HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!!

He looks just like JGL in a suit

Not surprised, it's a hot new brand doing something different. I just can't stand the 3's interior. Bolt should encourage an arms race though, looking forward to that.

it's going to crash once hybrids become the norm instead of the exception by 2025

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>>16991033
GM's been dead since the early 2000s.

>Tell us something we don't know.

>>16991033
this says more about investors than it does about Tesla

>Passes GM to become most valuable US automaker
Yes and I can beat up retarded toddlers, what does this prove?

>>16991237
This. Why would GM need private investment when it profits $9b every year. Lol. Just lol.

>speculation
>reality

>>16991237
This guy gets it

>>16991200

Try earlier. It'll go down after the Model 3 releases. Highly hyped product nearing releases always skyrockets the brand's market value, in any business.

>>16991388
>Highly hyped
If anything, it's been under-hyped. I only hear about it on /o/.

>>16991637
Normies cant shut up about it, they think they'll be getting a Model S for $35k

>>16992104
They will be, because feels trumps reality these days. A sad state of affairs.

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>>16991200
>once hybrids become the norm

Ford sells more in a single nation than tesla design globally
They also actually make a profit, Lmao

>>16991033
Can even last 3 minutes at the nerdburger

It's not been a good decade for GM

i like tesla and all but this is basically the definition of hype stock.
a more healthy stock increase would be surrounding the actual sales of the model 3, not projections, especially not projections of a company that routinely delays things

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Pushrods push gods.
4 speed more speed.
4 doors more whores.
No replacement for displacement.

Fuck off electric cucks.

>>16992763
reminder that no production pushrod vehicle has ever gone 0-60 in 2.3 seconds

>>16992776
And no Tesla has done that more than twice in a row without going into limp mode

>>16992801
nope. drag times on youtube has done it before.

pushcuck in full damage control mode now

>>16992809
>durr look at this lithium battery break physics

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>>16992822
>pushcuck out of arguments
damage control initiated, lel

>>16992622
911 hybrid coming in 2020 prepare your anus

>>16992824
Post your Tesla

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>>16991033
>Poorfag who can't afford a Tesla
KEK

>>16992836
t. pushcuck

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>>16992849
t. benchracer fedora tipping busrider

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This thread is going a little too well for my liking.

>>16991033
>Investors are clearly betting on Tesla's potential, and are undeterred by factors such as Tesla's loss of $773 million in 2016, and the fact that it sells only a tiny fraction of the cars delivered annually by established competitors.

>>16991033
Is it normal that I hate petrol cars and love diesel and electric cars? Why there hasn't been diesel hybrid car?

>>16992918
Because normies associate diesels with dirty industrial equipment and bro trucks rolling coal while hybrids are associated with "greed" and "earth-friendly" cars

Such a combination would make their minds implode

>>16992882
t. pushcuck

I tought diesels are overall morr clean than petrol these days

Also thats maybe what most americans believe. Yurop is diesel land. Prices are mostly way bigger here

>>16992957
diesels will be pushed out of the euro market soon due to new emissions regs

>>16992622
id rather have straight lean burners than hybrids

tesla has never once been profitable. they posted a $700m loss in 2016 and only exist because of government subsidies and grants, which trump will probably reduce or remove.

>>16993282
>tesla has never once been profitable. they posted a $700m loss in 2016 and only exist because of government subsidies and grants

shhhh......... You going to wakeup the fanbois

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>>16993282
DELET THIS

GM total assets: $221 billion
Ford total assets: $237 billion
Chrysler total assets: $49 billion
Tesla total assets: $22 billion

unless their metric for value is hipster cool points, i don't see where they're coming from

>>16992918
Because a diesel engine costs more than gas, diesel fuel costs more than gas, it emits more particulates, and all the low-rpm torqs are utterly wasted on battery-charging duty and made redundant by the supremely torq-y electric motors they power.

Gas engines are cheap, gasoline is cheap, pollution controls are easier, and the Atkinson-cycle engines you can get away with for battery-charging duty erode whatever efficiency advantage the diesel would have had.

