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First for 125cc enough cc

I got a bunch of MaxWrist stickers today. What should I do with them?

>>16955507
mate of mine in college had an aprilia RS125 and swore blind that it did a tonne

bikes are gay

Snow looks cool.
But I really need to buy a cover.

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Should I get this adaptive LED single headlight conversion for a '16 street triple R? It's included with the purchase or I could negotiate down and get the ugly stock units put back on.

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>>16955558
Forgot pic.
I should lay off the drink.

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>>16955558
ja

>>16955560

It does look sick, though it depends what you want. I'd go for it if I had one, a buddy has an RX and I just can't get over how ugly the front end is, which is a shame because the rest is beautiful.

>>16955507
T.Graduated licensing

>>16955528
My housemate used to own one as well. A tonne is definitely believable on an RS125.

i want to get a bike but i'm a giant pussy
how do i become not a giant pussy? my only friend with a bike has a nice ducati and obviously i'm not going to ask him to teach me on it
i just started learning to shift in a manual car as well so i'm not too familiar with shifting yet
is there any way for me to not be a giant pussy or am i just doomed
i also have bad vision and need to wear thick glasses
will helmets have enough room for me to wear them comfortable and not break
please respond

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>finally found the source of the slow oil leak that's been driving me insane for literal months
>it's just a leaky o-ring on the oil cooler hose assembly
>mfw

I feel like such a retard. I was checking gaskets, the seam of my fucking engine, everything except that. At least I've got the o-ring coming in now. After this, I just need to get new clutch plates and tires, and the bike will be pretty much 100% back to her former glory.

>>16955593

Start on something small and work your way up. What specifically about a bike scares you? Is it the speed? Balance? The technique itself?

>>16955593
MSF course

picking up my new bike tomorrow, but can't buy jacket and pants until friday since im broke.

limbs will be lost.~

>>16955598
shifting, the speed, retarded drivers, being able to die from the slightest mistake

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>>16955560
>>16955579

It's expensive as fuck but its worth it. I have it on my softail and I'm really digging the all black look.

>>16955605
shifting is piss easy once you get the hang of it. Really, I couldn't even drive stick until a year after I learned how to ride a motorcycle.

Speed is spoopy at first but it gets super fun once you get the hang of it, and cornering becomes even more fun.

Retarded drivers and increased danger is the price you gotta pay for being on a bike, but it's so worth it.

>>16955605
Most of those things are actually also true with cars but everyone lies to themselves.

>>16955593
i don't think i've ever had a helmet i couldn't slip glasses under

imo bikes are easier to learn clutch control on because hands typically have more refined motor skills

as far as riding like a bitch you might actually be better off for it.

>>16955605

You won't die from the slightest mistake, it's not THAT high stakes, especially on a smaller slower bike. Shifting is easy, if you can do it in a car you can do it on a bike, you don't have to think about which gear you're in specifically, it's just up and down.

Start on a small bike and speed won't be a problem.

>>16955593
>will helmets have enough room for me to wear them comfortable and not break
I do not wear glasses myself, but I suppose you should be able to wear them, plenty of people do, although if the are very thick or something they might get uncomfortable after a while

>>16955615
but i'm a competent driver, i'm not a competent motorcycle rider (obviously)
>>16955614
so shifting on a bike is easier than in a car?
maybe it's my area, but I feel like people are just so fucking retarded when it comes to driving death machines that i would just instantly regret my purchase on my first ride
>>16955618
when you say small do you mean size or power

>>16955621
I've noticed with sun glasses that if you've got wide frames then it's a bit of a squeeze to get them in your helmet but you barely notice after like a minute

>>16955631
>when you say small do you mean size or power

Power mainly, but size if you like. Low power bikes tend to be light so you don't have much to manage beneath you. Something like a CB125F is a perfect bike to try learning on.

>>16955528
i had an rs50 that could do 60mph, so 100 form the 125 is probable
when they're working that is

>>16955631
small as in both size and power

smaller size is easier to maneuver and brake, smaller power means less throttle response as you develop control over your right hand.

>>16955631
>so shifting on a bike is easier than in a car?
Yes. You just go up and down, and there's a much more tactile connection between the body and the machine, so getting a feel for when to shift up or down, and how to let out the clutch is far easier.

>maybe it's my area, but I feel like people are just so fucking retarded when it comes to driving death machines that i would just instantly regret my purchase on my first ride

I live in Houston TX. My first bike was a 1979 honda XL250s. If I could survive on such a little pile of slow-ass shit in one of the worst cities in the US to drive around in, I promise you that you will be okay.

>>16955631
You'll pick it up as you ride. Ask other riders for tips and such. Don't be scared and assume everyone is a risk to pull out in front of you or cut you off ect. And get your emergency stops down pat. You'll be fine, even if you do come off just get back on

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Should I replace this or take it somewhere to get it welded.
The thing is I don't know the area, and how to just walk up and ask for it to be welded.

>>16955560
Why not get a speed triple or a sprint and stop being such a pussy?

>>16955667

Find the price of a replacement and go from there. It might cost you just as much to get it repaired. You could probably find one on eBay for ~$20.

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>>16955667
Replace.

>wanting to have your grorious badge of suzuki honor all muddled up by weld spots

SHAMEFUR DISPRAY

>>16955676
$30 for chinese one on ebay.
None of the parts stores seem to have it, they everything but that.

>>16955679
The cheap replacement wouldn't have one at all tho.
To be honest I don't mind so much, really more of a honda fanboy. But I respect most bikes.

>>16955606
Seller is including it with the bike at a really good price, I'm getting a great deal with it included. Will definitely get it now.

>>16955682
dont get the chinese one. i tried that once to save money and i ended up having to buy a OEM one anyways cause the chinese one dumped oil.

>>16955668
t. cager

Striple is fine, you can break every US highway speed limit in first gear. No need for anything faster for a daily commute bike that will be fun on the weekend.

>>16955704

Make sure you get the original one made by JW speakers and not some chick copy that have a poor range of visibility.

Why do motogp bikes use a dry clutch?

