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Was the Ford Model T the most historically-important car model?

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Was the Ford Model T the most historically-important car model?
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>>16926856
No.
Henry ford was a piece of shit thief and his company is ran on lies, deception, and greed.
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>>16926866
>Based anon

Elaborate.
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Ehh.

It wasn't the first car, the first mass-produced car, or the first car made on an assembly line, but it sold like hotcakes and was cheap so it became the most historically notable one for making cars available to the common man.
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>>16926871
http://www.allpar.com/corporate/bios/dodge-brothers.html
Ford pretty much has never designed their own vehicles and when they do, they are complete shit.
They build low quality cars using low quality parts and sell at the highest cost to consumers, while undercutting prices.
Then fuck the consumer in the ass if they complain. Then run insane sales and push money into their marketing to make themselves look like "good guy ford"

Fuck them. I would piss on henrys grave
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>>16926903
>I would piss on henrys grave

It seems that people have tried to defecate his grave in the past, or else those bars would not be in place.
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>>16926903
>sell at the highest cost to consumers, while undercutting prices.
wat
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>>16926942
>designated shitting slots
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>>16927385
Do not know how business works?
>someone has a product
>you build a simular product cheaper (less quality)
>original product sold for $100 and cost $30 to produce
>sell your product at $90 when it only cost $1 to produce
>dumb customer buys cheap product and gets fucked
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>>16926942
>you know people don't want you to come back when they put giant stone and steel bars over your grave.
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>>16926871
Ford was basically Edison on wheels.
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>>16927538
A thief and a crook?
Yup
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>>16926856
No. but it could be argued that the Cadillac Type 53 was.
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>>16927540
I think you meant to type "An absolute lad", be more careful in future
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>>16926866
>t. butthurt gm fangirl
BWAHAHHAHAHAHAA

btfo by a v6
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>>16927579
Good lord.
Learn some history you piece of shit.
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>>16927581
>another car not designed by ford
Wew
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>>16927577
pic related
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>>16926866
>Henry Leland was a piece of shit thief and his company is ran on lies, deception, and greed.
FTFY
Henry Ford was a good awesome man with a good awesome heart who traveled the world making cars accessible to the common man and redpilling people.
>>16927589
>things gm fangirls say
sure thing lad
http://www.fordgt.org/2017-ford-gt-the-inside-design-story/
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>>16927583
Edison went round electrocuting stray dogs with alternating current to prove how dangerous it was and that direct current was better. That research was vital to understanding how to electrocute stray dogs with a rival Della's invention.
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>>16927593
>trying to credit cadillac with the active suspension
you're in for a wild ride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8
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>>16927612
>rival fella's
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>>16927606
Read.
>>16926903
>ford paid for a website to shill their shitty car
Yeah im gonna totally believe what ford says.
GM is shit too btw
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>>16927624
Show me the true GT designer then. Burden of proof is on you who made the claim that Ford didn't design it.
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>>16926866
t. kike scum
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>>16926903
>Henry Ford grew eccentric, allegedly fearing red-heads (like the Dodges), hiring thugs to beat “trouble making” employees, imposing religious demands on his workers (enforced by house visits), and sponsoring a newspaper to blame Jews for all the world’s ills.
Lmao. easy to tell who made that website, a bunch of fucking kikes
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>>16927624
Yeah I read it, so what. They supplied Ford with components and suggested modifications to him, doesn't mean they designed the car.
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>>16927635
Read it again then.
Illiterate fuck
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>>16927634
>by (((David Zatz)))
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>>16927638
>katz
ashkenazi kike
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>>16927642
Could he look any more like a rat? Holy shit this is Bernie Sanders tier.
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>>16927648
lmao
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>>16927638
>>16927648
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>>16927628
PREACH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttO6CC4Tjao
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Today I learned Henry Ford was even more based than I thought.
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>>16927706
He was the first American recipient of the Grand Cross of the German Eagle
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>>16927699
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY HORRID!
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>>16927737
and completely untrue. Henry Ford was an asshole and a conspiracy theorist who thought he could tell people how to live their lives. The reason he sold the Model T so long was because he thought it was the perfect car because he made it. His son had to kick him from the company to get the Model A into production and save the company.
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>>16927616
>hydraulic suspension is somehow active.
Nope. That is what's called a passive suspension, not active.
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>>16927819
>and completely untrue
its entirely factual. i was quoting the crying dude in the video.

