Sleeper thread

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another one of my favorites, the galant vr4

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mercury marauder

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>>16896538
>unassuming
>Grand National
>blackout everything
>power six emblem everywhere
No. What you're looking for is a Turbo T-Type

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>>16896538

>>16896591
I know to anyone with a minimally trained eye the grand national is way too loud, but to a lot of other people it just looks like another old person's car, except maybe better styled like one that is modified. at least that's the impression i got of it when i first saw it.

>>16896615
Those tires and that intercooler look threatening. i'll bite, was this a thing or going to be a thing out the factory or something?

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>>16896538
Some car enthusiasts don't even know what it is.

>>16896671
It's a Holden Calais.

>>16896619
I thought it was a monte carlo at first, not extremely unassuming. Maybe jdmfags wouldn't know

>>16896671
It's a Chevrolet Omega.

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>>16896656
The Chevrolet Lacetti WTCC R+ was an extremely limited edition of the standard Korean built Lacetti (coughrebadgeddaewoocough). It was built to celebrate the success of the Chevrolet Lacetti WTCC racing program. Available as a 4 door sedan or wagon. The car came with a special body kit, 17" Team Dynamics wheels, a special Alcon big brake kit, and under the hood is a supercharged 1.8L Opel I4 making about 170 HP.

>>16896713
Sorry I meant in the USA. Fuggin Aussie.

>>16896728
I've just seen so many hoodrats customize cars with similar body styles that i didn't give it a second thought, except for maybe the lack of fuck huge rims.

>>16896671
How do you even buy one of these in the US?

>>16896859
ex police car.

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>4g63-t swap

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>>16896538
The Ford LTD in the Fox Body platform offered a "police package". This means you could drive this homely looking '85 Ford LTD and it's literally a Mustang with an extra two doors.

>>16896859
Chevy SS, very rare.

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GMC Syclone. Looks like a boxy 90's pickup. Has a turbo charged 4.3L V-6, with all wheel drive.

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1JZ-GTE bruh

wasn't there a turbo AWD Dodge Caravan? its engine served as a predecessor to the srt4's?

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>>16897300
turbo? yes.
AWD? no. FWD
predecessor to the SRT4 engine? depends on how you look at it.

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/threas

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>>16897307

I meant thread. I am piss

>>16897307
The regular 3.0L 6 is also pretty zippy

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>>16896538

>>16897300
>>16897306
FWD, rated at like 150 HP, and they weighed like 3500lbs

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Most sho's

>>16896671
sup Zeos

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>>16897059
it's a caprice dipshit

>>16896859
sometimes dealers have them in stock, due to the village not buying all of the cars they ordered. its a rare but it does happen.

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>nice family shuttle, faggot
>450 hp stock, can throw parts at it until 800 hp, AWD

>>16896538
That one Twingo that keeps wrecking shit on the ring.
Pretty sure it has racing livery, but if you painted it normally nobody would know.

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>>16896538
Volvo V40 T4 from 1999-2003. 200HP for no reason

>>16897888
Due to GM's wonderful marketing (read: none) I thought the SS and Caprice PPV were basically the same thing with the SS being slightly nicer inside.

Which itself is a hell of a thing since the name Caprice used to mean the top luxury trim of an Impala. Fucking GM.

>>16897948
what the actual, damn im gonna look out for one now.

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Turbod jdm h22a

>>16896609
underrated.

>that time Ford made a Lincoln branded Mustang

>>16897087
Yeah, except for the fact that their numbers are literally in the low four digits, even fewer nowadays. Its rarity alone gets rid of its sleeper status.

>>16897386
That 150 HP rating doesn't seem impressive these days but back then, that was goddamned impressive.The normal N/A 2.5L cars made 100 HP, and 150 HP from the turbo models wasn't far off the horsepower of the 305 V8 Chevy Camaro. Those fuckers were quick for the time.

Then the Taurus SHO came along and fucking wrecked everything.

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>>16899212
>Then the Taurus SHO came along and fucking wrecked everything.
So then, the ultimate sleeper would be the Taurus SHO, right? Classic '92 2nd generation shown here in Conan Racing Green...

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You dumb fags don't know what a sleeper is. OP is especially retarded if he thinks a blacked out GN isn't "unassuming".

Pic related, an actual sleeper.

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"Sleeper"

>>16899384
How? How is that a sleeper? Because it's a V6? I bet there are 10 mid-size sedans of that era with the same, if not more, performance than that car. A sleeper, by definition, is a car that looks plain/unassuming, yet performs like a sports car. A Camry V6 is just as fast as any other V6 sedan.

>>16899398
>German Luxury
>Unassuming

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>>16899375
Nice.

