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You have a budget of $20000, you must come up with the best car for a downhill course with sharp turns. And no, I'm not talking about Haggard Garage's definition of touge.
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>>16937847
/o/s touge machine would be a bus
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>Real Touge

FD3S, apexi rx6 turbo kit, Kei office or tein mono sport suspension, tuned to around 350 -375whp.
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fiero with bodykit
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3k civic
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>>16937856
My touge machine is your mom.
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My ef before my buddy crashed it on the tooj lmao
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or for memes sake, Tsuchiyas ae86
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>>16937891
I too would mr-s
Just so people don't say I'm a nissan fanboy (I am)
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Evo 6.5
Series 8 fd type rs
Sti type r ver. 6
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C7 Corvette Z06
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>>16937971
If your touge is only 2 miles long and has no corners Roflmao
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>>16937877
>apexi rx6 turbo kit
Nigga for what? He said
>downhill
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If muh dorifto: RX-7
If muh time-trial: Impreza WRX STi 2000
If muh keks: Suzuki Cappucino
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2GR-FE powered Camry wagon with an upside down hovercraft fan in the back to produce insane downforce
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>>16937847
>Haggard Garage's definition of touge.

lel this, Im from the same state as them (connecticut) They are always talking about touging yet we have no mountain roads anywhere near here lmao
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>>16937847
1966 Lincoln Continental.
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>>16938060

>implying you don't need power for downhill

Stop watching cambodian drifting cartoons.
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>>16937847
>you forgot to define "best"

>$10k for a running MGB in good shape but not a 'restored classic'
>$5k for some fixes and performance mods
>$25 to put a beer in my cupholder and a tweed workman's/irish flat cap on my head.
>$5k under budget and I got to pick up that hipster chick who was ironically spectating on the race who then left me and my broken MG before I could get home to plow her because the lucas electrics shorted and I spent an hour talking about how terrible they are and forgot to dial the tow truck company.
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S13 coupe (Silvia or converted 240, for minimum chassis weight). Stripped. NA SR20DE with some reliability and breather mods and cams (160 whp is plenty). 2-way clutch LSD. Coilovers; nothing crazy; 8/6kg. Supporting suspension mods like RUCAs, toe arms, etc etc. Z32 brakes (small, to fit under small diameter wheels). Light weight 16x8 wheels all around with nice sticky rubber. Nice seat and steering wheel. Gas pedal extension for heel-toe action.
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>>16938197
Have you ever driven an FD?

You don't need to waste that money on a single turbo, use the money in brakes tires and suspension
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>>16938231
>not buying a miata, suspension, and turbo kit for less then $15k
>buying an MG to pick up grills
>owning a miata instead so you don' t have to worry about grills
>buying anything british
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>>16938537
"A gentleman does not motor about after dark."
-Joseph Lucas-
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>>16938236
And still be slower, and handle worse than a stock honda
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FD or MR-S

The RX7 is one of my favorite cars but I would go for the MR-S because the FD has been done to death and you could get more out of 20k with the MR.
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a tuned s2k would probably be the fastest
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>>16937847
>the best car
i can get a mazda protege for 1000 bucks here, with wt reduction and 19k in parts equals the best car within my reach
pic related, god machine
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>>16938672
>Honda fangirls actually believe this
Lmao
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>>16937877
>$20000
Ok now you have a stock FD
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>>16938240

>Have you ever driven an FD?