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haha time for hills.

>>16955560
I would leave it, it arguably looks better and it'll definitely be brighter.

>>16955729
Fuck you for calling me a nerd!

>>16955709
Yeah. I don't really want the chinese one, but I can't seem to find oem.
There is some listings in the UK and Germany for double the price. Looks exactly the same though.

>>16955729
Is that a postie?

>>16955710
More is more! I rode the small triple but i fell in luvvv with the big one. The 800 in the tiger is a good compromise, but the supersport engine is too small for my taste. The 1050 platform is flawless, and with -1/+3 sprockets it ALMOST feels like a superbike.

>>16955729
what is that.

>>16955593
MSF course. You don't need coordination or great vision to ride, but you do need to be calm and thoughtful.

I rode for several years before bothering to buy a truck. (I wrench on cars but they bore me. At least trucks are useful...)

You'll be fine if you learn to ride with proper instruction and then ride as often as possible.

>>16955560
LED headlights are shit. Especially the chinkshit ones.

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>>16955743
A CT90, the posties older brother.

>>16955597
Everyone including mechanics gets bit by little shit sooner or later. Learn and move on.

Even the Space Shuttle engineers had O-ring issues.

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>>16955759
Noice, how is it? They seem like a ton of fun

>>16955667
Replace. I'll spare the tedious welding explanation but I have the gear and skill to weld it and I still wouldn't bother.

Ebay is a great place to buy parts.

>>16955682
No used ones?

>>16955766
p fun if you can deal with idiots riding your ass as you're doing 45 in a 35. I've actually managed to haul the parts bike on the back of it in two trips.

>>16955778
Nope. If there was I'd do it in a heartbeat, still more trustworthy than chinese.
I did seem to find a site that has them, but $140.
So it's that or the UK one on ebay for $80

>>16955775
Ok, I got different opinions yesterday, but didn't have a pic then.

Fuck me if this one fucking part is impossible to find through something reputable.

>>16955667
>hydraulic clutch
What is this godmachine?

>>16955667
Dude they're like 40$ buy one off eBay it'll be cheaper than a weld anyway

Is there a way of checking whether my brake bads should be replaced without removing the caliper and shit?

>>16955839
try looking at them

>>16955820
Bandit 1200, is this like not a normal thing.
I'm fairly new with working on bikes.

>>16955832
Yeah, but chinese...
Someone told me yesterday I could get someone to weld it for like $10-20

>>16955758
These are genuine US made JW Speaker, but are they actually bad or did you just read that on /o/?

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Thank you kektus for helping me pick this shit

>>16955854
Hydraulic clutches are usually only on larger bikes because the clutch has to be a lot heavier. Better in about every way though.

So I'm thinking about getting into bikes, and yes I read the sticky
Here's what I'm thinking: I like driving and I like cruising around for fun. the problem is that the lifestyle I plan on living will require me to have a truck which isn't that fun to drive. I wouldn't be able to afford a truck and a fun car but I could afford a bike. that way I could have fun driving the bike.
would it be reasonable to use a bike as a DD for a 20-30 minute drive from the countryside to a small city? I live in northwest washington so it rains a lot but I could take the truck on rainy days.

>>16955906
I haven't tried that specific headlight. Since it may or may not be designed specifically around the LED bulb for road use, it might be better. However my experience with LED headlights has been entirely negative.

>>16956071
Yeah, that's what I do but with a shitbox car instead.

https://cedarrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/6073069583.html
>sweating_man.webm

Also,
>ride to work when still dark and damp
>emerge from 5 hours in nether regions of bldg
>walk to little store nearby
>weather's beautiful
>get off work
>totally overcast
Thanks, Iowa.

>>16956038
Oh, ok.
Other than dirt bikes, I've never rode on anything smaller than a 954.
This would be the first bike I actually work on tho.

>>16956071
250 or 350 dual sport.

Possible bikes:
>Yamaha WR250
>Suzuki DR350 (older and harder to find, but tough as nails)
>Honda CRF250 (L or rally) <-- those are newer bikes
>Honda XL250s

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If I were to ride without one of these carb breather filters (the foam specifically) how long until my carb would be fucked

Pic related but not me

>>16956126
Even my dirt bikes don't have those. Aren't your hoses routed downward from the carb?

>>16956126
You want one to not get crap in your engine.

>>16956122
Dual sports cool sports. Honestly, the DR650, KLR650, and XR650 aren't bad starter bikes for you either, since it sounds like you'll be on the highway a bit. What type of bike interests you?

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>>16956090
At least be happy the snow is gone

>>16956135
Nah it sits under the seat, it's a DR650 thing I think

>>16956147
Yeah. I expect snow in May because lolmidwest, though.

>pic
>captions
I was having a good day. Now I'm mildly sad.

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>>16956142
DR650 is the best 650 single in this, or any universe

>>16956071
A bike's a bike, just get one light enough for you to pick up with throttle and steering you can actually control

Anyone here know if Gen 2 Bandit 600 links will fit a Gen 1 Suzuki Bandit 600 and lower the seat?

>>16955560
Don't do it, Street Triple lights look weird but it's part of the package.

>>16956165
Didn't mean to make you sad :c

>>16955794
If you clamp the cover snugly on a flat plate such as a ground surface and your weldor carefully cleans the cover with acetone (you can do that yourself but he'll likely do it again) he could TIG it if he's very experienced with casting repair.

Aluminum castings are prone to warpage and "hot shorting" (cracking when they cool) so it's a job for a skilled weldor with casting experience and it's still subject to fucking up.

Unless the weldor is your bro I don't see him doing it for less than a used cover, but he might.

>>16956175
Xr650r>dr650

>>16956175
>best
I do love it. I got to ride CC81PT's XR650 and it was pretty beast though.

>>16956187
My social life is pretty thin since moving here. I went to work on nights for over a year, so I really didn't spend much time trying to meet qt grills and motobros. No worries though; I got dbt and my old friends on Skype.

>>16955854
>Someone told me yesterday I could get someone to weld it for like $10-20

I'd be impressed if a good weldor would turn on the machine for that much. Bubba with a spool gun would wreck it.

