Mazda Speed 6

>>16872884
Just buy a brz

>>16872890
the 6 is cheaper

>>16872884
very solid, good looking car
can't really ask for much more

>>16872900
How reliable tho? Dont see or hear of many speed 6s

>>16872909
Very reliable.
Just readup on modding. Need a fuel pump before anything.

>>16872884
The one thing that actually went wrong with mine was a premature failure of a coil pack which spiralled into my engine being fucked and needing to be rebuilt because any mechanic I brought it to was somehow too incompetent to realize it. Otherwise it would've presumably kept going well past 200,000km. Anything else that goes wrong with it would be the result of the previous owners beating on it/not maintaining it. Save up and hunt for a clean example with low mileage and you'll be fine.

OEM replacement parts are stupidly expensive. Might want to consider aftermarket clone parts of you need to replace wear items. There's also not a hell of a lot of performance aftermarket support for them so they're more difficult to modify.

The interior is comfy as fuck though taller people may have trouble fitting in the passenger or back seats. The ride is kinda rough though.

Like I said find a good example and enjoy yourself anon. Fun cars

>>16872884
One my friends had one a few years ago I liked it drove it quite a bit. Compared to a ms3 its the better buy for a DD imo. Another friend just bought one last week in good condition, 120k miles for 5k

>>16872919
>very reliable

Yeah that explains why all 1st gen litter scrapyards across the world. The engine has several major flaws.

>>16873041
The only flaw is the owner.

>>16872884
The least meme'd AWD Turbo car. It's for a reason, but it's still a damn good alternative to the WRX if you can live without a hatch/wagon variant.

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About to hit 178k miles in mine and still going strong. I've replaced A LOT of parts though. If you plan to mod, do some reading on Mazdaspeed forums. These motors are temperamental and are prone to blowing up if you don't mod them properly. Never WOT under 3k.

>>16873046
This. There's no notorious flaws the engines have. Just have to maintain them and trust that they've been maintained by the previous owner. They're no Honda/Toyota. You need to check shit periodically especially if you're beating on it. Again, a lower mileage one is typically a better investment

>>16872884

i was a mechanic for years and worked on a few of them. fun cars but the clutch and rear shocks are a fucking cunt to do. anyone that has done either of them on a speed 6 knows what im talking about

rear shock bolts are one shot having to bend around and fuck with a swivel socket on rusty bolts that youre fucked if you strip, clutch have fun dealing with the cooler lines to the front diff. ive been told its easier to take the engine and trans as a whole for a clutch, i just dropped the trans on them

>>16873061
Anything to look for in the car besides mileage? Any notable problems that I should check for prior to purchase?

>>16873046
The timing chains prematurely go to shit, which can blow up the motor. Also, the blow-by is unreal, the tmic eats up coil packs, and the turbo seals like to leak. I've owned my ms6 for 6 years, and reliable is not the word for this engine. Maintenance is frequent and expensive.

>>16873099
Ive owned an ms6 for 3 years and never had these issues.
153k miles here

>>16873105
Between 150-170k I replaced the starter, tstat, water pump, a corroded ac line, both front upper arms, all rear diff mounts, and the AC compressor. Buckle up, buckaroo.

Just how expensive are these parts? Whats about an average annual $$?

>>16873086
First of all
>>16873084
Listen the this man and also add that the ball joints are one of those combination ball joint/control arm things meaning if one goes bad you have to replace both and the unit is expensive to buy from a dealership. At least a couple aftermarket companies make clones of them for a fraction of the price.

Otherwise quick rundown on the shit that went wrong in the short lived life of one my foolish teenage self bought at 187,000kms. Made it to 196 before the engine finally went cause of all the problems the faulty coil pack caused

>1st-2nd gear synchro was worn (owner abuse)
>clutch needed to be replaced around 194,000km (fucker lied to me and said he replaced it around 100,000km.)

Also don't be Jewish like me and not buy a new flywheel to go with it lest you get horrible clutch chatter if you aren't a Dagumi-tier shifter. However the easy comfy OEM dual mass flywheel is about twice as expensive as a lightweight aftermarket but that will make it harder to drive if you opt for it

>rear window motors were having trouble starting around the same time, still trying to wrap my head around it

That's about it honestly. Again, purely owner abuse and not maintaining it aside from the window thing which happens to cars all the time. Low mileage and mod free is your best friend but that doesn't guarantee you a problem free car. If this is really what you want don't make my mistake and save up and wait for a good specimen. One will show up.

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>>16873099
> inb4 I own one of these cars and it's done 700,000 miles and I haven't changed anything and nothing is broken and I stick my penis in the tailpipe cause it's so amazing of a car

>>16873159
Say about how many miles? Can only seem to find something like 80k as lowest

>>16873159
Me again

Honestly OP if this is your first manual car/proper car/etc please do yourself a favour and buy a Civic Si or something

>inb4 FWD

The headaches you'll save yourself will make you forget. They're way easier to learn everything on

>>16873194
That's the problem with them. Everyone who bought them drove the shit out of them. Finding one lower than that is gonna take time and as I said before it won't mean it's problem free

Bump for interest

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>>16873047
>if you can live without a hatch/wagon variant.
>he doesn't know about the mighty sport wagon

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>>16875595
oh fuck

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>>16875606
you didn't know?

My girlfriend has one and it needs an engine because there are chunks of metal in the oil pan.

>>16873059
>Never WOT under 3k.
why? asking for a friend

How the MS3 compare.

>>16875627
I actually didn't. I'd always though the speed6 was cool but never looked in to them a whole lot.

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What do you guys think about the Mazda3 GT? Considering getting one, but the 186 HP seems a bit on the weak side.

>>16875872
Don't feel bad. There's no Speed6 wagon. The SportWagon was a V6 FWD unit.

>>16872884
80k for this
holy shit, there is loads of way more interesting cars for that much and less

>>16876241
disregard that, i suck cocks

i still wouldn't buy a mazda

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>>16876245
Mazda makes excellent vehicles though

>>16876255
Just ignore him, his parents obviously wouldn't buy him a Miata.

It's a great car with a cool period Mazda interior that is quick, gets reasonable gas mileage, is great in inclement weather, looks very low-key, and will get you 200k miles with routine maintenance and a mature driving style.

The keys are stupid expensive, the exterior trim bits are garbage (door handles, trunk handle bezel, appliques etc.) and they have notoriously bad rear differential mounts. The engine is a direct injection unit which means that it will suffer from coking on the backs of the valves if you do not run some seafoam through the intake every other oil change or so.

I'd say get one. It's a car that's super fun and doesn't attract attention from anyone who isn't a diehard.