Nope, never.
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>>16937904
with a few simple mods
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>>16937847
818c.
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>>16938946
Wait, an actual good idea
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>>16938231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl_42B-uxsc
Na.
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>>16938946
>>16938957
Still would be slower than an Exige
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>>16939122
20k exige. Ok m8.
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Original mini with a b18
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2k for the car and 18k of sik mawdz
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Same thing I basically plan to do for real
Late 1st gen RX-7, swap suspension and steering over from 2nd gen, maybe engine as well if it's a 12a in the first gen, turbo it the fuck up and get decent enough size tires to allow this to drive well
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>>16938111
>WRX being faster than an RX-7 on the touge
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>>16938602
But it will have a roof.
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>>16937847
Cleanest stock rwd cadillac I can get and a few go pros. It would be hilarious
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>>16939381
are you me?
Close to same except I plan on carb-ing a 13b because I'm a carb guy through and through.
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>>16937847
flyin' miata with as much suspension and brake work as the budget allows
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>>16937847
lotus elise and slap a 2zz with tarbo in it.

Or recreate espirit mr2
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Used one of these.
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>>16938959
>all those pakis
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If I already own an FD, do I have to buy another?

Most of the dosh would be spent on suspension, prolly kei office, gonna' need to beef up the brakes because of my lead foot, and prolly dump the rest into that neat RE-Amemiya kit from initial meme.

Whatever's left'll be dumped into the engine to round things out, not much really needs to be done to it, if you're using an FD with more than 350hp for a downhill, you're probably gonna get yourself killed. Shit doesn't need it.

>>16938240
this, honestly. sequential twin turbo or bust for me, unless a twin-scroll single turbo went in, I'd try to avoid incurring more turbo lag at all costs. Besides, you can crank the factory turbos up to 350hp anyway.
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>>16939780
This, so much this. I'm thinking of going with BNR stage 3 twins. 370 horsepower with all the response I could ever want. I wish there was an aftermarket manifold for sequential twins. The stock cast one gets so hot.
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>>16938788
I bet you drive the downhill like Itsuki. Your car must really suck on corner exit
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>>16939801
>I wish there was an aftermarket manifold for sequential twins. The stock cast one gets so hot.

Yeah, I'm struggling to figure out what to do about that as well. Shit, though, everything in this car gets fucking hot, most the mods I'm planning on doing to mine are really just geared around reliability and keeping my needles from going into the red.

What year's yours? I dig you've got the oldschool badge, but that doesn't mean dick on these with the way people replace shit all the time, mine rolled out the factory in november '93.

I always dig seeing the ausfags' spirit Rs, makes me eternally jealous that we never got them in the states.
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>>16937847
a 5.0 fox body mustang with slicks, huge supercharger (lag free), a low suspension, ethanol conversion, gutted and 50/50 weight balanced. some safety stuff as extra
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>>16939834
I have a JDM '94 Type R. Here's a picture of it at auction before I bought it. Minty minty.

I haven't done much with it yet. I'm driving it to the limit before I decide what mods to do (anything I don't like will be changed). I have an adaptronic to install when it gets out of the body shop (vandalism) along with a wideband, and I'm going to run meth injection ASAP. If you don't have it already, get it. It's the number 2 mod for FDs next to an ECU.
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>>16939841
>50/50 weight balanced
Gonna throw an LS1 and some 50 lb dumbells in the trunk, huh?
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>>16939877
naw just your mother and a big black guy
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>>16939880
About the response I would expect from someone retarded enough to run a fox body on the downhill
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>>16939871
Shit, are you that one canada-anon that got his shit smashed a couple weeks ago?

If so, I'm sorry, nigga. And yeah, have been thinking about the methanol injection, like you I haven't really done much (it's pretty much bone stock except for having ripped out the catalytic converter - my locality doesn't even have the required tech to be able to emissions test if they wanted to, nor has anyone ever gone looking for one in the 5 years I've been getting it inspected this way, one perk of living in the rural backwoods of VA).
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around 12k for a good one
5k on full exhaust, otr, mafless to make 300kw+
1k on good suspension
1k on RE003's
1k on cement to keep the rear planted
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>>16939871
You the guy who's windshield got smashed? Ever figure out who did it?
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>>16939901
>>16939890

Yep, that's me. I'm pretty sure it's the Subaru guy, but since I don't have concrete evidence, he is being spared an ass kicking. I have a low profile dash cam with a motion sensor so if he does it again, I'll know.

