W30 Mr2 Vs NB miata

>>16939644
W30 will be cheaper to buy, relative to condition
Miata will be easier to work on, and will have better aftermarket

>>16939644
Miata allows you to fit more stuff in it.
ZZW30 handles better.
miata has more aftermarket
ZZW30 has only-the-stuff-you-need aftermarket.

I went and chose zzw30 because mr2 owners are top tier bros and because its a goddamn midship.

>>16939644
>coupes
>soft top convertibles
i dont think you know what that word means.

>>16939663
storage space isnt really a huge concern seeing as I'm just looking for a fun run around car.

love the idea of mid-engine though, unfortunate the aw11 is the definitively better looking mr2

>>16939673
fuck you nigger, you know what i mean.

***Roadster
^happy now?

the term coupe has been entirely butchered thanks to mercedes anyway

>>16939679
it's also the most pure, and the most thrashed, and the oldest, and the most likely to be rusted out

mixed bag

>>16939698
pretty much my exact experience looking at them on craigslist. hard to find a sorted one

same can be said for the w30 desu

>>16939679
eh I was like you got into mr2 series because of aw11, realized they're rusted out and trashed and only use they have is a base for race car, then fell in love with sw20 after I drove one but now I'm getting zzw30 because i intend to get into legal racing and all the tracks here are tight and twisty as fuck.

ZZW30 is the lightest, most focused and best handling of all MR2's. You do need some chassis reinforcement. Hard top helps

If you wanna turn it into a performance machine, they really have almost no weight you can remove without compromizing its ability to daily.

Sure zzw30 is worst looking of the series but it is miata NA tier and girls fucking love it.

I'd say go for mr2 if you like mid egnine because there is no competitor for mr2 that does the same but better.

>>16939706
i made a huge mistake when i bought my SW20 by buying sight unseen, so don't be a retard like me. due diligence is absolutely required before you get into a niche car like this. be patient and don't fall in love with an idea. gl anon

>>16939719
I bought an zzw30 completely blind
dealer said it worked so we.

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>>16939644
>which is the better buy?
Fiero

>>16939734
daily reminder fiero was kill sicne GM is a shit company

>>16939734
>what is "i have literally been set ablaze for my poor choices"

>>16939734
heres another (You)

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>>16939756
ok
>>16939737
Fiero was killed to protect the Corvette
>>16939742
Fires only affected early build 1984 4 cylinders and was fixed in a recall.

>>16939710
Yeh the lightness is really the big draw for me. Its gonna be my second car after the volvo i owned in highschool so i want something small and light to get a better understanding of performance driving. hopefully get into track driving at some point to with it

for cars under $5000 zzw30 seems like a good bet

>>16939644
W30fag here. It's a pain in the ass for anything practical. Would never have gotten it to be my only car as you can't even get a case of beer in the storage compartment. Handles okay, but it's definitely a toy sports car. I didn't feel that way until I got an AP2. The W30 needs significant chassis bracing before it's in the same area code as something like an S2000 when it comes to handling. Cockpit is surprisingly roomy. Feels bigger inside than my AP2. The aftermarket is surprisingly good and still pretty active. We're quickly approaching the day when a K20 is drop in. Monkeywrench racing is a godsend.

People call it ugly on /o/ all the time, but I'm actually surprised by the number of people that compliment it or ask what it is irl. They weren't very popular to begin with so there really aren't that many still driving around anymore.

>>16939788
in regards to the structural rigidity, how bad we talkin' here?

what level of bracing is necessary to make it handle?

>>16939644
the Z3 BMW.

>>16939644
Neither of those is a coupe. Go to sleep and try again after you get out of freshmen english tomorrow.

>>16939768
based fiero god

>>16939812
you know, you're right...

gotta be well rested for the catcher in the rye quiz

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>>16939734
>tfw a bunch of seemingly decent fieros popped up on craigslist but I already spent my money on a foxbody mustang

feelsbadman

>>16939805
Spyderchat is a good resource. First recommendation would be what they call a Midship Member Brace. Honestly the S2000 was probably a pretty shitty basis for comparison because the chassis is so good in that car, but that and an Elise are my only real sports car comparisons. It's not bad by any means, but to me it doesn't feel as hooked up as an S2000. Guys are out there running these cars competitively in national AutoX events against Miatas and S2000s without bracing so it's a good car v. good driver deal. It feels like a lesser car, but I think that's more a product of me being a lesser driver.