>>16899494
Ha. Right?

>>16899477
>A Camry V6 is just as fast as any other V6 sedan.
That's faster than your "sports cars" like the FR-S, Civic and GTI.

Also the Honda Accord V6 is faster than some pony car V6 models.

Please don't bother replying, you're a retarded faggot.

>>16897092
Huh?

I own one of these and I'd hardly call it a sleeper.

FFS, there are like 0 power mods for this car.

(ignoring the shit you can put on that would probably break stuff)

>>16899510
>like the FR-S, Civic and GTI.
If that's your definition of Sports Cars, there's your problem.

"Sleepers" are harder and harder to find because you don't see "police packages" or low profile/high performance cars offered as much any more, mainly because the market has changed. The majority of buyers would rather have a car that "looks fast" as opposed to actually being fast. Those people are called Fags. Enjoy the slide into Idiocracy.

>>16899510
Kek, the Honda Accord V6 used to outrun the Cayman.

>>16897893
Fuck, I seriously want one.
The SS looks like ricer shit compared to its cleaner lines.

>>16899602
Maybe in a straight line. Let's see who's faster around Nordschleife

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Bitches dunno bout my little secret

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>>16899678
:^)

>>16899577
you sound more like a faggot than anyone else

not everyone shares your bland taste

>>16899678
>>16899684
You talk as if it was a 6.9

>>16896713
Go fuck yourself ya fucking clueless seppo cunt. This board would be better off without having such a full-on manlet melbournian poofta cunt spewing dumb shit here, ya faggot cunt.

That's a holden statesman/caprice.

>>16899616
You you fucking /o/tists fuck off with this goddamned meme.

None of you fucks are going to run the ring, and even if you did you wouldnt have the skill to run a sub 9:00 time in Porsche 911 GT3 or GTR or whatever the fuck. You'd be lucky not to crash FFS.

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>>16896538

dunno if this counts, but i'm pretty sure most people don't know what it is or what it's packing under the hood

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For cars currently on the market, I think the Fusion Sport is assuming, because Fusion.

325 hp and 380 ft-lbs of torque.

1/4 mile in high 13s and 0-60 in low 5s.

If I never read the reviews, I would have just assumed the "sport" badge on the Fusion was a bullshit badge like they usually are.

Its a fucking Fusion

>>16900104
*unassuming

>>16900043
Bridge to gantry is a thing you know?

>>16900043
A Cayman driven by an amateur will still be faster than a Camry driven by the same amateur at Nordschleife

>>16900193
Yep doesnt mean you can turn a Ring lap within a minute of the manufacturer time though.

>>16900043
>None of you fucks are going to run the ring

This

Straight line speed is the only thing that matters because if anyone here is going to reference lap times, they might as well go play Forza and benchrace there. This is the real world. Your FR-S is supposed to handle so good and be quick on the track, but it's slower than a fucking 10 year old Hyundai Sonata off the light. Give me a fucking break.

>>16900220
What does that have to do with one car being faster than the other? If I put you in a Cayman at Nordschleife and then in a Camry you'll do a faster time in the Cayman unless you do your best to be slower in the Cayman.
To compare 2 cars you need the same driver and the same conditions.

>>16897948
also only 2,800 pounds. great car

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>what's a sleeper

>>16899710
>you sound more like a faggot than anyone else
That's funny you say that because it's a direct reference to "Idiocracy". As the World becomes more stupid with every generation, the sound of someone actually speaking with an average amount of intelligence always illicits the response, "Huh, U sound like a fag." Watch the movie, because it's where we're headed.
>not everyone shares your bland taste
It's not "my bland taste", it's the definition of the term. A sleeper should be a surprise. It should be an "oh shit, how is THAT car, THAT fast" moment.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeper_(car)

>>16900343
>oh shit, how is THAT car, THAT fast

Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiuLvLobAs4

>>16897948
Pretty much any turbo volvo

>>16899398
>german luxury
>V8 SUPERCHARGED on the side
>Hoosiers

I know your a tripfag, but are you really that desperate for attention?

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>SR20
>Limited slip diff
>~2500 Lbs

>>16900343
you havent said anything of intelligence just hipster whining

>>16900407
These are now fucking impossible to find. Probably due to SR20DE alone.

>>16900343
This, and it is exactly why I posted the Fusion Sport.

Had I not known better, I would have just dismissed the car as a midsize econobox commuter, not something that will put down 13s, and probably overboosted into the 12s, or close to it, with a tune.

>>16900427
I wrecked a completely stock one a few years ago, I was so pissed

>>16900407
I miss those little, angry econoboxes. What fun.