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/o/ will like teslas once the early S' and the 3's start depreciating down into the 10 grand range and people can start buying them and using them as dailies

until then it's a mixed bag, not helped by really obvious bait threads like this one

>>16993969
Tesla is fucking garbage dude, so no.
I mean actually bad cars not in a meme way.

>>16993969
Unless their batteries drop down to $1k brand new nobody will buy a used tesla

>>16993969
>buying used batteries
I actually really hope you guys don't ever do this.

>>16994022
Lots of people buy used Priuses; the batteries don't actually degrade that much. It looks like Teslas keep 95% of their battery capacity after 50,000 miles, 90% after 100,000, and 80% after 500,000.
https://electrek.co/2016/11/01/tesla-battery-degradation/

It's also not like that stupid tablet they put in the dash won't tell you exactly how worn the battery is or isn't.

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>>16993969
>start depreciating down into the 10 grand range
'no'
look at all the cheap nissan leafs on the fucking market
nobody is buying used batteries

>>16994084
Lithium Batteries degrade over time along with plenty of other facyors. When someone decides to sell their well past warranty, high milage tesla for $10k chances are it will need a new battery. Which still cost $12k

>>16994193
>chances are it will need a new battery
I'd believe you if I hadn't just linked numbers in the 5-10% range, and if you hadn't just pulled that out of your ass.

>>16992619
The model 3 will be a good car relax. Not the best, but what it can achieve is impressive. Give it another generation.

>>16993416
Lol people don't invest based just on total assets.

>>16994205
For starters your link has a sample size of 286.

Looks like most have not even reached 100k miles.

No mention of how long they have owned their cars

The only mention of your 500k miles is quoting musk meaning if its true it happened in a laboratory setting.
http://www.plugincars.com/tesla-model-s-replacement-battery-packs-125571.html

>>16994347
And in your exhaustively large sample, how many fucked batteries did you observe?

>>16994384
What?

>>16994226
honestly I want to see the model 3s after about 5/10 years when people buy them torn up from a junkyard and fix them up. will they hop up the electric drivetrain or just LS/LT swap?

>>16994463
That'd be interesting. I know you can LS-swap anything for three-fiddy and an afternoon, but shoving an engine into something that never had one to begin with sounds like a royal pain in the ass.

>>16994479
Hennessey put a 7 liter V8 in a lotus, I consider anything possible. even better, if you can get it registered as the original vehicle you can fly along in the HOV lane with no passengers and one of those green pass stickers

>>16994446
He meant that in your sample size, 0, and with your expertise (casually thinking about it for a few minutes), what kind of failure rates did you experience?

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>>16994507
mfw

>>16994520
An easy way to ignore everything else

>>16994507
Good luck getting that to pass in California. I believe with engine swaps it needs to pass the original emissions standards that the original engine was supposed to meet. Impossible with a gas swapped electric car.

>>16994568
Is that how it works? I thought that meant "original engine met 2017-vintage EPA/CARB regs; new engine must meet 2017-vintage EPA/CARB regs."

>>16994592
eh not too sure

california is a clusterfuck of laws

>>16994537
There is no everything else, there's no reason to engage someone in conversation about something they know absolutely nothing about, but are convinced they do for some reason

>>16994568
>>16994624
That's now how it works, and it's extremely simple, this guy even managed to sum it up in once sentence
>>16994592


>hmm I don't know
>better make something up and post anyway

>>16994647
The other guy made valid points about the number of Tesla's on the market and their battery degradation over time. You're implying that because he doesn't have a link, it cannot be questioned.

Either way, tesla is making their batteries cheaper over time.

Tesla sold 40,697 vehicles in the U.S. last year
Ford sells that many F-Series trucks in the U.S. about every three weeks.


This is the point. Share price value is for speculation. Ford has money coming out their ass because they hustle more cars out the door and at a faster clip. These things generate more revenue by supporting dealerships, re-sale of crash and repair parts and accessories.