>Henry Ford was an asshole and a conspiracy theorist
Nice... Would you care to deny the fact that the majority of war profiteers in both the great war and ww2 were jewish bankers and businessmen? Or that lend lease act and sanctions on logistics during the war were constructed by any one other than jewish bankers and businessmen?

The model t made automobiles accessible to the average man. Stay upset that chrysler is owned by filthy italian faggots and ford is still blue :^)
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>>16927626
You kidding? It's Shelby.
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>>16927840
>Would you care to deny the fact that the majority of war profiteers in both the great war and ww2 were jewish bankers and businessmen?
>businessmen like Ford
care to deny that?
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>>16927856
>businessmen like Ford
Ford was vehemently opposed to war profiteering

Keep crying bitch
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>>16927863
>Ford was vehemently opposed to war profiteering
but he still did it. hypocritical really.
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>>16927868
>but he still did it
Except he didnt :^)

He was a pacifist and believed war to be evil in all aspects
He refused to produce any goods for the belligerents of the great war
Though when the usa entered he was forced to help the war effort along with every other manufacturer.. Same with ww2, refused to produce any goods until pearl harbor was bombed then he felt a sense of duty to support the war effort.
Support is not war profiteering. War profiteering is the creation and furthering of conflict for the purpose of.. well.. profit. Support is patriotism.

Ford is a patriot. You are a kike sympathizing, mudslime loving terrorist.
stay btfo
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Model T deffo was significant.
everything before (1886) and after that is Benz.
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>>16927883
>Same with ww2
he had been forced out of the company by then to keep it from going bankrupt. Again.
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>>16927830
>nigger doesn't know what Citroën Hydractive is
lmfao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pMG55QjmAw
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>>16927895
>he had been forced out of the company by then
and yet he still had veto throughout that period...
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>>16927850
That was the previous GT, not the current one.
The name is all they have in common.
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>>16927856
>jewish bankers and businessmen
You're supposed to read it "jewish (bankers and businessmen)". I'm using the parentheses here like they're used in math. Jewish applies to all here, not just the bankers.
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>>16927918
>and yet he still had veto throughout that period...
because he still held stock. He vetoed everything out of spite for being kicked out of the company and not being allowed to tell employees how to live anymore.
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>>16927883
>Ford is a patriot. You are a kike sympathizing, mudslime loving terrorist.
He'd probably cheer if he was alive when Patton was assassinated.
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>>16927933
forgot pic
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>>16927942
now that is a hero.
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>>16927634
They write that shit to make it clear that they'll continue to slander you decades after you're dead if you dare criticize them. It's both a vulgar display of power and a veiled threat for anyone successful. Look at what they've been doing to this great man for "The Passion of the Christ" and some drunken (but true) rants.
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>>16927540
Kek thats what I meant
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>>16927540
>>16928131
>kikes projecting
how shocking
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>>16928489
>using the word projecting the wrong way
lmao
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>>16928534
>the wrong way
nope
kikes are theves and crooks who project their disgusting idiosyncrasy on others
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>>16926866

T. Jew
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>>16927634
>you will never work an a 100% Christian Ford plan free of Jews.
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>people find out henry was a terrible person and his vehicles are shit
>all they can do is scream kike
>im irish anyway
Kek. Pathetic ford fags
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Is this Ford's best car they ever made?
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>>16926866
How does this make the car less important?
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>>16929218
It was a dodge with a ford badge.
Just like most fords today are mazdas with ford badge.
And ford uses poor quality electronics and metals. Studies show ford variants to be less reliable than the car they copied
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>>16926866
>t. butt gm fan gurl or yuropoor

