Miata General - /miata/ - /mg/

>>16969634
Bar of soap: The car.

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What would you think about a NB vs a NC as a DD for a first car? I like the fact that the NC has more security features by default (rollbar, side airbags, stronger windshield or so they said in some forums), its bigger and has more hp, but it costs 7-10k eurobucks, while the NB is just 4-5K and is commented as being "a better driver's car than a NC". Also will an aftermarket rollbar make an NB more dangerous? Pic related: NC chasis with a factory rollbar

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>>16969893
The NC is the better car, the NB is the better Miata.

Also, as for the rollbar thing, yes.

>>16969919
What does better miata mean? And is that an NB?

>>16969919
A distinction between style bar and rollbar is necessary, here.

>>16969893
>a better driver's car than a NC
imo they don't actually drive that differently

>>16969919
that's not a rollbar

>>16969634
Pic hits close to home, now that I got my miat I'm the kid with the cool car but can't ever take it when going out with friends because no seats.

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Use this if anybody ever disses the Miata

Anyone have any experience with professional rust repair?

My 90 has developed a rust spot (about 3 inches) on the driver's floorboard right underneath the clutch pedal

>>16970070
Its not that hard to deal with. Get a grinder with wire wheel to see how bad it is. Chances are its not deep. If it is just cut it out with zip wheels on grinder, fluxcore tack in a new piece of 14 g sheetmetal, finish w bondo and rubberized undercoat. All supplies ~ $250ish plus youll be able to take carw of any more rust u come across

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Have any of you ever done autocross and/or a track day? I have seen Autocross videos on YouTube and I don't know if it's just me but it honestly looks kinda gay. I don't want to putz around in a parking lot all day swerving through some meme cones like a couple of children playing hop scotch. I want to go to the track. The issue is that the track itself seems kinda lame too since novices have to sit with instructors for the first 5 or so track days before you get approved for solo riding.

On a side note, I also just confirmed with the SCDA that for whatever reason they do not require a roll bar in Miatas. You just need to have an OEM hardtop. So I am kinda hyped on that. Do you guys think it's better to drive my car to the event or trailer it?

>>16969926
Car in the post is an NA.
Also, the NC weighs a lot more, is slightly bigger and taller, and more powerful, so purists don't generally regard it as a "true" Miata. I've driven one and they're a blast, I can't think of anything about it that ruins the Miata feel for me, personally.

>>16970223
thanks, it seems like i 'll get the NC for a test drive then.

6'5'' here, my local craigslist is mostly NA and a few NBs. Anyone have success with the 'foamectomy' around my height? Will I even need to do it if I get an NB?

>>16970584
you'll be fine with a foamectomy + hardtop or no top at all

My mx-5 (1.6, '00, NB) starts bad with a cold engine. Cranks fine, but doesn't start at the first try. Turn the key back and try again. It cranks, a loud pop from the exhaust can be heard and then a few seconds later it starts. Then the rest of the ride it does just fine. Replaced spark plugs and spark plug wires already to no avail. Now the guys at a miata forum are saying that it could be the fuel injectors. Does anybody recognize the problem?

I'm still not fully grown yet since i'm still young. My #1 fear is growing too tall for a miata. If I do, i'll probably either get a mazdaspeed3 or kill myself.

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MOMS GONNA FREAK

>>16970818
All ICE have common symptoms.
If your started and wires are fine, it's fuel delivery.
It could be a pump or the injectors. The injectors are a lot easier to confirm than dropping the gas tank.

>>16970826
Are you the same underage faggot that posted this on the Miata Amino app?

anyways don't get a mazdaspeed3 those cars are extremely wack.

6'5 is probably the cut off and you are probably nowhere near that.

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To the guy in the last thread who asked me if I had a Fiat Uno, because I'm brazilian.

A-at least it has good mileage, r-right?

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Did any of you install central locking on an NA?
Thinking about getting one but scared of fucking up with wiring since i have no tools for that at home

>>16970832
What's ICE?
How do I confirm that the fuel injectors are indeed faulty?

>>16971144
Immigration and Customs Enforcement

>>16971165
How does that relate to my car

>>16971144
>ICE - Internal Combustion Engine
Faulty injectors - take them out. Are they clogged? If yes, clean them, if no, move to step b.
Turn engine on. Are they clicking? if yes, they're fine, if no, check for power.

>>16969919
that's the gaybar not rollbar

>>16971178
because you are retarded

>>16971194
1/10
very low quality b8

>>16970584
you will have a harder time fitting in an NB, the seats and doors are thicker. I'm 6'2" and I just barely fit in mine. You can remove a shit-ton of foam though and I've not gotten farther than hacking the big lump off the seat bottom.

>>16971194
Wow, you really got me there, with me as a non-native English speaker who doesn't know all of your abbreviations

>>16971187
Thanks for your reply. What do you mean by clicking? What kind of noise am I looking for?

>>16971334
See? Immigration and customs enforcement does apply.

>>16971341
literally it will click. It's a pump.
I'd advise you to just let the mechanic handle it if it's your DD.

>>16971334
you have to go back

Is Miatapalooza worth going to? I don't really want to drive two hours to stand in a parking lot.

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... HLA tick is my nemesis.

>Note: pic is from 2010 and is not representative of how my bay looks now.

>>16971442
It's not my DD. It's a 'project', I use it occasionally. I mainly bought it to learn how to work on cars.

>>16971534
Go back to where? I reside in the country I was born in.

>>16972480
does it even do anything? it's like every second miata has this problem

>>16972442
No, you better stay home and shitpost instead of going out and experiencing something new.

hey do you guys have any steering wheel recommendations

>>16970198
I don't know man. I really really really want to track mine but it's fucking pristine and I don't want to "ruin" it with a roll bar. Also not sure if a roll bar would be tall enough to protect me.
My closest track requires a roll bar for miatas.

>>16970818
If it has always been that way I would check to see if it's at factory timing.

>>16973986
yea im in the same boat, i want to get a roll bar bc safety but i need the space

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>>16973957
Nardi or nothing

>>16973999
Nice digits mang.
Also, weighs like 60lbs and costs $500 and takes several hours to install

>>16973957
nardi or momo. DO NOT buy griproyals

>>16970198
youre "that guy" that no one wants at the autocross events
>>16973986
if you get a bolt in one you can always remove it later

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Just sold my miata and forgot to take the plates KMS. oh well. Guys I sold it to told me to report the sale in two weeks so I assume they're gonna flip it after they clean it up or whatnot. Lets hope they don't rob a bank or go full supreme gentleman.