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>>16900442
Yeah, that's more on point with the idea of a sleeper. I think more sleepers these days have to happen post production, or owner modified. There's a guy on YouTube who is restoring a Ford Fairmount, but because it's an old Fox body, he's throwing every piece of Mustang he can under the hood. Imagine this whipping your ass at a stop light..

>>16896758
damn, id get the wagon version

>>16900523
see
>>16900286

>>16897864
i would daily a gen1/gen2 SHO fo sho

>>16896577
>Marauder
>unassuming sleeper
Yeah anyone with even minimal understanding of cars knows that isnt a standard marquis

>>16896671
an 1800kg turd that cant put any power down and is slower than a camry off the line?

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>>16896551
>Mein neger.

Actually thinking of buying one

>>16899384
>v6 camry/accord
>sleeper
You retarded or something? Maybe with full bolt ons

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>>16900592
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzWVhK_3D7Q
You can use the subtitle options for a rough translation

as to the car it's celebrating...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf2IRBcf-vU

The US market equivalent was the Suzuki Forenza which came with a 2.0L Opel engine (C20ZE based) making 127 HP. If you use the Opel engine aftermarket and whatever chassis aftermarket support you can find for the Forenza (using the other names it was sold as helps, like the Daewoo Lacetti, Chevrolet Optra, Buick Excelle and Chevrolet Lacetti), you can make a decent sleeper. The downside is you have to import all the aftermarket performance parts. The US market 2.0L is actually the one production engine closest to what that actual race car used since the race car used a C20XE

>>16901290
This isn't to say it's not fast but a stock v6 camry/honda is something every body knows about, and it would only be surprisingly fast running a fuck ton of boost with good tires.

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>>16899375
Ayyyy

>>16899375
Raced one in lemons before, It was great until the breaks caught fire.

>>16896577
>Sleeper
>Slower than a V6 camry

whoops

>>16899212
>305
>quick

>>16901776
for the time, it was considered quick. It isn't, but that's neither here nor there.

>>16901793
No it wasn't

most of these cars are sleepers in the way that they are so slow they will put you to sleep

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>Dat quad-4

>>16901801
Yes it was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haj4NtoDraQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV0g5AL0u-I

I think a LOT of the younger fags posting aren't looking at things in perspective; you can't compare an older car that was fast AT THE TIME, to newer ones in this "sleeper" category. A Dodge minivan with 150hp was a sleeper, because the current Mustang had the same horsepower...saying a V6 Camry (and yes, that fag is still posting) could beat it is redundant. To put it in modern terms, today's Mustang has 435hp; what minivan can compete with that? That's why a turbocharged Dodge minivan or Omni was a big deal at the time. To further drive home the point of "what was fast then vs what is fast now" I give you this....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9nAx2jtr3K8

>>16902405
The Testarossa still outdoes most cars in the elk test

>>16902405
On the other hand, the Ford Taurus SHO has ALWAYS been a good sleeper.
The recent ones can give a new Mustang a good fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKpBEVe7GDY

>>16902405
ok those Caravans wasnt sleepers even when new

they came out in 1989 and ran like 17 second 1/4 miles

thats low trim Honda Civic tier

the GLH was slower than a Maxima and yeah sure the GLHS was fast

>>16902715
>they came out in 1989 and ran like 17 second 1/4 miles
>thats low trim Honda Civic tier
You're looking at this wrong. You have to consider that, at the time, a 5.0L V8 Chevy Monte Carlo SS running a 16.5 second 1/4 mile was considered fast. The 1980's was all about a horsepower race where everyone was cucked by the rules.

>>16902770
no Im not looking at it wrong

its 1989 not 1983

by this time the Mustang was running low 14s the Camaro was a little bit behind

there is nothing sleeper about it

by this time 100hp Hondas were running 16s

and a fucking 1985 Maxima was running 16.5

>>16902637
LS is slow as shit

>>16902813
that one has had a swap and has over 300 bhp :^)

>>16902813
Not if it's a 2012+ rental fleet model. They came exclusively with a 300 HP 3.6L V6

>>16902998
The one in the pic was a 2006
>>16902913
Fair enough

What's the qualities of a sleeper? My work truck is stupid slow? 10 sec car? Mad drifts?

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>>16903030
A sleeper is a car with unassuming looks and surprising performance.
How do you not know what a sleeper is? We were pretty much all raised with them to some degree.