Let me guess you're also

>Edison was a farce le teslsa xD xD

Fuck off
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>>16929234
Already said GM a shit.
Edison, while a smart feller, fucked over a lot of people too. He wasnt that great.
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>>16926866
Leftists can't stand that it was Henry Ford, not UAW, who invented the 40 hour work week.
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>>16927410
If the customer is willing to pay 90% of the price for 3% of the quality and keeps coming back, he has no one to blame but himself.
Unless the 3% quality still represent something decent, then the other manufacturer is dumb as hell for overengineering his product 30x over.
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>>16929502
Right. So people who buy fords are retarded.
And people who buy bmw are retarded.
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I'd argue the most historically important vehicles were:
>Benz Motorwagen
First car. More precisely, the first practical automobile with an internal combusion engine, used for the first overland road trip, first car to be faster on average than a man on foot over longish distances.

>Ford Model T
first popular car

>Cadillac 53
first car to use today's control layout.

>Austin 7
first popular car to use today's control layout.
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>>16929582
>today's control layout.
No, much earlier cars had steering wheels and gas/brake pedals.
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>>16930020
But not what you'd consider a normal clutch pedal, shifter and handbrake.
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>>16930030
I'm a faggot, thought you meant 1953.
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>>16929062
>henry was a terrible person
He raised salaries when no one else was doing it. People loved working at Ford.
>his vehicles are shit
>t. butthurt gm fangirl

>all they can do is scream kike
>im irish anyway
Yeah, (((Irish))), sure thing.


What did captcha mean by this?
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>>16929228
>the car they copied
Nigger, the Dodge Brother made the parts following Ford's specs. Then they copied his concepts and made improvements. They were the japs before the japs started doing jap things.
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>>16929511
>And people who buy bmw are retarded.
I won't contest that
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>>16930462
>>16930472
>didnt read article
>didnt learn history
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>>16930525
I read the article and it's a bunch of lies intertwined with the truth, as expected from a guy called David Zatz. Pure propaganda aimed at slandering one of the greatest men America has raised.
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>>16930551
If you knew real history, you would know that isnt lies at all.
Henry ford was a piece of shit and so is his company and products.
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>>16930864
Literally this mad
Lmao

Keep crying bitch bevause he Introduced the 40 hour working week and was opposed to slave tier labor
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>>16930864
>Henry ford was a piece of shit and so is his company and products.
wrong
>>16930886
this
kikes hate workers and love to exploit them, and based Henry wasn't having any of that bullshit
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>>16930906
>kikes hate workers and love to exploit them, and based Henry wasn't having any of that bullshit

Whites and Arabs do Construction Work in Israel Because Jews Refuse Manual Labor
>http://www.dailystormer.com/whites-and-arabs-do-construction-work-in-israel-because-jews-refuse-manual-labor/
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>>16930864
>Henry ford was a piece of shit and so is his company and products.
That's quite ironic coming from a GM fangirl
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>>16926866
You take that back!
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>>16927606
gm fangirls btfo yet again
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>>16929470
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>>16929106
The Crown Vic is literally the MOST COMFY car.
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>>16929470
Why do you think they had to morph marxism into cultural marxism? Capitalism proved to be better that communism for the workers. US workers had better work conditions and purchasing power that USSR ones and they kept improving and improving.
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Reminder that Henry Ford was literally a Nazi.
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>>16926856
Willys army jeep maybe? The combined efforts of ford, willys, and bantam, instrumental in the war efforts and basically what your land cruisers and land rovers were based off of, which later evolved to today's suvs.
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>>16934000
kike detected
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>>16926856
In a mass market sense yes
but its just a tractor and quickly became outmoded

>>16926942
haunted by the ghost of Harry Bennett
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>>16934395

idk armored cars are pretty rad
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>>16934000
>implying that's a bad thing
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>>16926866
Oy vey
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>>16936388
oy gevalt (V:
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>>16926866
oy vey!
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>>16934000
>implying that matters
Fail trips
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>>16926866
Oy vey, my grandparents were personally shoah'd by him!
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>>16926903
>>16926866
But how does this detract from historical importance? Hitler did some shit, but that doesn't make him any less historically important.
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>>16927606
HAHA FUCKING KEK THAT CAR CAUGHT ON FIRE THEY MUST ALL CATCH ON FIRE {INSERT CAR COMPANY HERE} BTFO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IT ONLY HAPPENS TO THEM TOO NOT EVERY CAR COMPANY EVER HAHAHA FUCKING FLAMING FAGGOTS HOT FIRE MIXTAPE BTFO SHIT TRASH HAHAHAHAHAHA KEK LOL BTFO B-BU-BUT ITS JUST THAT ONE HAHAHAHA KEK
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>>16934000
>trips