Can I drop NB seats into an NA? Do the bolts all line up?

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>>16974548
google is your friend

>>16974559
Why take time out of your day to be a faggot? Like you had to put forth effort to be annoying.
And at any rate I remembered you can because that guy said he did in that review video.
But in the future, maybe ignoring stupid questions will turn out better for you than being a nigger about it

>>16974577
Reminds me of when I ask a question on a forum and they very well know the answer but get some kind of kick out of telling me to go search older threads. These people are absolute cancer

Super or turbo for an NA6?

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>fuel gauge wont move off empty
>having to replace head gasket tomorrow
>going to flush coolant and oil as a result
>first time doing any of that
>black current draining the battery overnight
this car sometimes i s2g why do i love it so much
also when i replace the head gasket should i just reuse the bolts? friend told me its not recommended so idk

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>>16974577
google is your friend

Any Seattle Miat bros? Why do the prices seem so inflated here? This is supposed to be the cheap fun roadster but I can't get a facelifted NB for less than $6k. What the fuck?

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>>16973957

>>16974013
momos are good too you clown

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>>16975456

>>16973957
Momo, Personal, Nardi, Renown, Keys!

steering wheels to stay away from: NRG, Grip Royal, DND, any other cheap chinese garbage. Sure they are cheap, but are you cool with your steering wheel breaking while you are driving?

Anyway here's a good site for used steering wheels

https://www.constant-collection.com/collections/steering-wheels

>>16973517
>does [HLA Tick] even do anything?

No, it just makes a really annoying tick that makes other drivers and non-miata owners assume that your engine is on its way out when it is just fine.

It also makes fast-food drivethrus loud as fuck. I just want my mcnuggets and Szechuan sauce in peace.

>>16974153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB-KBaevPqM

yeah looks like fun lol. sorry, it looks retarded to me. i'd rather do this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkCSodsDh58

>>16970198
Ive taken my miata to an auto cross. Going to another tomorrow. They are a blast, parking lot or not. Its more the idea that you can go harder than normal with no fear of hitting other people or breaking rules.

While I wont deny a track is more enjoyable, Most places vary on what is available to use. Around me parking lots are the only events you see. We just dont have many track courses locally, maybe a few drag strips that are considering branching out. The closest track course lost its contract and is renegotiating. So for now its parking lots.

But you sound kind of like a douche anyways. You want to race at tracks only? Look up events that only happen at tracks. It might be a stupid long distance or drive for you, but hey, its a track.

>>16976902

Seafoam followed by Rotella T6 5w-40 should do wonders. When I fired up my JDM warehouse motor first the first time, it sounded like a team of roofers. Now it has literally no tick at all.

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>>16974013
gotta get the teardrop senpai

>>16976996
I've tried it, including feeding seafoam through the vacuum and shutting the car off for 20 minutes then using lighter or heavier oils. Never helps. I also don't feel like taking the cams out and actually fixing the HLAs b/c my miata is my only car right now.

>>16970223
>a lot more
>80lbs more than a nb

Lads

I'm tempted to part ex my '15 Fiesta ST for an RF once it's released. Is this a good/bad idea?

>>16974577
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=nb+seats+in+na

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>tfw no meme

>>16976978
It's all good. I found one an hour away on the 10th. If I get the striker plates in the mail today for my hardtop, then I'll be going

https://www.scdareg.com/events/scda-palmer-motorsports-park-10-bmw-discount-sports-car-driving-association-648459

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its beautiful out today lads

>>16977322
Get a hard top already

The fuck

>>16977352
yeah yeah I know.

>>16977322
Do you have any pics from rear? I'm thinking about removing mud guards but not sure if it looks better

>>16977322
what kind of rims and tires?

>>16977465
Not him but they appear to be Kosei K1s.

>>16977545
...with some kind of weird Dunlop Direzzas.

Prospective miata buyer here -- part of me thinks than an NB is superior in every way to an NA but nobody wants them because no pop up headlights. Am I wrong about this?

>>16977556
a clean NB is cheaper than a clean NA in most places

if you're taller and or fat, you're going to fit better in the NA as well

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>>16977556
They're almost (almost) identical cars.

The chassis is a little tighter on the NB and some have variable valve timing. The NB is heavier though, and the whole point of a miata is being lightweight. I also think that the NB looks awful in comparison but I certainly am not going to hate on NB owners.

>>16977556
technically nb is improved in some places but it's so negligible it's down to preference so pick your poison

>>16977604
why was the 97 heavier than the 96 when they're mostly identical?

>>16977594
well clean car to clean car. I'm 5'11", 150 lbs so I should fit either just fine. Perusing craigslist for a few months now it's hard to find a clean NA for sale in my area, they all seem to be high miles with rust or clear coat being eaten away

>>16977604
yes I understand NB is heavier but as your pic shows the power:weight is better, though the lighter car should have slightly improved handling. I agree I like the NA aesthetics much more though.

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>>16977641
>as your pic shows the [NB's] power:weight is better

Right you are, Ken. But again, power was never the point of Miatas.

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>sat in this beauty this morning
Rear visibility isn't as bad as everyone says.

Still haven't seen one out in the wild yet though.

>>16977667
ok then by that logic I should just import a cappuccino

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Any of you guys have any idea what I'm doing wrong? My side striker plates have no tension on them. It feels like the hook is too high up or something

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It just clips into the groove. Absolutely zero tension

>>16977738
YOU FUKKIN' SHOULD.

>>16977684
Fuck that's nice. Are they now on sale in the UK? Or was it just for display

>>16977788
OK FINE

>>16977794
GOOD. I HOPE IT MAKES YOU HAPPY.

>>16977802
I'M SURE IT WILL AND ITS CUTER THAN YOUR MIATA

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>>16977809
...
... you're right. It is.

I would spill jelly from my orifices upon seeing it.