I'm assuming you ripped out the pre-cat by the turbo, right? If you removed both, be careful. You can get mad boost creep.

Methanol injection is a must. Lower intake temps, much better knock protection (virtually won't ever happen even in hot weather), and carbon removal.

How do you like your car so far? I fucking love mine. I want it back so bad. I just went to an FD meet last night and 4 other guys just got black FDs. I spent the whole time drooling.

>pic in the shop
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>>16939923
>How do you like your car so far?
I'm driving my dream car before age 30, I'm pretty fuckin' happy with it. Honestly, everyone always talks about trying to crank absurd amounts of power out of these things, but my main sticking point is the handling, it just feels perfect, the balance is fucking amazing. I keep comparing it to my friend's GT86 and I'd just rather have the FD any day of the week, though the 86 is pretty damn good for what it is.

Problem is that it stays in storage in my garage a lot because I've been travelling between states a lot for work and working on getting a graduate degree, don't have anywhere much time to wrench or drive as I want, but in a year's time I'll have both the money and free time to actually enjoy the fucking thing again.

Didn't rip out the pre-cat yet, want to get a proper downpipe but can never decide what I actually want to spend my money on.

Thanks for the headsup about boost creep, haven't seen too much about that on rx-7club, but then again I haven't really been looking. Pretty rare to find people that know their heads from their ass regarding rotaries on here.
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/diy/
>$1.5k on frame mats, suspension, go kart wheels/tires, steering wheel, welder, saw
>$2k on good motorcycle engine
>$10 on used sofa cushions
>$10 on bungee cords and duct tape
>2in clearance off ground, shocks stiff as fuck (cushions keep ride comfy)
>wrap cushions in duct tape, suspend on near-taught bungee cords
>spend $15k making 3 more of them so that 3 friends and I can race
Buying a car is so boring, and I'm damn sure I could outrun anything you've got in this scenario with the above.
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>>16938236
You dont need the pedal extension, I heel toe my s13 quite comfortably
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>>16937847
A well modded miata. Buy a well kept on and just spend the rest on mods
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>>16939945
Same, I'm 23 and although it hasn't been my dream car for a long time, I haven't HAD a dream car for a long time. The FD satisfies in ways that no other car can. The fucking insane grip of this thing with no hint of understeer...it inspires so much confidence, it's ridiculous. You can keep your fat GTR or M3, normies.

I hope you get a chance to drive her soon!\

The pre-cat would definitely be causing more flow issues than the main cat, unless a piece of it broke off and clogged your main cat. Get rid of it. Just get an efini downpipe!

So, to mitigate boost creep, you can put a restrictor plate in your exhaust, port the wastegates, or leave the stock silencer on (or another silencer that isn't a resonator). Or you could just accept the bigger boost, but tune for it!

God I MISS MY CAR SO MUCH you have no idea right now. I can't even go outside and stare at it.

So you have a year to save up, huh? I suggest saving up a bit of money for a preemptive rebuild. You don't want to HAVE to rebuild it before it goes, because then you run the risk of chipping an apex seal and ruining your rotor housing. Do it while it costs you $1000 instead of 3 times that! Meth injection and standalone ecu with wideband are a must, too. Got any questions for me? I do a lot of research
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>>16937847
1994 EG hatch with a couple of simple mods:

- 10 point cage with Parachute
- 3 piece discontinued JoJo frontend
- spec-R full drag suspension
- Fuel cell with -8 lines from tank to motor
- 1 044 bosch pump
- 1200 rc injectors
- golden eagle sleeved block
- cp 10:1 pistons
- Eagle rods
- arp headstuds
- oem h22 headgasket
- Balance shaft delete
- competition clutch twin disc
- Port and polished head
- skunk2 valve springs and retainers
- Str cam gears
- crower stage 1 cams
- aluminium radiator with slim fan
- gsr transmission with itr lsd.
- qsd h2k intake manifold adapter
- k20 rbc manifold
- qsd throttle body spacer
- blox 70mm throttle body
- 4bar omni map sensor
- 6al msd with coil and cap. 3 step launch control
- hks bov
- Garret 102mm turbocharger.
- Custom t4 front facing turbo manifold with 44mm flange
- 44mm tial wastegate
- Custom water to air intercooler set up
- aem eugo wideband w/ gauge
- tuned on chipped p28
- 13 inch volks drag rims
- 2 15 inch volks rear rims
- arp extended wheel studs
- si cluster
- 150 shots of nitrous

