Will poor people ever be able to afford electric vehicles?

>>17018714
So fucked. They can afford gas vehicles and dump thousands into gas, but they can't afford an electric vehicle that is free to operate. Like wtf just sell more of your food stamps ffs

>>17018741
>dump thousands into gas
Not in one large lump sum tho

Yes but not a tesla

But everyone wants a tesla and they refuse to buy anything that isn't a tesla because it isn't cool.

the Chevy Bolt is the savior that electric cars need, but it will probably die because it isn't a vegan coop, gluten and cruelty free start up run by refugee children in the bay area that only sources ethical lithium from organic mines that the kids (or their trying to act cool parents) love.

used leafs are under 10 grand all day long by now
define what a poor person can afford

>>17018906
>but it will probably die because it isn't a vegan coop, gluten and cruelty free start up run by refugee children in the bay area that only sources ethical lithium from organic mines that the kids (or their trying to act cool parents) love.

no it'll die because it's made by GM which is still kind of mediocre, and looks really really shitty

>>17018741
Stolen from somebody else:
>Battery Size (kWh) * Electricity Price (currency/kWh) / Charging Efficiency = cost.
>Example:
>85 kWh car (80kWh usable)
>Charging efficiency - 95% at 220V/40A; 70% at 110V/15A
>Florida electricity price: $0.11/kWh
>Cost to charge the car from empty to full = $9-$13
>80 * 0.11 / 0.95 = $9.26
>80 * 0.11 / 0.7 = $12.57

Now, given you may get about 3 miles per kWh on average, that's about 240 miles for ~$13.

Compare that to 240miles / 35mpg = 6.86 gal * $2.8/gal = $19.21.

So if you're charging the car with your own electricity in Florida, you're looking at about $13 for 240 miles for an electric car, compared to around $20 for 240 miles in a reasonably efficient gas car.

Let's say however, we want to compare it to a really efficient diesel. 240 miles / 45mpg = 5.33 gal * $3/gal = $15.99.

So at best, you're saving $5 - $10 per fill, at worst, barely a few.

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Poor people won't be able to afford any motorized vehicle in the future.

Think about it, look at, energy costs, costs of living, wages, at Yurop in general and realize that this is true.

>>17018714
Their Model 3 is targeted at the mass market so maybe.
The Nissan Leaf, Fiat 500e (in the markets where it's available), Chevy Volts, etc. are all cheap and easily affordable on a lower class income.

>>17019852
>using the lowest electricity rates
>and the highest gas

Gas is like $2.10$2.20 in florida right now. Not to mention, the most ignored argument. I CAN JUST ADD FUCKING GAS AND KEEP DRIVING. I can't stop wherever and fill up on electricity in 2 minutes. ESPECIALLY not every 100 miles.

>then calculate in the cost to replace batteries that can barely get you 60 miles in 7-8 years
>all gas savings gone

>>17018741
>free to operate
>his mom still pays for his tendies and electricity

>>17019852
No oil changes, no transmission to maintain or replace, no belts to maintain or replace, no spark plugs to replace, etc.

>>17020041
>trans maintenance
What year do you think this is? You can get 200k miles on a trans without maintenance.
>belts and spark plugs
Yeah like every 60-100k miles.
ALLLLLLL savings wiped out by the cost to replace batteries and have to deal with revolving your life around charging your shitty car.

>having to buy a second car if you ever want to travel anywhere in your car
LOL

>>17020041
>he thinks electric motors will never break