>>16956199
This is the one time you can ever consider yourself as correct, kit kat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcUiSYLjVe4
>put down helmet visor
>crash motorcycle
I don't know much about motorcycles but if they're this inherently unstable and dangerous how do you guys not die en masse

>>16956204
Iowa seems boring give it some time.

>>16956083
>>16956122
>>16956179
hmm. these are all kinda dirtbike type things. I always liked cruisers more. would that not be a good choice? like a honda rebel 250?

>>16956193
>>16956207
Ok, yeah I guess I can see that now.

Do you think it would last a few months. Cause that's when I get back home. My dad was an airframe welder in the navy. He might do it for free. If he still has the equipment.

>>16956142
oh sorry should've put you in this
I always liked cruisers more never really liked how sport bikes or dirtbikes looked.
>>16956238

>>16955668
You have to be 18 to post here

>>16956238
If you're not going over about 55 a Rebel 250 will be fine. You will want more grunt before long though.

>>16956236
Des Moines is pretty decent. The hills are nice but there aren't any real twisties that I've found beyond a nice curvy road through a little nature preserve.

>>16956238
rebel 250 is fairly underpowered unless you're gonna be moving around at like 50mph max

>>16955631
I live in an area that has a 66% retiree rate, with drivers driving into buildings and flipping cars in grocery store parking lots. Along with the highest concentration of Jews in the entire planet second to Israel, and they're fucking insane drivers; and that being said, any person I know in my area who's been killed on a bike is due to speeding.

Overall if you crash, I can say most of the time it's avoidable by just giving a shit about your surroundings

>>16956235
I think the first guy is just retarded and squeezes the front brake maybe?

>>16956251
Try more rural areas there are plenty of twisties

>>16956235
Yea I tried figuring out what went wrong but you can't tell much, to crash that quickly he obviously did something VERY wrong like grabbing a handful of front brake

>>16956235
play it at 0.5 speed he pulls on the front brake with all 4 fingers and you can hear the tires squeal

when I make a turn am I automatically countersteering? Or is it something you need to consciously do on a motorcycle?

>>16956235
some of us actually git gud

>>16956258
>>16956251
ok. two people said the same thing so it's probably true. is there another bike of a similar style that is maybe a little more powerful? or would that be a good bike to learn on for awhile and then graduate to a better bike once I'm actually good. there's a few on craigslist for less than $3000 so they don't seem expensive

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>>16956295

>>16956273
When I say twisties I mean stuff like NM-130 and Sunspot Highway in New Mexico, and CO-82 in Colorado. Hah

>>16956301
he pulls on it when he brings it down, like 1-3 frames after this

Is there a guide to buying a used bike?

Never owned one before and the lease is up on my car next month, so I'm interested in looking around

Looking for 3k or less preferably

>>16956299
Honda Rebels (and nighthawks, their Standard-style sister bike) are THE beginner 250. They're so stupid simple and easy to ride they're near ubiquitous in MSF courses. It's a perfect learner bike and since you don't seem like a speed demon it might actually do you well. However, if you DO catch the need for speed, you'll start feeling pretty slow around 5-6 months in.

however CB/CMX 250's are all good learner bikes.

>>16956317
Yeah, but this is still a decent shot of what he was doing.
I'm too lazy to pin point it right.

>>16956235
>mfw the majority of those are euros on 125s
When will they learn forcing you to ride a small bike won't save you from being a shit rider?

>>16956235
>that retard that decides to ride into the gravel trap at Zolder for no reason and make a video bitching about it

>>16956348
More like South Americans.

>>16956301
Lol illegal windows

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>Trying to look up youtube reviews of sub 600cc bikes.
>Manjeet starts talking.
>Look up written reviews instead.

>>16956235
Honestly most of those crashes were water, ice, or retards being super unconfindent in turns

>>16956381
The supersports? They're all practically the same in terms of performance.

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ruck or die

>>16956379
It wasn't always, I upgraded my pc and the only thing left was the old psu and hdd.
It's so minuscule I haven't bothered fixing it.

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I'm looking at a couple of new bikes at around $5K. I like the size of the CBR500R but the RC390 seems like a great performer in its starter bike segment as well.

Which would you guys go for?

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Has anyone ever ridden a Janus? I think they are pretty as hell.

>>16956398
The RC390 is a Pajeet poseur bike.
>new FIM championship for A2 bikes
>nobody even entered a KTM

>>16956199
XRR is the trail bike not the dual sport

XRL is better offroad but DR has an edge on the pavement.

>>16956402
j-anus

Because they're garbage

>>16956398
I'd go for the 500f, literally the same bike as the 500R but exponentially more comfortable and fun to ride, and more utilitarian (more potential storage space) too

>>16956419
Right but I said 650 single, not 650 dual sport

>>16956266
Boca Raton?

>>16956436
mouth rat?

>>16956398
>great performer in the starter bike segment
This doesn't make sense to me. If you're buying a starter bike, then you should buy one that is good to start on. If you're buying a performance bike, you should go ahead and get one that's actually fast and performs well. An overpriced attempt at a performance starter bike is a clash that makes it bad for everything except a small niche market.

>>16956396
Word it's stored in the bios on your old mobo

>>16956332
It'd probably be good to start on something easy. are they fairly easy to maintain? I would like to learn basic maintenance on something easy to work with.
yeah, I'm not much of a speed demon. I've never even been pulled over while driving before.
if I do feel the need to go fast, can a cruiser match the performance of a sport bike? or at least can they be decently speedy? like I said earlier I'm not a fan of the style of sport bikes

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>>16956302
h-how do you expect me to complete with that?

>>16956427
>(more potential storage space)
Literally everything you could potentially attach a bag to is the same on both bikes. Bars are preference, there's a reason things like VFRs exist.

>>16956299
There's a Rebel 300 and Rebel 500 now but they're brand new for 2017.