should be good for about 250hp
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>>16939984
It's weird talking to you, fucker. I'm a year older, shit's like looking in a mirror.

Hope you get it back ASAP, have you had word from the shop? I'm assuming they don't even have a new windshield cut yet or some massive backlog of cars to get to before you're up as always seems to be the case.

Actually had the engine rebuilt just after I bought it, and have only driven maybe 15k miles on it across 5 years since I got it, found a local bulldyke who'd used to work for the Mazda dealer shop relatively nearby, her rate was pretty good, I really need to see if I can dig her number up for anything I might need done in the future that I don't have the equipment to handle myself.
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>>16940023
Nigga.

The windshield gets here 2 weeks from monday. They're doing the body work in the meantime. Lord, I can't fucking wait. And since mine is an insurance case, they prioritize it because they get paid more. I expect another 3 weeks though. Fuck, I'm dying.

I'm probably going to rebuild mine in the summer. Doing it myself. Shops here in Canada want a lot of money to do it. Shit man do you have whatsapp or kik or anything? I feel like we could probably shoot the shit
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>>16940056
>whatsapp

I fucked up, I don't use that, try kik and snapchat. Sorry, I'm 3 strong drinks into the evening and my mind is slipping.
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>>16940056
Sounds good dude. I'll hit you up!
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>>16939961
Ur gonna need more than that crochet rocket to win at race wars.
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>>16939896
Fuck you dont need the cement uleh just get a fat sports bar and a truck liner
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>>16937905
Okay so you have Anon's mother... That means you've still got $19990 to spend on a car for the touge.
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>>16937847
Mr-s
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>>16937847

>Buy Mitsubishi L200
>Uprate the suspension
>Steel plating under the whole car
>Brushguards because why not
>Snorkel because you never know

I will just go straight and forget about the turns.
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>>16940220
Best idea so far
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Integra type R dc2 with everything else in tires suspension and brakes
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>>16939122
>weighs less than an Exige
>has more power
wut
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>>16939887
Foxes confirmed for uphill machines
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>>16940220
>it's called the triton GLS sports
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>>16937847
LS1+RX7=only logical choice
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>>16940275

in EuroLand it's called the L200. Same shit probably.
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>>16940283
no as in, there is a hardened sports model for what you described called the GLS sports
for you it would be the L200 GLS sports if you got it
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>>16938689
Ever seen best motoring?
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>>16940289

We europoors never got this.
The most we got is the Ford Ranger Wildtrak since this is the standard pick-up size here so they actually see all the work
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>>16940289
>hardened sports model

Fullback cross
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>>16937908
Completely, utterly tasteless.
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This
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these threads are so fucking autistic.
you people cant drive. it doesnt matter what car you have.
pick something you like not some meme machine.

reading u fags list mods with brand names is so cringe.
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Honda DC2 and DC5 Integra Type-R would be my pick, can be had for much less than $20K.

http://beautifullyengineered.tumblr.com/post/20498321124/the-honda-integra-type-r-dc2-is-beautifully

Pros
- light weight
- relatively low cost/complexity drive train
- well engineered from factory to be driven relatively hard
- great brakes/disc size standard
- FWD is confidence inspiring for all skill levels
- enjoyable power level for driving 8 tenths and over
- longer wheel base over civics make it slightly more predictable to steer

