Why is GM under attack here?

Butthurt weebs and eurocucks mostly.
Brand loyalty is retarded anyways

Because you fags sperg so much
>>16936068

>>16936105
>defending a Ford product
>called a GM fan
You can see how this is irritating.

>>16936112
What?

General Motors are generally shit

>>16936099
i don't see any reason to hate gm as an european
opel is not a bad brand

>>16936087
Because everyone is bandwagoning on the Meme.

I like GM. They mess up a lot of things that they should have down by now, but they are able to compete with vehicles that are way more expensive and can build V8 engines like no one else

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>>16936644

>>16936087
It's just GM's turn in the barrel. Just wait /o/ will be shitposting about a different brand soon.

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>>16936087
because a eurotard with a diesel fiat

Bevause they willingly killed countless customers by being greedy fucks, and refused to do anything about it until they were threatened with so many fines they'd be bankrupt and no bailout either
Then the bitch cunt whore slut ceo cow broke down into tears for the world to see like that would change the fact they chose to ignore killer ignition switches because the cost of replacing them all was more than expected class action suits

Disgusting company
Oh and they can't beat a decade old nissan no matter how hard they try
And they've never won le mans :^)

>>16936087
GM makes no fun cars under 30k.

>>16936446
A loss for Nissan every time

>implying any brand is not under attack here
>implying this board has any purpose other than penniless teenagers expressing their frustration at cars that cost more than their yearly allowance

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>>16938141
>mfw your right
>mfw the shanty town of /v/

>>16938079
Define fun. I can have fun in a chevy colorado. I find anything by toyota boring as shit though.

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>>16938035

Shit cars with ugly designs and obnoxious marketing.

>>16936644
>Because everyone is bandwagoning on the Meme.

I'll have you know I hated GM way before it was cool.

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how does it feel that ZAKUS and GOUFS are kicking GM ass all over the show

Because they dont get a single onscreen kill in all of mobile suit gundam

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>>16936644
>and can build V8 engines like no one else
you mean with pushrods?

>>16936087
They make underpowered 1.4L shitboxes that guzzle gas like there's no tomorrow, while absolutely lacking pickup at the same time

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>>16941104
I'm sorry what was that? I can't hear you over my numerous awards

>>16941131
>my numerous awards
A Le Mans victory isn't one of them :^)

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>>16941223
BTFO

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>>16941223
Not for lack of trying.
While we're on the subject, where's Ford's LMP car? oh that's right. Ford never did an overall win once LMP was added.

>>16936087
Because they rank lower than Japanese cars in terms of performance, cost, and reliability. They have some cool redeeming characteristics like being American manufacturers and being the creators of the infamous LS series but other than that they don't have much going on for them. It took them everything under the sun to compete against an average Japanese family sedan and still lose

>>16941275
DPi =/= LMP1

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>>16941284
>Because they rank lower than Japanese cars in terms of performance, cost, and reliability.
Nope.
>Buick is right up there with Lexus in reliability with most of the rest around Toyota, Scion, and Honda
>cars outperform Japanese rivals at the same price
Compare a Fit Sport or Yaris SE to a Sonic LT Turbo

The only thing wrong with GM at this point is questionable choices in interior design, but at that point, you're just looking for things to nitpick.

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>>16941230
will they ever recover from this?
>>16941275
>Not for lack of trying.
exactly, not for lack of trying. For lack of performance and reliability.

>>16938072
This

They knew about the problem prior to complaints

>>16941307
Great now drive that Sonic 200k miles and say that again

>>16938072
>Oh and they can't beat a decade old nissan no matter how hard they try
Actually they have numerous times. But Nissan makes major changes to the car every single year. The 2017 GTR shares nothing with the 2009 car beyond the floorpan and engine block.

>>16941335
gladly. Some are already there. So long as you avoid the 1.8L, the Sonic is fantastic. It's literally just as reliable as a Corolla. But much more interesting.

>>16941335
>moving goalposts
Nice try faggot lover

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Mfw can't shitpost

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>>16941338
>The 2017 GTR shares nothing with the 2009 car beyond the floorpan and engine block.
So you admit the cuckvette can't beat a 2009 GTR with a few bolt ons?
PFFFFFFFFFHAHAHAHAHAHA
BWAHAHHAHAHAHAA BWAHAHHAHAHAHAA BWAHAHHAHAHAHAA
GM BTFO again

>>16941404
So you admit the GTR was so bad it needs to be completely redesigned every year?

Because GM as a brand almost entirely subsists off retarded boomers (and those who think like boomers) to keep itself afloat

It'll end up being purchased by Dacia in 2030

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>>16941416
>a few bolt ons are "completely redesigning"

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>>16941428
>sharing nothing but the floorpan and engine block is "just a few bolt ons"

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>>16941472
>gm fangirls making stuff up as usual

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>>16936467
>opel is not a bad brand

tfw Opel is now French

>>16941478
>I posted the face of an Asian woman with a botched plastic surgery
>Surely that will make me right!

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>>16941485
stay btfo

>>16941491
You're so btfo and can't prove anything about bolt ons, that the US government changed your initials to BTFO

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>>16941498
is this the best you got?
BWAHAHHAHAHAHAA

>>16936467
their GM based models are complete dogshit like the insignia. Adam, Corsa etc are okay.