well shit
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>>16926903
Good read, thanks for the link
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>>16927969
Didn't give him an oscar? He must have really shmoozed up to some people to be able to continue making films. He comes off as such a likable guy that I would forgive him.
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>>16934000
good
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>>16938100
But anon, GM cars do catch fire all the time.
http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-gm-chevrolet-camaro-recall-20140613-story.html
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>>16938406
People love the man's movies, it's just a matter of finding someone willing to make money with his talent
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>>16929106
yes
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>>16939069
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>>16939239
kek, it's only missing the running dog
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>>16939069
>gmcucks will defend this
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>>16927606
>a good awesome man with a good awesome heart who traveled the world
Where have I heard this before?
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>>16939798
I got you anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn9Oc-AyFeQ
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>>16939069
HAHA FUCKING KEK THAT CAR EXPLODED THEY MUST ALL EXPLODE {INSERT CAR COMPANY HERE} BTFO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA IT ONLY HAPPENS TO THEM TOO NOT EVERY CAR COMPANY EVER HAHAHA FUCKING BOOMING FAGGOTS HOT BOX HIGHSPLOSION BTFO SHIT TRASH HAHAHAHAHAHA KEK LOL BTFO B-BU-BUT ITS JUST THAT ONE HAHAHAHA KEK
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>>16939972
H I G H T E S T
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>>16939975
>he didn't even read the link
GM had to recall cars because design defects made them catch fire
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>>16939988
So did BMW, Toyota, Ford, Mazda, and Ferrari. If you're going to shit on people for recalling cars for fire hazards, mention all of them.
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>>16940113
>o-others had the same issue so it's less bad
gm fangirls are literal children rotflmao
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>>16940163
>It's ok when this company does it and it doesn't mean anything
>but this company I don't like does the same thing so they're shit
the hypocrisy is strong here.
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>>16940205
>projecting
your """""argument""""" was literally
>mommy, they did it too
lmao can't make this shit up
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>>16940212
>implying
It's better than arguing like an elderly teacher defending the teacher's pet student who licks her ancient cunt.
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>>16940225
>ad hominem
stay btfo
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>>16940259
still not an argument.
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>>16940270
You were the one without an argument to begin with. When you said
>It's ok when this company does it and it doesn't mean anything
that was pure projection. When did I say anything like you implied I did?
As expected, gm fangirls argue like children.
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>>16940278
I never ignored that GM had fire issues. I hold the same opinion of those problems for every automaker. They recognized the problem and fixed it.

You're the one that singled out GM for it as a bad thing when everyone's had that problem. It happens from time to time when you power a vehicle with flammable fuel.
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>>16940287
For Ford, it's unusual. For GM it's tradition.
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>>16940294
>For GM it's tradition.
No it isn't. I can only think of 2 separate unrelated instances where GM cars were recalled for fire hazards.
The early build 1984 4 cylinder Fieros
and 1997-2005 W-body cars with the supercharged 3.8L 3800 V6 engine.

Hardly a tradition.
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>>16940308
>1997-2005
Sounds like a tradition to me, 8 continued years kek
There was also the SUV window switches that caused fires and the windshield squirters that caused engine fires too. I'm sure there's more but those are the ones I remember off the top of my head right now.
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>>16940330
>Sounds like a tradition to me, 8 continued years kek
they didn't find out about the problem until late 2007/early 2008. I remember getting the recall notice for my 98 GTP at the time.