>>16977793
the RF is on sale now but that particular one is a launch edition and I read they're all sold out

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>>16977556
NA is the purest

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A E S T H E T I C

>>16975016
why is miat sad

>>16976883
lovely paint~

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>tfw every 200k+ shitbox that has been riced out and has cut to shit fenders is 3500+ in my area

I JUST WANT ONE THAT IS UNMOLESTED. NO WELDED DIFF, NO STRETCHED TIRES, NO RATTLECAN PAINTJOB, NO CUT UP FENDERS OR HUGE FUCKING DENTS IN THE REAR.
YOU
FUCKING
FAGGOTS

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>>16977920

Currenly experiencing this feel. Where I used to live you could get a clean NA for $3k-$3.5k. Now where I am people are asking $4k+ for WELDED DIFF DROPPED TO THE GROUND 200K CLEANEST MIATA YOU'LL FIND NEEDS NEW REAR TIRES SOFTTOP HAS A MOONROOF SIZED HOLE IN IT NO LOWBALLERS JUST DID OIL MYSELF SO NO MAINTENANCE RECORDS

>>16977993
Exactly what I'm finding. Decent looking clean NAs are 5k+ and still high miles.

NA tax is real

Just found this.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/6079160964.html

What do you guys think?

Opinions? Help please. Best deal I've seen in weeks. But is 200k too much? https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/6079907758.html

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>>16978312
>that interior door panel
Looks nice though, I was looking at that one earlier but I can't deal with red cars.

Burlington reporting in.

>>16978338

Look at those 400 Black Ices too. What a madman.

Seattle here. Parking is torment.

I really like >>16978288 color
I'd be all over it if the miles weren't that high. I'm pretty hesitant about 200k but I'll see.

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>>16978471
Seattle is hell man. I'm going to check out that grey one right now.

>>16978485

Are you going alone? Fuk I can't bring myself to drive an hour to Auburn alone to check out the one I posted.

Good luck my dude, report back on the quality of the grey one. Looks really good. Hope you get a good deal should you decide to buy it!

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>>16978506
Getting a ride from a friend, my daily has one of the front axles held in with 1/2" of homemade shims and red loctite.

Thanks man.

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Looking like Johnny 5 today.

>>16980250
NO DISASSEMBLE

>get down to head gasket after an afternoon of help from friends
>new head gasket makes the head not set properly
>found out we might not have even needed to take it out
F U C K

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>>16977684
I got one!
Well, I'm a Canuck so it might have been a little easier...

>Sell my Boxster S to Mazda in January
>Order a White ST GT 6MT '17
>Wait 3 months
>Dealer brought in an AT all the way from Hiroshima
>WTF man
>Get red RF GT 6MT for same price
>Everything worked out better than expected

Which B6ZE parts are compatible with the BP?

For example, if I pull a BP from a Protege to swap into my NA6, which Miata-specific parts can I use from the B6ZE and which will I have to source elsewhere?

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>>16977384
here

>>16977465
kosei k1's on dunlop direzza z2's

Just went to a U-P-U-P and got a valve cover for $20, any tips for cutting it to expose the cam gears and then painting wrinkle red?

>>16981235
Don't.

>>16981247
...why not?

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>>16981213
Drizzera Z2 star's are godly tires.
Also, idk why but my suspension looks all wonked in this pic.

>>16980314
>new head gasket makes the head not set properly
You did get it machined, right?

>>16981352
Exposed gears and belt is what I'm guessing, but I'm right there with you. I'd do it, assuming the car doesn't leak any fluids and I'm trying to tune it.

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>>16981371
Another vote for Z2.

>>16981770
its not warped, the actual head gasket itself is warped
i honestly think it wasnt even the head gasket, it was probably the oil being too thin and rich, and wrong coolant

>>16977064
all the chassis stiffening you'd have to add to an NA to make it as good as an NB would make it weigh the same anyway.

also you can put NA popups on an NB with some work.

>>16981925
>also you can put NA popups on an NB with some work.
WHAT
EXPLAIN

>>16980250
the horror

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>>16981963
swap hood, fenders, bumper, headlight mechanism, probably drilling some mounting holes for said mechanism and fabricating fender brackets, then wiring the whole thing.

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>>16982154
swapping NB front ends onto NAs is apparently popular too.

>>16982161
NA rear > NB rear

>>16981213
Thanks, will get rid of them today

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>>16982154
>>16982161
disgusting

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Fucking screws. Can't loosen them because they spin through.
Any tips how to remove them without a saw or drill?

I went to tighten my throttle cable. Then i noticed that the piece at the end doesnt rotate easily. Should i lube it or is it ok like this?

>>16969893
Got any more pics like this?

With the NA / NB / ND?

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>>16982808
This damned highlighted nut is spinning inside its clip. Can't cut it so I will have to drive around with loose bolts.
Any ideas?

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>shopping for summer rubber, or at least good all-seasons

i have 16x6.5 (pic related) and i kind of like them in a goofy early 2000s stock way so i'm not too inclined to ditch them

the stock tire size is 205/45-16, so i'm looking around for stuff close to that overall diameter (within 5%)

any suggestions? i'm looking almost exclusively for used tires, not new ones

>>16982154
>>16982161
>apparently popular
i've never seen it done except on that purple nb

>>16983903
I've had good luck with Yokohama S-drives. Oddly enough they are also really good in the rain. Looking for used tires would make that a bit of a problem though.

>>16983903
i've heard good things about the firestone firehawk indy 500's. They are pretty cheap too, new at $76/tire on tirerack and come in 205/45/16. I also like the BF goodrich g-force sport comp 2. But if you're looking for used tires you won't really have much choice I don't think

Well boys looks like I wont be able to attend tomorrow's SCDA event at Palmer. I didn't realize that motorcycle helmets and car helmets were different. I just assumed my motorcycle helmet would be fine but the SNELL ratings are different so it's a no-go. Guess I'll do the one on the 24th at memerock instead

>>16985448
>motorcycle helmets and car helmets were different
>implying

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>noise in drivetrain at speeds above 20, correlated directly with speed while not pressing the clutch
>just a constant roaring noise, literally sounds like tire noise, except it isnt because it does this while on jackstands
i think it's the diff
>drain the diff
>black fluid with silver marbling through it, smells like burnt transmission fluid
uh oh
>there's four small metal chunks on the magnetic drain plug, about 1/4" in size
UH OH
>fill with new fluid
>get the car back up to 6th on the jacks again
>the noise is still there, exactly the same

fucking pic related

what could it be /mg/

>>16986298
Sounds like your diff is fucked.