>>16941507
>Corsa
>okay
kek, enjoy your lack of control and ending under a ditch

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>>16941104

Pushrods push gods.

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>>16936467
>>16941507
modern opels are shit
old opels are the shit

>>16941507
You're fucking retarded. Opel has been part of GM since the 1920's/
They're ALL GM based.

>>16941505
Shut up Brian.

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>>16941538
>Brian

>>16941561
Shut up Theodore

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>>16941566
>Theodore

>>16941572
Shut up Franklin

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>>16941577
>Brian Theodore Franklin

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>>16941604
:^)

>>16941604
Shut up Oliver.

>>16941618
Shut up Benjamin

>>16941538
>>16941566
>>16941577
>>16941630
>Brian
>Theodore
>Franklin
>Oliver

>>16941618

>>16941618
nigger

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>>16941672
>Bravada
>Tracker
>Fiero
>Outlook

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Stop giving these fags (you)s

>>16941710
>Bluebird
>Tiida
>Frontier
>One-Eighty SX

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>>16941748
At least none of those were made by failed brands

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>>16941780
>implying Nissan didn't die in 2002 and the name is now used as a mask for a French company

>>16936446
outdated info

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Dunno

>>16938035
>g-guys it's only one or two people shitposting epicly
>it's not just popular opinion that GM sucks
>r--right?

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is there any other brand with worse (design & quality) interiors than GM?

>>16941802
Subaru, Mitsubishi, Nissan

>>16941788
>implying it isn't the other way round
Renaults use Nissan engines nowadays
stay BTFO

>Bravada
>Tracker
>Fiero
>Outlook

>Oldsmobile Bravada
>Geo Tracker
>Pontiac Fiero
>Saturn Outlook


>Oldsmobile
>Geo
>Pontiac
>Saturn

really makes you think

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>>16941794
>modified car lap times

>>16941821
>GTR with a few bolt ons
>not modified
pick one.

>>16941828
Modified in respect to the older model, dipshit. The Corvette was specially modified for that track.

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>>16941832
>posts old one
Post the new one if you're going to shitpost accurately.

>>16941839
>making excuses for his Nissan being riced.

>>16941847
>riced
It's called model year, fag

>>16941859
>THe Nissan GTR
>riced in a new way every year

>>16941104
exactly, with pushrods

they're engines that are ultimately cheaper to acquire and maintain than any other fancy shmancy ohc units. who gives a shit about horsepower per unit displacement and number of valves crammed into the heads if the cheaper and larger displacement engine ultimately produces the same results for less?

i'd much rather prefer a big hunk of a 6.2L, 2-valve, pushrod pig of engine pushing 400bhp with utmost ease, than a 2.0L turbocharged 4 cylinder unit making the same power.

>>16941802
Yeah, Mazda

>>16941801
REAL PEOPLE
NOT ACTORS

>>16941896
>not taking the lighter engine making the same power

Literally retarded GM shill. Go back to your focus group and talk about how much you hate aluminum.

>>16942034
>lighter
fewer cylinders does not equal lighter. The LS V8 is lighter than both the RB engines and the JZ engines, along with a good chunk of iron block I4's. It's astonishing how light those V8s are actually.

>>16936099
Because triggering dumb americucks like this guy is fun

>>16941896
>>16941526
Post an LS faster than this

https://accufabracing.com/accufab-mustang

>>16936467
>>16942134
Gm is simply too big to hate. Their sports cars are in a league of their own. However a lot of their econoboxes are simply shit tier compared up competition.

>>16936087
>resident competitor (toyota, ford) shills

>>16941223
>A Le Mans victory
GM uses other methods of PR/publicity than purchasing a single class victory.

>>16941223
gm fangirls on suicide watch

>>16941317
>will they recover
nope, eternally btfo

>>16941299
btfo

>>16941870
it's called a model year

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I hate GM but I love their brands

In an ideal world GM would die and Chevy/Corvette, Cadillac would become their own competing brands

It makes me so sad to think what Cadillac could achieve if it werent hamstrung by GM

>>16942921
It makes me sad to think of a world where Corvette becomes a brand and Corvette starts producing SUVs.

>>16941338
Nissan makes little changes every year
Gm has released two z06s and a zr1 to compete with a gtr that has had the same engine since 2009 Lmao

>>16936644
My only experience with gm is a Chevy spark rental. So I'll paint the entire company and all subsidiaries from a shit 5 days with a garbage tier rental.

>>16942989
Learn some automotive history.

Only one generation of Z06 came to market after the 2009 GT-R. The other three generations came before.

But I'm assuming you were a toddler around 2009 so it's okay, just show up with some knowledge, and you won't be shit posting.

>>16942203
>a single class victory
Ford has as many overall wins as Alfa Romeo

>>16942921
what is the ideal Cadillac? a manual CTSV wagon? i have no idea, you tell me

>>16943057
I'm not the one saying gtr undergoes massive changes every year model :^)
And yet it's been on the same chassis for near a decade, with the same drive train, with the same body! And the corvette has gone from z06 to zr1, to an entirely new generation just to compete with a car that has stayed primarily the same since it's release

Lmao gm fangirls literally cannot deal with these facts

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gm fangirls btfo yet again

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GM fangirls on suicide watch

>>16943089

Spoiler: An XLR-V based on the C7 platform

But no their entire V lineup is solid