>>16956436
You probably won't know it, but it's Toms River, it's next to the "jersey shore" but the Jew town is Lakewood, look it up it'll blow your mind. And the retiree town is brick, having like 8 retirement communities in the town

>>16956451
I own a nighthawk and it's piss easy to work on. In fact that was one of their selling points: ease of (owner) maintenance.

I'll let you in on a tip though, after about 30k miles/10 years, stuff starts to go. Nothing mechanical or too serious, but the little things like bearings, the rubber bits holding up the turn signals degrading, the chain, etc. Nothing you can't handle, I'd never touched a bike before working on mine and I'm still here.

The rebel is also an incredibly popular bike so parts and tutorials should be easy to come by.

>if I do feel the need to go fast, can a cruiser match the performance of a sport bike?
No, but bigger actual cruisers can still go pretty damn fast. My friend's honda shadow goes 70 in 2nd gear.
The Honda Rebel/Nighthawk will be topped out in 5th at 70.
I tried to catch up to some guys on vintage harleys once and they sped off into the sunset, I stood absolutely no chance.

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I only bought my bike a few months ago. I like it but I'm already considering selling it to get one in better overall condition. I think I could actually break even or even profit from this one and pick up another similar one this winter again.
I'll still have my dual sport. But then again I don't want to sell my street bike.
It's so hard to decide.

>>16956465
Oh true

Yeah down in South Florida is Boxa Raton. On Seinfeld they made fun of it calling it Boca del Vista instead, where their parents moved

Sooo many old Jews here

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>>16956398
>5K
>CBR500R
>RC390

>>16956235
dumb cager here, but I am fascinated by this stuff. What is the turnover rate of bikers?
I've watched hours and hours of this kinda footage and I just wonder how can people afford to keep riding trashing their bikes, or not get scared off after a near death accident?
Or do these events make up a small portion of drivers and most will never drive off the road for no apparent reason?

>>16956513
Trust me I know the stories of the waiting room that is boca. All old ass fuckers

>>16956484
great. you guys have been pretty helpful.
the only biker I know was my high school band teacher. he's a huge Harley guy. he made the whole band salute every time we passed a harley dealer. he had some kind of grand tour edition.

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>>16956398
anime girls learner bike is superior to both

>>16956453
Just what I was spoiled with for the few months I got to ride before I moved. I picked up my DR in August 2015, and I moved to IA in November. I did get to sling my POS Miata around up there quite a bit, though.

>>16956532
There are two kinds of riders, those who have crashed and those who will. Ivw met a lot of riders in my life and the fast majority have had a serious accident at some point. To quote a common phrase it's what separates the men from the boys, some people ride around thinking nothing bad will ever happen, then when it does they have to decide if they want to continue or not, if it's worth the risk.

>>16956532
everyone dumps their bike at least once in their life, unless they're insanely lucky. The only difference is how badly you drop it and if you learn from your mistakes. Most of /dbt/ is lucky enough to be autistic about being ATGATT and starting out on slower, smaller bikes, so when we crash it's typically not that bad (barring that one gs500 anon that almost got fucking pancacked under a semi because he couldn't turn for shit)

I've dumped my bike a few times. They've all been lower speed crashes, and I was wearing my gear every time, so I've been able to walk away with nothing more than a bruised ego and lessons to be learned. It's definitely more dangerous to ride a bike than it is to drive a car, but it's not as dangerous as people like to make it seem.

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>>16956532
I've been more fucked in a car than I've ever been on a bike.
Worst crashes I've had were on dirt bikes at low speed, maybe tiny bit of road rash. Haven't dropped a street bike yet.

Pic is one of the times I flipped a car.

>>16956613
>>16956621
so you would say it is just as much a product of either too much bike, and/or the fact they were going beyond their limits due to peer pressure, or video taping themselves?

>>16956664
Yes. When people try to show off, that's when dumb shit typically happens. Throw in upwards of 30-45 horsepower on the weaker end of the spectrum and you've got a good recipe for pain. Superbikes can put out upwards of 190hp

what'd be the most economical roughly liter sized motorcycle engine to slap into a sandrail?

>>16956660
>one of the times
>crashing this much
You're probably getting a little too hektik or need to pay more attention to the road.

>>16956692
>economical
>liter sized
a cb1300 or xjr1300 engine maybe?

>>16956532
The thing is at least from a North American perspective people tend to not approach motorcycling as a life skill like driving but as a way to fuck around and show off (which is part of why there's so many -fucking- cameras). So unfortunately yes the turnover is high in the same way as retards that think they're drifters, who also have an abnormally high rate of destroying 240SXs and Miatas.

>>16956692
Buy any crashed literbike on the cheap and salvage the engine from it.

>>16956702
>240SXs and Miatas
And Mustangs, SC400s, and any 90s JDM that hasn't already been trashed.

>>16956664
Being stupid on a motorcycle is part of the reason I suspect that death statistics are so inflated. Don't get me wrong: you can get wrapped up in a freak accident just as easily (DUI, trucker blows tire on highway, random debris hits you, etc...) but that isn't what makes up the statistics. It's people consuming drugs or alcohol (40% of motorcycle fatalities involve alcohol) or simply being stupid. Believe it or not, it's actually not very hard to go 180mph on the highway swerving in and out of traffic. If you're a confident rider, you're going to be fine. Shit starts to go sour when you involve other riders since these are variables you can't control or predict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3nyrAOQ1pU

>>16956692
Most people putting bike engines in cars and stuff use the big touring i4s, Busa, ZX-14, FJR1300

>>16956699
Cheapest I mean, I'd like to keep it light and the integrated transmission and simplicity of running a chain to the rear wheels are pretty attractive for building an oversized go-kart.

>>16956703
that's the plan, unfortunately that's the first thing that's usually sold off.

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>>16956532
Turnover rate seems to be pretty high. Even just talking to people in their twenties, it seems like most men claim to have owned a bike at one point in their life and given up for one reason or another (often a crash).
One of the biggest problems is people never fucking learn to ride so they run straight off the road when they encounter an unexpected turn. Next biggest issue I see is people trying to show off or get hektik in all the wrong places.
If you practice safe riding and don't go full retard, you can probably avoid the vast majority of crashes, even those which would be caused by other drivers.