>>16982154
>>16982161
conversion looks cool but that car in particular looks like junk

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Replaced my leaky valve cover gasket and cam angle sensor o-ring today. NGK wires car came with are now fucked because of leaky valve cover tube seals, had to order another set.

>>16987022
You need a new dipstick.

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>>16987080
Eh, it still works, just the top part is gone. I'll pull one out of the junkyard next time I go.

>>16986628
yes, unfortunately it's one of the few with good pictures and of course there's little documentation.

>>16983908
some forums I've found people who want to swap the NA popups for the NB's fixed lights, it seemed to be a more common topic than the other way around since adding the pop-ups adds weight and complexity.
Personally I like the NB's swoopy fenders more than the NA's soap bar aesthetic, even if the NB headlights are a bit 3rd-gen Ford Taurus (everything was in 1998).

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>tfw your town had a NASCAR-sanctioned short oval and you didn't know about it until NIMBYs had it shut down and turned into a velodrome

rip in pepperoni asheville speedway

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looking into t1 towards the start/finish, you can see where the pit exit used to be, the infield is now basketball, tennis and volleyball courts. I wish someone could get some "powered quadricycles" out here and do some vintage-style motor racing, there's not really enough banking to make riding bicycles here interesting.

>>16987248
>>16987307

>tfw your town had an abandoned airfield with a decently paved strip perfect for general hooliganism particularly with motorcycles
>tfw some stupid kids party there one night and some girl gets too drunk and dies and the town demolishes the entire thing

>>16987248
>asheville
fuckin what?? something exciting was in south carolina?

>>16987248
somewhat related but not really

tfw NASCAR ends an agreement with a short track in your state

>NASCAR said it terminated its connection with the New London-Waterford Speedbowl in the wake of a sex trafficking investigation involving its owner.

>According to the arrest warrant, Robert King, going back approximately 20 years, sought out young men with varying degrees of psychological disabilities for the purpose of using these individuals for prostitution.

wtf i hate NASCAR now

>>16969634
would this be a good buy?
https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/6053223572.html

>>16987724
No.

>>16987724
If it's rust free then yes

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Ive found some rust on my NA sort of on this corner area thats only exposed when you open the door, not on the joint but nearby

marked out area on a google image, will post actual damage when I get the chance


do i an hero

>>16987724
Its a bit expensive but otherwise looks alright

>>16977999
dubs then trips my god

bought mine for 2800 kiwibucks, doesnt need more than mild rust treatment on the body and maybe a brake pad change

feelsgoodman

>>16987751
>>16987788
>it's a bit expensive
what? that's the cheapest one i'v ever found with low miles can you guys find a better one? how much should you pay for one in good condition with less than 130k miles?

>>16988035
I guess in the US the prices are a bit more fucked. Like I said, I found one in decent shape, some scratches and paint fade, for 2800NZ, which is more or less 2000 USD.Prices are going up over here too though

>>16988279
also mine had 155kms, so just under 100k miles

>>16988279
yeah there all 4000+
they will want 4000 for one with almost 200k miles over here

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>>16978506
>>16978515
Welp, I'm buying it tomorrow after work. Seems pretty good, higher miles but no leaks, LSD, originally white. Macco paint job but it looks like they did a pretty decent job.

Second time I've ever driven one, and it was way too much fun.

SOON™

>>16988399
woah fuq

glad to be in kiwiland desu

>>16987724
can any muricans help me?
i want a miata

>>16987771
pls reply idk what to do with rust

>weather's finally nice and the salt on the roads is all gone
>want to take Miata out but it needs some work before I can
>too depressed to get anything done with it
>no motivation to do anything right now except eat, sleep, work, and sit in my room

I wonder if I should have my doctor put me back on SSRIs. I hate the fake feeling they give me, but at least I'll have a bit more motivation to get stuff done.

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>>16988790
try working out?

I dont know jack shit about depression and never have been depressed but whenever Im WILD sad or angry I go for a run and feel better after.

Also driving helps too but in your case you need motivation to get shit done with your car before driving it so yeah.

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>>16969634

>tfw no miata
>driving
>pass a dude in an NA with his top down and a golden retriever sitting in the passenger seat

double jealous

>>16990141
that happens to me all the damn time

you never spot certain cars until you're in the market for them (and either barely have any money or there aren't any good ones out there) and then you're just jelly

>>16990158
yea, I keep seeing NAs everywhere now that I want one
I'd have one but I'm currently stuck in a high insurance claim area, combined with the fact I'm young and only had my license 6 months I just couldn't afford the insurance on a miat
Otherwise it would have been my first car

Felt especially bad yesterday cause it was the warmest day of the year so far and I just wanted to rip the roof off of my VW Polo

>>16990175
you know you aren't required to pay for collision or comprehensive, right?

>>16990221
my third party only quotes were pretty much the same as comprehensive
I just have to wait until I live in a better area and have a few years no claims bonus

>>16990225
how much were they quoting you? i have 7 points on my driving record from a DUI and I am only paying $600/year for my 1990 and that is WITH comprehensive so I can cover my windshield since they crack very often around here so yours cant be much higher than that

>>16990233
I'm not in the US so there isnt much point in comparing

Last week my slave cylinder died. Replaced it and did full service + rad flush. Day later found a giant dent in the wing, looks like someone fell on it. Went for a drive yesterday and now radiator is fucked.

Starting to lose hope now.

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>>16990239
>PAYING FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S SHIT

>>16990529
u wot

>>16990521
>wing

Are you a riceboy or a britbong?

>>16990535
Your rates are higher than the USA because you probably have a bunch of socialized programs that require you to all pay for each other instead of just paying for yourself like a civilized country does. Same reason why a 16 year old can get a Hayabusa in the USA yet you have to be 24 and pass 3 different licensing exams in the UK.

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>>16991096
you seem upset

>>16991072
I'm a bong lad

>Looking to buy an NA
>Live in the middle of fuck nowhere
>Trucks, trucks everywhere

I'd love to drive one out around here but aside from the roads being shitty, all of the truck drivers around here are shitty too. Tailgating constantly and acting like they own the place.