Tesla is a luxury brand that has a marketing department glowing red hot. Its the fisker after fisker

>>16995046
>Tesla is a luxury brand that has a marketing department glowing red hot
Tesla does not have a marketing department whatsoever, which is why you've never seen a Tesla ad

>>16995058
ok....

https://www.glassdoor.com/Jobs/Tesla-Motors-marketing-Jobs-EI_IE43129.0,12_KO13,22.htm

you where saying something about not having a marketing department for the marketing managers they are hiring??


If you think a company of Tesla size doesn't have a marketing department you are new.

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>>16992912
>Tesla's loss of $773 million in 2016
>People are still buying stock in a company that made a 0.77 Billion dollar loss

Wait, GM actually makes money? According to /o/ no one buys their cars.

>>16992776

>floor the pedal
>0-60 IN 2.3 SECONDS! HOW CAN ICE EVEN COMPETE!?
>...
>...
>WHY AM I STILL AT 60??

>>16995747
daily reminder Tesla beats Hellcats and Huracans in 1/4 mile which is completely inexcusable

>>16995951
>get half way through 1/4 mile
>battery dies

Alphonse you dumb nigger

>>16995966
>this is what ice cuckolds believe

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>>16995986

>>16995994
>drive fast for three minutes
>car becomes slower than a bus because the batteries are overheating

>>16996014
t. ice cuck

>>16996029
>try to go fast around a corner
>crash and die because your car weighs more than a dump truck

>>16996041
describing the shitvette?

>>16996041
>what is a Camaro?

>>16995986
/thread

>>16996045
>>16996046
Who says I like those cars?

>>16996053
t. pushcuck

>>16996041
>Model S rated as the safest car ever built
Swing and a miss

>>16991033
poorfags are still going to buy shitboxes since it doesnt cost thousands of shekels to buy a new battery every 100k miles

>break down
>have to shell out extortionate amounts of money to a specialist mechanic because nobody knows how to fix your giant RC car

>>16996068

EuroNcap would like a word with you

Model S:
>adult occupant safety 82%
>child occupant safety 77%
>pedestrian safety 66%
>active safety assists 71%

This back in 2014, without the increased standards we have today. Meanwhile, for instance the Volvo S90, this year:

>adult occupant safety 95%
>child occupant safety 80%
>pedestrian safety 76%
>active safety assists 93%

>>16991033
still not making profit
cant wait for that bubble to burst

>>16996518
but muh stock value :(

>the jew media praises a company that removes all control from the people

>>16996509
volvos > teslas

thats saying something

>>16992941
ITT : Virgins becoming emotional over inanimate objects.

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>Put superchargers everywhere
>Charge battery close to max current
>Battery lasts a third as long
>Sell a new battery/car
>Le laughing musk face.xls

>>16995733
Yeah. They make a Crap ton of money because they are truly making good vehicles for once

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yecHTebJV3Q

>good goy, invest in stocks
>who cares if Twitter never turned a profit, it's worth 14 billion cuz we say so!

>>16995058
Lol how are you so dumb that you don't realize viral marketing when you see it? All those reddit posts are articles paid for by teals and all those vids of Tesla 'insane' mode reactions are all tesla marketing at Millenials

>>16995733
Gm was shit 2005-12ish because they cheapened all the cars to try to boost profit when they were going bankrupt and paying off loans. Finally they started making actually good cars, Cadillac, GMC, anyway are great.

I still don't understand why buick exists.

>>16991033
>elon invests his own money into his own company so his own cucks will shill for him.

>>16996955
To be fair the ""tech"" ""media"" is basically just a supercharged marketing department for anyone reddit likes.

Tesla doesn't have to be paying anyone directly to get the sort of sycophantic pandering coverage that gets clicks and shares. People unironically want this sort of ""coverage"".

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>>16993416

>>16993969
>implying I would buy a shitty electric car with ruined batteries, delicate electrical system, and shitty quality

>>16994256
yeah but the headline of the clickbait article in the op doesnt say "tesla passes gm to become most valuable stock share price us automaker" it just says most valuable us automaker. and you judge the value of a company by total assets and profitability which tesla is horribly failing at both

Wait until all the unions and Democratic politicians get ahold of Tesla.

They have a 100% profit kill rate with automakers. I see no reason why Tesla will be any different.

Ask a UAW member what a reverse layoff is...