>>16955760
>Even the Space Shuttle engineers had O-ring issues.
And that didnt work out really well for them lmao

>>16956741
It's hard man. I am a pretty good rider but I still have a hard time defeating my panic instincts when something goes wrong mid turn. I noticed some truck was edging over the double yellow line during my turn and it threw me completely off even though I was riding the inside of the lane and not even close to him.

Just shit like that.

>>16956711
the other thing about other riders is that egos come into play as well as not wanting to literally be left behind which can end up with people pushing further than they should

>>16956711
>(40% of motorcycle fatalities involve alcohol)
Citation needed please.
In my country 38% of fatal crashes are caused by a car, 22% are caused by the rider and 40% only involve the bike (so animals on the road, bad road conditions etc)
From what i can tell alcohol/drug related deaths on motorcycles are actually really rare.

>>16956760
It's a mental fight, but you just gotta train yourself. Practice emergency braking, cornering, etc etc

after a while, if you get into some shit your body will just go into auto pilot and you'll be okay

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Is Honda cb300f a good beginner bike?

>>16956777
It is if you live in singapore or something.

>>16956762
https://ntl.bts.gov/lib/35000/35900/35991/013695.pdf

pg 130

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>>16956760
That gets me too. I'll usually let off the gas or even brake a little and stand up a bit in a situation like that just to make a bit more room, which is fine because on the street I don't think I'm ever near my actual traction limit. As long as you don't grab a fistfull of brake or fixate on the truck and run into it or off the road I think you're all good.


When I'm around traffic I don't even think of getting hektik. I'll avoid sitting in peoples blind spots, stay to the edge of my lane to achieve better visibility, and take evasive action to avoid someone who even looks like they're about to do something sketchy.

>>16956741
>>16956711
>>16956702
I only ask as I experienced my first "donorcycle" accident as an EMT, and all the guy could tell me when I asked what happen was "I don't know what I was thinking", like the outcome of him removing his knee cap because he didn't have gear on was never a possibility.

I'm guilty of doing dumb shit while driving for the sake of "fun", but there's a clear distinct line (at least I think) where recklessness turns into dangerousness, and it honestly did not seem like this guy had that mental line

What kind of motorcycle should I get?-I am 5'5" female, 130 pounds, never rode before but I want a bike that isn't a "beginner" bike-I want to have it a couple years and not grow out of it. Interested in cruising bikes

>>16956783
It is shit like what jobs people who ride motorcycles work?

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>>16956793
>admitting to being a female on 4chan

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>>16956793
ct90 obviously

>>16956793
see >>16956572

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>>16956793
>I'm a beginner and have never ridden but I don't want a bike better suited to beginners who have never ridden

people like you are the reason normies hate motorcyclists

>>16956790
It's pretty easy to get caught up in the moment and just do something stupid without a second thought, even if you ride safely most of the time. This seems to be especially true on fast bikes. It's so easy to go faster that sometimes you might find yourself doing it without realizing it.

>>16956793
look into a kawasaki vulcan, they have mutliple setups for short/tall riders

>>16956760
The thing is people tend to totally abandon the turn at the slightest provocation when in reality unless you are in the completely wrong part of the road or have fucked it beyond all hope you can generally afford to stand the bike up, slow down, then make a tighter turn.

>>16956762
40% of single rider crashes, as I recall.

>>16956797
look at the page numbers printed on the bottom of pages. not the actual pdf page.

the thing about your original post though >>16956762 is that it implies a fatal crash by a car or a crash caused by the rider can't involve alcohol.

the only thing the statistics really report on is that the fatalities involved alcohol, it doesn't speak to how they actually died

>>16956790
Ever heard someone say "dress for the ride, not the slide"? The idea that something bad could happen is so far from their minds it's not even a possibility. Yes people are that stupid, the only reason this isn't an issue with cars is because the airbags and seat belts aren't optional.

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>>16956793
you're gonna get a bunch of dipshit answers

a honda shadow 600 would do you well.
Or, if you can afford to buy new, Honda is coming out with a 500cc rebel bobber this year and it actually looks pretty swell.

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>>16956790
It's because you think differently on and off the motorcycle, they give you so much love and feedback you swear you can do anything.

Off motorcycle:

>Nah that's silly I'd never do that

On motorcycle:
>Alright I'm gonna turn around and hit that blind crest about 20 km/hr faster because I know I'm nearly airborne.
>if I pin it I'll make that gap easy
>I know I said no wheelies on public roads but this bridge is totally empty and what the chances of a police officer being at the other end anyway (this one happened to me)

>>16956810
Yeah but like half of single rider crashes are from road conditions, then like another 20% are from hitting animals on the road, its not even 5% of people that die due to being spastic on a bike, who even does that?

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>>16956828
When you do standup wheelies, do you stand up before popping the clutch or do you get the front wheel up then stand up after?

>>16956834
>Yeah but like half of single rider crashes are from road conditions, then like another 20% are from hitting animals on the road
lol no

>>16956888
>checked
I stand in 4th gear, give the bars a little tug and open throttle. no clutch needed m80

>>16956899
in my country yes, we could just agree that people from california are morons i guess.

>>16956888
you stand up, compress the front forks then on the rebound you give it some juice, doesnt really matter what gear you are in the front end should come up if you did it properly.

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>>16956907
>4th gear
>no clutch
But I don't have a liter

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>>16956888
I stand up then pop, I also have one foot on the rear pegs, you see racers just power the thing up then stand up on the front pegs but I don't have that sort of go and if you're standing up before you can really preload the suspension, drive down on that back foot and pop it up with nearly no engine at all.

>>16956807
>>16956828
>>16956814
I guess my next question if, you've crashed, are you ok with people approaching you, or would you rather lick your own wounds and be left alone?

>>16956928
Depends on how bad I crashed. If I just drop the thing at like 20mph and the bike still runs, I'll just wave anyone off and pick up my bike and zip away in shame

>>16956919
>stand up wheelies on a road bike without a hand rear brake
Kinda asking to total your bike, can't exactly cover the rear brake while standing on the pillion pegs.