I really want to own a Miata but I'd fear for my own safety every time I went to drive it out here. Should I look at a newer model or just not worry about it?

Always wondered; anyone here who swapped their engine for something stronger? A Miata might not be about the horsepower but if you can have both the Miata experience and the horsepower, why not? Forgive me if this is a shitty question, my love for the Miata has only recently developed.

>>16991474
engine swaps are popular, but i doubt there's more that one person here that engine swapped their miata, especially since it's way more reasonable to turbo/supercharge it if you want power

i was once in a position where i could do a professional swap because i have the money and time, but after some consideration i decided not to, when you have enough money to make a swap you might as well just buy a faster car and not worry about potential problems that comes with the swap

in fact it's precisely what i'm going to do this year, i'll just buy a more powerful car
not selling my miata though, i love the car for what is it

>>16991619
Alright, thanks for the answer. I completely forgot about the existence of turbo/supercharging. I want a Miata but I also want a bit more power than they offer, so I'll have to look into that. Current favorite is a '96 but I doubt I can find a good one nearby for a reasonable price, other models are okay as far as prices go though.

Well it finally happened boys. The first hot day of the season and my Miata shits the fucking bed. I hop on the highway and try to blast the A/C and nothing happens. My radio shuts off and my tachometer starts bouncing all over the place

I turn the car off and it's dead. I get a jump, drive for a bit longer, and it dies again - so my charging system is somehow fucked

Unbelievable

Here I am waiting for a fucking tow now that's going to cost $100

>>16991777
Sounds like you lost a belt or two.

>>16991831
Could be a failed turbo too

yo how gay is it to take prom pics of your waif in the miata?

>>16991831
I turned on the AC yesterday and it was making some terrible squealing noise. So I just turned it off and kept driving.

You think it's the alternator?

>>16991894
Sounds pretty gay.

Do it.

>>16969634
>>miata feels
Oh for christ sake.

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>>16991257
>I'm a bong lad

Yeah when you said wing, I was visualizing a giant ugly ass ricer spoiler, but then remembered you bongs call fenders wings. Hard to keep up with all the British terminology, boot, hood, guffpumper, St John's Twist, frontispiece etc.

>>16991635
>$100 tow
>he doesn't have AAA

laughingwhores.jpg

>>16992380
>hood
that's the american term
>St John's Twist
sounds lewd

>>16992420
It's a burger word for the proper part of the vehicle it's associated with, the part that covers the engine bay. Bongs tend to think it means a part that covers the cabin, like the car is a person and wearing an article of clothing.

>>16992411
I do have AAA which is why I'm pissed about how much it cost. First 3 miles are free then it's $4 every mile after. I could have actually made it home if I had two fresh batteries with me

>>16988419

Congrats anon. I'm amped af for you.

I'm actually picking up the one I linked here >>16978312

Despite 200k on the clock, the guy selling it just really enjoys fixing Miatas. It's a 1994 NA8 with a Torsen LSD. He's done fantastic work to it, got it a new soft top, painted it recently, nearly rebuilt the engine. I was shocked to see it has 200k on it. I went with a friend yesterday and we both drove it and decided it was a great deal. He was firm on $3k but it's the best quality for the price that I've seen. Friend and I are going back next weekend to pick it up. Guy said he'd take the ad down (he did) and he'd keep it in his garage until then. I can't wait to be back in a Miata. Even just the short drive I did yesterday I was smiling. I missed it so much.

On a related note, if a Miata has no AC, can it still push heat? Or are non-AC Miatas just torment in the winter?

Also how difficult are tension cables to install in a soft top?

ALSO, where do you guys put your slaps on a soft top Miata?

>>16993748
Mine only blows hot air so yes.

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>>16974577
>you had to put forth effort to be annoying
lol, the irony

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>>16993748
I got it. Holy fuck. 300 miles of Washington traffic.

The meme is real, this is exactly how I imagined it. Pretty peppy for a 1.6, I've never had so much fun driving before. Holy goddamn the steering is stiff but sensitive as fuck.

So this is what people were telling me I was missing out on while I was driving 1980s Saabs.

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>>16995324
Grats anon!

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>go for a drive down local touge
>start smelling burned clutch
>keep going
>pass a mustang owner snapchatting his car parked in a gravel runoff
>still smelling clutch death
>keep going
>round the next bend
>a Saab 9-3 is having its brakes ridden down the hill at 35 mph
>the stench of burned friction material is overpowering
>i can hear the calipers screaming for mercy from 2 carlengths back
>the miata is happily coasting down the hill in 4th with absolutely no pedal at all
>never once saw the poor Saab's brake lights go out before i turned around and bombed back up the mountain

>>16995785
People who can't ride downhill shouldn't be allowed to drive.

Some great hills nearby by but i always get stuck behind brake riders.

>>16991096
just like how in america you pay for your own healthcare instead of getting it for free lul

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>>16995918
On the way back down the Blue Ridge, I got stuck behind some old farts in a Thunderbird doing exactly the same thing. Top down, doing 45-50, brake lights on to the bottom of the hill, 4 miles or more. Morons.

But oh, that LSD, that positive turn-in, so light you can engine brake in all the gears and it just grips for days, why do other cars even exist?

>>16995918
what's the proper way, low gear right? What if you're in an auto?

>>16992344
dude the car is nothing if not a rolling good feel generator.
I know a dude in my apartment with a '94 M Edition with ruined paint, a clapped-out top and broken interior trim, but he fucking loves it to pieces. He's got a roll bar and a racing seat and a loud exhaust.

He parks it with the lights up and googly eyes stuck on with a big felt tongue hanging out the grille, right near the entrance so it's the first thing anyone sees as they come home. It actually made me want my own. Then I drove a few and that, friend, is the best feel of them all.

>>16996240
Automatic shifters still usually have control over gear ranges, most autos have a mode that keeps the transmission from advancing beyond 3rd or 2nd gear, and almost all have an L mode that keeps the transmission in 1st and 2nd specifically for descending hills without torching your brakes.
I think a lot of average drivers associate high engine speed (or lots of noise) with engine damage regardless of the redline, which is how you get idiots who don't use these modes.

