000 without any modification.

>>17024572
And they fucking have to, because that's the only part of the rev range where they make any power whatsoever. No torque.

>>17024579
That's totally wrong. The 458 has 80% of it's torque available at 3,250 rpm. It's a far better engine than anything the fat rednecks in Kentucky could put together.

>>17022420
Ah yes, the Busso V6. I expressed some interest in a mid-eighties Alfa GTV6 and the owner let me start it up and rev it. It sounded amazing.

>>17024637
398 foot pounds sounds pretty good to me. The 458's replacement the 488 has 561, so quite a bit more torque than any production chevy v8

>>17021746
>>17022294
That's why I said the larger ones are utilitarian, I have the same 4.0 in my Ranger and it's good for a truck but cosworth made a 2.9L version way back when that was supposed to be pretty good.

>>17024690
The 488 uses two turbos. Put two of those on an LS and see what happens.

>>17024747
661 hp out of a 3.9L engine is damn impressive

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>>17024747

>"""""less power"""""
>still faster

>>17024776
And it'll blow up if you look at it wrong. I'd rather have an understressed LS.

>>17024556

Sounds like Mohammad in his riced out, straight piped G35/G37. Most people don't run exhausts like on their Porsche's and they sound like shit from the factory. The flat 6 belongs in planes.

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>>17022302
>cast iron block
>forged crank and connecting rods from the factory
>oil squirting jets for each piston
>not performance oriented

>>17020086
Bolt on 3.7 mustangs and 370zs make about 320rwhp. (fully bolt on, stock is closer to 260+?)

That means CAI, possibly tb/intake manifold, headers, x pipe and mufflers. And tune.

Not sure if they all get it, but 2015-2017 cyclone v6s get forged steel crank and rods. A turbo, or even pistons can turn these things into real sleepers. The camaro v6 probably makes similar power. I know the mustang 3.7 usually peaks power by 5k and holds it flat to 7k, works well with the gearing.

Most people don't build these up N/A, but I'd imagine if you cammed them, added some compression, CNCd the heads, maybe stroked them, you should get 360-400rwhp. Not bad. Of course v8s have been doing that forever but they usually weigh more. Newer v8s are back on top though, look what happens when you put DOHC on a v8. 5.0s have been making 430rwhp bolt on with stock 11:1 CR since 2011. 2018 gets DI, combine that with a cam and we should see literally 500rwhp from cam only mustangs.

>>17022395
Anyone know how to get the runners this shiny? Is it chromed or polished aluminum? I'm down to 150 grit sandpaper but even if I go 200 to a 1000 to a 2000 grit I don't think it will be enough. I have 3m polishing compound at work and a big ass rat tail polisher.

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>>17024471
>>17024488
>>17024466
>>17024417
>>17024500
>>17024505
>>17024533
>>17024824
>>17024747
>>17024711
>>17024637
Like faggots coming out of the closet, LS cucks are disgusting

>>17020203
Ford Duratecs are breddy gud eh?

>>17025762
the LS is a pretty god tier engine

probably the only good thing GM has made in decades

>>17020086
VQ35DE REV-UP

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>>17025787
Reminder no LS can run 5's
https://accufabracing.com/accufab-mustang

>>17024609
Whereas even a 4.6L modular makes 80% of its torque by 1000rpm.

The 3.6L V6 in the Camaro is actually pretty excellent.

https://youtu.be/Qrs0oa-XIV4

I'd buy a V6 1LE if I didn't already have a new car.

>>17024497
Top tier pretension

>>17020189
had a vulcan for a long time
fucking indestructible, albeit anemic

>>17025804
GM btfo

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>>17020086

Did someone ask for 305 Ft/lbs of torque N/A?

>>17026750
>Torque
>Relevant

>>17026753

Dorito detected

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>>17020250
my fellow 90s mitsu nigga.

>>17026753
horsepower sells cars
torque wins races

>>17026886
Yes which is why all racecars have marine turbodiesels

>Being this autistic

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>>17026857
nice!

>>17026896
>being this in denial

>>17026857
This guy here
>>17026902
Responding to this guy. NICE. ITB is always most correct!

EZ36R

>>17029606
thats a ford twin cam gaa cosworth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iuKYKwRvcU

vr6

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d-do i fit in g-guys?

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???

>>17024488
>What is a fully dressed engine with all accessories vs a no accessory long block

>>17020086
S54B32 also fuck Vs, inline for life.

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180 degree V6

>>17030953
>inline for life.

>Non of that transverse goodness

Dunno about you but i like my torque steered

>>17020086
Whichever one doesn't sound like shit. Which is a pretty tall order since most V6s sound absolutely disgusting.

Examples:
>Mustang
>Camaro
>Genesis coupe
my ears bleed at the sound of these.
>370z
meh tier sound at best

>>17030961
Pretty sure this one's a flat six
A 180° V6 would have two oppposing pistons on the same crank pin, whereas in the Mezger engines they are 180° apart

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>>17031056
Pic related

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It's not exactly "performance orientated" but the 3.8 Lambda loves to rev and put out power.

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so which engine is closest to the porsche?
>The large-volume flat-six naturally aspirated engine sits right at the back of the new 911 R. Its high-performance unit delivers an impressive maximum engine speed of 8,800 rpm. With its 4-liter displacement it delivers 500 hp, corresponding to an output of 125 hp per liter. The maximum torque is 339 lb.-ft.

even race v6 make less power this engine. it makes more power than the 5.0 ford block can handle...

>>17031770
>even race v6 make less power this engine.
gee I wonder why? Oh that's right. Rules.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW3CGi2yRRE

>>17031795
and yet gm has never won lemans

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>>17031809
>winning a class is somehow winning overall
Come back when they win overall in one of the LMP classes... or even make an attempt.
GM at least attempted. Ford pussied out.

>>17031770

>500hp

HAHAHAH

You can get more than from a NA LS engine. Porsche engines are weak as fuck and sound like shit.

>>17033781
>rides a bicycle
opinion discarded

>>17033836
>Sucks cock

God my ass hurts after taking literal miles of cock. My teeth feel lose after sucking so many hard cocks holy shit please fuck me

>>17034107
I fuck myself with 1 inch replicas of Donald Trump's micropenis

>>17031167
this. pretty good engine desu

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3800 Series GM bullet proof God v6 engines

>>17034198
good for reliability and going from A to B
Absolute shit for everything else though.
You want a GM pushrod V6 to make power with, get a 3100/3400/3500/3900. They'll make power more efficiently with the same mods. As a bonus, they don't sound like ass when you're done either.