>>16956928
Probably best if someone stops to check on a crashed rider just in case, but if I tell you I'm okay then you don't need to stay.

>>16956695
Meh. I pay attention to the road, I just take vehicle past they're breaking point.
But I enjoy doing this. I have no problems with crashing. It's even a little fun most of the time.
Actually, after a crash I just wanna get back to it and see if I can do it again without messing up, see if I can get better. Every crash is just another opportunity to learn. Every broken bone is another story to be told.
Life is a series of accidents, you only enjoy life by enjoying the mishaps.

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>>16956944
I never take my foot away from the rear brake while wheelieing. It's possible to do it with your feet on the normal pegs, or staggered with the right foot over the brake and the left foot on the passenger peg.

>>16956919
you don't need anything close to that
>>16956917
>compress the front forks
pulling on the bars is enough. Timing the compression with the throttle and clutch is too much for a noob

>>16956928
I prefer if people stop, if it's minor I can just wave them off, but if it's serious they can save your life.

>>16956953
Turn in your license now.

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>>16956928
I don't mind, crashing is an ego check for a lot of people but I don't think an ego is a useful thing as a motorcyclist and crashing just is what it is.

You never feel smart when you come off, it's always when you did something stupid, like went out for that last session of the day even though it had started drizzling a bit because you figured it was just psychological rain and wouldn't matter that much. So when people crash they tend to be quite mad at themselves and they feel they don't deserve sympathy, just ask if they've got any injuries and need a hand moving the bike. Some people are gonna get a serious wounded pride from crashing, other people pop up laughing.

I go into an accepting, morose state.

>>16956964
I'm not exactly a noob. I know how to time rebound with throttle. Just wondering how he sets up his stance on a bike with a different kind of ergonomics.

>>16956970
Wouldn't stop me.
And it's not like I ever endanger other people.
Well, there was one time, but he knew the risks and consented.

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>>16956978
Alpinestars are pretty tuff

>>16956962
>all balls sticker

mah nigga

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>coming up to crowded red light
>filtering through traffic, speed up to make it past cars before they start to go faster
>burst past cars into group of ~10 other motorcyclists
>last guy turns around and gives me a thumbs up, few other riders are doing wheelies
>ride with them for a bit, me and other guy doing speed limit to give plenty of space for the stunters
>cop car in the distance behind us, guy gives me a nod, i give a thumbs up they take speed off
>get pulled over after cop car makes it past traffic
>play dumb, deny being part of the group
>cop is pissed, yelling at me that he can imbound my bike, i stay quiet and say nothing
>lets me go after a while with a warning since i did nothing illegal
>tfw was a good samaritan to fellow bike rascals

cop was mad as fuck that he caught the bait bike instead of the guys committing felonies
anybody else have similar stories, or tales of running into a different group of bikers?

>>16957014
turns out stickers don't hold very well on plastic gas tanks because the gas fumes penetrate the plastic

>>16955593
1. take the MSF. i too am a gigantic pussy and it really does help. protip: ride the fuck out of clutch on the msf bikes since it doesnt matter and you are learning
2. i also wear glasses. just get a helmet that has a movable visor and it's no problem to put them on after you get the helmet situated

>>16957021
No story, but a thanks from me anon.
I'm usually the guy that takes off, while a friend or random rider sits back cause they were doing nothing wrong.
I really appreciate you people.

>>16957028
That's why you put em on your helmet or fenders brah

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going through some old webbums.

ahh, such fond memories

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>>16957125

>>16957125
>bars instantly turn full lock as you wash out when you hit the grass
nice.
Did it damage anything tho?

>>16956664
Peer pressure or ego is what ruins most. I tried to be cool once and do a burnout take off, ended up not realizing there was road colored gravel 5 feet in front of me, fish tailed hard but i caught myself. Don't do that anymore.

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>>16957144
nope, thank god

>>16957144
>wash out when you hit the grass
the meme lives on

>>16956941
>>16956947
>>16956965
>>16956978
I guess my last question how do you deal/cope with trashing your bike? I see all these minor accidents where you might walk away with a bruised ego, but your clutch is torn off, bars are bent, fuel is leaking, and severe body damage, that all must be pushing close to 1000USD, that more than likely insurance isn't covering

How are these guys not in tears that their pride and joy while not being trashed, is badly wounded?

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>>16957161

>>16957163
I don't even know why but I said that once then some anon just repeated it 50 times in a row and it became a meme for a day

>>16955924
i heard you summoned me a few days ago

>>16957174
it was a different time anon, a time of lighthearted autism

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>>16957169
it's not fun. this got me a $2400 check from the insurance though. fixed the critical damage for like $200, got new exhaust and seat, bark busters, front tire (front was balding anyway), spent about 1200 total.

as for the crash itself, i was pissed. I was only going 50 or so around a corner...and just missed. like, i didn't turn. i can't find the webm for some reason, but it's really crazy to watch.

>>16957169
bars are fairly cheap, clutch controls are cheap, fairings (i assume what you mean by body damage) are replaceable and aren't 100% required for your bike to function.

Trust me, if my bike got truly trashed, I'd be devastated. But sliding it across the pavement isn't the end of the world- half the fun of owning a bike is working on it and tuning it. Plus, at the end of the day a bike is just a thing. Things can be replaced- my life cannot. I'll be sad that I lost my bike, but happy that I didn't die outright.

If I try a liter bike will I be forced to buy one?