I used to have a Volvo 850 that responded beautifully to actually using the auto shifter's lower gears in regular driving, it was faster than waiting for the transmission to kick down for overtakes and made accelerating from a stoplight a little more fun.

>>16993748
the engine and transmission make the interior warm in normal operation, if your shifter gaskets are old it will be even warmer and you'll feel the heat of the transmission thru the shift boot and center console.

>ALSO, where do you guys put your slaps on a soft top Miata?
front quarter windows, driver side lower windshield or passenger side upper windshield out of the arc of the wipers, wind deflector, trunk, gas door, etc

I'd only put stickers on glass or a part of the car that can be removed and replaced because if they're on there long enough the paint around them will naturally fade or wear while the paint under them will not and it will look strange when they are removed.

>>16995324

It really is the realest meme. I never thought I'd care about power so little until I got behind the wheel of a Miat. Such a blast to drive.

Maybe Seattle /o/ meetup someday and I'll get to see it. :^)
Grey paint looks great! I'll be sure to post mine once I get it this weekend.

>>16996277
Using noise to determine when to shift isn't always bad. When you just want to drive fuel efficiently, noise is a pretty good indication of when to shift up a gear (provided you're too stupid for/don't have an RPM meter). Unfortunately all the wrong associations are made with it like engine damage. I wonder what these people think the redline is for? Instant breakdown?

>>16996713
It's clearly the line of death which will cause your car to instantly explode.

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Alright /mg/ anons, time for a PSA for y'all.

I had this really fucking loud clunk in my NA whenever I applied the brakes more than around 50% suddenly, it clunked again when I went over speed humps, but only if I caused the clunk by braking before the speed hump. In any case, this thing drove me mad for the best part of 3 months but I think I finally figured out what it was. If you look in the diagram at figure 4, that was the cause of my issue. I tightened up those bolts to spec and the clunk disappeared. The bolts weren't really loose, just maybe 20lbs/ft under spec. I hope this helps out someone because I nearly went crazy trying to find this noise. Luckily it also led me to notice my lower ball joints, and tie rod ends were fucked, so that's a plus.
Make sure to check all your suspension bolts and nuts and make sure they're within spec, it could save you a lot of trouble.

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>>16996836
>shitbox has suspension bits failing and bolts backing out
>psa needed
yea nah

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>>16996922
Well, it is a mostly original car with 85k miles on it, some stuff starts to go bad eventually. Previous old man owner just kept fluids in check pretty much. Besides, no winter where I live so suspension bolts don't have the chance to get rusted in place. Mixed blessing

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>>16996935
damn that makes me miss my NA
looks nice anon
my NA felt so floppy and unsafe until i did full bushing upgrade

>>16996944
That's what I plan on doing next, the wishbone bushings are starting to look worse for wear, and I feel that I should just take it all apart and press in new upper ball joints just in case. They're fine, but might as well. Once I got that in place, poly bushings all around. Then get that oil leak sorted.
Does anyone else seem to always find the area between the tranny and the engine moist with oil? I think the rear main seal is leaking and it's coming out of the little pinhole drain on the tranny, but the clutch isn't slipping at all so I don't think there's any oil in the bell housing. I go through about a quart every 3500 miles maybe.

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>>16996962
that oil consumption seems pretty normal

i would be wary about the oil weep though

rear main seal is cheap and you seem inclined enough to do yourself if youre doing bushings

all new bushing will make it feel like a totally different new car

>>16996962
I experienced the same thing, turned out to be the valve cover and/or cam angle sensor seal.

>>16996982
>australia

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>tfw NC diffusers are stupid expensive in burgerland

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>>16997088

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>>16996984
When that cam angle sensor leaks it goes all over the rear engine/transmission bell housing area, so yeah. I need to drive mine on ramps and douche the undercarraige with oven cleaner and pressure washer now to find anything else that may have been leaking on mine.

>>16988786
either you do it yourself and it will probably look like shit and the rust will come back in a year. or you hire a pro and it will cost a lot. google for instructions if you do it yourself

>>16993748
>ALSO, where do you guys put your slaps on a soft top Miata?

I'd like to have some pics of slaps on a NC soft top. I'd rather not put it on the windshield since it's already so tiny, and the back glass has the defrost lines thing that would damage vinyl. Also no front quarter windows ;_;

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can someone post some miata pics at a nice resolution to make my desktop wallpaper

preferably NA

Well, after some further testing, looks like my alternator shit the bed. The case was completely black from oil or some other substance so it's not much of a surprise I guess. This is also the first time I have ever done anything remotely serious in the engine bay so I am pretty happy about how smoothly the whole thing went.

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>>16972442
t b h it was pretty cool, and i was able to snag these nifty M2 style mirrors for a good price

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>>16977322
like the koseis

My Miat gave me a slight golden shower today when I changed the fuel filter (and yes, I had depressurized the line). Was awesome.

>>16999901
have you ever spun out fucked up on opium? when did you get ur miat

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>>17000128
I've spun out plenty of times, both on opium and sober, but I only try powersliding / drifting on corners that I feel safe doing so in. I've spun out easily 50+ times, maybe over 100 but I always know when it's about to happen and mitigate the spin so I've never hit anything, even a curb.

Shit, about 6-7 years ago I was powersliding a wide sweeper (already not a good idea) and the tires all regained grip mid-slide sending me rotating the other direction and I flew off the road going probably 50-60, somehow the alignment was still 100% in-spec. You really shouldn't try to learn drifting if you won't accept that you'll fuck up now and then as you try progressively more risky slides. I might even upload a vid of me fucking up for giggles.

I got the miat in august or september of 20.08. It had been left in someone's back yard just off the coast during hurricane katrina and hadn't been driven since. It was some redneck's wife's car and they still had all the dealer records from 1995 in the glove box.

The undercarriage and bottom of the motor were caked in thick southern mud (the insides of the pulleys were jammed full of mud). The exhaust had sheared right before the muffler which was just dangling. The water pump was fucked / leaking so I couldn't drive it more than 20 minutes without having to give it water. The top was ripped and the interior was moldy, some of the grounds wires were fucked, etc. etc.. But I knew by the package it had that it had the LSD so I grabbed it for $2,200 and now it looks almost brand new.