Fire issues are something every automaker deals with at some point. Comes with the car business.
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>>16940345
>they didn't find out about the problem until late 2007/early 2008.
>took them 11 years to realize they were building timebombs
As usual, gm incompetence and corner cutting at display
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>>16940354
Actually it took that long because the problem doesn't happen under normal conditions. It only happened when the cars started to gain a cult-following and people started driving them harder. Brake dust and oil would get on the exhaust manifold and ignite. It normally wouldn't be a problem... unless the car was running hotter than normal due to the owner beating the snot out of it.
This was also the time when the community figured the 4T65eHD transaxles were almost guaranteed to shit themselves at anything above stock power levels.

If the car had never gotten a performance following, there would be no recall.
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>>16940365
>literally admitting that GM cars can't be driven hard
fucking vettes overheating before they can even complete a lap
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>>16940370
One car does not make all of GM. People still drive them hard. Workarounds have been found.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qcmFIOmiw8
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>>16940399
>n-not all GMs
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>>16941061
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>>16941065
>gm dolls
lmao
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>>16941071
actually, it was made by Ferrari.
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>>16941071
kek
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Ford model t was what really started the automobile industry for the everyday man. If it were not for the model t or a similar product we would most likely still only see the upper class driving.
I have answered the question here without taking my opinion on to the owner of the company, but evidently all the numales on this board, who weren't even alive at the time, have a bone to pick with Henry Ford.
When will you guys realise that all companies are trying to decieve the consumer... Don't tell me you wouldn't take more money from a bunch of numales
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>>16941071
Is this what Scotty looks like without glasses? Wew
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>>16926856
actually I think the 32 Ford had a bigger impact. it's probably the oldest platform car that you can build on
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>>16943993
>platform car
what did he mean by this?
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>>16944058
a car you can build on and modify. like an s13 or a fox body
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>>16926866
oy vey
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>>16944123
Can't you do that with literally any car?
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>>16944143
not if there's no aftermarket support
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>>16944151
Then the merits are of the aftermarket, not the car.
Also people who buy things are suckers, specially for cars as simple as that.
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>>16933897
>pic
The guy who tells you "the boss needs you, you don't need him" is usually just trying to encourage you to quit so he can move up. Just think, he convinces two or more guys to quit with his faux commie platitudes and he's looking like a more loyal and dedicated to the job. Boss man will want to give him a promotion.
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>>16944221
nah, he usually wants an union so he can be the crooked leader who gets bribed
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>>16944348
>I can tell from the communism and from seeing quite a few crooked union leaders in my time.
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>>16939972
BASED
wife material/10

>you will never marry candice the cuckslayer
why even live?
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>>16944202
>specially for cars as simple as that.
>Model T
>simple
fuck that you double nigger.
>it's old so it's simple!
It doesn't work that way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLMS_QtKamg

The control layout of modern cars didn't exist in the Model T's time. The first car to get the model control layout right was the 1915/1916 Cadillac Type 53
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>>16945388
I was talking about the mechanics, not about how it's driven. And I was talking about the 32 Ford, you should have followed the conversation.
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>>16945388
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTL5z32pqtU
WOAH, IT'S LIKE PILOTING A FUCKING ROCKET


calm down retard
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>>16946088
Kek. Hitler dubs
>>
No. It was important, but not that important. It was the first shitbox commuter car, and spelled a long and agonizing death for vehicle enthusiasts (100% previously) vs normies as drivers. And as far as shitbox commuters go, the Nash 600 is MORE historically important (and forgotten) as it set the precident for what an econobox is even today.

As far as Ford goes, its most historically important car(s) are probably the early Lincolns, right after acquisition. Most notably, the ones that became some of the first police interceptors.
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>>16934000
WTF? I love Ford now!
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Ive got a 1932 Ford AA and i feel like its a tough ass truck. had this for over 25 years now. the A's are definitely made better
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>>16946852
1931 i mean
>>
>>16946592
The Model T invented the econobox you dumbfuck, nobody even knows what a Nash 600 is anymore