>>16939788
ill get my zzw30 in the next few days.
Anything i should know? Other than precat del

>>16939838
At least you can actually make power easily

I'm always on the fence between the w30 and an NB. Nice thread. I'll post some thoughts.

The part of me that's learning towards the w30 likes it for how unique it is. I've seen two in the flesh over the course of my whole life. Miatas are fucking everywhere. I do with the w30 had as much storage space though. I think I'd definitely be sold on it then. The mid engine is so interesting, probably even more so for normies. I enjoy the styling of the w30 a lot.

Does anyone know the door sill height compared to an NA/NB Miata's? Also the stock ride height? I owned an NA Miata and I loved being able to hang my arm comfortable outside of the door. I also enjoyed how low to the ground I was. Is the w30 similar in that way? And are parts more expensive for the w30?

Thanks lads.

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>tfw nobody i know owns a w30
>tfw have to figure all this shit out myself

Bump for zzw30

get a hard top
get a nice wing
then it no longer looks ghey

just buy it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnwoNxtdJpI

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>>16940421
wide wheels senpai

Once it no longer looks gay girls wont like it as much.

>>16940424
who gives a flying fuck what girls think of your car.

fucking losers care thats who.

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>>16939980
You can make power with the V6 FIeros easily too with a trip to the junkyards.
>Ok, let me grab the cylinder heads and intake manifolds from this 3100 Chevy Lumina...
>Bam! Instant extra 40-50 HP and weight savings!

>>16940421
MR-S was the first car to beat DK's 86

AW11>SW20>SW30
My opinion is not incorrect.

>>16940426
zzw30 is one of the few cars that girls actually like.
Its nice to btfo beemer fags truck manlets and muscle car boy toys

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>>16940020
Zz stock height is actually pretty high, and because of the seating position it isn't comfy to stick your arm out the window.

A lot of parts are shared with the same year Corolla/Celica so it's cheap as shit to maintain and repair.

>>16940434
daily
sw20=aw11>w30
speed
sw20>aw11>w30
race
aw11>zzw30>sw20
touge
zzw30>aw11>sw20

>>16939656
I've always heard that the W30 was more expensive relative to the Miata
Has that changed recently?

How bad is snap oversteer in the spyder?

>>16939644
>today I learned without solicitation, the chassis code for some obscure forgotten toyota that didn't need to exist
Thanks TIDF. I love Toyota now.

>>16942794
in zzw30s its not a problem

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>>16939679
>>16939698
>>16939706
>>16939710
When you luck out and get a non-rusted hardtop AW11 2 years ago.

>>16939644
plenty of good NBs on the market, hard to find a MRS at a good price and condition.

>>16943764
you bastard...better keep good care of that thing. world needs more AW11's

>>16945033
I'm doing my best keeping up with things. Gotta get a new transmission since mine is going since it is probably the original. Might just rebuild mine. There also seems to be a vacuum leak going on. Nothing too major and I have the money. Gonna update the bearings with polyurethane and probably replace the stock struts with Koni Yellows. Just need to find a trusting mechanic in Socal. .

>>16939970
Nah precat is the biggie. It's beautiful in its simplicity and reliability as compared to its predecessors. It's a poor man's Elise. Exotic looks with a reliable heart.

>>16940438
>arm out window
SERIOUSLY! I thought I was the only to notice this shit. I'm a pretty tall dude with a long torso and it's very uncomfortable to put my arm anywhere but the armrest.

>>16942794
I've never encountered it. Understeer has been more of an issue for me than snap oversteer. Was having a little backroad fun behind the Elise and hit a big patch of gravel that had washed down into a long banked right-hander. Elise was fine, but I washed out wide and definitely would've been in trouble had a car been coming the other way. Car definitely pushes a little.

>>16939781

I drive an 850 t5 and aw11. =)