At age 18 or 19, a few months after getting it, I gave it new belts, a water pump, alternator, cam seals, gaskets, ignition stuff, etc. and it's been running great in the 8+ years and 80+k miles since even though I beat the PISS out of it plus 30+ hours of WOT track time.

I love this car.

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>>17000321
As promised, a vid of me fucking up one of the easiest corners to slide even at low speed:

https://youtu.be/aY0JhNbXPY8

And one of me nailing the same corner at (slightly) higher speed:

https://youtu.be/L6OCg9UA8GI

I've learned to not try powersliding over ~60mph any more, you can't get a lot of slip angle out of a miata on stock suspension / steering and I'm on sub-$50 tires so there's not a lot of room for error.

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>>17000337

Is this your car? Did you intend to have the tow hooks painted? I mean, if you like that it's cool but personally I'd unbolt 'em and strip the paint off. Anyway, looks nice. Do those mirrors reduce visibility at all? One of my favorite things about my miata (and I have many) is that the stock mirrors give massive visibility.

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>>17000615
yes it's my car, no i didn't intend to have the hooks painted, but i've grown to like them. i know it's a simple process to repaint them, but still

the mirrors took a bit of getting used to from the big stock ones, but they have panoramic lenses, so there's actually a pretty good field of vision

would the timing being off effect the engine from starting? i think it might be fuel but the timing is also off

>>17000803
How off is the belt? Did the cams get rotated accidentally and aren't synced any more? Does it turn over at all?

>>17000818
its kinda off? i havent moved enough to see the bottom to see if its aligned but the left is off if the right is aligned. it does turn over but it just keeps cranking.

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Daily reminder that wrecker winches will bend your tow hooks and probably fuck everything else up

>>17000838
Well then yes to your original question. I'm assuming you know how an engine works - imagine on situation where the the intake valves are only open when the piston is on its exhaust or power strokes in stead of during the intake stroke - the cylinders wouldn't get enough air which would make combustion difficult.

>>17000875
Probably because they aren't tow hooks.

>tfw new tires finally came in today
>did an oil change while I had it on the lift and before installing the new tires
>took it for a trip around 610 to help break them in
Now I just need to get around to pulling the engine so I can replace a bunch of gaskets, do the timing belt, and replace the clutch and flywheel all in one go.

>>17001153
I would love to be able to do all that but I have an irrational fear of being under my car and have no access to a lift

>>17001162
>not working in a garage
Do you even /o/?

>>17000890
but would it not being timed right completely prevent it starting?

>>17001548
If it were off by like 20% or more possibly.

Absolutely. I have seen it severeal times and done it myself a few as well. If either cam gear is off more than 2-3 teeth it wil probablyl never start. Reset your timing using the guide on one of the miata forums. Once you set it right it will start. If that was the issue.

Whoops
>>17001812
meant for
>>17001548

>>16981235
Look on youtube. Couple vids out there on how to do it

>>17000337
Were you at Miatapalooza? I was looking for your car.

>>17002049
Not the person you replied to but Miatapalooza sounds extremely corny

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>>17002059
>~1K MIATAS & VENDORS IN SUNNY BEAUTIFUL FL SOUNDS CORNY

Which spark plugs should I get from O'Reilly's?

Also, does it really matter if you use a $7 plug over a $2.50 plug?

>>17002339
NGK V-Power BKR5E-11

This is OEM spec for the NA and NB, non-VVT.

how do you guys handle clear coat peeling? i have some around the trunk area and it pisses me off every time i look at it... i just bought the car thinking "oh lol i'll fix it later" but i'm not really sure what the best way to go about it is

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what do you call this aesthetic?

>>17003259
Disgusting.

>>17002190
Proving my point........

What kind of rims do you think would look good on a white NA Miata? That previous owner put on these hideous rims and I don't like them much, currently looking for new ones that are cheap-ish

>>17003781
www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Parts/Miata/Wheels-Tires.html?id=jbbvzidw

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>tfw cant find any NAs under 50k miles only NBs
I want my fresh miat!

>>17003259
modern french car

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>>17003781
These are my absolute favorite on white.

>looking for Miata's for my first car
>looking a little ways from where i live in case i find a really good deal
>mfw i find this
https://eugene.craigslist.org/cto/6084836622.html

I kind of want it.

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>>17004194
the "newest" NA models were sold over 20 years ago. And you think you're going to find one with 50k on the clock that costs less than, what, $8,000?

What other used car buying sites should I look at other than craigslist?

I am looking for a '90-95 that is unmodified and unmolested. Preferably with a soft top.

>>17004318
cl is your best bet, just expand your search radius. Use the within 200 miles of your zip filter, instead of by city.

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>>17004270
>low mileage riced out first gen Rx7

Stick to getting a stock Miata or better yet a Honda Civic.

trust me

>>17004306
I wouldn't be opposed to paying a lot for a mint NA considering they are still a viable car today

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>>17004270
What the fuck have they done to that poor rx7

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>>17004414
I felt the same when I was looking for mine a few weeks ago, I had a $7000 budget for the car itself, but that would only be reserved for a super pristine garage kept example with super low milage. The problem was those particular examples were all early 1.6 short nose crank models with crank windows, open diffs, etc. I wanted a factory LSD car that had less than 100k that had decent paint and wasn't beat, and the one I went with was a 94 M Edition with 90k miles, original owner, no mods but some expensive maintenance done including timing belt not long ago. That was $5000 and he was asking $5600. I think $5000 is what you need in your hand today to get a decent example.

>>17004270
>https://eugene.craigslist.org/cto/6084836622.html

I would buy the FUCK out of that, remove the spoiler, and have it painted for cheap by the local prison shop.

>>17004494
what is your disability anon

>A car that actually drives like a miata but with four seats?

Does it exist?

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>>17004859

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>>17004757
Besides having been on 4chan since 2007, nothing, the form just says to check a spot if you have one.

>>17004869
>rx7 drives like a miata
in what ways

>>17004893
Should'a check'd that box for dat retard parking, checkem

>>17004869
>four
>seats

>>17004306
Not that hard to find. You just have to wait for it. I shit you not, I saw a mint red NA being sold locally for $5700. It had 30k~ miles AND included the hard top.

>>17004859
GT86

>>17004347
I know the owner of that car

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Sup, br/o/s. I recently bought a nice NB and have some questions.