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>>16957169
The only bike I've ever crashed is the godmachine which is built like a tank so the only damage ever is broken turn signals.
But used bikes are easily affordable, so I could just buy another if I were to total one of mine. Yeah it sucks to lose "lots" of money from doing something stupid and crashing, but it's not the end of the world. My main fear from riding/crashing is some life-changing injury like paralyzing myself

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>>16957174
wow, i forgot all about that.

man, i really need to make more webms from the Vstrom, most of these were from when i first got the gopro and went nuts with making boring shit on the Marauder

>>16957218
last time I let a potential buyer test ride my liter I held him at gunpoint until he bought it

>>16957169
Honestly when I dumped I looked at it, said I could replace that cheap enough, and didn't tell insurance for premiums sake. Still have a scratched tail light to this day, finally replacing it after almost 13 months with it

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>ayyyy

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thanks, whoever made this

>>16956793
gs500

>>16957255
Wow that's a fuckin ugly car, I'd rather drive a PT cruiser

>>16957213
webm of you crashing pls

>>16957281
don't care, i wish the view was a little higher, the driver had YUUUUUGE titties

>>16957282
i'm looking, i have no idea what happened to it

>>16957293
Well, she's fat so....

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>The start of 2017 spring street cleaning is planned for Tuesday April 18
>was April 9th six nice days ago
All of my fucking rage. This is the last fucking winter I spend in this shithole joke of a city.

>>16957322
Looks safe enough to me

>>16956235
ok so why do these guys repeated eat shit, but then preface after saying they're ok with "we need to get out of here before the cops show up"?

do they not want to go to the hospital or something?

>>16957392
It means having a big line of gravel cutting across traffic circles and intersections and gravel all across the road in every residential area, among other things. Rideable but extremely limiting to fun.

Also everything on the lower part of the bike gets unspeakably dirty instantly of course.

>>16957422
Riding without license and/or insurance.

>>16957438
>Riding without license and/or insurance.

ah that makes sense, dumb as fuck, but makes sense

>>16957422
They don't want the accident reported because
>Anything on their driving record will make their insurance rates go up
>They were doing something illegal at the time of the crash and don't want to get in trouble for that
>they are riding illegally

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>>16957448
>>16957480
This.

Luckily when my brother crashed, the cops did show up, but it never got reported to the insurance. (red one in pic)

$700 later and some nigger rigging it was mostly ok. And that was on the cheap scale.
Even now, the latch for the back seat is a bungee cord hook.

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Figured I'd go south of the city to see some of the flooding, half the roads were flooded or almost flooded with just enough dry space for a bike to get through. Wish that I had been recording, probably would've made for a neat WebM or two.

>>16957586
Where is this? The water level in the Des Moines River is pretty high, too.

>>16957688
About 5 minutes south of Winnipeg city limits, that's the red river in the picture.

what are the rules and etiquette on filtering?
there is nothing legally wrong with it, but is there something morally objectionable to cutting in front of someone who was in fact in front of you?

>>16957857
>is there something morally objectionable to cutting in front of someone who was in fact in front of you?
Only Americans think this stupid shit.
It is a road not a line at the supermarket.

>>16957857
Depends on country/state

Here it's just don't do it too quick, as that will be dangerous and only at <50km/h

>>16957880
isn't that splitting?

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I got to ride one of these the other day. It handles like a fucking dream.

>>16957957
Doesn't help its fuckin looks

>>16957889
We are only allowed to split here. There are also barely any places where you would be filtering, splitting is enough.

We don't even have a word for it and it's technically not legal, but it's not illegal either. It's literally the cops decision to fine you or not.

>>16956793
Scout 60

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>be in class
>craigslist
>be at home
>craigslist
>be studying
>craigslist on side
>be out with gf
>craigslist
Does this go away /dbt/? I regret selling my bike now the seasons here.

>>16958003
>Does this go away /dbt/?
when you finally buy one

>>16958003
>Posting the same shit
>Every day

Buy another bike anon, jeez. Just get a loan if u can't afford it

>>16958014
Can't help it. Nothing else really to do except complain. And it's about every other day-2 days thank you very much.
>loans
Nope.

>>16957957
If I owned it, I'd have to wear a Robocop outfit every time I rode it

>>16957880

>km/h

What country are you in then?
Here in funland germany it's not allowed but tolerated to some extend (like going 30 through a traffic jam in order to not get a heat stroke in full gear)

>>16958003
Ill loan you my 3rd bike if u let me fuckt ur boipucci for as long as you want

>>16958022
>Nope
Aren't u in the military? You have a steady income so I would think ~100/month would be worth it for a new bike...

>>16958037
I'm pretty fat though. Sure you wanna venture to those depths?

>>16958003

be glad you sold it. dat swing arm is ugly as fuck

>>16958043
Used to be, but in college now. My income is mostly depleted to keep myself and gf from living with her mother or being homeless. Funds from sold bike goes into my car repairs/maintenance and food/rent.

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>>16958044
Post boipucci so i can decide

>>16958051
>Car
Fucking idiot

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>>16958053
It rains 4 days out of 7 during the spring, and at least twice a week in the summer. Don't you call me an idiot. Plus, it's 8 grand of asset that doesn't have a loan on it, called smart.
>>16958052
My asshole will remain in mine and my gf's eyes only.

>>16957957
It's unique looking fo sho. Seem one in person. Very UFO like.
More of a eye of the beholder thing like the victory vision.

>>16958069
Dude just sell the car and buy another $3k bike + waterproof gear, boom $4g in your pocket and no more car maintenance

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anyone using pilot power 3's?

>>16958078
plenty of people, but you just posted a 2ct

>>16958073
Thought about it, desu. Get a shit car, and use the rest for a bike that isn't bottom of the CL list.

>>16958078
>those chicken strips
You could feed half Africa with them.

>>16958086
>Shit car
You don't even need that anon...

>>16958069
Shoulda stayed a welfare queen, faggot

>>16958091
Sure those aren't manufactured look of a fresh tire? Doesn't have that ragged edge of chicken strip tire.

>>16958098
This, it's dual compound

>>16958078
tfw your shitbike somehow came with pilot power 1s

>>16958098
>unmolested nubs on the middle of the tire
Gee you fucking think so

>>16958097
Did my time, anon. Bullshit is done. Not only did you have to attend extra briefings regularly while everybody got to go home, a safety class was mandatory like 2 weekends every so often if you had a bike. Which was pretty much the MSF over again, fuck your weekends.
>>16958094
I'm going to need something to haul groceries and shit back home, wish it were that easy though. Can't fit a few weeks worth in a backpack. Don't feel like waiting till 6pm for the gf to come home so we can go to lowes or kroger to get something for a project anyways.