Cons
- harder to find well maintained examples
- stereotypes
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>>16940511
Cons
-slow
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>>16940466
Understeer hard unless the rear hooks hard and you flip.
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>>16940653
so slow
https://youtu.be/Ceb4861SG7Q
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>>16939809

>large street port
>twinscroll gt4088

It exits corners just fine.
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>>16940688
Congratulations on picking the wrong turbo.
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>>16937847
Get out of here Takahashi Ryosuke
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>>16937847
What is Haggard Garages definition of Touge?
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>>16938231
you think youre smarter than you are
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>>16939525
its crazy you presume to immediately compare an s13 to a s2000. A stock civic type r would beat that thing up and have a more enjoyable chassis
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>>16938236
>2 way LSD

y tho.

Unless you are pulling some sick drifts anything more than a 1 way or 1.5 way its pointless. A 2 way can seriously harm your non-drift braking turning
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>>16940511
EK Civic Hatch body
>B18C from integra
> Weld/brace front steering rack so it doesnt move under any circumstance
> Install front suspension and steering rack from another civic into Rear
> Move pedals, wheel, seats to face the rear
> Basically RR engined Civic with your face to the back hatck for maximum keks and your headlights blinding your opponent at the rear.
> You can also race with the hatch open for fun
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>>16938111
Nice choices anon, i would take evo 6 over rex but same difference
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>>16940220
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>>16939978
Have you considered that not everyone has the same legs as you? My right foot naturally points a bit to the right, so twisting it left for heel-toe requires more effort than other people. A pedal extension helps me greatly.

I suppose you'd tell me I also wear the wrong size shoes and have the wrong waist dimension?
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Judging from Hot Version's touge series the fastest cars there were RX7, S2000, GT-R, MR2, NSX and Civic
Think I'd personally go with an MR2 or an Integra since building a fast RX7, GT-R, S2000 or NSX would go way over 20k budget.
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>>16940970
This thread is about downhill touge. That's "y".
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>>16937856
>/o/s touge machine would be a bus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-jt5EYHZ5U
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>>16939834
>most the mods I'm planning on doing to mine are really just geared around reliability and keeping my needles from going into the red.

Bigger rad, dual 11 inch fans, aluminum engine under tray, aluminum radiator side ducts, 170 degree oil thermostat, twin oil coolers, oil thermo pellet bypass, vented hood.

Never seen higher than 190f railing into it, thats with a single turbo though.
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>>16941800

Also z31 300zx coolant cap, higher pressure and fits the FD.
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MR-S with a 2zz swap.
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>>16937847
2006 Toyota MR-S
Honda K20A2 swap
6-speed manual with helical LSD
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>>16940970
>2017
>using clutch pack LSDs
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>>16941826
You want lower pressure, retard. The FD was changed to .9 bar
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caterham or some shit like that and a casket for later
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>>16940511
Cons
- 1200kg plus your fat ass
- 62:38 weight ratio
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>>16937847
Civic for 3k
>delet panels
>delet bumpers
>better tires
>better wheels
>coilovers
>LS swap
>lighter seats
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>>16942313

>lower pressure
>lower boiling point

No thanks retard.
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>>16942774
Enjoy blowing your coolant lines and destroying your turbos and engine for no reason whatsoever

I bet you're also running a colder thermostat, lmao
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Pic related.
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>>16942313

>.9 bar

That's oem, meant for the oem cooling system on a stock engine with factory twins.

Make more power than stock and you need to run more water and less anti freeze for better cooling and a higher pressure cap to raise the boiling point.
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>>16942799
>Enjoy blowing your coolant lines

>implying factory style rubber hoses

All of my coolant hoses are stainless braided 20AN.


Nice try though.
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>>16942813
Nah, you want the lower pressure cap to get air out of the system. If anything, fit a slightly bigger rad. Cooling mods aren't as important as everyone thinks on a rotary, since by design, they don't heat themselves up a lot (the exhaust is hot, but the air flow and lack of friction make the rotors and housings comparatively less prone to overheating). Plus, the oil does 50% of the cooling. The sequential twins are the biggest heat sink point on an FD.