1) The hardtop does not leak at all, but every time it rains or I wash it, I find some water on the plastic threshold of the driver side door. Is that expected?

2) Compared to the Mazda 2/Demio from the same era (that might use the same transmission, judging by the identical gear ratios and the position of the reverse gear), the shifter is much stiffer. Granted, the lever is much shorter, but still, is that expected, or a sign that I should change the transmission oil or something?

3) Is there any maintenance that would be wise to do right away just in case?

>>17005706

1) That's fine / normal.

2) You may need a shifter rebuild kit and need to change the transmission fluid. I've had to change the shifter boots 2x in less than 100k miles.

3) Change differential fluid, water/coolant, and engine oil. Check the air filter. Make sure that the ball in the PCV valve isn't stuck. Check the tension of the throttle cable. Check break pad wear. Standard new used car stuff. Looks good, I have those same wheels on my NA.

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Miata is out of commission until the new alternator comes in so went riding today instead

>>17005764
Thanks very much man. I will look into it.

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>>16969634
parts from Good-Win came in today
wouldn't fit in miat so used the family xB
front and rear sway bars, their race exhaust, and springs for a friend's miata

>>16969634
What are my options for not wanting to instantly die in a rollover?

Are roll bars the go-to? They can be found for under $500 and still allow me to have the top down. Or are hardtops the only defense against death? They are ~1k but offer a lot of pros and a few cons.

Opinions? I've heard roll bars make you less safe in a crash? Good idea to put padding around just in case? I'm leaning towards roll bar because of price and ease of ordering.

>>17006431
1 - Most roll bars don't work (you may have already known this) and are there only for "style." There are, however, some that do work and look for SCCA-approved ones.

2 - Think about your chances of rolling over a miata - one of the lowest cars on the street. Yes, many ppl have rolled them driving like asshats into ditches and stuff but seriously consider your actual rollover risk.

3 - And yes, some rollbars are designed with wearing helmets in mind, and you could seriously injure your head/neck in an accident with one of those and no helmet.

>>17006431
A hardtop won't make a difference. They're just a fiberglass shell. They won't hold a 2300lb car.

>>17006935
Yeah no way i'm ordering a style bar. I've found ones that are SCCA approved, mostly hard dog since it's in my budget. I don't worry about flipping my miata on the street, but moreso in the mountains when cruising those narrow roads. I know rollbars aren't guaranteed safety, but I like the additional protection they provide.

>got the timing right
>car wont start
>no spark, fortunately isnt fuel bc i can smell it
is it just the ignition coil? the spark plugs and wires are brand new so i dont think its those.

>>17007241
A reasonable stance to take. I'm sure we've all seen enough miata rollover pics to be somewhat concerned about it.

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>>17007284
Did you unplug something like the cam angle sensor or another mpi harness plug?

>>17007284
double check your plug wires. are they in the right order?

>>17008384
i dont rightly know. ive got two things unplugged but nothing visible to plug them into.
>>17008397
made sure they were. they werent sparking at all when i tested them

>>17008479
is the distributor working properly? cap and rotor?

How much are Tribute washer nozzles from a dealership? Even if it's a little more I just don't want to wait for shipping.

>>17008493
i believe so? how would i check
for further explanation everything worked before i changed the head gasket, but i think my friends left some things unplugged or i didnt put it back together right and now ive got two extra bolts and it wont start. it skipped before we worked on it.

>>17007241
If you order a HDM2HCHT I'll trade you my HDM2HC plus a small amount of cash. SCCA won't let me run rallycross without a hard top and it won't fit over the regular M2HC, hence the version that specifically says Hard Top.

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>>16999301

>>17008633
I'm really new to shopping roll bars so you'll have to explain whatever the fuck is all those letters mean

>>17008716
I have a Hard Dog M2 Hard Core Double Diagonal but what I need is a Hard Dog M2 Hard Core Hard Top Double Diagonal.

>>17008618
Post some pics if you can. Two bolts could be very important and an engine bay shot will allow us to see if something obvious is unplugged

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>>17008729
heres the engine bay. took out the spark plug wires on purpose.

Help. I'm interested in an NB 04/05. I've looked through the trims and it appears that the mazdaspeed would be the best option cuz turbo. Is this true? Is it really worth spending an extra 4k on a good condition Mazdaspedd trim?

>>17009136
Double check coil pack plugs and cam angle sensor plugs are plugged in

>>17009186
anything else i should check after that?

>>17009272
I take it when you're checking for spark you're doing it on all four wires by putting a plug in the cable end and looking for the spark at the end of the plug, right?

>>17009275
yea. no spark from any of them.

>>17009293
It's got to be crank/cam angle related or the coil pack itself

>>17009315
any way to test those? id be ok with buying new ones but id rather not have to do it if i can prevent it

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Any of you guys using the energy suspension full bushing kit? How's it treated you in terms of squeaking? How often do you re-grease? Did you install Zerk fittings, and if so where did you install them?

Tire recommendations? Seattle boi.

I would like them to be
>good in dry
>good in rain
>don't care about snow
>gimme dat grip
>gimme dat long tire life
>comfort / reduced road noise is cool but it's a miat so eh
>do not plan on tracking / autocrossing, just dailying with spirited driving sometimes

I'd be willing to spend more than a couple hundred if it means I'm getting a quality tire.

I'll be supplementing any suggestions with my own research. Thanks guys.

>>17004259
Thank you Anon you just found me my new rims

>>17009881
Dunlop Direzza DZ102. Not as grippy as the the Z2 Star Specs obviously, but they are way way better in the rain. They are pretty good in the dry, certainly good enough for street driving. Plus, you can also get them reasonably cheap in 195/50/15

>>16995324
grats bruh
that grey color is extremely nice by the way

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>those CCP guys making the fastback are ramping up production
YES
>they're only doing it for the NA for the foreseeable future so they can meet demand
NO

>>17009881
I just installed a set of BF Goodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2s in 195/50R15 on Tuesday. They seem pretty good so far. The tread is wider than a Yokohama S.Drive in 205/50R15.

I'm going to accompany my friend to go see a 1990 NA tomorrow. Is the wobble in the short nose crank really a deal breaker? What else is a deal breaker when shopping for a 90s NA?