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>>16903030
a fast car that doesnt look fast

problem is today that most cars are fast as fuck compared to old ones so picking a point where things get sleepy is hard to determine imo

I mean damn plenty of trucks and SUVS now do 0-60 in the 5 second range

>>16898053
Caprice IS the top of the line Holden. The caprice and statesman are extended wheelbase versions of the commodore / chevy SS. They've sort of lost their "luxury" credibility since it's really only had legroom, wood inserts and heated leather seats as it's distinguishing features, features euro luxury vehicles developed past 20 years ago. However, the aus government still uses them for politicians and normalfags probably think its something special; people outside of limo companies and governments actually used to buy these as an alternative to a merc / bmw 15-20 years ago.

The reason the PPV isn't as luxurious is because it's used for perps; you'd want shitty seats that aren't going to cost much for a replacement.

>>16903059
fuck

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>>16897948
YEET

258hp in my T5 volvo, only at stage 1

310hp at stage 3

>>16896671
That looks awful.

>>16903609
nice mazda 3 hatch m8

>>16903631
u mean my ford focus?

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>>16903619
still fast. Change the wheels and it isn't so bad.

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>>16903646
holy shit that looks so bad

>>16903646
Maybe I'm so conditioned to the cop cars but I think I'd like it black n all the chrome bits removed.

>>16896538
So as someone that is driving a what I would call a "beat up" 2003 mustang gt through the east bay to oakland every day my car being a mustang makes it so people are less likely to cut me off. I drove a 2000ish accord for ~6 months and they would cut off all day.
I find that people are more predictable if they assume you have a "powerful car" which I don't when in my mustang or accord but their assumptions do play.
The idea of a "sleeper" has gone farther and farther away for me as I'm not trying to drag race anyone. I plan on buying a faster car as my next but I don't see doing highway drags in my future. I might also buy a zx14r

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only 1000hp

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>>16903652
>>16903653

>>16903671
MFW I can't find the actual picture this shirt is based on, you wanna race from a roll m8?
I can only win on holeshot :(

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>>16903683
MFW can't even bother to post the picture.
Race from a roll m8?

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>>16903646

>>16901159
>with even minimal understanding
Look around dude; the World is a minimal understanding kinda place right now. Most people couldn't pour piss out of boot with the directions on the heel.

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>>16901686
Nice. I would love that. Seems like fun people. Pic related.

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>>16903653
Yeah, "police pkg" is easier on the eyes

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Es my new sleeper :3

96 Roadmaster Estate with all options.

>>16896671
Is it the Caprice ? I know if you work for a police Dept or state you can get one

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This unassuming sedan was faster than the Golf GTI of it's time, and much faster than most of the cars back then.

>>16896538
Not a sleeper.

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>>16903540
This. The Lotus Carlton is the greatest sleeper of all time.
>177 mph

>>16903540
>>16904332
>the car that killed british police's reputation

>>16896577
>tfw i own one

its a barge but its MY barge ;_;

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ohh.. im just a old jag im not going to be that fast..

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Xantia V6 Activa
190 hp
Can reach 1g lateral acceleration and is still the fastest car ever tested in the elk test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09-C33SrJi8
http://teknikensvarld.se/algtest/

>>16905265
Isn't that a V6?

>>16905269
The elk test isn't a performance test but a safety test though. The speed it measures is the speed you enter the maneuver, not the exiting speed. For example the Tiguan does the moose test at 82 km/h but exits very slowly, because the stability control brakes it a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSRd2cP7Ck8

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>>16905265
>supercar
>sleeper
Even if the guy you want to race doesn't know shit about cars he's going to see it's fast and he's probably going to think it's newer than it is.
>>16905289
Yeah, V6 is what powers godmachines

>>16905522
How do you get 82, you can clearly see it clipping a cone at 82.
This has no stability control at all and did it at 85, 18 years ago (with the tires they had back then).

Still, dat lateral 1g acceleration
We're talking about a very comfy family saloon car here
https://youtu.be/T0_YMAL7aac?t=74

>>16905677
Hydropneumatic suspension is based as fuck, simple.

>>16905265
Kill yourself you colossal idiot

>>16905677
my dad had one of those, he owned many many cars, including very expensive ones but he had a v6 activia full optioned when it was brand new claims its the best car he ever had.

you forgot to mention the 4 wheel steering though

>>16905711
Too bad it'll be gone soon.
Everything cool or good that's a bit non-mainstream must die it seems.

>>16905743
>4 wheel steering
it didn't have that
>>16905677
That video isn't that impressive, should have posted the one where it outruns the 911 at the track.

>>16905752
The rear wheels did turn as well in sharp corners, you don't really notice it though and the turning circle isn't that good either, eh

>>16905765
Pretty sure it adjusted caster, not steered with them

>>16900427
I had one in high school and ended up selling it for $500.

>>16905777
My trips were nice but they conceal the harsh reality that I was wrong. The Xantia rear axle steers.