>>16942833
I'm sure you need all of that. Have fun when the inevitable happens, though. I hope you're running an EWP, but you seem like the special kind of retard who would do track mods on a street car and still use the stock water pump
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pic related with turbo kit
>rwd
>lightweight
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>>16942894
>lightweight

pic related is 700lbs lighter kek
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>>16942860
>I hope you're running an EWP

Turblown engineering kit, haven't installed it yet since I'm never home to do it.

car isn't being driven atm anyway.
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>>16937847
>I looked for a white turbo FC for months and some piece of shit molested this one
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>>16942959
>Re;amemiya kit
>molested
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>>16942910
Nice Boxster bruh
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>>16942968
>Brand name makes it okay
That thing looks like utter shit. The stock appearance was perfect.
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>>16942977
Youre an idiot and your shit is stupid stfu
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>>16942977
That is your opinion. Besides, it's functional aero. You literally won't be able to find a stock looking but modified Japanese tuner car. All of them, at the very least have wings.
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>>16943006
I never said anything about the wing. In fact, I think that looks okay. My issue is with the front bumper, front fenders, and headlights.
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EA21R "high-spec" Suzuki Cappuccino 5MT.
® FR
® 1,600 - lb curb weight
® Dbl wish-bongs at all 4 corners
® OEM LSD
® Gear ratios perfect for a tight, downhill sprint course
® I would add a very small turbo and wide wheels
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>>16938700
>stock FD
*stock automatic FD
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>>16937847
miata+turbo+various engine upgrades+some way to change engine properties on the go (idle, air/fuel ratio, wastegate pressure, etc.)
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>>16937908
fuck i cringed before i even opened the thumbnail, and you cant even see the fuckugly wheels
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>>16938236
i like it
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>>16943050
>oem lsd
why? these already came with factory equipped lsd
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>>16937908
watashi wa nihongi desu~ ^-^
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>>16943497
kek
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Used Polaris sling shot
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>>16942910
And 700 units gayer.
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>>16944013
You're gonna look much gayer when a tuned MR-S swoops by you on the tou gay
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>>16937908
>has a decent ef
>does this tasteless shit to it

this is why I can't openly like hondas
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>>16944034
You know that perception is a valid point and you're still denying it. For most people, regardless of healthy self-image, the way they look in a certain car is still something to consider before being seen in it.
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>>16944119
this is about making the best car for a downhill course with sharp turns
not about cars that don't look gay
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>>16944119
You think the rally fag in id cared about driving a cappuchino?
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>>16937908
>My ef before my buddy crashed it on the tooj
good fucking riddance, i wish it was you who crashed it and died
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Well this is ez... less ask da touge King,

touge King, what da bess touge mobile?
Here ya answer, Busta Bitches, use left over doshish for slowfag bikecunt splatter clean off front bumper
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Rotary swapped Twingo, with a panda trueno paintjob, 3D black ice little tree, and a couple of simple mods to make 400+HP (but only like 98 lbs-ft of torque) to the front wheels, the only place the power should ever be.

Meet me at the finish line.
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>>16939986
to the FRONT WHEELS, aka the only place power should be going
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>>16944273
>400+HP (but only like 98 lbs-ft of torque)
22k RPM Twingo?!
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>>16944144
you mean ferrari
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>>16944273
Yes.
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>>16938687
I had one of these, they are surprisingly sporty for being a shitbox
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>>16938687

Dat built in weight reduction system. Speed holes ftw.
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>>16940864
>enjoyable
People get honda's because they feel sporty without having the harsh ride of an actually quick car.
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>>16942894
>dealing with turbo lag downhill on the touge
Good luck dagumi. Don't let those delusions of grandeur get you killed.
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>>16945565
You clearly have no idea of what a Type R is.
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