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>>16958078
Yes.
>>16958082
No he didn't...?

>>16958091
Nobike detected

>>16958126
>He has another car
Holy shit anon how are you justifying this mentally?
Just sell car and commute on a bike, 80% of us do it

>>16958149
Why not have multiple cars, trucks, and motorcycles?

>>16958091

>busrider detected

ever see a dual compound tire up close?

>>16958149
First, I'm pretty sure only 10% of you posting actually have a bike.
Second, out of that 10%, I'm confident 9% of you own a car or 2.
I want my own car, why would I allow the gf to own the only car in this relationship? In her name especially? I want to do my own shit, anon, at any time of the day. I tend to haul shit around a lot, can't do it on just a bike.

>>16958168
I own 3 bikes and a ute for taking them places.

>>16958176
If I had a truck or ute, I'd get me a cheap dirt bike. Sucks living in a city.

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>>16957968
>>16958025
>>16958070
The CTX is gorgeous in person. You should test ride on if you ever get the chance, it is too comfy.

>>16958181
>cheap dirt bike
They don't exist and the ones that do tend to cost more than double what they are worth in maintenance.

>>16958189
Kinda wrong.
I bought an XR600 for $500 (plus another $200 to make it street legal), and the only maintenance I had to do was the basic shit.
Although I did go through 3 voltage regulators.

>>16958185
I've only seen two in person. One in that ugly grey/blue color at the dealership and the other in black with LED's all over it. Super quiet sounding.
Would love to take one on a road trip to see how it feels

>>16958189
There's a few good ones depending on where you live. I live in KY, so there's several good dirt bikes for cheap cheap, and a bunch of pit bikes for absolute dirt cheap. For some reason, a lot of TTR's and there used to be a lot of cheap KLR's before everyone bought them last year. There's a DR200, 400SE and sometimes a 650 that pops up for fairly cheap prices (1500-2.5k for older versions, with the most expensive being 4.5 for new 650's)

>>16958149
>80% of us
Like who?
>>16958181
I'd love to have a truck and a dirtbike but there's nowhere I'm allowed to ride except on some eventdays on closed dirt-tracks
>>16958168
Nothing wrong with prioritizing a car over a bike, it's a hobby

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>>16955492
I magine him getting ambushed in the showers by really strong wild black men while he tries to fight them but eventualy cant win, then gets on his knees and starts servicing those bbc's left to right preparing his boipucci for the superior bbc while he screams in extasy and the black men cheer about their new conquest.

Also post aesthetic bike related pics pls.

>>16958185
I've seen them in person, they look the same as they do in pictures.

fuckin ugly

>>16958213
>it's a hobby
Exactly this.
If you only have a bike you're either in poverty or fucking retarted. Most likely both

>>16958198
Just a top end rebuild for that bike is near $400, never mind a bottom end because you have to buy all the parts to do that one separately.
Probably looking at a $2000+ full engine rebuild when it does need doing.

>>16958213
>no where I'm allowed to ride it
I feel you on that. Nothing but fenced off private property and farms in KY. You can go WAY the fuck out in the 'boones' but it's so full of cliffs and mountains you really can't do anything legit out there. A few open trails but nothing like Utah trip anon (I think Braid?) that posts here does, or CA cunts.

>>16958222
>Braid
kek, Baird*

>>16958220
Or in the luxury position to not need to own a car.
Owning even a small car (like an aygo) is way more expensive than most bikes, why pay that much if you don't even use it?

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Who /uniquebikes/ here?

My dream is to own a stable of machines that were once hugely popular (or not at all) but were unique in design, aesthetic or mechanical.

Gilera CX125, Ducati Paso, Katana 250 (pic related), Bimota V-Due.

Post your best oddities, /dbt/, and gimme some history.

Katana 250 was a gamble, appearing 10 years after the original Katana in a bid to conquer the new small displacement market in Japan, as 750cc upper limits meant the original Katana was off-limits despite being so lusted after. It sold amazingly, obviously.

>>16958237
An old patrol Ural without the sidecar.

>>16958213
The only reason I still have a car is because of the 4' of snow per year.
>but I can't carry 4 months of groceries for when the zombie apocalypse comes like an SUV fuck how will I live better constantly cry about not having a bike on 4chan

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The gods are really tempting me. I bet I can jew him down to 2k.

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>>16958237
I don't own anything odd, but I always found these to be curiously hidious

>>16958241
>Zombie apocalipse
Never going to happen, corpse completely decompose in less than 4 weeks. In like 2 weeks its almost gone.

>>16958250
I hear good things about these.
Great on road trips

>>16958220
t. can't even spell retarded

lmao neck urself pal

>>16958228
>car is more expensive
What, how cheap is your bike then? My '06 fz6 is more expensive to run than my '11 econobox
>higher tax
>higher insurance
>more maintenance
>higher fuel consumption (could be lowered to equal but eh)

>>16958272
Hit a nerve huh friendo?

>>16958246
>200cc
Ayy lmao!!

>>16958283
Honestly, that's all I need in Lex. lol I'm never going to find an SV650n or other 600cc+ for 2k like I did last time.

>>16958282
I'm not your friendo

>>16958298
Ok poverty kiddo

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>>16958246
>yfw I got my DR650 for 1650 with new tires

>>16958003
same here, do you use parameters or look at all the bikes?

>>16958315
Not him, but the first thing I do is put in -harley because Jesus Christ they infest the Midwest.

>>16958277
My bike
>€120/y road tax
>€190/y insurance

A 2010 Toyota Aygo with a 1.0L petrol engine
>€300/y road tax
>€480/y insurance

Maybe slightly better mileage, maintenance more expensive due to mandatory inspections.

>>16958154
Idk. I have 3 bikes, a scooter and a car.

>>16958091
Not the smartest, are you?

It's a brand new tyre, and that's the dual compounds showing.

Stick to your 50cc m8