>most important for is some random lincoln i don't know the name of
right
>>
>>16947377
this
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>>16946778
I've been reporting you for ban evasion.
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>>16949236
>implying that's actually Alphonse
kek
the thing with namefags is that they could literally be anyone
>>
>>16949236
Congrats dipshit, you also got my anonymous non-shitposts deleted. I'm not even Alphonse, I just have fun pretending to be him and triggering half of /o/ in the process.
>>
>>16943267
>Be sitting at home in living room
>Faintly hear "rev up your engines" from outside
>Don't think anything of it
>Probably just a guy playing with his kid or something
>Start hearing a rumble
>Gets louder
>Definitely a car engine, probably a v8
>keeps getting louder
>Loud as fuck now, literally sounds like he's going 100mph right outside my house
>Hear the loud, unmistakeable screams of the tires as the driver slams on the brakes in front of my house
>Lasts for a good 15 seconds, shatters all the windows on the front side of the house
>Go to see what the fuck it was
>Looking through the shattered window in my foyer
>Its Hillary Clinton driving a fucking big block v8 C3 Corvette with side piping
>Skid marks all the way around the curve on the road leading to my house
>I then hear her bellow "ITS TIME FOR THE SCOTTY KILMER CHANNEL!!!" At quadruple digit decibels
>Shatters the rest of the windows and mirrors in my house, also destroys my eardrums
>Rushed to hospital afterwards

Thank fuck she lost the election.
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>>16949327
>i swear i'm not alsphone: the post
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>>16949910
>implying you aren't alphonse trying to troll me into stopping to impersonate you
use your fursuit for something good and hang yourself furfag
>>
>>16950540
You seem upset
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>>16926903
>pay workers 25% less (generous estimate) but give them beer and a place where they can invent stuff for the company after hours
what great guys compared to Ford
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>>16951751
Lmao non ford cucks btfo
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>>16951777
trips confirm
>>16951751
I guess the point was getting them hooked on alcohol so that they don't quit in order to keep their daily fix. Disgusting. Then again this was their logo, really makes you think.
>>
>>16951874
>Dodge brothers literally kikes wanting to control the world
Makes sense, what other reason would the article try to so ruthlessly shame Our Lord the Ford and blindly praise loldodge... other than it being written by a fucking jew boy
>>
>>16951914
The writer is David Zatz, see
>>16927648
>>
>>16951874
Holy shit their monogram even looks hebrew
>>
>>16951914
I'm so glad they got owned by based Chrysler and then even more based Fiat. Not without being in Daimler-Benz's hands before. Both axis companies. Really makes you think.
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>this entire fucking thread
>>>/pol/ you cancerous fucks
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>>16951945
But ford and antisemitism is like the best combo ever, fagnigger

>"no u" spammer calling anyone else cancerous
Kekk
>>
>>16951968
>being this obsessed with me
>>
Alphonse you dumb nigger
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>>16951981
your insults only make me harder
>>
>>16951986
Nigger faggot kike lover
Nigger faggot kike lover
Fk u dog humper
>>
>>16951979
fuck off Prez/o/
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>>16952000
>>16952004
stay mad
>>
>>16952024
>s-stay mad
>implying mad
the only mad one here is you gm faggot
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>>16951981
>>
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>>16926942
It can be a real problem.
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>>16952043
>those headlights
>that grille
nice Bendi
>>
>>16952402
>Bendi
what did he mean by this?
>>
>>16954769
Bentley+Audi I guess
>>
>>16955376
yeah that's what I meant
>>
>>16926856

No. Ford had an idea that dozens of others had, he was just the first in the history books.
>>
>>16926871
The 1980's Ford Fairmont
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>>16956866
Yeah? Why do we still talk of Fordism?
>>
>>16927606
Fords are famous for burning their customers alive
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>>16926903
>They build low quality cars using low quality parts and sell at the highest cost to consumers, while undercutting prices.
>Then fuck the consumer in the ass if they complain. Then run insane sales and push money into their marketing

More GM than GM. Is that copypasta from a GM thread?
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>>16956883
>projecting
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>>16956866
>ford didn't revolutionize manufacturing methods well beyond cars with his ideas
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>>16952043
Henry Leland btfo
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>>16940330
>the windshield squirters that caused engine fires too
>not wanting dead bugs scorched off your windshield opposed to smeared
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>>16959488
you have a point anon
>>
>>16959488
you make it sound badass and all
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>>16959488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4nM-F1kxs8
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